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WinnpegSkinsFan
04-26-2009, 07:41 PM
Didn't see a thread on this so I'll start one.
Skins sign Missouri QB Chase Daniel as a UDFA:
http://www.columbiatribune.com/weblogs/behind-the-stripes/2009/apr/26/undrafted-tigers-wait-for-fa-deals/
Colt Brennan fans can start sweating, LOL!!!

JasonCampbell
04-26-2009, 07:44 PM
Isn't there a site out there that updates these things pretty nicely? I remember seeing it last year.

BurgundyNGold
04-26-2009, 07:45 PM
Day 2 was pretty much UDFAs that we selected with actual draft picks. Ugh.

CarMike
04-26-2009, 07:47 PM
More success in UDFA than in the draft. lmao

VegasSkinsFan
04-26-2009, 07:48 PM
Isn't there a site out there that updates these things pretty nicely? I remember seeing it last year.

www.kffl.com

shally
04-26-2009, 07:49 PM
Didn't see a thread on this so I'll start one.
Skins sign Missouri QB Chase Daniel as a UDFA:
http://www.columbiatribune.com/weblogs/behind-the-stripes/2009/apr/26/undrafted-tigers-wait-for-fa-deals/
Colt Brennan fans can start sweating, LOL!!!

now THAT is a great signing !

i was hoping they would draft daniels and this is even better.. too small... too cocky... played in only 1 style of offense.. but the guy is smart and tough.

i think he WILL give brennan a run for his money

VegasSkinsFan
04-26-2009, 07:54 PM
Interesting pick. Bummed that the texans picked up watkins from fl.

VegasSkinsFan
04-26-2009, 08:04 PM
Just signed OT Scott Burley MD our first oline guy

http://www.umterps.com/sports/m-foot...y_scott00.html

NCskinsfanatic
04-26-2009, 08:24 PM
now THAT is a great signing !

i was hoping they would draft daniels and this is even better.. too small... too cocky... played in only 1 style of offense.. but the guy is smart and tough.

i think he WILL give brennan a run for his money

http://nfldraftblitz.com/chasedanielfree.htm

Height and arm strength are the issues here. The more you watch him, the more you see the Jeff Garcia in his game. Daniel is a sparkplug. There's no reason he can't have a similar pro career.

Biggie
04-26-2009, 08:28 PM
Just signed OT Scott Burley MD our first oline guy

http://www.umterps.com/sports/m-foot...y_scott00.html
I like Burley - mostly because of his name. Not a bad pickup. :)

NCskinsfanatic
04-26-2009, 08:29 PM
I like Burley - mostly because of his name. Not a bad pickup. :)

Any terp fans have any insight?

Biggie
04-26-2009, 08:33 PM
Any terp fans have any insight?
I mean, I never am able to pay much attention to individual o-linemen during a game, but I remember having a good impression of him and we always do have a pretty solid running game. Didn't he get hurt though?

NCskinsfanatic
04-26-2009, 08:35 PM
UDFA's so far...

Redskins
QB Chase Daniel (Missouri)
OT Scott Burley (Maryland)
DE Derek Walker (Illinois)


http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2009/04/2009-undrafted-free-agent-signings-list.html

CarMike
04-26-2009, 08:36 PM
I knew our FO had a plan for the OL! woo hoo! :rolleyes:

native skin
04-26-2009, 08:40 PM
I knew our FO had a plan for the OL! woo hoo! :rolleyes:

....going cheap on the backbone of a football team. amazing...

NCskinsfanatic
04-26-2009, 08:42 PM
Derek Walker
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?Prospect_ID=1722

In 47 games at Illinois, Walker has tallied 110 tackles, 24.5 tackles for loss, 15 sacks, and 6 passes broken up in coverage. Walker plays the run well, and fits into both a 4-3 and 3-4 defensive system. These attributes, along with his consistent effort, should get him drafted in the late fourth or early fifth round.
Derek Walker, like many others, ran poorly at the NFL Combine. He logged just a 4.99 second 40 yard dash, and failed to really raise his stock. Walker gives plenty of effort and will provide a team nice depth, which should keep him in the sixth round.

BurgundyNGold
04-26-2009, 08:46 PM
Derek Walker
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?Prospect_ID=1722
Jesus, they can't even select adequate dregs, lol.

NCskinsfanatic
04-26-2009, 08:46 PM
Couldnt find much on Burley...

http://walterfootball.com/proday2009march11.php

Scott Burley, OT, Maryland
Height: 6-5. Weight: 335.
Projected 40 Time: 5.37.
Pro Day 40 Time: 5.45.
Benchx225: 19.
Projected Round (2009): 7-FA.
1/6/09: Able to play both guard and right tackle, Scott Burley was an All-ACC honorable mention.

5/24/08: Despite being hampered by ankle injuries throughout the season, people thought enough of Scott Burley to vote him on the All-ACC second team. Burley should be able to play right tackle and guard at the next level.

LadyNRedskinsfan
04-26-2009, 08:50 PM
Why is it that the acquisition of just three UDFA's have been seemingly more successful than the actual back end of the draft? :lol1: I know time will tell but still......:rolleyes:

NCskinsfanatic
04-26-2009, 08:54 PM
We got a C...
http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2009/04/2009-undrafted-free-agent-signings-list.html

Redskins
QB Chase Daniel (Missouri)
OT Scott Burley (Maryland)
DE Derek Walker (Illinois)
WR Josh Briscoe (Tennessee)
C Edwin Wiliams (Maryland)

Biggie
04-26-2009, 08:56 PM
We got a C...
http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2009/04/2009-undrafted-free-agent-signings-list.html
At least we got E Williams, considering that a lot of us wanted to draft him.

NCskinsfanatic
04-26-2009, 08:57 PM
At least we got E Williams, considering that a lot of us wanted to draft him.

Yeah maybe he and Burley can give us some young depth...you never know lol.

SkinKing
04-26-2009, 09:03 PM
Any terp fans have any insight?

Burley is a big boy.. During his senior year he was playing at 330lbs. Has quick feet. Better run blocker than pass blocker. He has some upside, but I think he will be a practice squad player. He needs to get stronger and better coached.

Before his senior year, the coaching staff hyped him up, thinking he could be a solid NFL prospect. I don't think he will be anything special, but if he loses some weight and plays with more passion than he could be a good pick up.

NCskinsfanatic
04-26-2009, 09:03 PM
Edwin Williams

http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/3/29/805504/c-edwin-williams-maryland


e overall world-class depth of this year's center class is driving down the value of good players like Williams. Because he isn't the tremendous athlete of the top of the class, teams can expect to start bidding for his services later in the second day, and they may just get a steal. Williams had the admiration of his teammates and coaches for his leadership both on and off the field, and he could be counted on to disrupt surprise-blitzers and to call the exotic defensive plays correctly for his team. Adequate strength and speed, with excellent short-area quickness and a great explosion off the snap, he can be beaten by quicker defenders consistently, and struggles to maintain longer blocks on the stronger players. Overall a solid player with limited upside but who could provide dependable depth for years.

skinsfan36
04-26-2009, 09:03 PM
edwin williams may make the team as the backup center more excited about him then any of our final picks. jlc reporting daniels,williams signings
as for others i want
augustus parrish-unsigned
jason watkins-texans
gerald callogan-panthers
pierre waters-chiefs
joel bell--unsigned

SkinKing
04-26-2009, 09:07 PM
At least we got E Williams, considering that a lot of us wanted to draft him.

Edwin will eventually play and maybe our future center. He is a very smart player. He started all 4 years at Maryland and was considered the best center in the ACC by many. He loves to run block, but is very good at calling out blitzes and understands the game. I knew we would get him, but I really thought we would ended up drafting him.

BurgundyNGold
04-26-2009, 09:07 PM
Hey, Cedric Dockery is an UDFA. ;)

VegasSkinsFan
04-26-2009, 09:09 PM
Panthers got Cadogan...i wanted him. I have a relative who coaches for the panthers...he has got to be happy about getting him.

VegasSkinsFan
04-26-2009, 09:12 PM
How about a kicker or 2....gano or sakoda

shally
04-26-2009, 09:13 PM
At least we got E Williams, considering that a lot of us wanted to draft him.

good pick up

feeling a little better now

shally
04-26-2009, 09:15 PM
Hey, Cedric Dockery is an UDFA. ;)

smaller, slower, fatter, lazier version of our own DD..

let him go to buffalo first and get punished a little

JasonCampbell
04-26-2009, 09:17 PM
Panthers got Cadogan...i wanted him. I have a relative who coaches for the panthers...he has got to be happy about getting him.

Crap, they got him and Duke, didn't they?

akhhorus
04-26-2009, 09:17 PM
smaller, slower, fatter, lazier version of our own DD..

let him go to buffalo first and get punished a little

He'll look like a triathlete next to Mike Williams.

SkinKing
04-26-2009, 09:20 PM
In regards to U of Maryland offensive line prospects. The reason they make rosters are due to Ralph Friedgen's NFL experience. He teaches them like any other NFL teams would. They also recruit huge guys. There average offensive line for the past 3 years have been 310lbs +. Next year you will see a kid name Bruce Campbell. 6'7 320lbs, most likely a 1st rounder.

Last year the Ravens got Jared Gaither in the supplemental draft with a 6th round pick. He goes 6'9 330lbs. Now he is their starting LT. I was hoping the skins would give up a 5th round for him. He was going to be a top 5 pick the next year.

Like Joe Bugal said, if we keep getting those UMD boys in UDFA, we will be ok.

Biggie
04-26-2009, 09:20 PM
Some teams know where games are won.Crap, they got him and Duke, didn't they?

VegasSkinsFan
04-26-2009, 09:22 PM
WR jaison williams oregon 6'4" 4.64 vikes got lb francois

BurgundyNGold
04-26-2009, 09:22 PM
Some teams know where games are won.
Merchandising, baby.

shally
04-26-2009, 09:24 PM
a little info on Josh Briscoe

bean pole.. 6' 3" 185

played 4 years for Tennessee.. first thought to be an avoider of contact but has matured and torched LSU inthe SEC champiohship game in 2007

didnt play as much in 2008 ..?? injuries ?


4 year totals

28 games
79 receptions
866 yards
8 TD's

worth seeing in camp.. i dont have any stats on his speed

NCskinsfanatic
04-26-2009, 09:25 PM
a little info on Josh Briscoe

bean pole.. 6' 3" 185

played 4 years for Tennessee.. first thought to be an avoider of contact but has matured and torched LSU inthe SEC champiohship game in 2007

didnt play as much in 2008 ..?? injuries ?


4 year totals

28 games
79 receptions
866 yards
8 TD's

worth seeing in camp.. i dont have any stats on his speed

read he runs a 4.4 forty has lots of speed...

SkinKing
04-26-2009, 09:25 PM
a little info on Josh Briscoe

bean pole.. 6' 3" 185

played 4 years for Tennessee.. first thought to be an avoider of contact but has matured and torched LSU inthe SEC champiohship game in 2007

didnt play as much in 2008 ..?? injuries ?


4 year totals

28 games
79 receptions
866 yards
8 TD's

worth seeing in camp.. i dont have any stats on his speed

Where exactly are these updates on UDFA coming from? I wanna check it out.

VegasSkinsFan
04-26-2009, 09:26 PM
Crap, they got him and Duke, didn't they?

Yes both Duke Robinson and Cadogan

shally
04-26-2009, 09:27 PM
WR jaison williams oregon 6'4" 4.64 vikes got lb francois

the search for big receivers continues..

shally
04-26-2009, 09:27 PM
Where exactly are these updates on UDFA coming from? I wanna check it out.

i googled him.. all the links are there..

VegasSkinsFan
04-26-2009, 09:28 PM
info on wr williams

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scouti...n-Williams.php

skinsfan36
04-26-2009, 09:29 PM
a little info on Josh Briscoe

bean pole.. 6' 3" 185

played 4 years for Tennessee.. first thought to be an avoider of contact but has matured and torched LSU inthe SEC champiohship game in 2007

didnt play as much in 2008 ..?? injuries ?


4 year totals

28 games
79 receptions
866 yards
8 TD's

worth seeing in camp.. i dont have any stats on his speed
i remember this guy playing way over his head in that sec title game.

VegasSkinsFan
04-26-2009, 09:31 PM
dockery goes to the saints

WinnpegSkinsFan
04-26-2009, 09:32 PM
In regards to U of Maryland offensive line prospects. The reason they make rosters are due to Ralph Friedgen's NFL experience. He teaches them like any other NFL teams would. They also recruit huge guys. There average offensive line for the past 3 years have been 310lbs +. Next year you will see a kid name Bruce Campbell. 6'7 320lbs, most likely a 1st rounder.

Last year the Ravens got Jared Gaither in the supplemental draft with a 6th round pick. He goes 6'9 330lbs. Now he is their starting LT. I was hoping the skins would give up a 5th round for him. He was going to be a top 5 pick the next year.

Like Joe Bugal said, if we keep getting those UMD boys in UDFA, we will be ok.
Good, I was hoping the Skins would pick up Williams. Probably a much better prospect than Geisinger was last year.

shally
04-26-2009, 09:34 PM
i remember this guy playing way over his head in that sec title game.

he was very modest and said he got the perfect matchups for him.. but he killed LSU almost by himself

SkinKing
04-26-2009, 09:34 PM
Saints signed C. Dockery

shally
04-26-2009, 09:37 PM
info on wr williams

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scouti...n-Williams.php

that link doesnt work for me.. but i found this info

6' 5" 237---- huge man, but hands are suspect.

ran a 4.47 at pro day (that CANT be true ??)

still, he is a huge target

shally
04-26-2009, 09:37 PM
Good, I was hoping the Skins would pick up Williams. Probably a much better prospect than Geisinger was last year.

as long as we dont ask him to block Suggs..lol

i still think the coaches are brain dead after that one..

BurgundyNGold
04-26-2009, 09:39 PM
2 more WR already? Really???

This does not bode well for the Chosen Deuces, lol.

native skin
04-26-2009, 09:40 PM
that link doesnt work for me.. but i found this info

6' 5" 237---- huge man, but hands are suspect.

ran a 4.47 at pro day (that CANT be true ??)

still, he is a huge target

Another Anthony Mix?! Yeah!!

SkinKing
04-26-2009, 09:42 PM
2 more WR already? Really???

This does not bode well for the Chosen Deuces, lol.

agreed... or Snyder is hoping to find a diamond in the rough to sell more jerseys.

shally
04-26-2009, 09:43 PM
2 more WR already? Really???

This does not bode well for the Chosen Deuces, lol.

you know what ? F em... i bet those UDFA's show up in the best shape of their lives, not like those other Azzclowns...

3 big guys, if you count our 7th rounder.. good developmental players, if nothing else

shally
04-26-2009, 09:45 PM
agreed... or Snyder is hoping to find a diamond in the rough to sell more jerseys.

oooooooooooooooooooh.. i feel the legion of awesome expanding...

SkinKing
04-26-2009, 09:49 PM
you know what ? F em... i bet those UDFA's show up in the best shape of their lives, not like those other Azzclowns...

3 big guys, if you count our 7th rounder.. good developmental players, if nothing else

Well no WR's are going to develop until Jason can take his eyes off Moss and Cooley to look around. I really hope he goes out there this year and spreads the ball around and be the QB I think he can be.

shally
04-26-2009, 09:52 PM
Well no WR's are going to develop until Jason can take his eyes off Moss and Cooley to look around. I really hope he goes out there this year and spreads the ball around and be the QB I think he can be.

if guys get open and dont drop the ball, and are where they should be, i bet that JC will at least try to find them

if nothing else, these guys are so big, they should leave jet wash and vapor trails behind them.. JC should have no problem seeing them downfield

VegasSkinsFan
04-26-2009, 09:56 PM
gano goes to the ravens would have been a great pickup for us, maybe we can get sakoda

SkinKing
04-26-2009, 10:00 PM
if guys get open and dont drop the ball, and are where they should be, i bet that JC will at least try to find them

if nothing else, these guys are so big, they should leave jet wash and vapor trails behind them.. JC should have no problem seeing them downfield

Well its contract year so I'm looking for a good season from Jason. Only problem is, I don't think we will resign him unless we franchise him if he does play well next year.

VegasSkinsFan
04-26-2009, 10:01 PM
the jags have already signed 18 guys wow

LadyNRedskinsfan
04-26-2009, 10:07 PM
2 more WR already? Really???

This does not bode well for the Chosen Deuces, lol.
We need more players for the Legion of Awesome collection. :D

BTW-After doing a lil Googling, Jaison Williams doesnt appear to have many backers, lol.

shally
04-26-2009, 10:30 PM
the jags have already signed 18 guys wow

casting a wide net. but because there is an 80 man limit for camp, a lot of those guys will get cut even before camp

shally
04-26-2009, 10:31 PM
Well its contract year so I'm looking for a good season from Jason. Only problem is, I don't think we will resign him unless we franchise him if he does play well next year.

not worried one bit about that.. guys in contract years always have the most incentive to play well..

Taylor21TheUndertaker
04-26-2009, 10:56 PM
Dang. Cornelius lewis from tenn st and Casillas from Wisc were UDFAs.

Taylor21TheUndertaker
04-26-2009, 10:57 PM
not worried one bit about that.. guys in contract years always have the most incentive to play well..

I guess he and Carlos are the potential tag victims.

JoeJacksonTaylor28
04-26-2009, 11:01 PM
We need more players for the Legion of Awesome collection. :D

BTW-After doing a lil Googling, Jaison Williams doesnt appear to have many backers, lol.
Sorry to get off topic... but why isn't Mccune in the Legion of Awesome? This has probably been explained before, but I should have missed it.

Taylor21TheUndertaker
04-26-2009, 11:04 PM
Jaison Williams has hands like Carlos.

BurgundyNGold
04-26-2009, 11:07 PM
Sorry to get off topic... but why isn't Mccune in the Legion of Awesome? This has probably been explained before, but I should have missed it.
He might end up in the LOA. He missed the inaugural cut. We'll be having a Legion vote during preseason. ;)

ObiWan1278
04-27-2009, 01:37 AM
I know I am a bit of a homer and its my alma mater and all but I wish the skins had of looked at or would look at Quinten Cotton from ECU....injured 3 games in last year at ECU but I think had he played he would have been drafted.

NCskinsfanatic
04-27-2009, 08:26 AM
http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2009/04/2009-undrafted-free-agent-signings-list.html

CB Doug Dutch (Michigan)

culpeper
04-27-2009, 09:09 AM
Im slowly feeling better about this whole ordeal. The TE drafted seems to be a "poor mans Jacob Hester" at FB (and on the heels of Sellers demands makes sense, not to mention Sellers completely wifs on blocks at times and is getting older). We got some decent OL prospects to work with, now we just need someone to step up.

I dont have a clue with the WRs, hopefully they push the 2's to step up.

Im a HUGE fan of the Daniels pick up. Collins should be gone, and Colt step to the #2. I want to see Zorn develop these two and if JC falls short this year, we have 2 guys in the wings and some good QBs coming n the 2010 draft. Great move...I just wish THEY made this choice rather than having it made for them by circumstance.

shally
04-27-2009, 09:11 AM
Im slowly feeling better about this whole ordeal. The TE drafted seems to be a "poor mans Jacob Hester" at FB (and on the heels of Sellers demands makes sense, not to mention Sellers completely wifs on blocks at times and is getting older). We got some decent OL prospects to work with, now we just need someone to step up.

I dont have a clue with the WRs, hopefully they push the 2's to step up.

Im a HUGE fan of the Daniels pick up. Collins should be gone, and Colt step to the #2. I want to see Zorn develop these two and if JC falls short this year, we have 2 guys in the wings and some good QBs coming n the 2010 draft. Great move...I just wish THEY made this choice rather than having it made for them by circumstance.

+1

could not agree more

LASkin
04-27-2009, 09:15 AM
LA media are reporting that the Redskins signed UDFA Brigham Harwell, a DT from UCLA. I was surprised that he wasn't drafted. He's not that big - around 6' and 285, if memory serves, but he was the guts of their D who has some pass rush ability.

USC wanted him as a HS recruit, but told him that he didn't have a future at DT - he should be a DE. He didn't like that and went to UCLA. It will be interesting to see where the skins put him.

shally
04-27-2009, 09:23 AM
http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2009/04/2009-undrafted-free-agent-signings-list.html

CB Doug Dutch (Michigan)

dutch is a recent conversion to CB from WR...1 year at the position as a senior.returned punts and plays special teams.. at least he should have semi decent hands
a project for sure

Gravy
04-27-2009, 09:24 AM
Dang, the Skins love the some UDFAs especially on the O-line...so when does the "Chase vs. Colt" war begin...

shally
04-27-2009, 09:27 AM
LA media are reporting that the Redskins signed UDFA Brigham Harwell, a DT from UCLA. I was surprised that he wasn't drafted. He's not that big - around 6' and 285, if memory serves, but he was the guts of their D who has some pass rush ability.

USC wanted him as a HS recruit, but told him that he didn't have a future at DT - he should be a DE. He didn't like that and went to UCLA. It will be interesting to see where the skins put him.

interesting.. sounds a little like K golston.. 6 1" and 285... will have to gain weight and strength.. inside run stuffer who made over 50 tackles as a senior with some for loss.. sounds like a penetrator..
solid guy.
wonder if he is a gift from walker again ?

shally
04-27-2009, 09:29 AM
Dang, the Skins love the some UDFAs especially on the O-line...so when does the "Chase vs. Colt" war begin...

that should be really fun to watch.. should divide loyalties pretty quickly among the fantasy watchers..

dj_stouty
04-27-2009, 09:38 AM
Chase seems to have more passion for the game than Colt. I really like the signing and it will be great to see the competition in camp and in preseason games...

shally
04-27-2009, 09:43 AM
Chase seems to have more passion for the game than Colt. I really like the signing and it will be great to see the competition in camp and in preseason games...

no kidding..

with a large probability that we dont have a long term starting qb in campbell, having 2 guys who have the POTENTIAL to grow into starters is critical.
this is similar to the redskins under gibbs drafting guys like rypien and humphries
despite there being no obvious need at the time.

both daniels and brennan were big time producers in college.. i like that a lot.

NCskinsfanatic
04-27-2009, 09:45 AM
interesting.. sounds a little like K golston.. 6 1" and 285... will have to gain weight and strength.. inside run stuffer who made over 50 tackles as a senior with some for loss.. sounds like a penetrator..
solid guy.
wonder if he is a gift from walker again ?

Well Walker might not have been his position coach but you can rest assured that we called him for some insight. He cant hurt and may offer an option for replacing Golston/Monty if they arent re-signed next year. Could be a Lorenzo Alexander type guy minus the offensive skills lol.

NCskinsfanatic
04-27-2009, 09:48 AM
no kidding..

with a large probability that we dont have a long term starting qb in campbell, having 2 guys who have the POTENTIAL to grow into starters is critical.
this is similar to the redskins under gibbs drafting guys like rypien and humphries
despite there being no obvious need at the time.

both daniels and brennan were big time producers in college.. i like that a lot.

I do too, neither may be more than back up material, but atleast we're looking. If Colt was deemed a project due to the O he played in than Chase certainly is. Brennan has better measurables and probably alittle more arm strength but I did like the Jeff Garcia comparison of Chase...one can only hope he'll be that good.

warpaint
04-27-2009, 09:54 AM
LA media are reporting that the Redskins signed UDFA Brigham Harwell, a DT from UCLA. I was surprised that he wasn't drafted. He's not that big - around 6' and 285, if memory serves, but he was the guts of their D who has some pass rush ability.

USC wanted him as a HS recruit, but told him that he didn't have a future at DT - he should be a DE. He didn't like that and went to UCLA. It will be interesting to see where the skins put him.

Brigham Harwell
Brigham Harwell

Player Profile
Class:
RS Senior
Hometown:
Chino Hills, CA
High School:
Los Altos

Height / Weight:
6-1 / 280
Position:
DT
Birthdate:
09/02/1985
Experience:
4V

2008 - Starter in all 12 games ... Finished sixth on the team with 53 tackles and third with 6.0 tackles for loss ... Earned second-team All-Pac-10 Conference honors from the league's coaches ... On the watch list for the 2008 Outland Trophy and the Lombardi Award ... Named first-team All-Pac-10 by Phil Steele College Football magazine and Rivals.com ... Recorded five tackles, including one for loss, in the opener against Tennessee ... Made a career-high eight tackles at BYU, including 0.5 for loss, and also broke up a pass ... Tied his career-best with eight stops against Arizona ... Added six tackles against Fresno State ... Had two tackles, including an eight-yard sack versus Washington State ... Made four tackles, including one for loss, at Oregon ... Made five tackles and recovered a fumble versus Stanford ... Made two stops at Cal ... Had six tackles against Oregon State, including 2.0 for loss, and forced a fumble ... Totaled two tackles, 0.5 for loss, at Washington ... Had four tackles at Arizona State ... Made one stop against USC.

NCskinsfanatic
04-27-2009, 09:59 AM
A second Redskins UDFA signing has been discovered via Twitter.


Notre Dame defensive end Justin Brown will be joining the Redskins. The source for this is a tweet from his former coach Charlie Weiss.


Brown is 6-3, 277 and started all of six games at Notre Dame, so he's the longest of long shots to make it. But it is interesting how news gets out these days.


http://realredskins.com/

NCskinsfanatic
04-27-2009, 10:19 AM
So we've signed the following 13 UDFA's...

http://blog.redskins.com/2009/04/27/the-redskins-undrafted-free-agent-class/#continued

More to come on these guys, but for now, here's the list:

•Chase Daniel, QB, Missouri
•Edwin Williams, C, Maryland
•Scott Burley, OL, Maryland
•Robert Agnone, TE, Delaware
•Devin Frischknecht, TE, Washington State
•John Halman, WR, Concordia
•Jaison Williams, WR, Oregon
•Derek Walker, DE, Illinois
•Antonio Dixon, DT, Miami (FL)
•Brigham Harwell, DT, UCLA
•Ronnie Palmer, LB, Arizona
•Lendy Holmes, S, Oklahoma
•Doug Dutch, CB, Michigan

shally
04-27-2009, 10:26 AM
So we've signed the following 13 UDFA's...

http://blog.redskins.com/2009/04/27/the-redskins-undrafted-free-agent-class/#continued

frischnecht was a good player on a very bad team.. solid, hard worker

already married with 1 child. very mature person. dont know if he has the measurables to compete at the NFL, but he will give a team every thing he has..

shally
04-27-2009, 10:41 AM
from www.walterfootball.com

antonio dixon: huge DT 6 3" 328 was considered a 3rd round prospect until he injured knee in 2007.. slow to recover in 2008

ronnie palmer: MLB 6 3" 245.... very intense worker. 70 tackles for 2008


lendy holmes: 6 206.. sounds like a conversion to S after getting burned as a corner. not enough speed for corner.. 4.65- 4.71
but made 79 tackles/ 5 picks/4 passes defended in 2008. 2nd team all big 12..

Skins7ny
04-27-2009, 10:54 AM
So Josh Briscoe and Justin Brown have NOT been signed?
Well its contract year so I'm looking for a good season from Jason. Only problem is, I don't think we will resign him unless we franchise him if he does play well next year.
We may not have the cap room to franchise him, which means we lose him for nothing, unless...
He will be a restricted free agent if there is no extension of the Collective Bargaining Agreement by then. We still would have to have the cap room to tender him at the highest level (which would require a 1st and a 3rd rounder as compensation) if the rules on restricted tenders still hold.
frischnecht was a good player on a very bad team.. solid, hard worker

already married with 1 child. very mature person. dont know if he has the measurables to compete at the NFL, but he will give a team every thing he has..
If Frischknecht makes the team, both Sonny and Sam are going to have to retire!

LASkin
04-27-2009, 11:02 AM
from www.walterfootball.com

antonio dixon: huge DT 6 3" 328 was considered a 3rd round prospect until he injured knee in 2007.. slow to recover in 2008

ronnie palmer: MLB 6 3" 245.... very intense worker. 70 tackles for 2008


lendy holmes: 6 206.. sounds like a conversion to S after getting burned as a corner. not enough speed for corner.. 4.65- 4.71
but made 79 tackles/ 5 picks/4 passes defended in 2008. 2nd team all big 12..

Good detective work on these guys, Shally. I've seen palmer - he was a good player on a pretty good defense at AZ.

By the way, Harrwell reminds me of Mike Patterson, ex USC and now with the Eagles, in his build and style. Patterson was definitely much better, but Harwell has a chance. He penetrates much better than you'd ever expect from a DT his size. I don't know if he can get much bigger, though, given his frame and a game based on quicks.

Meatsnack
04-27-2009, 11:04 AM
So Josh Briscoe and Justin Brown have NOT been signed?

We may not have the cap room to franchise him, which means we lose him for nothing, unless...
He will be a restricted free agent if there is no extension of the Collective Bargaining Agreement by then. We still would have to have the cap room to tender him at the highest level (which would require a 1st and a 3rd rounder as compensation) if the rules on restricted tenders still hold.

If Frischknecht makes the team, both Sonny and Sam are going to have to retire!
The microphones would cetainly smell of Crown Royal after they pronounce that a few times.

NCskinsfanatic
04-27-2009, 11:09 AM
The microphones would cetainly smell of Crown Royal after they pronounce that a few times.

lol...I'll take Sonny over Sam though.

I like a few of our UDFA's and almost all of them moreso than our 5th, 6th and our first 7th round pick. Marko didnt seem like a reach to me, so I'm actually alright with that pick. I'm really liking Williams from Maryland, Chase could be our ps QB and I betcha Palmer is just as talented as either Henson or Glenn.

BurgundyNGold
04-27-2009, 11:10 AM
lol...I'll take Sonny over Sam though.

I like a few of our UDFA's and almost all of them moreso than our 5th, 6th and our first 7th round pick. Marko didnt seem like a reach to me, so I'm actually alright with that pick. I'm really liking Williams from Maryland, Chase could be our ps QB and I betcha Palmer is just as talented as either Henson or Glenn.
Stop making me sad.

NCskinsfanatic
04-27-2009, 11:16 AM
Stop making me sad.

lol...not my intention B&G, look at it this way if some of these UFDA's are better than we still got good players despite Vinny's lack of effort. Vinny should just turn the draft over to Brown after the first day...every year.

BurgundyNGold
04-27-2009, 11:22 AM
lol...not my intention B&G, look at it this way if some of these UFDA's are better than we still got good players despite Vinny's lack of effort. Vinny should just turn the draft over to Brown after the first day...every year.
Vinny should just turn the draft over to the Yahoo autodraft.

NCskinsfanatic
04-27-2009, 11:38 AM
Vinny should just turn the draft over to the Yahoo autodraft.

atleast we would have heard of the players before lol...

dj_stouty
04-27-2009, 11:49 AM
Vinny should just turn the draft over to the Yahoo autodraft.

LMAO.

Or take the Skins draft board to the Gibbons cage at the DC Zoo and select which ever player's name got flung poo on it first..

BurgundyNGold
04-27-2009, 11:52 AM
LMAO.

Or take the Skins draft board to the Gibbons cage at the DC Zoo and select which ever player's name got flung poo on it first..
I'm pretty sure that's how they assign the "Redskins Grade", lol.

OCSKINSFAN
04-27-2009, 11:59 AM
[QUOTE=Skins7ny;1218582] We may not have the cap room to franchise him, which means we lose him for nothing, unless...
He will be a restricted free agent if there is no extension of the Collective Bargaining Agreement by then. We still would have to have the cap room to tender him at the highest level (which would require a 1st and a 3rd rounder as compensation) if the rules on restricted tenders still hold.

Re JC, even after what took place with the FO seeking other QB's, I doubt JC would want to leave if he got a decent offer from the Skins, i.e., moving from DC, relationship with Zorn and his team mates, and need to start over in another offensive system (particularly if he does well this year in this system).

LASkin
04-27-2009, 12:14 PM
Doug Dutch: Here's the word from a friend of mine in Ann Arbor who is a rabid Michigan fan. Sounds like training camp fodder at best:

"Doug Dutch was a back-up wide receiver for three years (it might have been 4 as he may have redshirted). He moved to CB this past season as a back-up and did not see hardly any playing time, except for special teams. He is quite fast – but no real experience – I am shocked they signed him, although, it does not take much to sign a guy to bring him into camp. It is possible, with his speed, that he could play on special teams, but I doubt it."

Skins7ny
04-27-2009, 12:16 PM
Good detective work on these guys, Shally. I've seen palmer - he was a good player on a pretty good defense at AZ....
Last time we signed an undrafted LB from Arizona, it worked out pretty well (Antonio Pierce). Maybe lightning will strike a second time.
Re JC, even after what took place with the FO seeking other QB's, I doubt JC would want to leave if he got a decent offer from the Skins, i.e., moving from DC, relationship with Zorn and his team mates, and need to start over in another offensive system (particularly if he does well this year in this system).
If JC has a great year, there will be a demand for his services. I have no doubt that Snyder and Vinny can make it up to him by saying nice things and writing him a signing bonus check for $20M, bygones will be bygones. Still, if JC is unrestricted, nothing will stop him from testing the waters and moving to another team if that is what he wants.

Skins7ny
04-27-2009, 12:19 PM
Doug Dutch: Here's the word from a friend of mine in Ann Arbor who is a rabid Michigan fan. Sounds like training camp fodder at best:

"Doug Dutch was a back-up wide receiver for three years (it might have been 4 as he may have redshirted). He moved to CB this past season as a back-up and did not see hardly any playing time, except for special teams. He is quite fast – but no real experience – I am shocked they signed him, although, it does not take much to sign a guy to bring him into camp. It is possible, with his speed, that he could play on special teams, but I doubt it."

Last year as I recall, they signed 9 undrafted free agents, and released about 4 of them after minicamp in order to give their roster spots to some of the tryout guys they invited to the minicamp. Same will probably happen this year, with Dutch sounding like a good candidate to be cut.

jaylen
04-27-2009, 12:21 PM
I like some of the UDFA's we do better than then the guys we actualy drat which is a shame. I guess we let our actual scouts make those selections.

Williams from U Of Md has a chance as does Dixon from the U and a coupple of the other d lineman.

Skins7ny
04-27-2009, 12:31 PM
So Josh Briscoe and Justin Brown have NOT been signed?....
To potentially answer my own question, I count 78 guys signed to our roster, including the expected announcement regarding P Hunter Smith later today. That leaves two spots open, maybe Briscoe and Brown are going to fill them, but they are waiting on the announcement for some reason.

shally
04-27-2009, 12:40 PM
wonder if any of our Blue Hen fans here can comment on Agnone, the TE from delaware ?

is he as good as Patrick was ?

DJ or Smoak want to weigh in ??

looks like a big kid 6 6" 250 lbs

took over as starter for ben patrick.. pretty productive.. receiver type ? anyone got anything else ??

NCskinsfanatic
04-27-2009, 01:20 PM
Little tidbit on the daniels signing...

http://www.columbiatribune.com/weblogs/behind-the-stripes/2009/apr/26/daniel-picks-skins-over-hometown-cowboys/


Daniel kept in touch with Redskins quarterbacks coach Chris Meidt throughout the day and also talked to Washington Head Coach Jim Zorn a couple times as the draft continued. Daniel worked extensively with Meidt during the NFL scouting combine back in February. On Sunday, the Redskins told him the team plans to carry three, maybe four, quarterbacks this season and that he has a good chance to make the roster.

"He told me, 'You can make a difference here,' " Daniel said of Zorn. "I don’t take that lightly, especially coming from the head coach."

shally
04-27-2009, 01:38 PM
Little tidbit on the daniels signing...

http://www.columbiatribune.com/weblogs/behind-the-stripes/2009/apr/26/daniel-picks-skins-over-hometown-cowboys/

what ? are we preparing the team for Chucky ? who else besides him would even think of carrying 4 qb's ??

shally
04-27-2009, 02:01 PM
another candidate for the legion of awesome

googled john halman. WR . he has a 10 minute highlight clip that is really impressive. playing at a low level of competition (concordia..division ??)
the guy is a man among boys. simply unstoppable

it should be fun to see what he can do against better competion.
6 3".. long arms and legs..runs away from coverage..

VegasSkinsFan
04-27-2009, 03:48 PM
Does anyone know if the MD center can also play guard?? We really need a backup C and would hate to see hiim go on the PS and get picked off like crummey last year. At least if he can play guard he might stick.

shally
04-27-2009, 04:06 PM
Does anyone know if the MD center can also play guard?? We really need a backup C and would hate to see hiim go on the PS and get picked off like crummey last year. At least if he can play guard he might stick.

i think we get a reserve center one way or the other.. kendall was the reserve last year.. this year, without Pete, we have no true reserve center.
jansen simply isnt a realistic possibility..

so i think that if williams shows something, he could stick.. geisinger isnt coming back either.. clark might have played center in college, but he isnt realistic either.

by the way, i believe the bengals drafted a center, Luigs, so crummey could be the odd man out this year as well

VegasSkinsFan
04-27-2009, 04:13 PM
i think we get a reserve center one way or the other.. kendall was the reserve last year.. this year, without Pete, we have no true reserve center.
jansen simply isnt a realistic possibility..

so i think that if williams shows something, he could stick.. geisinger isnt coming back either.. clark might have played center in college, but he isnt realistic either.

by the way, i believe the bengals drafted a center, Luigs, so crummey could be the odd man out this year as well

What killed Geisinger was the move to T and trying to block suggs. His natural position is C. But he is gone, but could be called back anytime im sure. Clark mentioned in his interview about playing some tackle this year. If Crummey gets dropped, it couldnt hurt to bring him him...might as well go all UMD on the line. I would rather not bring kendall back and take a shcance and let these young guys develop....as long as the qb wont get killed :)

shally
04-27-2009, 04:15 PM
What killed Geisinger was the move to T and trying to block suggs. His natural position is C. But he is gone, but could be called back anytime im sure. Clark mentioned in his interview about playing some tackle this year. If Crummey gets dropped, it couldnt hurt to bring him him...might as well go all UMD on the line. I would rather not bring kendall back and take a shcance and let these young guys develop....as long as the qb wont get killed :)

i am excited about Williams.. very heady player.. could surprise a lot of people

VegasSkinsFan
04-27-2009, 04:19 PM
i am excited about Williams.. very heady player.. could surprise a lot of people

Thats good to hear. With Mike Williams, i say keep him aroud 400 pounds...let him lineup on all four - sideways....make de's really have to swoop around hiim haha

skinsfan36
04-27-2009, 10:19 PM
Robbie Agnone TE Delaware-possibly makes the practice squad,really dont know much about him

Scott Burley OL Maryland-may make the practice squad

Chase Daniel QB Missouri-i think he is a lock for atleast the practice squad

Antonio Dixon DT Miami (FL)-very quick feet,but not fast(lol yeah doesnt make much sense huh )

Doug Dutch CB Michigan-camp fodder

Devin Frischknecht TE Washington State-hard worker on an absolute awful team

Brigham Harwell DT UCLA-may surprise like horton or may be another justin hickman

John Halman WR Concordia-very productive at a small school

Lendy Holmes S Oklahoma-dont see this guy even making it past the weekend

Robbie Palmer LB Arizona-productive could be a sleeper.think he has shot a practice squad

Derek Walker DE Illinois-this guys scouting report makes me think he may make the team seems like another daniels/wynn

Edwin Williams C Maryland -think he has the best shot at the roster,was very surprised he wasnt drafted by us

Jaison Williams WR Oregon-had a pretty bad senior year but a good soph/jr yr

shally
04-27-2009, 10:25 PM
Robbie Agnone TE Delaware-possibly makes the practice squad,really dont know much about him

Scott Burley OL Maryland-may make the practice squad

Chase Daniel QB Missouri-i think he is a lock for atleast the practice squad

Antonio Dixon DT Miami (FL)-very quick feet,but not fast(lol yeah doesnt make much sense huh )

Doug Dutch CB Michigan-camp fodder

Devin Frischknecht TE Washington State-hard worker on an absolute awful team

Brigham Harwell DT UCLA-may surprise like horton or may be another justin hickman

John Halman WR Concordia-very productive at a small school

Lendy Holmes S Oklahoma-dont see this guy even making it past the weekend

Robbie Palmer LB Arizona-productive could be a sleeper.think he has shot a practice squad

Derek Walker DE Illinois-this guys scouting report makes me think he may make the team seems like another daniels/wynn

Edwin Williams C Maryland -think he has the best shot at the roster,was very surprised he wasnt drafted by us

Jaison Williams WR Oregon-had a pretty bad senior year but a good soph/jr yr

williams production fell off as soon as Dixon left..

palmer sounds like another former wildcat lb---- a pierce...

DannySnyder
04-28-2009, 06:40 AM
any idea why we picked up 2 more Tightends? Are they big enough to convert into linemen?

shally
04-28-2009, 08:47 AM
any idea why we picked up 2 more Tightends? Are they big enough to convert into linemen?

the secret hand of joe gibbs still at work ???

BurgundyNGold
04-28-2009, 08:58 AM
the secret hand of joe gibbs still at wrok ???
So, you think this was a Joe Gibbs hand job?

oldskinfan
04-28-2009, 09:02 AM
So, you think this was a Joe Gibbs hand job?

:blah:
Ugh! You just made me puke my breakfast with that imagery (lol)

BurgundyNGold
04-28-2009, 09:13 AM
:blah:
Ugh! You just made me puke my breakfast with that imagery (lol)
LMAO! Sorry, OSF! :)

shally
04-28-2009, 09:18 AM
So, you think this was a Joe Gibbs hand job?

the ghost- of- joe gibbs- draft -past showed up to Vinny in a dream and whispered....."go get another tight end,....... or ttwwwooooooooooo"

and in a cold sweat, that is exactly what he did...

LATrueRedskin
04-28-2009, 11:09 AM
I'm very excited about Edwin Williams. Dude is a solid center for a pro-style college offense. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he makes the 52-man roster.

shally
04-28-2009, 11:37 AM
I'm very excited about Edwin Williams. Dude is a solid center for a pro-style college offense. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he makes the 52-man roster.


he should.. we need Rabach's replacement within the next 2 years.

BurgundyNGold
04-28-2009, 12:32 PM
I'm very excited about Edwin Williams. Dude is a solid center for a pro-style college offense. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he makes the 52-man roster.
He had better. If he only makes the PS, you can expect him to go the way of Crummey.

shally
04-28-2009, 12:37 PM
He had better. If he only makes the PS, you can expect him to go the way of Crummey.

crummey is now #3 onthe depth chart after they drafted Luigs.. he might be available once again..

lets us hope that williams can stick on the roster. we need a real back up center, not someone pretending he can recall how he did it in high school

VegasSkinsFan
04-28-2009, 12:50 PM
Call me crazy, but i actually have hopes for a couple of these udfa guys.

shally
04-28-2009, 12:55 PM
Call me crazy, but i actually have hopes for a couple of these udfa guys.

they might be better than our 5-7 picks...easily so, perhaps

VegasSkinsFan
04-28-2009, 12:58 PM
they might be better than our 5-7 picks...easily so, perhaps

Yeah out of the 5th -7th round picks, i am thinking at best 1 roster and 1 practice squad..but will admit that the roster guy will be a reach. I think we might get 2 or 3 roster guys from udfa and maybe 4-5 guys for the ps. Hoping that also see something good from aldridge/dorsey. Even though we say it every year...i will be the first post draft...some of the 2008 roster guys might be in trouble hahah.

VegasSkinsFan
04-29-2009, 05:23 PM
Not sure if this goes here..and havent seen it posted....we are bringing in Joe Ganz QB from Nebraska for a tryout. Also noticed that the panthers signed Geisenger and Marcus Monk...isnt he Art's son? For Geisenger...carolina is a good spot, magazu is a decent line coach.

shally
04-29-2009, 07:20 PM
Not sure if this goes here..and havent seen it posted....we are bringing in Joe Ganz QB from Nebraska for a tryout. Also noticed that the panthers signed Geisenger and Marcus Monk...isnt he Art's son? For Geisenger...carolina is a good spot, magazu is a decent line coach.

no, i dont believe that marcus is art's son

geiginger ? meh...

skinsfan36
04-29-2009, 10:04 PM
no, i dont believe that marcus is art's son

geiginger ? meh...

no relation. panthers signed geisinger to be camp fodder

shally
04-29-2009, 10:14 PM
no relation. panthers signed geisinger to be camp fodder

i would be very surprised if he makes their team-- but you never know..

skinsfan36
04-29-2009, 10:15 PM
i would be very surprised if he makes their team-- but you never know..

i give him a 3% chance to make the panthers if that

Moe
04-30-2009, 09:02 AM
i would be very surprised if he makes their team-- but you never know..

He might, they lost all of the o-line depth this year.

ChiefPowhatan17
04-30-2009, 09:29 AM
I still don't understand why they didn't try to sign Alex Boone the OT from OSU. I don't like OSU, but I do know who he is.

NCskinsfanatic
04-30-2009, 11:14 AM
I still don't understand why they didn't try to sign Alex Boone the OT from OSU. I don't like OSU, but I do know who he is.

Probably has something to do with his drinking problem...

Meatsnack
04-30-2009, 11:29 AM
I still don't understand why they didn't try to sign Alex Boone the OT from OSU. I don't like OSU, but I do know who he is.

And the fact that he is 6'7" and is too inflexible to play guard and too slow to play tackle. He is a big dude without the athleticism to play in the NFL as near as I can tell. You see him play and he just can't cope with speed and is, in Mayock-speak, a "heavy-legged waist-bender".

skinfan43
04-30-2009, 11:29 AM
Probably has something to do with his drinking problem...
How could he NOT be a drinker with that last name

NCskinsfanatic
04-30-2009, 01:02 PM
How could he NOT be a drinker with that last name

lol...I think that really hurt him though, Ive read he was more than just a drinker it was a problem that interfered with his ability to perform up to his ability....that and the obvious points that meatsnack made.

Skaggsrules
05-03-2009, 03:28 PM
Skins offered a contract to defensive linemen J.D. Skolnitsky. Played for my JMU Dukes, was going to be our top NFL prospect next year, but he didn't check the label of an over-the-counter supplement, it had too high of a protein content, and he got suspended for this upcoming season. Hope he can impress someone and keep playing.