should we have an interest in vonnie holliday

[warpaint]

i see where miami has cut holliday ,he plays end,is 6 5 around 285 pounds, 34 years old , dont like the age but he is probably better than evans or daniels, your thoughts please .

[Moe]

Lotta mileage on him. Not only is he mid-30's but he's had a few surgeries throughout his career. I don't see the upside.

[Hr fan]

Lotta mileage on him. Not only is he mid-30's but he's had a few surgeries throughout his career. I don't see the upside.

JT is gone, VH is a run stopper (fitting Blache's scheme, which means the fo won't consider it), he will be cheap, he is a very positive locker room presence, and he is younger than the corpse of Phillip Daniels. Maybe there is some upside?

[shally]

all true.. but not sure he is much better than PD anyway.. both are old.

[Hr fan]

With our many needs and with Blache being pro ancient citizens/anti pass rush, it could save the fo from selecting a DE that doesn't fit and won't be used.

[AliBabba]

a joke? we're kidding here right? No Thanks.

He's 33. He played DE for Miami last year. Am I in the friggin' Twilight Zone? I've seen this movie and it ends badly. If we want to address DE we need to do so with either a draft pick or a young, cheap FA acquisition.

THere is NO value to bringing in old bodies anymore

[VegasSkinsFan]

i see where miami has cut holliday ,he plays end,is 6 5 around 285 pounds, 34 years old , dont like the age but he is probably better than evans or daniels, your thoughts please .

Only if we can send Miami next years 2nd and 6th as a Christmas gift :smash:

[BurgundyNGold]

a joke? we're kidding here right? No Thanks.

He's 33. He played DE for Miami last year. Am I in the friggin' Twilight Zone? I've seen this movie and it ends badly. If we want to address DE we need to do so with either a draft pick or a young, cheap FA acquisition.

THere is NO value to bringing in old bodies anymore
Unless they're at or near the vet minimum and they are targeting a specific, secondary need.

[SkinsFan#26]

i see where miami has cut holliday ,he plays end,is 6 5 around 285 pounds, 34 years old , dont like the age but he is probably better than evans or daniels, your thoughts please .

NO THANXS we can get some young guys from practice squad B4 we over pay Holiday.....who is really Holloween !

[AliBabba]

Unless they're at or near the vet minimum and they are targeting a specific, secondary need.
Vet minimum sounds nice but we're talking about Snyderrato here. They bring in one of these clowns and they'll think "we're good" at DE or OLB for another couple years.

They were ready to roll with Daniels last year.

Crowell is a decent guy to grab for OLB b/c we can play him for several years, if Barton wants to come for a 1-2yr vet min it's a possibilty I guess but only if we draft an OLB to replace him in April. Vonnie's done. Bring in Olshansky if they want a runstopping FA

[Luis Landa]

No thank you he is 35 years old we need to get younger.

[Patrick]

Stop with aquiring the 30+ players. Let's get younger, stronger, faster ....... and hopefully BETTER.

[HanburgerBum]

I think the Skins should be looking to give Wilson, Jackson and Buzbee a shot instead of bringing in another retread at the 11th hour, 59th minute of his career.

I wish the Skins had brought the Jason Taylor situation to a head a week ago. That would have given them a chance at Canty.

[BurgundyNGold]

I think the Skins should be looking to give Wilson, Jackson and Buzbee a shot instead of bringing in another retread at the 11th hour, 59th minute of his career.

I wish the Skins had brought the Jason Taylor situation to a head a week ago. That would have given them a chance at Canty.
That's a heckuva choice. Either an unproven UDFA never-was that nobody else wanted and who hasn't done much of anything or an old has-been who may not have much or any gas in the tank.

For the money, I say offer Bertrand Berry a 2 year deal, for $7M, $3M guaranteed. That gives you a proven multidimensional DE for the short term and leaves you plenty of $$$ to sign a FA guy for RT and OLB. Then you can draft Orakpo, Maybin or Johnson to split time with him as a rookie.

But that's just me. I prefer to have 2 or 3 quality players and a solid prospect to replace 1 of those instead of just 1 solid player and backfilling with UDFA with no plan beyond this season like Snyderrato. And, clearly, my way sucks given the fact that I have 0 Superbowl rings and they have, ummm, never mind. ;)

[shally]

Stop with aquiring the 30+ players. Let's get younger, stronger, faster ....... and hopefully BETTER.

well, i still like berry and he is 34

[smoak]

I couldn't have less interest. Lets start drafting on the lines

[HanburgerBum]

That's a heckuva choice. Either an unproven UDFA never-was that nobody else wanted and who hasn't done much of anything or an old has-been who may not have much or any gas in the tank.

For the money, I say offer Bertrand Berry a 2 year deal, for $7M, $3M guaranteed. That gives you a proven multidimensional DE for the short term and leaves you plenty of $$$ to sign a FA guy for RT and OLB. Then you can draft Orakpo, Maybin or Johnson to split time with him as a rookie.

But that's just me. I prefer to have 2 or 3 quality players and a solid prospect to replace 1 of those instead of just 1 solid player and backfilling with UDFA with no plan beyond this season like Snyderrato. And, clearly, my way sucks given the fact that I have 0 Superbowl rings and they have, ummm, never mind. ;)


Well, if you think Berry has anything left in the tank, I would have no problem with him as a 2-year bridge to a long-term solution.

But, you know, sometimes a team just has to entrust a position to a home-grown younger player. Plenty other teams have done it. NE went with a QB who never started a single college game when Brady got hurt and came up smelling like a rose.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

what's wrong with bringing him here and talking to him?
he's bound to have more heart than jason taylor did!

[ChiefPowhatan17]

No thanks, I prefer players in their 20's.

[BurgundyNGold]

Well, if you think Berry has anything left in the tank, I would have no problem with him as a 2-year bridge to a long-term solution.
He hasn't slowed down in the least and helped Arizona get to the Superbowl as the starting DE. Plus he is known as locker room hero, the kind that puts Daniels' locker room rep to shame.

But, you know, sometimes a team just has to entrust a position to a home-grown younger player. Plenty other teams have done it. NE went with a QB who never started a single college game when Brady got hurt and came up smelling like a rose.
I could have gone with that sentiment if the Redskins chose to do it last season before trading away a 2nd and a 6th for Jason Taylor.

As for Cassel, that was because Brady blew his knee out in Week 1 and they had no other option, lol. We've had the whole offseason and 2 weeks with $9M+ of cap space and we haven't replaced Taylor on the depth chart. There is ample talent out there and it is relatively cheap now because the demand is down. Knowingly going into the season without addressing that need is beyond foolish, it's downright negligent.