View Full Version : Positional Analysis: Week Five Skins/Eagles
PennSkinsFan
10-02-2003, 08:42 AM
Pick who has the edge in our second week of rating the positional advantage: This will no longer be an analysis of each position for position, but the top battles that we perceive.
QB: Patrick Ramsey (V) Donovan McNabb
RB: Staley/Westbrook/Buckhalter v. Canidate/Betts
WR: Coles/Gardner/McCants v. Lito Sheppard/Sheldon Brown/Mike Lewis/Clinton Hart (Egales Secondary)
Oline Battle: ND Kalu/Brandon Whiting/Corey Simon/Darwin Walker v. Samuels/Dockery/Moore/Thomas/Jansen
Tra Thomas/John Welbourn/Frank Haley/Jermane Mayberry/Jon Runyan (v) Wynn/Haley/Holsey/Smith
Spurrier and staff v. Reid and staff
Carlos Emmons/Mark Simoneau/Nate Wayne v. Arrington/Trotter/Armstead
James Thrash/Todd Pinkston/Freddie Mitchell v. Champ Bailey/Fred Smoot/Ifeanyi Ohalete/Matt Bowen.
K: John Hall/David Akers
Spence
10-02-2003, 08:56 AM
Here is how I see it...
QB: McNabb
TB: Canidate/Betts
WR[Skins]/DB[Eagles]: Coles/Gardner/McCants
DB[Skins]/WR[Eagles]: Bailey/Smoot/Ohalete/Bowen
OL[Skins]/DL[Eagles]: Samuels/Thomas/Moore/Dockery/Jansen
DL[Skins]/OL[Eagles]: Thomas/Welbourn/Haley/Mayberry/Runyan
LB: Arrington/Trotter/Armstead
PK: Akers
P: Johnson
Coaching: Reid and staff
PennSkinsFan
10-02-2003, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by Spence
Here is how I see it...
QB: McNabb
TB: Canidate/Betts
WR[Skins]/DB[Eagles]: Coles/Gardner/McCants
DB[Skins]/WR[Eagles]: Bailey/Smoot/Ohalete/Bowen
OL[Skins]/DL[Eagles]: Samuels/Thomas/Moore/Dockery/Jansen
DL[Skins]/OL[Eagles]: Thomas/Welbourn/Haley/Mayberry/Runyan
LB: Arrington/Trotter/Armstead
PK: Akers
P: Johnson
Coaching: Reid and staff
Disagree on...
QB: patrick Ramsey. He is simply playing much better football than Mcnabb right now. Not even close here.
RBs: Agree
WR: Agree
OLine: Disagree. Until our Oline can prove they can handle blitzes and cover Ram, I won't pick them. Its called, at leats for me, PROOF!
DL: Agree
LB: Agree
K: Agree
P: Agree
Coaching: Disagree. I think Reid has done a poor job and many Eagles fans will tell you the same. His play callign has been suspect. Meanwhile, Steve Spurrier contineu to show how much he has learned.
Patrick
10-02-2003, 12:09 PM
QB: Patrick Ramsey
RB: Canidate/Betts
WR: Coles/Gardner/McCants
Oline Battle:
ND Kalu/Brandon Whiting/Corey Simon/Darwin Walker
Tra Thomas/John Welbourn/Frank Haley/Jermane Mayberry/Jon Runyan
Spurrier and staff
Arrington/Trotter/Armstead
Champ Bailey/Fred Smoot/Ifeanyi Ohalete/Matt Bowen.
John Hall
dj_stouty
10-02-2003, 12:45 PM
Patrick Ramsey - If Ramsey can throw 3 TDs against a healthy Philly secondary, then I'm sure he can do just as well, if not better, against a beaten up Philly Secondary.
Staley/Westbrook/Buckhalter - Sorry...but our front four can't stop a Mack Truck...let alone an NFL Runningback. Philly's front four can.
Coles/Gardner/McCants - Beaten up Philly Secondary. Nuff said.
ND Kalu/Brandon Whiting/Corey Simon/Darwin Walker - Their front four is simply better than our front 5. Time and experience will make us better...but not prior to this Sunday.
Tra Thomas/John Welbourn/Frank Haley/Jermane Mayberry/Jon Runyan - They won't have to protect agasint pass rush...so they will expend all of their energy in supplying rush assistance.
Spurrier and staff - Reid has made many questionable calls this year...including the fake FG against Tampa Bay in week one. Spurrier has gotten a knack for turning around games with better play calling after the 1/2. Gotta give the OBC the nod.
Arrington/Trotter/Armstead - Great speed from sideline to sideline. They should be able to keep up with McNabb.
Champ Bailey/Fred Smoot/Ifeanyi Ohalete/Matt Bowen - Our secondary is much talented than their WR corp. Simple as that.
K: David Akers - One of (if not the) best kickers in the game.
GR_Eagle
10-02-2003, 08:17 PM
QB: McNabb- HE will be fired up sunday after rushgate. I do think Ramsey has arrived as a good qb but Donovan has something to prove.
TB: even- seriously, both teams have good backs and I can't decide who has the better backs
WR[Skins]- No question here
DB[Skins]- The eagles would lose this matchup against most teams in the nfl.
OL[Skins]- The eagles d-line is beat up. The DT's are above average but the DE's haven't produced.
OL[Eagles]: Great o-line
LB: Arrington/Trotter/Armstead- One of the best lb corps in the nfl
PK: Akers- One of the best in the biz
P: Johnson-
Coaching: Reid and staff-
JoeDaSchmoe
10-02-2003, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by Spence
Here is how I see it...
QB: McNabb
TB: Canidate/Betts
WR[Skins]/DB[Eagles]: Coles/Gardner/McCants
DB[Skins]/WR[Eagles]: Bailey/Smoot/Ohalete/Bowen
OL[Skins]/DL[Eagles]: Samuels/Thomas/Moore/Dockery/Jansen
DL[Skins]/OL[Eagles]: Thomas/Welbourn/Haley/Mayberry/Runyan
LB: Arrington/Trotter/Armstead
PK: Akers
P: Johnson
Coaching: Reid and staff
Wouldn't change a thing.
Spearfeather
10-02-2003, 10:16 PM
QB - Right here, right now, at this point I have to say Ramsey.
He's not as proven, ( but he will be ). Mcnabb is more
mobile, but Ramsey has the better arm.
RB - Canidate, Betts and Cartwright
WR - Skins
K - Eagles
LB - Skins
DBs - When they're healthy Eagles are tough,....but they're not
( Champ does have a chipped bone, but it didn't seem to bo-
ther him last week )
Coaches - Even
resdog56
10-03-2003, 05:22 PM
Skins everywhere, accept O-line, but we are still a work in progress there. Soon, that will be a team strength, as well.
Redbeard
10-03-2003, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
Disagree on...
OLine: Disagree. Until our Oline can prove they can handle blitzes and cover Ram, I won't pick them. Its called, at leats for me, PROOF!
BINGO! That's the major discrepency I see.
Philly clearly has the better o-line. Better balance and stability. (even 3 pro-bowlers to our 1, folks)
Otherwise-
QB: Philly
WR: Wash
RB: Push
OL: Philly
DL: Push
LB: Wash
CB: Wash (on injuries, otherwise Vincent & Taylor are better combo than Bailey & Smoot)
SA: Wash (on injuries, otherwise Dawkins is elite)
ST: Eagles
Coaching: Eagles (coaches are judged by seasons not games)
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