Jay Cutler to the Bears

[BurgundyNGold]

NFL Network reporting this now. Link to follow.

[akhhorus]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1508720,bears-cutler-040209.article



The Bears acquired quarterback Jay Cutler today for No. 1 draft picks in 2009 and 2010, a No. 3 pick this year and Kyle Orton, the Sun-Times has learned.
The Bears receive the Broncos' fifth-round draft pick this year.

[BurgundyNGold]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1508720,bears-cutler-040209.article
Wow. Talk about getting a visit from The Sisters...

[csquared]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1508720,bears-cutler-040209.article

Thats a kings ransom there. Good lord.

[AliBabba]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1508720,bears-cutler-040209.article
wow ... i am so glad we didn't do this deal. I thought the two first round picks was a bluff.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Thank the Lord! No more talk about this mess. Now its time to repair the relationship with JC and the FO because he's upset with them.

[AliBabba]

at least they got that fifth rounder back though ... can hang their hat on that all right

[shally]

i want to see Wilbon's next column...

[SpicyMcHaggis]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1508720,bears-cutler-040209.article

Wow. I didn't know that Cutler was a mix of Joe Montana, Dan Marino and John Elway.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

traded for kyle orton and 2 number 1 draft picks.
the bears surprised us all.

[csquared]

Actually the 3rd and 5th rounders werent a part of it. ESPN says just the 2 firsts.

[Skins57]

damn...damn...damn

[RedskinsDave]

And we can move this to the correct forum now.......

[csquared]

Was this thread really needed? we have 14 other Cutler threads.

[akhhorus]

Have you seen this Vinny hacked email jpeg?

[shally]

Actually the 3rd and 5th rounders werent a part of it. ESPN says just the 2 firsts.


surprised we didnt match that..

[HAWGZHEAD]

Actually the 3rd and 5th rounders werent a part of it. ESPN says just the 2 firsts.They have the third on there in one of their graphics now. (on ESPN News)

[NCskinsfanatic]

They have the third on there in one of their graphics now.

JLc says they swapped the 3rd and 5th...

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-la-canfora/bears-land-cutler.html

[HAWGZHEAD]

JLc says they swapped the 3rd and 5th...

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-la-canfora/bears-land-cutler.html
lol I am just gonna wait till tomorrow to sort the picks out.

[oldskinfan]

Two first and Kyle Orton for Cutler and a 3rd.

This tells me the Skins stood firm on a 2nd for Campbell and could not get it from the Broncos or another team.

[RedskinsDave]

surprised we didnt match that..

Two first AND Campbell?!!

[HAWGZHEAD]

So who is starting the Will Campbell be in DC next year thread in the cherokee?

[akhhorus]

From JLC:


The Denver Broncos have agreed to trade quarterback Jay Cutler to the Chicago Bears in exchange for Kyle Orton, two No. 1 picks and the teams swapped third- and fifth-round picks.

Cutler had expressed a strong desire to play in Chicago throughout the process, according to a source who had spoken to the player. The Redskins had been active in negotiations, offering multiple draft picks and putting together several proposals over the last two days, a league source said.

[ClubSandwichGuy]

It doesn't seem like the bears to do that kind of a trade.

But now for Fantasy Football I can mark Orton as a sleeper and Cutler as a bust. That is my prediction. Orton has great year while Cutler struggles.

[bigcmr]

WOW I like Cutler but thats way to much. Im glad we didnt make that move.

[NCskinsfanatic]

From JLC:

This is gonna effect a lot of off-season negotiations for us imo. Dont know that Danny will come out of this as the beloved owner some players think he is. The only thing that may save him is if Campbell still doesnt get any better...

[Skinzlover223]

It doesn't seem like the bears to do that kind of a trade.

But now for Fantasy Football I can mark Orton as a sleeper and Cutler as a bust. That is my prediction. Orton has great year while Cutler struggles.

haha forget Orton. Let's keep a tab on who has a better year Cutler or Campbell.

[shally]

Two first AND Campbell?!!

this years and next.. yup.. i am surprised that Snyder didnt match.. didnt say i approve of it, only that we didnt actually do it...

then again, it would be hard to have a lower opinion of the Front Office, but that would do it..

[ClubSandwichGuy]

haha forget Orton. Let's keep a tab on who has a better year Cutler or Campbell.
They both are actually in very similar offenses (except ours is west-coast) when you think about it.


Anyways, have been doing some reading on a Chicago Bears message board. It seems that Bears fans are VERY excited about the trade. Haven't seen a single post yet that says they gave up too much for Cutler. I know that is what I would be thinking if I was a Bears fan.

[RedskinsDave]

Now Cutler will be playing in an offense closer to what Campbell has had. Let's compare numbers at the end of the year.....

[shally]

Orton is chump change...

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

Orton is chump change...

but those 2 numero unos in april more than make up for orton.:sun:

[HAWGZHEAD]

Looks like Chi signed Orlando Pace as well

[shally]

Now Cutler will be playing in an offense closer to what Campbell has had. Let's compare numbers at the end of the year.....

he apparently also has an O line with O Pace added to it...

[NCskinsfanatic]

he apparently also has an O line with O Pace added to it...

The Bears have signed like 17 RTs this offseason, if any of them were any good they wouldnt still be adding imo. Im glad we didnt trade away that much for Jay but I hope it doesnt make players lose the desire to want to play here with this fracken FO.

[shally]

The Bears have signed like 17 RTs this offseason, if any of them were any good they wouldnt still be adding imo. Im glad we didnt trade away that much for Jay but I hope it doesnt make players lose the desire to want to play here with this fracken FO.

they lost St Clair and that is what triggered the need..

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

anybody think the skins won't take sanchez if he is'nt available at 13?

[Skins7ny]

Thank the Lord! No more talk about this mess. Now its time to repair the relationship with JC and the FO because he's upset with them.
The only way to do that is with a new contract, and Dan and Vinny don't seem inclined to do that right now.
Wow. I didn't know that Cutler was a mix of Joe Montana, Dan Marino and John Elway.
He is not.
I have been holding it in, but trading for Cutler would really have ticked me off. I am very glad we did not make this trade, but it seems as if it was another episode of other teams (this time, the Bears) saving Danny (I am not even sure Vinny was in the equation on this one, despite all their Clean Slate bull) from himself.

The Cutler pursuit was another sad example of Snyder coveting big names from other teams instead of valuing and developing his own players. This a move that makes sense only on the surface, but falls apart when you check into it further. Snyder makes moves with his heart, not his brain. Thank goodness this attempt failed.

Campbell has had one full season as the starter in a new offensive system. He went almost half the season without throwing a pick despite having no one to throw to and a first-time playcaller as a coach. Campbell still played pretty well the 2nd half of the season when his OL got old overnight and his WRs disappeared.

He had an amazingly low INT percentage (1.2). Him not throwing more TDs is a function of his lack of playmakers on offense more than it is his fault. Campbell has shown the maturity and drive to get better, and commands the respect and affection of his teammates. Desptie the ineptitude of his OL and his WRs last year, he never complained about them and never threw any of his teammates or coaches under the bus. In his 2nd year in Zorn's offense, he should be ready to blossom, if he gets any contribution at all from the young WRs and his OL can protect him reasonably well.

Cutler, on the other hand, is a hothead who throws lots of interceptions and is easily rattled. He calls out his teammates, gets involved in stupid head games with opposing players and coaches, and is generally immature. Couple the fact that he has type 1 diabetes with strong rumors of alcohol use, and the odds of him having a long, successful career are questionable. Diabetics should not be drinking. There are questions about his lifestyle and dedication to the game. Meanwhile, he has never taken his team to the playoffs and is used to playing with superior offensive talent. There is zero indication he would be any more successful with our 10 other offensive starters than Campbell was. None. There is evidence that he would have folded under the pressure of playing with an ineffective OL and the worst set of pass-catchers in the league.

This was a typical Fantasy Football move by Snyder. Thank goodness it failed.

[Skins7ny]

They both are actually in very similar offenses (except ours is west-coast) when you think about it.


Anyways, have been doing some reading on a Chicago Bears message board. It seems that Bears fans are VERY excited about the trade. Haven't seen a single post yet that says they gave up too much for Cutler. I know that is what I would be thinking if I was a Bears fan.

Acquiring Cutler makes a lot more sense for the Bears than it has for us. Cutler has a strong arm to deal with windy days and nights in Chicago, and the Bears haven't spent the last two years playing a young, talented QB that they invested a 1, 3 and 4 in trading for. They had Kyle Orton, and there is no question that Cutler is an upgrade for them.

Still the concerns I raised with Cutler hold just as true for the Bears. And teams like the Ravens have proven that you can win Super Bowls with good defenses and careful game managers who don't put up great numbers, which is what Orton is. Orton has an excellent winning percentage with the Bears, and that is nothing to sneeze at. The Bears WR corps is possibly even worse than ours (I know, I said ours was the worst, but we are probably better than Chicago's and San Fran's), and the Bears have serious OL problems (even with Pace) that they cannot address in the 1st round.
It will be interesting to see how Cutler does up there.

I am glad we still have Jason. I think he is every bit the talent Cutler is.

[shally]

anybody think the skins won't take sanchez if he is'nt available at 13?


we will be saved from further folly because he will be long gone before then..if they trade up, i am going to hurl, because that is the only way they have a shot..

[shally]

Acquiring Cutler makes a lot more sense for the Bears than it has for us. Cutler has a strong arm to deal with windy days and nights in Chicago, and the Bears haven't spent the last two years playing a young, talented QB that they invested a 1, 3 and 4 in trading for. They had Kyle Orton, and there is no question that Cutler is an upgrade for them.

Still the concerns I raised with Cutler hold just as true for the Bears. And teams like the Ravens have proven that you can win Super Bowls with good defenses and careful game managers who don't put up great numbers, which is what Orton is. Orton has an excellent winning percentage with the Bears, and that is nothing to sneeze at. The Bears WR corps is possibly even worse than ours (I know, I said ours was the worst, but we are probably better than Chicago's and San Fran's), and the Bears have serious OL problems (even with Pace) that they cannot address in the 1st round.
It will be interesting to see how Cutler does up there.

I am glad we still have Jason. I think he is every bit the talent Cutler is.


i think with Pace, chicago's O line is more stable than ours

[NCskinsfanatic]

i think with Pace, chicago's O line is more stable than ours

Not if he suits up less than Springles lol...

[NCskinsfanatic]

we will be saved from further folly because he will be long gone before then..if they trade up, i am going to hurl, because that is the only way they have a shot..

So freeman then, I sure hope not? Why not just trade down and add Bohmar(sp) with A 3rd if we have to have a guy hes probably just as good anyway?

[give_portis_the_rock]

Maybe this was all just a calculated plan by Danny to motivate Jason to become the true franchise QB we all want him to be? ...


....

ok maybe not

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

we will be saved from further folly because he will be long gone before then..if they trade up, i am going to hurl, because that is the only way they have a shot..


well we all know the dynamic duo and wonderboy are'nt above doing that don't we?:smash::Peace:

[shally]

well we all know the dynamic duo and wonderboy are'nt above doing that don't we?:smash::Peace:

nothing they would do would surprise me..

[LATrueRedskin]

Who cares. It's not like this whole process affected us at all. :)

[smoak]

So flippin' happy!

[skinsfan36]

i think with Pace, chicago's O line is more stable than ours

pace will be injured by week 6

[skinsfan36]

sucks we didnt land cutler. the bears payed a king ransom though. it takes alot to outbid us and they did. now do we try to go for stafford. campbell,next years,2nd,#13 for the lions first pick? btw screw sanchez,i would dislike him more then jason mediocre

[dogfight6]

This will go down as one of the dumbest trades along with H.Walker and R. Williams. Denver just rebuilt their defense.