Jason Taylor interview on wjfk this am

[Moe]

For those who want to hear, here's a link to the podcast-
http://www.wjfk.com/pages/736388.php

For those who don't/can't some highlights:

First off, he was unusually candid and honest which was a refreshing break from the usual cliche's or random babbling that a lot of guys throw out.

-On the D line and their lack of pressure: made no excuses and said it was their lack of execution. He mentioned his injuries and that he probably played while not healthy enough to do so, but didn't claim it as an excuse. Was effussive in his praise for the play of the secondary considering their lack of pressure.

-On the scheme: said that given his druthers it wouldn't be what he'd prefer to play in, but said it can work and they all needed to step up.

-One of the guys asked him why the D wouldn't make use of some things that a D like the Ravens do: said that they (the Ravens) played more freely and with more fire, whereas the Skins are asked to get upfield but keep assignments (the way he sounded made me think he wished there was more freedom).

-On Zorn and whether he lost the team: said it has been tough the way that they have struggled late but didn't think that was the case. He bounced that off his time in Miami under Cameron and said that there was a lot more behind the scenes problems down there and that this team was talented but just got stuck and couldn't get out of the rut.

-On his future: he said if he is cut/waived then he will take time to determine if he wants to go somewhere else or hang 'em up. He said flat out that he's "not worth" the $8mill he's due but that "this dog can still hunt," in fact he said that twice. He said he wouldn't be surprised if he is cut but he didn't know what would happen and it seemed like the door is at least open for wiggle room on a renegotiation.

Those were some highlights. My gut is that he's going to be approached about dropping that salary and he might do it if he sees enough to think this team has a shot. I'd like to see him at a reduced rate because I think he can still play, but I suspect this team and staff will look a bit different next year so who knows.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

For those who want to hear, here's a link to the podcast-
http://www.wjfk.com/pages/736388.php
My gut is that he's going to be approached about dropping that salary and he might do it if he sees enough to think this team has a shot. I'd like to see him at a reduced rate because I think he can still play, but I suspect this team and staff will look a bit different next year so who knows.

-I'm with you there. Based on his play this year, hes not worth bring back at 8M next year. On the other hand, if we can adjust our scheme (ie fire Blache and bring in a more aggressive DC), id see if he would sign a 2/3 year extension for 10M/15M total (5M/year average garaunteed). I'd also include incentives to allow him to acheive his previous salary based on performance. I have no problem paying him an average of 8M/year if he plays like he did in Miami.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

think zorn may go after ted cottrell?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Anyone wonder if this is just Taylor’s way of getting released from another team he thinks isn't going anywhere anytime soon? perhaps he hopes to be released so he can join a real "contender" next year? Maybe we can stick it to him and trade him to Oakland for a 4th rounder.

[skin4ever]

Anyone wonder if this is just Taylor’s way of getting released from another team he thinks isn't going anywhere anytime soon? perhaps he hopes to be released so he can join a real "contender" next year? Maybe we can stick it to him and trade him to Oakland for a 4th rounder.

That was my thought. I read about this on Profootballtalk.com. and their spin read as something similar to that. Plus why would a football player ever say hes not worth the money. If he wanted to be here, he wouldsay something like i am going to work my butt off and earn it next season. I can play at a probowl level.

[wide_awake]

Plus why would a football player ever say hes not worth the money.

Because he's being honest?

He knows his level of play is not worthy of 8 million, and we know that. I wouldn't look too deep into this, I could be wrong but Jason Taylor appears to be a genuine person.

[BurgundyNGold]

Taylor pisses me off. What a waste. And it's even more sad to think that the pinnacle of his pissing me off won't come until draft day.

[skin4ever]

Because he's being honest?

He knows his level of play is not worthy of 8 million, and we know that. I wouldn't look too deep into this, I could be wrong but Jason Taylor appears to be a genuine person.

I did not hear the interview, and only read what PFT.com was sayin. On that note. He seems to be a genuine person to me as well. But he did not couple his statement with something like, i am going to work hard in the offseason and make it a point to earn it or something like that. It reads like he has an agenda in making these comments, like considering retiring or hoping to get cut and move to greener pastures.

[oldskinfan]

It would be nice to bring him back at $5m, or $10m over 2 years.

I am betting he would like to be released so he can go to a contender. I think he would even accept less - like $10m over 2 years guaranteed.

I think he is better suited to a 3/4 and at I am also guessing he is partial to warm weather, so he could look at San Diego. For 4/3 defenses, he could check out Tampa, Jacksonville, Carolina or Atlanta.

[Epochalypse]

Taylor pisses me off. What a waste. And it's even more sad to think that the pinnacle of his pissing me off won't come until draft day.

Have to admit I don't get this thinking. What is it that Taylor has done wrong? He didn't force the Redskins to trade two picks for him. He didn't ask to get a career threatening injury this season. He didn't ask to come to Blache's defensive scheme. He didn't ask to switch to the other side of the line to accomodate our "talented" DE Carter. And he didn't ask to grow old. He did ask for a lot of money when he was a Pro Bowl DE and looking beyond his playing career. Yep, no one should ever think to do something like that. Just think there are more constructive avenues to vent hatred.

[Moe]

I did not hear the interview, and only read what PFT.com was sayin. On that note. He seems to be a genuine person to me as well. But he did not couple his statement with something like, i am going to work hard in the offseason and make it a point to earn it or something like that. It reads like he has an agenda in making these comments, like considering retiring or hoping to get cut and move to greener pastures.

In the interview, he prefaced the 'I'm not worth it' statement by talking about being honest and not dodging the issue. In effect he said that he can handle reality but doesn't like surprises and as a result he assessed himself as being 'not worth' next year's $8mill. I don't think there was anything more to read into it nor do I think it was him calculating his way out. There's not much to hide from when you talk about his cost>production ratio. Any team that might want him knows his age, the injuries he just had and what he did this year, so either he's actually being honest or looking for an out, but even if it's the latter it won't be for monetary gain.

[BurgundyNGold]

Have to admit I don't get this thinking. What is it that Taylor has done wrong? He didn't force the Redskins to trade two picks for him. He didn't ask to get a career threatening injury this season. He didn't ask to come to Blache's defensive scheme. He didn't ask to switch to the other side of the line to accomodate our "talented" DE Carter. And he didn't ask to grow old. He did ask for a lot of money when he was a Pro Bowl DE and looking beyond his playing career. Yep, no one should ever think to do something like that. Just think there are more constructive avenues to vent hatred.
It's not what he did so much as what he didn't do. He has 1.5 sacks in 11 games. From a "premiere" pass rusher, injured or not, that is a gaunt total. Add in that Taylor has been a complete disaster in the run game and my blood starts to boil. Do I blame him personally for getting injured, getting old, how we used him or what we gave up for him? No, but just like Adam Archuleta, I am ready for the Jason Taylor mistake to be over already.

[skin4ever]

In the interview, he prefaced the 'I'm not worth it' statement by talking about being honest and not dodging the issue. In effect he said that he can handle reality but doesn't like surprises and as a result he assessed himself as being 'not worth' next year's $8mill. I don't think there was anything more to read into it nor do I think it was him calculating his way out. There's not much to hide from when you talk about his cost>production ratio. Any team that might want him knows his age, the injuries he just had and what he did this year, so either he's actually being honest or looking for an out, but even if it's the latter it won't be for monetary gain.

I just dont understand why even bring up he is not worth the money and that the skins should cut him because he isnt worth that much. Why not break it down to "you know i did not play to the level i expect of my self this season" and leave the money out of it. Thats all i am saying. Bringing money into it, muddies his assessment. IMO. I hope he stays though, i think he could really help us, if we make some offseason moves to help out the entire dline. He is a good vet to have and help learn the youngins for the future.

[Moe]

I just dont understand why even bring up he is not worth the money and that the skins should cut him because he isnt worth that much. Why not break it down to "you know i did not play to the level i expect of my self this season" and leave the money out of it. Thats all i am saying. Bringing money into it, muddies his assessment. IMO. I hope he stays though, i think he could really help us, if we make some offseason moves to help out the entire dline. He is a good vet to have and help learn the youngins for the future.

Because you can't eliminate the money from the equation, especially when it's that significant. It should be noted that he never said that he should be cut, rather he said that he would be blind to not think it's a possibility because of the dollars. He's not stupid, he knows that he could likely skate if he was making a fraction of that, but the fact is that he has a monster number, he's been in the league longe enough to know this business and he's got his eyes open. Semantics are pointless, as are some empty promises about why he might do either way. If Snyderatto want him gone, his "commitment" this offseason won't change that.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Parcells didn't know Jason Taylor would get injured. Parcells didnt necessarily know that Taylors performance would drop dramatically in one year either.

But Parcells did know that he came in to rebuild a team from the ground up. He knew that a 34year old defensive end with a 8M/year salary and eyes on Hollywood has no place on a team that is rebuilding. The money and cap charge are better spent elsewhere. The skins would be wise to take a similar approach with Taylor. We should make it known that we are willing to trade him and keep him on the roster in the offseason as long as we can. See if any teams make us any offers. If we got as much as a 4th rounder in this years draft, we should take it and trade him. If not, we can release him without penalty.

[Biggie]

The JT trade isn't going to hurt much until the second-rounder we traded turns into a Hall of Famer.

[shally]

Because you can't eliminate the money from the equation, especially when it's that significant. It should be noted that he never said that he should be cut, rather he said that he would be blind to not think it's a possibility because of the dollars. He's not stupid, he knows that he could likely skate if he was making a fraction of that, but the fact is that he has a monster number, he's been in the league longe enough to know this business and he's got his eyes open. Semantics are pointless, as are some empty promises about why he might do either way. If Snyderatto want him gone, his "commitment" this offseason won't change that.

could go either way.. at least it sounds as though taylor believes he "owes" the team something.. dont hear that kind of sentiment from springles, do we ??

[shally]

The JT trade isn't going to hurt much until the second-rounder we traded turns into a Hall of Famer.

like tatum bell ?? :)

[Biggie]

like tatum bell ?? :)
Oh no, I have a bad feeling about this one.

Then again, if we still had the second rounder, we'd probably draft a WR who'd be out of the league in three years.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Just had a thought - if Taylor retired this year and never played football again, would we get a Compensatory pick?

[BurgundyNGold]

The JT trade isn't going to hurt much until the second-rounder we traded turns into a starter and contributor.
Fixed. ;)

[shally]

Oh no, I have a bad feeling about this one.

Then again, if we still had the second rounder, we'd probably draft a WR who'd be out of the league in three years.

taylor jacobs....lol

[shally]

Just had a thought - if Taylor retired this year and never played football again, would we get a Compensatory pick?

we would probably owe parcells ANOTHER pick...lol

[Ibleedburgundy]

At least he told it like it is. I can respect that.

[skinsfan36]

well atleast hes honest this interview makes me think hes gone next year. i would like to see him healthy and with a new dc calling the plays

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Another awesome Vinny move. ***thumbs up***

[oldskinfan]

well atleast hes honest this interview makes me think hes gone next year. i would like to see him healthy and with a new dc calling the plays

amen.

[oldskinfan]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/12/jason_taylor_possibly_one_and.html

[guess88]

Thoughts on JT aside, it's interesting what he said when comparing our D to the Ravens. It seems as though the only person who constantly plays with fire on that side of the ball is London, but he's been doing that his whole life. I'd love a DC who could light a fire under everyone and get them passionate about what they do.

[Redskinmayhem]

The JT trade isn't going to hurt much until the second-rounder we traded turns into a Hall of Famer.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that tortures myself by tracking our traded draft pics lol.

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/12/jason_taylor_possibly_one_and.html

I've always thought that Taylor could walk after this season and this doesn't change my opinion. I would say the odds are 50/50 of him not on the Skins next year, IMO.

[JasonCampbell]

I thought it would be hard for Vinny to outdo himself with the Archuletta and B. Lloyd moves, but if JT leaves after one year, 1.5 sacks, $8 million, and a second and fifth round pick, I'd have to say he did outdo himself.

It is mind boggling this guy has a job.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I thought it would be hard for Vinny to outdo himself with the Archuletta and B. Lloyd moves, but if JT leaves after one year, 1.5 sacks, $8 million, and a second and fifth round pick, I'd have to say he did outdo himself.

It is mind boggling this guy has a job.

Amen. Danny could instantly become the greatest GM in the history of the NFL just by doing the exact opposite of what Vinny tells him to do.

[smoak]

goodbye jason... we hardly knew ye.

[shally]

I've always thought that Taylor could walk after this season and this doesn't change my opinion. I would say the odds are 50/50 of him not on the Skins next year, IMO.

i agree.. 50/50

[NCskinsfanatic]

I think the odds that it would even matter if he returns next year are 50/50...this DL needs more help than Taylor can provide, especially up the middle.

[shally]

I think the odds that it would even matter if he returns next year are 50/50...this DL needs more help than Taylor can provide, especially up the middle.

blache doesnt want a pass rusher.. he wants daniels back...

[sinskin]

well atleast hes honest this interview makes me think hes gone next year. i would like to see him healthy and with a new dc calling the plays


I am not an advocate of a new DC but if we have to have one I vote the secondary coach stays!

[JasonCampbell]

blache doesnt want a pass rusher.. he wants daniels back...

Do you think Blache will be back? The guy had to be talked out of retirement.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Do you think Blache will be back? The guy had to be talked out of retirement.

Yeah. That was worth it...any chance he can be talked back into retirement? Perhaps taking Daniels with him?

[skin4ever]

Yeah. That was worth it...any chance he can be talked back into retirement? Perhaps taking Daniels with him?

i concur with your sarcasm.lol

[skinsfan36]

i think he may retire and springs,washington,daniels,griffin all get the axe

[shally]

Do you think Blache will be back? The guy had to be talked out of retirement.

worst "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" moment that snyder had last year.
if he had let blache stayed retired, it would be hard for me to see we could have been much worse. now, if blache comes back for yet another year, we will be screwed worse...

[shally]

i think he may retire and springs,washington,daniels,griffin all get the axe

yup.. and perhaps taylor comes back for another year with a more aggressive DC who can utilize his talents...

[JasonCampbell]

yup.. and perhaps taylor comes back for another year with a more aggressive DC who can utilize his talents...

You mean there are actual coaches out there that don't try to force players into their own schemes? That's cutting edge, man :)