What do you think of the BCS?

[Keino]

Please Vote in this Public Poll. We are trying to determine the pulse of the HR Community as it relates to the BCS and the determination of the College Football National Champion.

For that reason, we have posted this in the most heavily trafficked forum, so as to garner the most participation.

After voting, please post why you voted the way you did, what College football program (if any) you support and what area of the Country you live in.

Thanks in advance for your participation.

Also, please note, we have a thread in both the College Sports forum and Poltics forum if you want to actually debate the topic. For that reason, I'd like to ask that we limit our responses to the information I asked for above.

[Keino]

I voted that a 16 team playoff is the way to go, because I find the polls appointing the Championship game participants to be arbitrary.

I support University of Maryland (Alma Mater) and Penn State (Childhood favorite team).

Born and raised in the DC area, lived in Tampa for the last 3 years.

[IndianBaller27]

I voted that a 16 team playoff is the way to go, because I find the polls appointing the Championship game participants to be arbitrary.

I support University of Maryland (Alma Mater) and Penn State (Childhood favorite team).

Born and raised in the DC area, lived in Tampa for the last 3 years.

same choice, same reason.

I support UMD as well because my school doesn't have a football team =/

[Biggie]

I voted for at least an eight-team playoff.

I support the University of Maryland and live in Maryland.

[akhhorus]

The BCS is fine.

South Carolina Gamecocks: support and alum. Live in DC.

[Death_Venom]

I would prefer an 8 Team Play-Off system.

I support USC in Southern California.

[give_portis_the_rock]

No, I hate the BCS system. I call it the BS system (dumb joke). A playoff system not only makes more rational sense but it makes the games more interesting for the fans (knowing that any of those 16 teams could be national champions).

And I'm a Hokies fan

[LATrueRedskin]

I'd like to see a 16-team playoff system. I think the playoffs make it more interesting for fans, it gives solid "underlying" teams a chance at the title, and it gives the major teams complete justification if they do in fact win it all. And I chose 16 games because it's more football than 8. :)

I support the University of Maryland (Alma Mater), and I live in Maryland.

[Patrick]

DII and DIII can support a playoff system - why can't DI? Lot of ways to answer this but bottomline....... DI could.
Montgomery College - Support, Alum
UMD - Support
Limestone College - Support (well I had to plug my daughter's college :) )

[MONK_in_HOF]

I still normally watch, but think an 8 team playoff would be the optimal setup. Even a 4 team playoff would be better than the current system. Much easier to leave out the 5th or 9th ranked team as opposed to 3rd ranked BCS team.

I pull for the Terps and Navy.

[lakeskin]

I would like to see an 8 team playoff system. A playoff system that doesn't diminish the regular season like a 16 team playoff would.

I dont support a college team, though I maintain a west coast bias. I just like to watch good --preferably high scoring-- college football games. I live in the OC, CA.

[Fathead]

I voted 8 team system, I live in Pocatello, ID, and cheer for Idaho State University (who suck).

[BurgundyNGold]

While I think that an 8 team playoff would be more feasible given the current number of games that teams play, I think a 16 team, 4 week single elimination playoff would be the best. You could include the champions of each major D-1A conference (11), plus 5 at-large spots based on BCS rankings.

EDIT:

I don't really have any NCAAF allegiances. The closest thing would be Maryland because this is my home state and I went to school there. Generally, I prefer to watch SEC games because they have the best football in the college ranks.

[Ibleedburgundy]

8 team playoff. 3 weeks, one clear cut champion. ratings would be second only to the superbowl. No automatic berths from conferences.

East Carolina and Florida State. I live in Arlington

[cal_junior]

I'd like to try some of whatever the 16-team folks are smoking. It must some strong stuff.

8 teams is never going to happen either, but it would be the most effective and realistic way to get a true champion every season -- EDIT: and therefore what I want to happen. (If you can't be in the top-8 you can't complain, IMO)

I live in (the) Ohio State University country but do not have a favorite team, though I'm a big Ralph Friedgen fan so I sort of pull for Maryland.

[Keino]

I'd like to try some of whatever the 16-team folks are smoking. It must some strong stuff.

8 teams is never going to happen either, but it would be the most effective and realistic way to get a true champion every season. (If you can't be in the top-8 you can't complain, IMO)

I live in (the) Ohio State University country but do not have a favorite team, though I'm a big Ralph Friedgen fan so I sort of pull for Maryland.

I just want to interject here, the poll is asking you what you want, not what you think will happen.

Question to throw out for discussion (Maybe I will do a follow-up poll or just ask via PM):

Those of you who favor a playoff, does the absence of a playoff now affect your decision to tune into the National Title Game?

[jaggedice]

I voted 8 team playoff...

Even though it will never happen, i feel it is the best solution. Use the cotton Bowl (In the new Dallas Stadium), The Orange Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, and another bowl (maybe Gator Bowl?) for the first 4 games. Then the Rose and Sugar for the semi-finals. And the championship game will be played every 4 years for one of the 4 big bowls as they do now.

I live in Orlando, FL and am Alum and support THE University of Florida Gators. I think i speak for EVERYBODY when I say, Ohio state..... you can't put THE in front of your name anymore...

[cal_junior]

you can't put THE in front of your name anymore...

Lol, settle down. It's just the official school name, I'm not making any kind of major statement or anything.

[csquared]

8 team playoff..... And i dont watch enough CFB to pick a team. I live in Annapolis so i guess Navy or UMD.

[Ibleedburgundy]

I just want to interject here, the poll is asking you what you want, not what you think will happen.

Question to throw out for discussion (Maybe I will do a follow-up poll or just ask via PM):

Those of you who favor a playoff, does the absence of a playoff now affect your decision to tune into the National Title Game?

I think it would make me more likely to watch. Surprisingly enough, I don't even tune in every year.

[Meatsnack]

I voted 8 team playoff because I think that is the most likely scenario in the unlikely event a playoff ever happens.

I would like a 16 team elimination tournament based on rankings - no automatic bids. I don't think that is realistic unless we limit the college season to 9 games plus conference championships where applicable. The seasons would be too long.

I went to W&M and support Alabama football in Div1, and the SEC in general after that. I am also a W&M fan and catch the games on Comcast Sports net whenever I can find them on DirecTV. Go Tribe!

http://www.tribeathletics.com/uploaded/images/storyimg7922.gif

[sinskin]

I voted 8 team playoff...

Even though it will never happen, i feel it is the best solution. Use the cotton Bowl (In the new Dallas Stadium), The Orange Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, and another bowl (maybe Gator Bowl?) for the first 4 games. Then the Rose and Sugar for the semi-finals. And the championship game will be played every 4 years for one of the 4 big bowls as they do now.

I live in Orlando, FL and am Alum and support THE University of Florida Gators. I think i speak for EVERYBODY when I say, Ohio state..... you can't put THE in front of your name anymore...


This is exactly what I have been pulling for for 3 years now. The arguement is the big money grips of the top conferences make to much money as well as all involved with big name bowls. Leave them in place and make them the stage for Big Time College Playoffs. The rating imo would be better as well the money as good or better. Noone goes home crying.
All pro sports have them. College Basketball has them. College Baseball has them. Just why the hell not College Football?

8 game playoff and no I do not watch the championship game as diligently as I would a Playoff system.

[give_portis_the_rock]

I just want to interject here, the poll is asking you what you want, not what you think will happen.

Question to throw out for discussion (Maybe I will do a follow-up poll or just ask via PM):

Those of you who favor a playoff, does the absence of a playoff now affect your decision to tune into the National Title Game?

Yes, it's not as compelling or as interesting without a playoff system
Playoffs gives teams a chance to peak at the right time (if there was a 16 team playoff system and the #16 ranked team won the national title, NO ONE would call it illegitimate)

[redskin_rich]

8 game playoff system because if you want to be the man, you gotta beat the man.

DC/NoVA area native for all but one year of my life.

Fan of all ACC sports and most local teams in every sport (Georgetown, Navy, GMU).

[SkinsKY]

I voted an 8 team playoff. After that, I think there's just too much parity. Although I could live with a +1 format. It's still an improvement.

UK football fan (so I doubt It will ever affect me much), but I generally like to see VA teams do well since I grew up in NoVa.

[SkinsASchamps]

I like it the way it is. Tons of discussion and every game matters. Playoffs would be ok but I love having tons of bowl games and discussing all the matchups. I do not think it will change anytime soon...

[Farmer Ted]

I'm pretty happy with the BCS. The regular season is excellent, and I buy the argument that the season is the playoff. I wouldn't mind a +1, but would hate an 8 or 16-team tournament. Sorry, but the #8 (or #16) team doesn't deserve a whiff of the national title.

I live in Colorado, but grew up in Virginia. I don't have any strong allegiances to division I teams, but I mostly follow the Big-12. I'm definitely pulling for Texas Tech this year because they're fun to watch.

[give_portis_the_rock]

Sorry, but the #8 (or #16) team doesn't deserve a whiff of the national title..

Maybe not in the current system
But in a playoff system? If a #16 ranked team beat out all their opponents and won the national title game you would not consider it legitimate? That's like saying if a #8 seed in either NBA conference wins a title they don't deserve it. How is that fair? Or if a #2 seed in the NCAA basketball tournament (like Georgetown last year) loses in the second round.

If they had a playoff system, we wouldnt have to worry about which team deserves what, because teams would have to earn their title in the playoffs. And I wouldnt mind the "season being its own playoffs" if it had some kind of uniform system to rank the teams (like in soccer with the points system). But it doesnt.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

The "add 1" format would work if there were 4 undefeated teams, but if more it would be a problem, or if 3, how do you decide who gets to play whom.

[sinskin]

I'm pretty happy with the BCS. The regular season is excellent, and I buy the argument that the season is the playoff. I wouldn't mind a +1, but would hate an 8 or 16-team tournament. Sorry, but the #8 (or #16) team doesn't deserve a whiff of the national title.

I live in Colorado, but grew up in Virginia. I don't have any strong allegiances to division I teams, but I mostly follow the Big-12. I'm definitely pulling for Texas Tech this year because they're fun to watch.

The Giants didn't deserve the Superbowl win? The Redskins didn't deserve their Superbowl as a wildcard? When NC State won their National Title in basketball, they didn't deserve it as a sixth seed in their region?

Thats absurd.


I root for VT and grew up in Manassas. Been in lynchburg half my life.

[Farmer Ted]

The Giants didn't deserve the Superbowl win? The Redskins didn't deserve their Superbowl as a wildcard? When NC State won their National Title in basketball, they didn't deserve it as a sixth seed in their region?

Thats absurd.


When did I say the Giants didn't deserve to win the Super Bowl? Drawing that conclusion is absurd. College football isn't at all like the NFL.

[RoanokeSkin]

The BCS in its current format is a joke. I voted that an 8 team playoff is needed. It would be far better to have a dispute between who is 8 and 9, versus who is 2 and 3.

I support the University of Virginia and I live in Roanoke, VA.

[RedskinsDave]

The BCS in its current format is a joke. I voted that an 8 team playoff is needed. It would be far better to have a dispute between who is 8 and 9, versus who is 2 and 3.

I support the University of Virginia and I live in Roanoke, VA.

So you'll only start to worry when they install an 89 team playoff. :D

[CNYSkinFan]

http://gapyx.com/cmt/2006/11/jay_sherman_critic_1994.jpg

[Keino]

Sorry, but the #8 (or #16) team doesn't deserve a whiff of the national title.


I didn't want the thread to turn into a debate, because we have 3 threads already discussing it.

However, I would point out that Under an 8 Team playoff scenario, the #8 (Currently Penn State) would have to play #1, then the winner of #4 vs #5 and then very likely #2 or #3 (but possibly # 6 or 7). Winning those 3 games in successive weeks seems pretty Championship worthy.

Under a 16 team scenario, the #16 team would have to beat #1, then the winner of #8 vs #9, then very likely #4 or #5 (or 12 or 13) then likely #2 or #3 (or 6, 7, 11 or 10), again, seems like a 4 game title run to me.

The current top 16 is:

1. Alabama 11-0
2. Texas Tech 10-0
3. Texas 10-1
4. Florida 9-1
5. Oklahoma 9-1
6. USC 9-1
7. Utah 11-0
8. Penn State 10-1
9. Boise State 10-0
10. Ohio State 9-2
11. Georgia 9-2
12. Oklahoma State 9-2
13. Missouri 9-2
14. BYU 10-1
15. Michigan State 9-2
16. TCU 9-2

I'd love to see a tournament involving these squads......(And yes an undefeated Ball State who is ranked 17 would whine about being excluded, not perfect but I can live with it.)

[bfauble83]

I voted hastily for 16 team playoff, but after reading some of the reasons here and in the other thread I would change my vote to 8 team playoff. I think either is better than the current system...just imagine if the nfl a computer pick who plays in the super bowl

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

An 8-game playoff would be best IMO. I support the UMD Terps, born and raised in MD.

[AliBabba]

An 8-game playoff would be best IMO. I support the UMD Terps, born and raised in MD.
Second everything above ... Thanks Lady!

[WarEagle]

-Should remain as it is. Don't want a 7 month college football season.

-Lifelong Auburn fan. Over the years I've come to see the SEC Championship Game as my main focus, with the Nat'l Championship a nice to have thing but an unreasonable expectation.

-Homeland in Boston but I live in Alabama.

[dj_stouty]

Voted for 8-team tourney...but the schedule would have to be overhauled to fit in these tourney games.

They would have to kill the conference tournament Championship games...to make room for the tourney. Take away the conf. tourney...and then you only have the top2 teams in the finals playing 2 extra games. The two losers of the semis only had to play one extra game. The 4 losers of the first round basically substituted their conf. championship game for the playoffs. Assuming my math is right; that isn't too bad in my book. The universities will probably argue that their "student atheletes" *snicker* shouldn't have to play a lot more games than they do now, which is why a 16-team tourney is out of the question.

If they did do an 8-team tourney, the top 7 bowls would basically be part of the tournament. (Rose, Orange, Fiesta, Sugar with Cotton, Gator, Outback, Chick..etc) I'd still like to see other bowl games on the schedule. There are over 30 bowl games now, and that is too many. I think having an extra 17 bowl games over the tourney's 7 to showcase the rest of the top 50 would be nice.

I support UVA in DI...as well as Richmond & UD in DIAA. I lived in NOVA for 9 years and Richmond for the past 2.

[Fathead]

-Should remain as it is. Don't want a 7 month college football season.

-Lifelong Auburn fan. Over the years I've come to see the SEC Championship Game as my main focus, with the Nat'l Championship a nice to have thing but an unreasonable expectation.

-Homeland in Boston but I live in Alabama.



What are you talking about 7 months? Right now its late august through the first week of January with a whole flipping month off. Its barely 4 months.

[redskin_rich]

What are you talking about 7 months? Right now its late august through the first week of January with a whole flipping month off. Its barely 4 months.
Some people aren't considering the changes that would be implemented as part of the playoff scenario.

That month off is another thing that really takes the air out of the big bowl games, IMO.

[Fathead]

An 8 team playoff is 3 weeks! 3 weeks added to a season that is barely 4 months of actual football is not 7 months.

[redskin_rich]

An 8 team playoff is 3 weeks! 3 weeks added to a season that is barely 4 months of actual football is not 7 months.

Are you addressing that to me? I was agreeing with you.

But there wouldn't be anything added to the season, some things would be replaced and the empty spaces would be filled.

[Fathead]

Are you addressing that to me? I was agreeing with you.

But there wouldn't be anything added to the season, some things would be replaced and the empty spaces would be filled.

No, I was just posting faux outrage in no general direction other than the absurdity of a playoff causing a 7 month football season.

[WarEagle]

What are you talking about 7 months? Right now its late august through the first week of January with a whole flipping month off. Its barely 4 months.

Aug-Feb. I was thinking about the 16 team playoff, not your 8 team scenario. Watch the road rage.

[Fathead]

A 16 team playoff is 4 weeks! And even then you barely get 5 months of football! A week or two of August, September, October, November, Playoff.

[skinsfan36]

voted for 8 team playoff.
acc,sec,big 10,big 12,pac 10,big east winners. then 2 at large bids

[Farmer Ted]

I didn't want the thread to turn into a debate, because we have 3 threads already discussing it.

However, I would point out that Under an 8 Team playoff scenario, the #8 (Currently Penn State) would have to play #1, then the winner of #4 vs #5 and then very likely #2 or #3 (but possibly # 6 or 7). Winning those 3 games in successive weeks seems pretty Championship worthy.


I don't like the idea of a tournament because it will de-value so many otherwise great regular season games. If you have a big tournament, then Pete Carroll doesn't get punished for falling asleep once a year and losing to a Stanford or Oregon State. He can go ahead and blow one of those games, and it doesn't matter at all. It's so much more fun watching those games, and knowing that his season just went straight down the tubes. Also, if you put in a tournament, then you take away some of the incentives for big-time teams to play solid out-of-conference schedules. Now, a top team like a USC or a Texas or Ohio State knows that they've probably got to put one or two decent teams on their schedule if they want to make a run at a title. They don't want to be left out because they played a soft schedule. But if being #7 is every bit as being good as #2, then why would they bother? Seriously, I think that a tournament will only make the regular season boring in the long run. Does anyone actually watch the regular season of college basketball? It's completely irrelevant, because all anyone cares about is March Madness.

[shally]

need at least 4 team playoff-- but realistically 8 would be best.
16 would take too many weeks and the schools would never go for it..

[give_portis_the_rock]

need at least 4 team playoff-- but realistically 8 would be best.
16 would take too many weeks and the schools would never go for it..

Make the regular season shorter

[Farmer Ted]

Make the regular season shorter

You think the NCAA would just give away all of that money (having a shorter season) so 8 or 16 teams could go to the playoffs? Dream on.

[Keino]

Actually I think there are tons of people who watch the regular season of College Basketball, because it still matters. It affects whether you qualify for the post-season and that is also affected by your Strength of schedule (RPI), so I don't buy the argument that the regular season becomes devalued. I also don't think that the NCAA has to make the season shorter to accommodate an 8 team playoff. 2 teams might play 15 games under that scenario.

[HAWGZHEAD]

Need at least an 8 team playoff IMO. College football seasons to me seem pre-determined somewhat based on popularity the way that these things workout sometimes. A lesser known team that goes undefeated that would hardly ever be considered for the National Championship would at least have a chance in a playoff system.

UNC fan from NC

[WarEagle]

The President-Elect has an opinion about all of this. Thought you'd get a kick out of it. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WDuQe89kJM

[Patrick]

DII - 10 game regular season - 24 team playoff
DIII - 10 game regular season - 32 team playoff.

AMAZING !

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

we have to have at least an 8 team playoff.the season is over in november.it would be great toadd a few more games to the season and crown a legitimate champion in my view.everybody would make money off of it,the colleges and tv stations.what's not to like about that?

[ryflan47]

I guess I'm biased towards bigger schools, but I love the can't-lose atmosphere that the BCS system creates. It makes every game suspenseful, and every game could be the end of your season, or your key into the National Championship.

[NamVet4]

I have never liked the BCS rating system! Voted for an 8 team playoff schedule. there a lot of great ideas being put forward here in this thread. Hopefully some will get attention in the college world!
Being an old fart I have enjoyed rooting for Syracuse, Notre Dame, Army and Michigan throughout my life time. I like all college football!

[skinsfan36]

texas tech really muddied this thing up,oklahoma is usally bad in 75% of big games so we will see what happens this week when they play a very good ok st team

[SweetBubbaT]

Almost any playoff system would be better than what we have now. There would still be PLENTY of pressure to make it into the playoffs. Which would still make every regular season game matter.

I grew up in NC, and have always been a fan of the NC State Wolfpack. I now live in NW Indiana.

[Battle Cat]

Chose and 1 format because I am a realist and recognize there will never be a playoff system. The conferences and school presidents would never allow that to happen. For every Auburn, LSU, USC, Florida there are 4-5 schools whose team will never have a chance to play for a national championship that will never agree with a tournament that would basicly kill every bowl except 4-5 that the same top teams always go to.

Huntsville, AL Auburn Fan and Alum

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

i think it's foolish for all the schools and its presidents balk at more money which they would easily get in an expanded season.if this economy does'nt start getting better,these schools are'nt gonna get the money they are used to getting from all the networks off tv revenue.they may eventually be forced into it!

[InsomniaKiller]

First and foremost, I am not a hardcore NCAA football fan by any means. But I love football and I lived in Blacksburg, VA for a short time a few years back, and for that reason I cheer for the Hokies. I watch their games whenever possible, and usually catch one or two college games a week, but that's about it.

That having been said, I hate the BCS. It's absolutely stupid. There's no other way to put it. An 8-team playoff format is probably best. I think 16 would be too many, because unlike the NFL, there *is* a pretty big discrepancy from the top handful of teams and everyone else. If you're not at least in the top 10, forget about it. Let the truly elite teams play each other.

I currently live in Fredericksburg, VA.

[Carmelo]

Please Vote in this Public Poll. We are trying to determine the pulse of the HR Community as it relates to the BCS and the determination of the College Football National Champion.

For that reason, we have posted this in the most heavily trafficked forum, so as to garner the most participation.

After voting, please post why you voted the way you did, what College football program (if any) you support and what area of the Country you live in.

Thanks in advance for your participation.

Also, please note, we have a thread in both the College Sports forum and Poltics forum if you want to actually debate the topic. For that reason, I'd like to ask that we limit our responses to the information I asked for above.

Okay. I voted for the 8 team playoff. The reason I did is because the current bcs system does nothing to excite me and because of this I never watch bowl games. Having the top 8 teams (at least... I know it probably wouldn't be probably but I'd love 16) would ensure that I would at the very least watch what would be the much hyped championship.

I live in Germany now (from DC) and I support no college team. Because I support no college team specifically, I find it really hard to get into the current BCS system.

I am in no way knowledgeable on the subject though so my thoughts don't mean anything at all.