Would You Trade Betts for Braylon Edwards? [Archive]

GenMgr

03-04-2009, 08:40 PM

Per Rotoworld.com

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=140797

The NY Daily News passes along a "hot rumor" that the Browns have put Braylon Edwards on the trade block.

This comes from Jets beat writer Rich Cimini, who may just be reading the tea leaves after an unsubstantiated rumor had Edwards going to the Giants for Mathias Kiwanuka. Despite his drop-filled 2008, the Browns simply cannot afford to trade Edwards. They've already given up Kellen Winslow.

3Taylor6

03-04-2009, 08:43 PM

that wouldnt happen in a million years without giving up more than just betts, but if that was the deal then yess.

akhhorus

03-04-2009, 08:44 PM

I'd trade him for some McDonald's money, but why would the Browns take a so-so backup Rb when they have Jamal Lewis, Jason Wright and Jerome Harrison--all of whom I'd rather have over Betts.

Tha Boss Hogg

03-04-2009, 08:44 PM

Tha Boss Hogg

03-04-2009, 08:48 PM

Torry Holt has requested to be released by the Rams.
The Rams have found no takers while shopping Holt, likely because the rest of the league knows they won't pay his $1.25M roster bonus on March 17. Failing to exercise the bonus would terminate Holt's contract and make him a free agent. The Rams probably aren't going to get anything for him.

???

MONK_in_HOF

03-04-2009, 08:48 PM

Is this a serious question? Betts for Edwards straight up? The NBA is the only league with trades that lopsided. Is there anybody who wouldn't trade Betts for Edwards?

GenMgr

03-04-2009, 08:51 PM

Sorry for the obvious..over on the "other" board, the same question was considered sacrilegious.

csquared

03-04-2009, 09:31 PM

Can we change the title to the thread please?

shally

03-04-2009, 10:17 PM

I'd trade him for some McDonald's money, but why would the Browns take a so-so backup Rb when they have Jamal Lewis, Jason Wright and Jerome Harrison--all of whom I'd rather have over Betts.

exactly.. never gonna happen

akhhorus

03-04-2009, 10:20 PM

Sorry for the obvious..over on the "other" board, the same question was considered sacrilegious.

Can't say I'm surprised.

(this isn't directed at you GenMgr)Can someone please explain the Ladell Betts fetish? Okay, he had a good stretch of games in 06, but other than when he was playing for a contract, he blows.

paulskinsfan

03-04-2009, 10:25 PM

Man, its sooooo refreshing to be on a site with some knowledgable fans. I remember discussing this on another site a year or so ago, and people went freakin NUTS. Ladell Betts is just a whisker above average. Plus, the dude fumbles at key moments. They should've traded his ass 2 years ago when they legitmately could've gotten at least a 2nd round pick. Then again, that would take some intelligence, something our front office has not had in a long, long time.

ClubSandwichGuy

03-04-2009, 10:26 PM

A number one receiver for a not very good backup running back?

akhhorus

03-04-2009, 10:28 PM

RedskinsDave

03-04-2009, 10:30 PM

The Edwards for Kiwi makes a lot more sense but I would guess a pick would be in there too.

WinnpegSkinsFan

03-04-2009, 10:43 PM

I would trade Betts for Edwards. However, Cleveland would not. Never gonna happen.

NCskinsfanatic

03-04-2009, 10:46 PM

Betts is nothing special and could have been replaced by now imo. Byner loved the guy though and it didnt hurt his chances of sticking with that 1000yard effort in his walk year. Rock hasnt proven to be more than a special teamer and that has helped kept Betts safe.

skinsfan36

03-04-2009, 11:05 PM

the only way this would be possible is if cerrato as their gm to accept this trade

BigCountry

03-04-2009, 11:27 PM

I'd trade Moss for straight up Edwards straight up and if they didn't go for that I'd walk away.

shally

03-04-2009, 11:46 PM

this is simply not going to happen

joethefan

03-05-2009, 06:58 AM

i think the only reason ladelle is on this team is cause cp approves......we need a change up guy a smaller quicket type dude...

Fathead

03-05-2009, 07:01 AM

I'd trade Betts for a bag of Doritos.

smoak

03-05-2009, 07:24 AM

Can't say I'm surprised.

(this isn't directed at you GenMgr)Can someone please explain the Ladell Betts fetish? Okay, he had a good stretch of games in 06, but other than when he was playing for a contract, he blows.

I don't agree that he "blows", but I don't see him as anything other than a backup who contributes 5-7 touches per game.

Patrick

03-05-2009, 07:40 AM

I don't agree that he "blows", but I don't see him as anything other than a backup who contributes 5-7 touches per game.
Exactly..... Really don't think we should be worried about what Betts is worth to the Skins - he has his role and fills it well enough. To many other areas to focus on

NamVet4

03-05-2009, 08:43 AM

Exactly..... Really don't think we should be worried about what Betts is worth to the Skins - he has his role and fills it well enough. To many other areas to focus on

Brother Patrick is right! Betts worth is not the issue for making our Beloved Team better this season.
Don't like Betts... too bad... He's here until our faux GM can figure out a dumb a$$ package that moves him. (too tortuous to try and think about)

LATrueRedskin

03-05-2009, 08:46 AM

No, I'd rather keep Betts over Braylon Edwards. :rolleyes:

SkinsfaninNJ

03-05-2009, 09:17 AM

Exactly..... Really don't think we should be worried about what Betts is worth to the Skins - he has his role and fills it well enough. To many other areas to focus on

I don't know. A lot of other teams are getting much more out of their second RB then we are.

SkinsGuru

03-05-2009, 09:20 AM

Maybe the better question is "What would you trade for Braylon Edwards???"

firehawk157

03-05-2009, 09:26 AM

This thread is about as relevant as a Stephon Heyer for Peyton Manning thread.

firehawk157

03-05-2009, 09:27 AM

I don't know. A lot of other teams are getting much more out of their second RB then we are.
I see his point though, out of all the holes we could put our limited cap space to, 2nd RB has to be way down the list.

skin4ever

03-05-2009, 09:55 AM

The only reason i would do it, is because when betts drops the ball its a fumble, for edwards its usually a dead play but our pass offense is so anemic anyway, i doubt i would notice.

Moe

03-05-2009, 09:57 AM

This thread is about as relevant as a Stephon Heyer for Peyton Manning thread.

Typical move for this FO, trading a young, cheap guy for an old vet on the downside of his career....wait, what :)

shally

03-05-2009, 10:25 AM

Typical move for this FO, trading a young, cheap guy for an old vet on the downside of his career....wait, what :)

...............which is why it wont happen with TO and holt and harrison already out there

skin4ever

03-05-2009, 10:35 AM

...............which is why it wont happen with TO and holt and harrison already out there

That would be a formidable WR corp. Sure they have only a little more left in the tank. But pretty steller all the same. These guys would help any team get to the dance.

ChiefPowhatan17

03-05-2009, 12:20 PM

Yes in a heartbeat. Edwards is 10 times the player that Betts is. Betts thinks alot of himself, but really he is good for a 1/2 yard when it's 4th and 1 and the game is on the line.

LadyNRedskinsfan

03-05-2009, 01:32 PM

Yes. Next question please.......

Skinz4lyfe

03-05-2009, 01:43 PM

To answer the question, yes I would do it in a second. Would Cleveland agree to it? No. I don't even think Matt Millen would agree to that one.

Jon Creveling

03-05-2009, 02:01 PM

Betts thinks alot of himself,

Not to defend everyones favorite punching bag but can you back this up?

The guy showed up in his first camp not even signed, where and when did he get a big head?

ShaggySkins

03-05-2009, 06:03 PM

While we are at it lets trade Devin Thomas for Peyton Manning. They both have about the same shot of occurring.

silverspring

03-05-2009, 06:21 PM

He has a bad case of the drops

shane88

03-05-2009, 08:05 PM

Heck, I'd trade Betts for a pre-chewed doggie biscuit!
Cleveland will want at least a 2nd for Edwards, methinks.

chrisbcbu

03-06-2009, 10:44 AM

Yes. Next question please.......

+1!

I wouldnt even think twice about it! After the trade i would celebrate like its 1999!

VegasSkinsFan

03-06-2009, 01:50 PM

Yes. Next question please.......

Ok I will play....since Edgerrin James wants out of AZ...would you trade Betts for James ??

colkurtz

03-06-2009, 02:31 PM

Betts has no worth. Only on this team and franchise would we keep a guy like him and not develop new talent at RB.

older RB have a low value in the NFL. Betts has NO trade value.

HanburgerBum

03-06-2009, 03:45 PM

Betts has no worth. Only on this team and franchise would we keep a guy like him and not develop new talent at RB.

older RB have a low value in the NFL. Betts has NO trade value.

Betts has no worth? Cut him, and he will find a job in about two seconds backing up some starter. He has already shown that he can carry the load when the starter goes down, and his body has not been battered. I would guess Betts would fetch a mid-rounder (third thru 5th).

HanburgerBum

03-06-2009, 03:51 PM

I'd trade Moss for straight up Edwards straight up and if they didn't go for that I'd walk away.

Trade Santana Moss for Edwards? Are you nuts? Edwards led the NFL in drops last season (TO was 2nd). Why do you think Cleveland wants to get rid of him?

Santana is currently the Skins only home run threat in the passing game. He is coming off a good year and his hands are made of glue compared to Edwards' hands.

akhhorus

03-06-2009, 04:08 PM

Betts has no worth? Cut him, and he will find a job in about two seconds backing up some starter. He has already shown that he can carry the load when the starter goes down, and his body has not been battered. I would guess Betts would fetch a mid-rounder (third thru 5th).

Based on what? Deuce McAlister, Rudi Johnson, Dominic Rhodes, DeShaun Foster and Warrick Dunn all still can't find jobs, why would anyone want Betts over any of them?

Trade Santana Moss for Edwards? Are you nuts? Edwards led the NFL in drops last season (TO was 2nd). Why do you think Cleveland wants to get rid of him?

Santana is currently the Skins only home run threat in the passing game. He is coming off a good year and his hands are made of glue compared to Edwards' hands.

Moss' hands are probably worse than Edwards'.

HanburgerBum

03-08-2009, 04:27 PM

Based on what? Deuce McAlister, Rudi Johnson, Dominic Rhodes, DeShaun Foster and Warrick Dunn all still can't find jobs, why would anyone want Betts over any of them?

Moss' hands are probably worse than Edwards'.

McAlister, Johnson and Dunn are all has-beens whose bodies have been battered. They have no worth. Rhodes is a so-so RB. I am a little surprised that Foster hasn't found a home. But, then again, he was cut by Carolina a year ago--proving he has very little, if any, value.

I may be overly optimistic that Betts can fetch a mid-rounder, but at least he still has a relatively "young" body and has never been waved. I do think he would find a job fairly easily if he were.

As for Edwards' hands vs Moss' hands, I guess we disagree. Moss does drop an occasional pass, but he has demonstrated very good ball skills in the past. Edwards is an overrated cry baby with some TO-like traits. He led the NFL in drops this past year and probably torpedoed his team's season and Derek Anderson's stay in Cleveland.

shally

03-08-2009, 04:31 PM

McAlister, Johnson and Dunn are all has-beens whose bodies have been battered. They have no worth. Rhodes is a so-so RB. I am a little surprised that Foster hasn't found a home. But, then again, he was cut by Carolina a year ago--proving he has very little, if any, value.

I may be overly optimistic that Betts can fetch a mid-rounder, but at least he still has a relatively "young" body and has never been waved. I do think he would find a job fairly easily if he were.

As for Edwards' hands vs Moss' hands, I guess we disagree. Moss does drop an occasional pass, but he has demonstrated very good ball skills in the past. Edwards is an overrated cry baby with some TO-like traits. He led the NFL in drops this past year and probably torpedoed his team's season and Derek Anderson's stay in Cleveland.

betts is not worth a mid rounder.. you can find guys like him every year in the mid rounds of the draft who dont have his wear.. he has had injuries over the years

akhhorus

03-08-2009, 05:06 PM

McAlister, Johnson and Dunn are all has-beens whose bodies have been battered. They have no worth. Rhodes is a so-so RB. I am a little surprised that Foster hasn't found a home. But, then again, he was cut by Carolina a year ago--proving he has very little, if any, value.

I may be overly optimistic that Betts can fetch a mid-rounder, but at least he still has a relatively "young" body and has never been waved. I do think he would find a job fairly easily if he were.

Those guys are accomplished, and still might have something left in the tank. Betts is a never-was and is a dime a dozen. I doubt you could get anything for him besides a handshake. Looking at the list of FA rbs, there aren't many available Rbs I would rather have Betts over.

As for Edwards' hands vs Moss' hands, I guess we disagree. Moss does drop an occasional pass, but he has demonstrated very good ball skills in the past. Edwards is an overrated cry baby with some TO-like traits. He led the NFL in drops this past year and probably torpedoed his team's season and Derek Anderson's stay in Cleveland.

Moss led the NFL in drops in 2007, and the problem didn't go away in 2008. Edwards has a terrible hands, Moss' are much worse. If we had a competent FO, they would be ridding themselves of that cancer.

HanburgerBum

03-10-2009, 07:02 PM

betts is not worth a mid rounder.. you can find guys like him every year in the mid rounds of the draft who dont have his wear.. he has had injuries over the years

It is indeed possible that I have the reverse "grass is greener in the neighbor's yard" syndrome when it comes to Betts. I still like him as our backup, especially at his modest price. But, maybe, he wouldn't fetch a mid-rounder.

HanburgerBum

03-10-2009, 07:06 PM

Those guys are accomplished, and still might have something left in the tank. Betts is a never-was and is a dime a dozen. I doubt you could get anything for him besides a handshake. Looking at the list of FA rbs, there aren't many available Rbs I would rather have Betts over.

Moss led the NFL in drops in 2007, and the problem didn't go away in 2008. Edwards has a terrible hands, Moss' are much worse. If we had a competent FO, they would be ridding themselves of that cancer.

I may very well be wrong about Betts' worth. But, I still would not trade Moss for Edwards. I don't think Santana is a cancer on this team. In fact, I think he is the Skins' only real weapon at WR (unless and until Thomas and/or Kelly blossoms). And, Santana is not a loudmouth cry baby.

akhhorus

03-10-2009, 07:11 PM

I may very well be wrong about Betts' worth. But, I still would not trade Moss for Edwards. I don't think Santana is a cancer on this team. In fact, I think he is the Skins' only real weapon at WR (unless and until Thomas and/or Kelly blossoms). And, Santana is not a loudmouth cry baby.

He's just a quiet cry baby who pulls himself out of games when he wants to. And he doesn't scare any opposing defenses any more.