Did you see Jon Jansen on Redskins.com?

[PA Skins Girl]

Check out the 4/30 Nightly News. He looks like he's lost a ton of weight.

http://www.redskins.com/gen/index.jsp

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Check out the 4/30 Nightly News. He looks like he's lost a ton of weight.

http://www.redskins.com/gen/index.jsp
YOu're difinitely right... I just wonder if it's a good or a bad thing. He says he's in great shape, so let's see.

[JasonCampbell]

On RN he said he was 295.

[joethefan]

can he pass protect and run block....that's all I wanna know...

[Patrick]

I honestly believe he'll be the comeback player of the year for the Skins - baring injury of course. If he's 295 then he's been training hard - I just hope in order to get his speed back up he has not sacrifice too much strength.

[chrisbcbu]

I remember earlier in the offseason, he said he started training much earlier than he normally does for the season. So he is taking this season very seriously. Hopefully that translates to a very good season, but after last season i am still a skeptic of his.

[dj_stouty]

Jansen swears up and down that 2009 will be similar to the ones he had back in 2002, 2003, 2004...etc. The fact that he trimmed up is a good sign his head is in the right place.

I'm rooting for Jasen to do well; because even if he gets beat out for the starting gig I'd like a guy like him sitting the bench with a chip on his shoulder ready to perform when called upon.

[LATrueRedskin]

Jansen swears up and down that 2009 will be similar to the ones he had back in 2002, 2003, 2004...etc. The fact that he trimmed up is a good sign his head is in the right place.

I'm rooting for Jasen to do well; because even if he gets beat out for the starting gig I'd like a guy like him sitting the bench with a chip on his shoulder ready to perform when called upon.

I agree. I'm skeptical, but of course I'm rooting for Jansen to do well. He's a Redskin. I hope he remains healthy the entire year and has his best season ever. Our success as a team depends on him. No pressure, though. :)

[dj_stouty]

I agree. I'm skeptical, but of course I'm rooting for Jansen to do well. He's a Redskin. I hope he remains healthy the entire year and has his best season ever. Our success as a team depends on him. No pressure, though. :)

Well, he is also a team leader and he has the most seniority of any Redskin by a mile. While I hope Jansen gets back into form and performs consistantly each week, i do think his best days are behind him and that his contribution to the team will be in leadership and mentoring.

Hey...you never know if Buges is preparing him to be an O-line coach some day?

[firehawk157]

I hope Jansen does well. We have a bunch of maybes at RT. Maybe we are hedging our bets in the hopes that one of these three guys delivers?

[skins74]

Jansen does seem to be serious and he obviously wasn't just talking at the end the of last season. I hope he is the come back player of the year! I want a good reason to dust my Jansen jersey off.

[hogs86]

Jansen and Samuels both look fit. Some guys realize when you get a little older it is best to drop a few pounds. Michael Strahan lost 20 pounds the last three years he played and he said it made huge difference.

[JsMaViSd]

well he did say 09 will be a pro bowl year for him.

[saratogan]

On Comcast sports he said he was down 20-30- lbs and plans on adding about 10 back (muscle mass). He aslo said he will be the starter. I think he is out to prove something, that is good. I have always liked him. His injuries, serious ones, would have done anyone in. To come back and play the way he has shows his tenacity.

That said, training camp and pre-season is all about competition and fielding the best players. Time will tell which of the group - Jansen, Williams, or Heyer - will be with the starting group.

My thoughts are keep Heyer on left side to learn to be Samuels replacement (if Heyer is good), and let Williams (loose weight and regain technique) be RT backup.

[greatest2]

can he pass protect and run block....that's all I wanna know...

an offseason without a surgery, first in awhile, can really help the guy.

i don't put it past the guy to have a couple years left if he can go without injury, which is a big if. the guy has alot of heart, and if he can push himself and pick up some quickness in his feet by losing wieght, maybe he can be a starter for this year, or year 2.

im not betting on it, but i wouldn't be shocked.

[paulskinsfan]

On Comcast sports he said he was down 20-30- lbs and plans on adding about 10 back (muscle mass). He aslo said he will be the starter. I think he is out to prove something, that is good. I have always liked him. His injuries, serious ones, would have done anyone in. To come back and play the way he has shows his tenacity.

That said, training camp and pre-season is all about competition and fielding the best players. Time will tell which of the group - Jansen, Williams, or Heyer - will be with the starting group.

My thoughts are keep Heyer on left side to learn to be Samuels replacement (if Heyer is good), and let Williams (loose weight and regain technique) be RT backup.

The only thing Williams will be protecting next year is his spot in line at Golden Corral. The man never met a pizza topped with Krispy Kremes he didn't love. For God's sake man 410 lbs? Geez.

[bigcmr]

Let me get this strate? We have one T coming in at 295 and another at 410. I guess one extreme to another.

[The Skinsinator]

Is there any truth at all that he may play center some next season? The weight loss certainly makes the idea intriguing.

[Keino]

Is there any truth at all that he may play center some next season? The weight loss certainly makes the idea intriguing.

I think there is something to this, as I was just getting ready to post something similar in this thread after watching Zorn's interview from today. He's certainly Cerebral enough for the position. It's his agility that worries me. If he can make the transition our Pass Pro would be better up the middle and he's a mauler in the running game.

[redskin_rich]

What did Zorn say in today's interview?

I know Jansen has worked at the position, as an emergency Center and/or Long Snapper and I definitely think he could handle the latter but at his height, frame and not so low center of gravity, I would be concerned about him getting forklifted or flat out bowled over at the snap.

[firehawk157]

What did Zorn say in today's interview?

I know Jansen has worked at the position, as an emergency Center and/or Long Snapper and I definitely think he could handle the latter but at his height, frame and not so low center of gravity, I would be concerned about him getting forklifted or flat out bowled over at the snap.
Reminds me of the Todd Wade at guard experiment.

[smoak]

I've never hidden hidden how much I like & respect Jansen as one of the best Redskins in my lifetime. Becasue of injuries and sluggish performance, its hard to remember how he started dominating out of the gate as a rookie and we all used to whine that he never made a Pro Bowl.

Let go big #76!!!

[firehawk157]

I've never hidden hidden how much I like & respect Jansen as one of the best Redskins in my lifetime. Becasue of injuries and sluggish performance, its hard to remember how he started dominating out of the gate as a rookie and we all used to whine that he never made a Pro Bowl.

Let go big #76!!!
I hope he returns to dominance but we have to plan for the possibility he doesn't.

[Keino]

What did Zorn say in today's interview?

I know Jansen has worked at the position, as an emergency Center and/or Long Snapper and I definitely think he could handle the latter but at his height, frame and not so low center of gravity, I would be concerned about him getting forklifted or flat out bowled over at the snap.

Zorn said that Jansen, in addition to competing at RT that he wa taking work at C. He said that his big frame is QB friendly, as that can stand more erect under Center. If he's agile enough, then being pancaked shouldn't be a concern, especially against 4-3 alignments. But I share your concern that opposing tackles will just attack his Snap Hand and eat him up all day because he is not agile enough to snap and then get his pad level low enough.

[redskin_rich]

Zorn said that Jansen, in addition to competing at RT that he wa taking work at C. He said that his big frame is QB friendly, as that can stand more erect under Center. If he's agile enough, then being pancaked shouldn't be a concern, especially against 4-3 alignments. But I share your concern that opposing tackles will just attack his Snap Hand and eat him up all day because he is not agile enough to snap and then get his pad level low enough.
Not to go on an off topic rant here but until Jason Campbell, I never heard of a QB having problems with taking a snap from a 6'4" Center (Rabach). It's a good thing JC didn't have to play with Bostic, he may have had to get down on his knees for a snap under Center. What, did Campbell have nothing but 6'6" Centers at Auburn or did he work primarily out of the Shotgun?

[Keino]

Not to go on an off topic rant here but until Jason Campbell, I never heard of a QB having problems with taking a snap from a 6'4" Center (Rabach). It's a good thing JC didn't have to play with Bostic, he may have had to get down on his knees for a snap under Center. What, did Campbell have nothing but 6'6" Centers at Auburn or did he work primarily out of the Shotgun?

I don't think he was saying it as if Rabach was problematic, only that with Jansen he doesn't have to squat as much.

There was one season at Auburn, I think they ran a lot of shotgun, but the year they went undefeated, I believe they ran some variation of the WCO. Akh, WarEagle, Redbama Skins and other bigtime NCAA/SEC fans would likely better be able to answer that than me though.

[redskin_rich]

I don't think he was saying it as if Rabach was problematic, only that with Jansen he doesn't have to squat as much.

There was one season at Auburn, I think they ran a lot of shotgun, but the year they went undefeated, I believe they ran some variation of the WCO. Akh, WarEagle, Redbama Skins and other bigtime NCAA/SEC fans would likely better be able to answer that than me though.
Yeah, I was referring to the weird stance JC used when Gibbs was here and the fact that Zorn worked with him to correct that last year. Hearing that Zorn made a reference, once again, to the QB standing more erect behind Center leads me to believe there is a bit of a problem there.

[Keino]

Yeah, I was referring to the weird stance JC used when Gibbs was here and the fact that Zorn worked with him to correct that last year. Hearing that Zorn made a reference, once again, to the QB standing more erect behind Center leads me to believe there is a bit of a problem there.

Watch the presser it's from yesterday. He made it more of a joke/luxury than indicating it was an issue. If you recall, the issue that he corrected was that Campbell squatted down too low for his liking under Center, and he felt like he wasn't getting the first step explosion in his drop backs. Zorn stood him up more, not made him squat more.

I think you are reading way too much into my comments because I am focusing on one sentence of a roughly 12 minute media gathering after practice.

I also think that Jansen is getting a look at C, because they want Fat boy to work out at RT and they need to improve at the C position.

[redskin_rich]

Watch the presser it's from yesterday. He made it more of a joke/luxury than indicating it was an issue. If you recall, the issue that he corrected was that Campbell squatted down too low for his liking under Center, and he felt like he wasn't getting the first step explosion in his drop backs. Zorn stood him up more, not made him squat more.

I think you are reading way too much into my comments because I am focusing on one sentence of a roughly 12 minute media gathering after practice.

I also think that Jansen is getting a look at C, because they want Fat boy to work out at RT and they need to improve at the C position.
I know Zorn worked to get JC to stand up higher behind Center. I also remember how JC practically sat on his right ankle the two years before. Not sure where you got me saying the opposite?

Perhaps I am reading too much into it, as I have not seen the video but you brought up the remark, so I thought it was something notable from the video.

Your last statement makes a lot of sense and I can definitely see that.

[Keino]

I know Zorn worked to get JC to stand up higher behind Center. I also remember how JC practically sat on his right ankle the two years before. Not sure where you got me saying the opposite?

Perhaps I am reading too much into it, as I have not seen the video but you brought up the remark, so I thought it was something notable from the video.

Your last statement makes a lot of sense and I can definitely see that.

Well when you asked the question about his Centers at Auburn, I thought you were assuming his squat wasn't there in College.

But watch the video, I am interested in your thoughts after you watch it. I think he thinks the problem was corrected and he had High praise for JC, but I realize that could be trying to instill confidence after the Cutler/Garcia fiasco.

[dj_stouty]

Not to go on an off topic rant here but until Jason Campbell, I never heard of a QB having problems with taking a snap from a 6'4" Center (Rabach). It's a good thing JC didn't have to play with Bostic, he may have had to get down on his knees for a snap under Center. What, did Campbell have nothing but 6'6" Centers at Auburn or did he work primarily out of the Shotgun?

Under Gibbs, there were times in which Campbell's backside was a mere 2-3 inches from touching the ground prior tothe snap. The oddest thing I've ever seen...

[shally]

Under Gibbs, there were times in which Campbell's backside was a mere 2-3 inches from touching the ground prior tothe snap. The oddest thing I've ever seen...

getting him prepared for his next career--- as a guard lol

[esmith1790]

So how many OL will be dressed each game 8 or 9?

CS,DD Rabach, Thomas, Williams

Then Jansen as back up Center, Heyer as the swing Tackle, CR as the back up guard?

[PA Skins Girl]

So how many OL will be dressed each game 8 or 9?

CS,DD Rabach, Thomas, Williams

Then Jansen as back up Center, Heyer as the swing Tackle, CR as the back up guard?+ Bridges probably. They usually keep 9 but 7-8 dress.