Redskins sign Punter Dirk Johnson [Archive] - hailRedskins.com Fan Board

Tha Boss Hogg

03-05-2009, 12:54 PM

Sweet!.1 yards per punt more than Plackendough and a half yard less than Frosty ... Great Signing!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1963

Why not Hunter Smith???

AliBabba

03-05-2009, 12:55 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1963

Why not Hunter Smith???
I think you know the answer to that ...

shally

03-05-2009, 01:09 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1963

Why not Hunter Smith???

less cost ?

Tha Boss Hogg

03-05-2009, 01:13 PM

less cost ?

My guess too...

dj_stouty

03-05-2009, 01:15 PM

Who?

BurgundyNGold

03-05-2009, 01:15 PM

Who?
He sounds like a porn actor, lol.

shally

03-05-2009, 01:18 PM

ex eagles punter ? if so, he has more experience punting in bad weather than smith, who was a dome punter

Gravy

03-05-2009, 01:31 PM

...Is this really an upgrade to what we've had?

shally

03-05-2009, 01:34 PM

...Is this really an upgrade to what we've had?

frosty ? plackenmeier ??

yup

Skinz4lyfe

03-05-2009, 01:36 PM

less cost ?

We're taking the 'ol ball coaches philosophy to special teams. Cheap and available. I guess it never occured to the FO why these guys are available? :confused:

skinfan43

03-05-2009, 02:41 PM

Punted well for his time with the Eagles, but they didnt want to pay him more when his deal was up. Well, he cant be worse than what we've had recently... knock on wood, lol

shally

03-05-2009, 02:48 PM

We're taking the 'ol ball coaches philosophy to special teams. Cheap and available. I guess it never occured to the FO why these guys are available? :confused:

not just spurrier's.. also gibbs.. we had kelly goodburn, who was the lowest rated punter for about 3 years under gibbs..

LadyNRedskinsfan

03-05-2009, 02:54 PM

Punter?? We don't need no stinkin' punter........

VegasSkinsFan

03-05-2009, 03:02 PM

Punter?? We don't need no stinkin' punter........

Exactly, with our D...nobody is going to score and we will be the first team to make it to the superbowl with an offense that averages 8 points a game. :)

LadyNRedskinsfan

03-05-2009, 03:04 PM

Exactly, with our D...nobody is going to score and we will be the first team to make it to the superbowl with an offense that averages 8 points a game. :)
I'm glad someone else has the same views as myself around here. :D

VegasSkinsFan

03-05-2009, 03:11 PM

I'm glad someone else has the same views as myself around here. :D

I am pretty good at math....if we average 8 points a game and only let up 3 max...we win every game by 5. Now the 8 points comes like this....somehow we score a td...but since colt brennan is our kicker, he misses....then AH will get a safety. GO SKINS !!!!!!

Tha Boss Hogg

03-05-2009, 03:12 PM

I am pretty good at math....if we average 8 points a game and only let up 3 max...we win every game by 5. Now the 8 points comes like this....somehow we score a td...but since colt brennan is our kicker, he misses....then AH will get a safety. GO SKINS !!!!!!
:smash:
:devil2:

shally

03-05-2009, 03:21 PM

Exactly, with our D...nobody is going to score and we will be the first team to make it to the superbowl with an offense that averages 8 points a game. :)

dont know how much more the ravens averaged during their SB run a few years past

Nomad

03-05-2009, 03:56 PM

Sounds like the name of a porn star.

Gravy

03-05-2009, 03:59 PM

frosty ? plackenmeier ??

yup

Shally don't tease me...what was the name of that Australian Football Player that punted for San Diego Chargers a couple of years ago...he was good

shally

03-05-2009, 04:10 PM

Shally don't tease me...what was the name of that Australian Football Player that punted for San Diego Chargers a couple of years ago...he was good

darren bennett................not sure where he is now

BurgundyNGold

03-05-2009, 06:38 PM

Sounds like the name of a porn star.
Too late. :)

skinsfan36

03-05-2009, 11:14 PM

well hes an upgrade over plackenmier. he will compete with atterberry. another punter competition this summer.

hogskins

03-06-2009, 12:55 AM

Sounds like the name of a porn star.

Otherwise, the signing of such a mediocre punter might not even warrant its own thread...

bigcmr

03-06-2009, 03:03 AM

He better not be known as Dirk the Jerk!

RedskinsDave

03-06-2009, 08:44 AM

Am I the only person who thought Plack was doing just fine?

flave1969

03-06-2009, 08:55 AM

Am I the only person who thought Plack was doing just fine?

No I thought he was fine also and had a couple of fabulous games.

shally

03-06-2009, 03:05 PM

Am I the only person who thought Plack was doing just fine?

might be...lol....jk... he had a decent game or 2, but on the whole i think we could have kept brooks and achieved the same thing over the course of a year..

brooks was clearly shaky.. but plack was equally shaky without the excuse of being a rookie

AGibbsGirl

03-06-2009, 04:25 PM

Well, I'm glad we got that important position filled with the best that money could buy... :smash:

So did I miss something? Did we not already have a Punter?

VegasSkinsFan

03-06-2009, 04:42 PM

Well, I'm glad we got that important position filled with the best that money could buy... :smash:

So did I miss something? Did we not already have a Punter?

Didnt you hear...snyder is attempting to get a new rule adopted. You use 2 punters....the first punter kicks it 27 yards to the 2nd punter, who then kicks it 33 yards....and now we have a 60 yd punt. GO SKINS !!!

shally

03-06-2009, 05:29 PM

Well, I'm glad we got that important position filled with the best that money could buy... :smash:

So did I miss something? Did we not already have a Punter?

well, now we actually have one with nfl experience.. he was good enough to punt the entire season the eagles went to the SB.. that is reference enough for me right now.. let's see what he can do against attaboy !! my money is on our johnson (lol, couldnt resist that one...)

BurgundyNGold

03-06-2009, 05:52 PM

well, now we actually have one with nfl experience.. he was good enough to punt the entire season the eagles went to the SB.. that is reference enough for me right now.. let's see what he can do against attaboy !! my money is on our johnson (lol, couldnt resist that one...)
Well, compare for yourself and tell me if it was worth dicking around with a punter in the first few days of FA when we have yet to address OT, DE or OLB...

Dirk Johnson (previous job: Director, Special Projects, NUMA)
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4454/redskinsstatsdirkjohnso.png

... or ...

Ryan Plackemeier
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1210/redskinsstatsryanplacke.png

BurgundyNGold

03-06-2009, 05:56 PM

Oh, and for additional giggles, here's Vinny's magnum opus...

Durant Brooks:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/81/redskinsstatsdurantbroo.png

Tha Boss Hogg

03-06-2009, 06:14 PM

Oh, and for additional giggles, here's Vinny's magnum opus...

Durant Brooks:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/81/redskinsstatsdurantbroo.png

Sad, me and him have the same B-Day...

AGibbsGirl

03-06-2009, 06:24 PM

Hold up, hold up...I see I did not fully appreciate our new punter until BNG put up the pic...now I think I'm a big fan...me likey

I may have to break out the marshmellow man :Fruit:

BurgundyNGold

03-06-2009, 06:36 PM

Hold up, hold up...I see I did not fully appreciate our new punter until BNG put up the pic...now I think I'm a big fan...me likey

I may have to break out the marshmellow man :Fruit:
You do realize that your marshmallow man looks a lot like Plackemeier...

AGibbsGirl

03-06-2009, 06:38 PM

You do realize that your marshmallow man looks a lot like Plackemeier...
Oooooh....yeah...I see your point, but I bet MMM can kick farther

shally

03-06-2009, 06:56 PM

Oh, and for additional giggles, here's Vinny's magnum opus...

Durant Brooks:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/81/redskinsstatsdurantbroo.png

i dont think it is a zero-sum issue as far as P versus LB, OL.. all of them have to get done

you and i are on the same page when it comes to team needs, for the most part.
i think they need to get those other positions settled, but punter was still something that needed to get done.

regardless of Johnson's resume last year, i still think he is step up over plackenmeier, who just looked terrible to me.. i would have had no problems with Brooks getting a second look, but he is out of the equation now

NCskinsfanatic

03-06-2009, 06:56 PM

Sad, me and him have the same B-Day...

Well atleast your an aries...we have that in commom too...mines the 9th lol. Infact quite a few of the regulars here are Aries.

Tha Boss Hogg

03-06-2009, 06:58 PM

Well atleast your an aries...we have that in commom too...mines the 9th lol. Infact quite a few of the regulars here are Aries.

lol, Aries UNITEEEEEEEEEE...

shally

03-06-2009, 06:58 PM

Well atleast your an aries...we have that in commom too...mines the 9th lol. Infact quite a few of the regulars here are Aries.

what does that say, you-'all have no lives ? i had an ex who was an Aries.. enough for me...lol

NCskinsfanatic

03-06-2009, 07:20 PM

lol, Aries UNITEEEEEEEEEE...

Lmao...Carmikes one too

what does that say, you-'all have no lives ? i had an ex who was an Aries.. enough for me...lol

C'mon shally dont let one fiesty woman ruin your opinion of us all lol...

Tha Boss Hogg

03-06-2009, 07:22 PM

Lmao...Carmikes one too

C'mon shally dont let one fiesty woman ruin your opinion of us all lol...

+1, Life is to short to hold grudges

:Peace:

BurgundyNGold

03-06-2009, 07:59 PM

i dont think it is a zero-sum issue as far as P versus LB, OL.. all of them have to get done

you and i are on the same page when it comes to team needs, for the most part.
i think they need to get those other positions settled, but punter was still something that needed to get done.

regardless of Johnson's resume last year, i still think he is step up over plackenmeier, who just looked terrible to me.. i would have had no problems with Brooks getting a second look, but he is out of the equation now
My point is, we have gaping holes at several positions that need to be addressed. Plus, for once, we have the cap space to do something about it and the best players available at the best price points that FA has seen in years.

And yet, we're putzing around, signing a freaking punter who was statistically worse in every major category last season than what we already had. That's like having a broken leg, cracked ribs and femoral hemorrhage but taking time to make sure that a hang nail is taken care of first.

Buffoonery, plain and simple.

BurgundyNGold

03-06-2009, 08:00 PM

C'mon shally dont let one fiesty woman ruin your opinion of us all lol...
He doesn't mind feisty. His current wife is a red head, lol.

shally

03-06-2009, 08:07 PM

Lmao...Carmikes one too

C'mon shally dont let one fiesty woman ruin your opinion of us all lol...

feisty ??? harrrumph... evil, more like it..lol

shally

03-06-2009, 08:08 PM

My point is, we have gaping holes at several positions that need to be addressed. Plus, for once, we have the cap space to do something about it and the best players available at the best price points that FA has seen in years.

And yet, we're putzing around, signing a freaking punter who was statistically worse in every major category last season than what we already had. That's like having a broken leg, cracked ribs and femoral hemorrhage but taking time to make sure that a hang nail is taken care of first.

Buffoonery, plain and simple.

cant argue with that one bit... maybe they have a low opinion of the guys out there now ? maybe they figure a better class of free agent willbe out there after the draft ??? and maybe i am giving them credit for more sense than those morroooons have...

shally

03-06-2009, 08:09 PM

He doesn't mind feisty. His current wife is a red head, lol.

amen on that !!! feisty is good !!!

NCskinsfanatic

03-06-2009, 08:24 PM

feisty ??? harrrumph... evil, more like it..lol

Well Aries was God of War lmao...

shally

03-06-2009, 08:26 PM

Well Aries was God of War lmao...

all kidding aside, life is too short to hold any grudges, or stay angry.. and i dont...

BurgundyNGold

03-06-2009, 08:29 PM

cant argue with that one bit... maybe they have a low opinion of the guys out there now ? maybe they figure a better class of free agent willbe out there after the draft ??? and maybe i am giving them credit for more sense than those morroooons have...
Well, then maybe they should have an even lower opinion of who we currently have. Since they clearly have no idea what relative talent is (given past FA signings, draft futility, etc.) they might want to take a gander at this:

ESPN 2009 NFL Free Agent Rankings (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/fa?&action=login&appRedirect=http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/fa)

The best part is the ranking scores are free. And sortable. :) If Snyderrato want to spring for the $30 or whatever it is for an annual subscription to ESPN Insider, they can even read the scouting reports.

BTW, you'll notice that Phillip Daniels' score is a 60. Out of 100. Which is only 5 points better than a corpse.

Buffoonery, I say!

Tha Boss Hogg

03-06-2009, 08:37 PM

Well, then maybe they should have an even lower opinion of who we currently have. Since they clearly have no idea what relative talent is (given past FA signings, draft futility, etc.) they might want to take a gander at this:

ESPN 2009 NFL Free Agent Rankings (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/fa?&action=login&appRedirect=http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/fa)

The best part is the ranking scores are free. And sortable. :) If Snyderrato want to spring for the $30 or whatever it is for an annual subscription to ESPN Insider, they can even read the scouting reports.

BTW, you'll notice that Phillip Daniels' score is a 60. Out of 100. Which is only 5 points better than a corpse.

Buffoonery, I say!

I don't have insider, could you tell me the scores of the guys the skins are targeted...

BurgundyNGold

03-06-2009, 08:50 PM

I don't have insider, could you tell me the scores of the guys the skins are targeted...
Shoot. I thought the score came up without subscription. Sorry about that.

PM me your email.

shally

03-06-2009, 08:55 PM

Well, then maybe they should have an even lower opinion of who we currently have. Since they clearly have no idea what relative talent is (given past FA signings, draft futility, etc.) they might want to take a gander at this:

ESPN 2009 NFL Free Agent Rankings (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/fa?&action=login&appRedirect=http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/fa)

The best part is the ranking scores are free. And sortable. :) If Snyderrato want to spring for the $30 or whatever it is for an annual subscription to ESPN Insider, they can even read the scouting reports.

BTW, you'll notice that Phillip Daniels' score is a 60. Out of 100. Which is only 5 points better than a corpse.

Buffoonery, I say!

i dont get insiders, so i will have to take your word on the rankings..

but they are nothing, if not consistent in one regard-- they over value older players and under value younger ones, all things being equal

Gravy

03-06-2009, 08:59 PM

shally

03-06-2009, 09:07 PM

HHMMMMM...all of the guys ya'll have been mentioning on these boards the last few days that the Skins' are "supposedly" looking at...are being signed...I wonder what "they" are looking for or "who" they are waiting for...

fooled me....:moon2:

actually, the more i thought about it, the more i thought that they were going to use the cap space for a trade,, especially since they didnt sign someone right away and dont seem to be anxious to do anything right now- despite all the obvious needs.. and they still might do that in the end

i will be the first to admit that figuring out what these yo-yo's are up to is nigh unto impossible because they never seem to have any plan, or usual way of addressing needs... figuring them out is like figuring out Brownian Motion of atoms-- it appears completely random to the observer

Tha Boss Hogg

03-06-2009, 09:11 PM

Seahawks re-signed OT Ray Willis to a two-year, undisclosed contract. Willis, the Seahawks top backup offensive lineman the past couple of seasons, ended up starting 10 games last year. He was courted by the Redskins before deciding to stay in Seattle.

Man WTF ARE THEY DOINGGGGGGGG...

BurgundyNGold

03-06-2009, 09:19 PM

Man WTF ARE THEY DOINGGGGGGGG...
Willis scored a 59 according to Scouts, Inc. The same as Stephon Heyer. That's about right. Why spend money on what you already have? Call Kalif Barnes or Richie Incognito and be done with it already. Geesh.

shally

03-06-2009, 10:28 PM

Willis scored a 59 according to Scouts, Inc. The same as Stephon Heyer. That's about right. Why spend money on what you already have? Call Kalif Barnes or Richie Incognito and be done with it already. Geesh.

barnes signed yesterday with oaktown, i believe.. and incognito re -upped just before the start of free agency

(posted at 2 different site...lol..)

JLC says now we will pursue E Brown.. what is his espn rating ?

Tha Boss Hogg

03-06-2009, 10:57 PM

barnes signed yesterday with oaktown, i believe.. and incognito re -upped just before the start of free agency

(posted at 2 different site...lol..)

JLC says now we will pursue E Brown.. what is his espn rating ?

What do you know a 59 lol...

skinsfan36

03-06-2009, 10:59 PM

i think brown is a major sleeper i think between him and clark or heyer someone steps up to be the right tackle of the future. people may not agree with that but thats my opinion

shally

03-06-2009, 10:59 PM

What do you know a 59 lol...

not much to choose between them, eh ???

shally

03-06-2009, 11:01 PM

i think brown is a major sleeper i think between him and clark or heyer someone steps up to be the right tackle of the future. people may not agree with that but thats my opinion

see what our own chief Mod has had to say on that one.. he isnt a fan of Brown.

that said, the guy has had a bad body and poor conditioning since his college days. he has been a fat man.. Dockery is said to be in far better shape now. Heyer seems to be working in that direction. finally, someone posted here that Brown was supposedly working himself into a lot better shape recently.. maybe the guy has potential ? he sure has size, so who knows ?

BurgundyNGold

03-07-2009, 10:52 AM

What do you know a 59 lol...
Friggin' Fabini is a 58, and he only plays for 3 seconds on any given play, lol. If they have Daniels as a 60 and Fabini is a 58, you can say the scale if pretty consistent, if nothing else.

Tha Boss Hogg

03-07-2009, 12:28 PM

Friggin' Fabini is a 58, and he only plays for 3 seconds on any given play, lol. If they have Daniels as a 60 and Fabini is a 58, you can say the scale if pretty consistent, if nothing else.

Yeah, it seems that way, so are we going to target brown or barnes???

Gravy

03-07-2009, 12:32 PM

Yeah, it seems that way, so are we going to target brown or barnes???

Gosh who knows???? Ronald Curry good kid being an FSU (ACC) guy I got to watch him play quite a bit at North Carolina...

Tha Boss Hogg

03-07-2009, 12:41 PM

Gosh who knows???? Ronald Curry good kid being an FSU (ACC) guy I got to watch him play quite a bit at North Carolina...

I am still trying to figure out how come he isn't still playing QB...

shally

03-07-2009, 01:17 PM

I am still trying to figure out how come he isn't still playing QB...

accuracy ? ability to read a pro defense ?

Tha Boss Hogg

03-07-2009, 01:21 PM

accuracy ? ability to read a pro defense ?

I meant didn't he get switched before he even got drafted...

BurgundyNGold

03-07-2009, 01:29 PM

Yeah, it seems that way, so are we going to target brown or barnes???
Either would be fine. Fabini give up more sacks than a fertilizer factory.

shally

03-07-2009, 01:38 PM

I meant didn't he get switched before he even got drafted...

that usually says something when it happens

Either would be fine. Fabini give up more sacks than a fertilizer factory.

fabini isnt even on radar any more

BurgundyNGold

03-07-2009, 02:04 PM

fabini isnt even on radar any more
Oner wouldn't think that Daniels would be on the radar either. Oh, and for context, Fabini wasn't on radar last year at this time after being released. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Washington_Redskins_season#Free_agents_headin g_into_the_2008_season:

shally

03-07-2009, 02:09 PM

Oner wouldn't think that Daniels would be on the radar either. Oh, and for context, Fabini wasn't on radar last year at this time after being released. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Washington_Redskins_season#Free_agents_headin g_into_the_2008_season:

i think that Daniels is firmly in Blache's plans..

Fabini ? yeah, i could see them picking him up if we have a rash of injuries, but if they choose to sign him early, it speaks volumes about the backup young players we have.. and the total incompetence of the front office and coaching staff.

BurgundyNGold

03-07-2009, 02:13 PM

i think that Daniels is firmly in Blache's plans..

Fabini ? yeah, i could see them picking him up if we have a rash of injuries, but if they choose to sign him early, it speaks volumes about the backup young players we have.. and the total incompetence of the front office and coaching staff.
Daniels needs to go. Blache's allegiance to him his beyond ridiculous at this point. He's become Warrick Holdman.

shally

03-07-2009, 02:15 PM

Daniels needs to go. Blache's allegiance to him his beyond ridiculous at this point. He's become Warrick Holdman.

worse is wynn.. if they sign him, i am going to hurl.. what next, Lang (same age/same draft class as wynn)??

BurgundyNGold

03-07-2009, 02:20 PM

worse is wynn.. if they sign him, i am going to hurl.. what next, Lang (same age/same draft class as wynn)??
I haven't even heard mention of Wynn. That guy was done 3 years ago, even if the Gints managed to squeeze a play out of him here and there.