rogers blames ownership..

[chris]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/12/carlos-rogers-says-redskins-blame-starts-with-the-ownership/

[shally]

is he blaming ownership for his hands also ???

[Keino]

This was in the Post before it hit PFT.

And of course he is correct. It starts with the owner.

[Bengal224ord]

I think Rogers is ready to jump ship anyway. I for one believe we can do better without him. I'm glad he did this, maybe Danny will see the light. Good luck Carlos and wait...don't start catching interceptions when you play against us.:moon1: No need to change anything.

Bengal224ord

[JasonCampbell]

This was in the Post before it hit PFT.

And of course he is correct. It starts with the owner.

Chris Russell, the 106.7 beat reporter, said this will probably be blown out of proportion and the tone of the conversation was based more on don't point fingers just at one guy, but everyone involved in the organization.

[shally]

I think Rogers is ready to jump ship anyway. I for one believe we can do better without him. I'm glad he did this, maybe Danny will see the light. Good luck Carlos and wait...don't start catching interceptions when you play against us.:moon1: No need to change anything.

Bengal224ord

i think he sees himself next in the line of players like pierce and clark who have done better elsewhere

[LATrueRedskin]

Chris Russell, the 106.7 beat reporter, said this will probably be blown out of proportion and the tone of the conversation was based more on don't point fingers just at one guy, but everyone involved in the organization.

That's how I see it. I'm not making much of this, and of course, Rogers is right.

[Keino]

Chris Russell, the 106.7 beat reporter, said this will probably be blown out of proportion and the tone of the conversation was based more on don't point fingers just at one guy, but everyone involved in the organization.

But if you are going to point them at one guy, Snyder is that guy.

[JasonCampbell]

But if you are going to point them at one guy, Snyder is that guy.

Of course...and I'm sure all the players think that, but I don't think that is exactly what Rogers was saying (although he may want to say it).

[Keino]

Full Quote:


Things ain't working, When things don't work, there comes about change. Maybe it's good. Maybe it's bad. I think, like I said, they say players panic. Coaches panic, too, when things happen.

It's the beginning of the season. We got a long way to go. We're got a lot of things we need to iron out. It's a lot of problems. It's from personnel to coaches to whatever it is. It's a lot of things we need to iron out. Until we address those issues and turn them around, we're going to be the same, going up and down.

It starts not only with the players and the coaches. It starts with the ownership. They bring everybody in, and they've got last say-so of everything. So that's where it starts, I guess.

[shally]

Full Quote:

he is either an idiot, or else he is intentionally writing his own ticket out of town by going public with that kind of comment

[Bengal224ord]

I have to say...Danny really wants to win. He could have been a penny pincher and we would likely have the same results. He doesn't quite no just how to do it, but I have to hope that once he learns...the bandwagon will be full. Everyone should ask themselves what would they do if they owned the Skins? I would hire a GM, actually try and bring back Charlie Casserly. Another choice for either GM or Coach would be Marty. I didn't believe in Marty until he changed his ways after going 0-5. That is what we need, someone who can see his faults, accept the blame and change. Danny...you acceptance of blame is the first step toward recovery. :smash:

Bengal224ord

[Keino]

he is either an idiot, or else he is intentionally writing his own ticket out of town by going public with that kind of comment

If it is the latter, I would say he is rather smart, wouldn't you? He is really saying what we all know to be true. The coaches panic and the owner sucks.

[shally]

I have to say...Danny really wants to win. He could have been a penny pincher and we would likely have the same results. He doesn't quite no just how to do it, but I have to hope that once he learns...the bandwagon will be full. Everyone should ask themselves what would they do if they owned the Skins? I would hire a GM, actually try and bring back Charlie Casserly. Another choice for either GM or Coach would be Marty. I didn't believe in Marty until he changed his ways after going 0-5. That is what we need, someone who can see his faults, accept the blame and change. Danny...you acceptance of blame is the first step toward recovery. :smash:

Bengal224ord

i used to think that way.. but no more.. snyder wants to maximize profits first, last and always..

then he wants to win, but only on HIS terms..

[Bengal224ord]

i think he sees himself next in the line of players like pierce and clark who have done better elsewhere

I agree...the problem is he can't catch and does not know it. We do a bad job of keeping our young talent, but as a DB, when the ball hits him in between the 2 and the 2 he should catch it. Worse case catch it and fall down. Until he learns to catch he is doomed.

[LATrueRedskin]

If it is the latter, I would say he is rather smart, wouldn't you? He is really saying what we all know to be true. The coaches panic and the owner sucks.

I'm sure it's the latter. I'd be shocked if Carlos is here next year. It's a shame, I think he's a solid cornerback despite his unbelievable inability to catch a football.

[shally]

I agree...the problem is he can't catch and does not know it. We do a bad job of keeping our young talent, but as a DB, when the ball hits him in between the 2 and the 2 he should catch it. Worse case catch it and fall down. Until he learns to catch he is doomed.

he isnt doomed, because he can tackle and can run with a lot of receivers..he is like a RB who fumbles too much..

maybe his next position coach can figure out how to improve his hands ? that is really all that is missing .. if you put Hall's hands with the rest of his abilities, you would have a top tier corner

[lorimike]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/12/carlos-rogers-says-redskins-blame-starts-with-the-ownership/<<

He just punched his ticket out of town. Just wondering if he has any blame for himself considering all the interceptions he has dropped over the years.

[akhhorus]

I'm guessing he'll be forced to play QB for a quarter during a game against a tough pass rushing team for speaking his mind lol

[CNYSkinFan]

Nice to know you Carlos....Snyderratto does not accept disloyalty

[redskin_rich]

I'm glad somebody on the team will say it.

[shally]

I'm guessing he'll be forced to play QB for a quarter during a game against a tough pass rushing team for speaking his mind lol

linebacker.. another conversion, like orakpo...

[joethefan]

Yea but If I were the owner, I would say "Hey Los, less pointing and more catching"....

Carlos may be right, right out of a new deal. If I were him, I would shut up and just play.

[smoak]

But if you are going to point them at one guy, Snyder is that guy.

Yeah, I'm of the mind that all problems DO stem from one person (Snyder). With a real football mind running the team I can name about 15-20 significant things that are different. Not that anyone will be 100% on drafts and free agency, but we won't blunder our way through offseason after offseason.

[BurgundyNGold]

i think he sees himself next in the line of players like pierce and clark who have done better elsewhere
Except they actually did well here before leaving. ;)

[BurgundyNGold]

Yeah, I'm of the mind that all problems DO stem from one person (Snyder). With a real football mind running the team I can name about 15-20 significant things that are different. Not that anyone will be 100% on drafts and free agency, but we won't blunder our way through offseason after offseason.
Agreed. I can be satisfied with a football mind making decisions -- 100% of which I might not agree with. But even if I don't agree with them, at least I'll see what that mind is trying to do. The current situation is a shotgun approach with little or not football-related rhyme or reason.

[Red Bear]

im glad rogers had the balls to call out ownership. but we should go ahead and trade him to a corner needy team before the deadline hits, maybe we could recoup a 3rd rd pick in the next draft or an olineman who can play. i wouldnt advocate trading him if we had a good team, but the season is already going in the tank, whats it matter if the defense gets a little worse now too

[NamVet4]

The signs of the apocalypse appear! Why not have a player call out the owner in the media? Most of us do!
I don't care if Carlos Rogers stays or go, just learn how to catch the damn ball!

[shally]

Except they actually did well here before leaving. ;)

i think if he was used better, he would play better overall

[BurgundyNGold]

i think if he was used better, he would play better overall
As what, strong safety lol? Dude has no hands and even less brains. He's very, very good in run support. His pass coverage skills are adequate as a 2nd or 3rd corner. But he thinks he's an elite talent!

I didn't like the Rogers pick when we made it, he's done nothing to justify that pick and I'll be pleased when he leaves.

[shally]

As what, strong safety lol? Dude has no hands and even less brains. He's very, very good in run support. His pass coverage skills are adequate as a 2nd or 3rd corner. But he thinks he's an elite talent!

I didn't like the Rogers pick when we made it, he's done nothing to justify that pick and I'll be pleased when he leaves.

totally agree about that.

what i meant was that he is far better banging heads with the receiver at the line, than trying to catch up with someone after playing off them by 15 yards..

probably would make a better strong safety...

[NamVet4]

As what, strong safety lol? Dude has no hands and even less brains. He's very, very good in run support. His pass coverage skills are adequate as a 2nd or 3rd corner. But he thinks he's an elite talent!

I didn't like the Rogers pick when we made it, he's done nothing to justify that pick and I'll be pleased when he leaves.

totally agree about that.

what i meant was that he is far better banging heads with the receiver at the line, than trying to catch up with someone after playing off them by 15 yards..

probably would make a better strong safety...

It is absolutely amazing that the posters here have the intelligence to see this and yet it defies common sense that the DC of the Team hasn't got an "F"ing clue! One more indictment of Coach Blache!

[Skins-R-Us]

What's the worst that can happen... he get's picked up by a normally run team. About the only way it would get worse is if he left and got picked up by the Raiders and that is only marginally worse at best. Other than that he pretty much improves his situation. Not a bad play.

[hail2skins]

I believe he was referring to the entire organization and basically he said it starts at the top.