Skins Sign OT Levi Jones & RB Quinton Ganther. Cut Mason/Alridge [Archive]

LadyNRedskinsfan

10-20-2009, 03:19 PM

Looking for a link now, but this was posted on Twitter by Gary Fitzgerald of Redskins.com.

RedskinsDotCom: Breaking News: Redskins have signed veteran OT Levi Jones and RB Quinton Ganther. Released RBs Anthony Alridge and Marcus Mason.

dj_stouty

10-20-2009, 03:20 PM

The LOA loses two members at the same time? NOOOOOoooooo!

akhhorus

10-20-2009, 03:22 PM

Why did that take...how many weeks has it been since training camp started?

shally

10-20-2009, 03:23 PM

dont know whether ganther has anything to offer
but
neither mason nor alridge had anything to offer at this point

if healthy, Jones represents a big step up from both heyer and williams

fent

10-20-2009, 03:23 PM

i still don't believe it...

shally

10-20-2009, 03:26 PM

i still don't believe it...

what is today's date ?? it aint halloween yet...

CarMike

10-20-2009, 03:26 PM

Yeah, 980 just reported it as well. It's true.

Sorry Lady. :)

shally

10-20-2009, 03:27 PM

Why did that take...how many weeks has it been since training camp started?

Vinny is feeling the "soft tickle" of the executioner's blade on the back of his neck perhaps..??

fent

10-20-2009, 03:27 PM

some background on Ganther if you're like me and have never heard of him.

http://www.titansonline.com/team/roster/quinton-ganther/6e26fd3a-5fe8-4f0c-b0ae-21ee264c6538/

shally

10-20-2009, 03:27 PM

980 just reported that we signed Levi Jones and cut Mason/Alridge.

you think maybe they could report that Vinny was fired also??

fent

10-20-2009, 03:28 PM

what is today's date ?? it aint halloween yet...

not a clue, but this should be interesting. i hope he's ready to go on Monday night.

RicFlairOne

10-20-2009, 03:29 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/20/redskins-pick-up-levi-jones/

Lions passed on Jones so he must be out of shape ..........

LadyNRedskinsfan

10-20-2009, 03:29 PM

Yeah, 980 just reported it as well. It's true.

Sorry Lady. :)

Thanks for the edit Mike. I was so excited about the signing of Jones that I failed to mention the cutting of Mason and Alridge, lol.

shally

10-20-2009, 03:29 PM

some background on Ganther if you're like me and have never heard of him.

http://www.titansonline.com/team/roster/quinton-ganther/6e26fd3a-5fe8-4f0c-b0ae-21ee264c6538/

for some reason, i thought he was ex-Maryland and had been working out with the redskins for the past 2 weeks ?

i must be thinking of someone else..

shally

10-20-2009, 03:30 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/20/redskins-pick-up-levi-jones/

Lions passed on Jones so he must be out of shape ..........

the do have jon jansen, you know...:)

dj_stouty

10-20-2009, 03:31 PM

So....does this guy have to lose 150 lbs to be in playing shape also? lol

CarMike

10-20-2009, 03:33 PM

Thanks for the edit Mike. I was so excited about the signing of Jones that I failed to mention the cutting of Mason and Alridge, lol.

I didn't think I saw it the first time I read your post. Then I checked again and it was there. lmao

shally

10-20-2009, 03:34 PM

So....does this guy have to lose 150 lbs to be in playing shape also? lol

50...lol

wonder what we paid to get him, and whether we signed him for more than a year ?

LadyNRedskinsfan

10-20-2009, 03:34 PM

So....does this guy have to lose 150 lbs to be in playing shape also? lol
Lol! I dont even care. I'm just glad we're trying. :doh: lol

LadyNRedskinsfan

10-20-2009, 03:34 PM

I didn't think I saw it the first time I read your post. Then I checked again and it was there. lmao
I see you ignored the releases too. LOL

dj_stouty

10-20-2009, 03:35 PM

I see you ignored the releases too. LOL

LOL...lots of thread editing going on in the past 5 minutes. :)

Wild Bore

10-20-2009, 03:37 PM

the do have jon jansen, you know...:)At this point, Jansen would be a step up for us! LOL! In fact, let's give Ray Brown a call!

shally

10-20-2009, 03:38 PM

both those guys will be INACTIVE this week...lol

Moe

10-20-2009, 03:39 PM

Let's see if Ganther sees as much PT as Mason or Alridge did...IOW zzzzzzzzzzzz.

I heard on that radio that both the Packers and Lions passed on Levi due to his back. Maybe they can buy some time and heal him up, but I'm not holding my breath.

shally

10-20-2009, 03:39 PM

At this point, Jansen would be a step up for us! LOL! In fact, let's give Ray Brown a call!

why waste time with Brown, call Grimm and appoint him interim Head Coach/Starting Left Guard

Skaggsrules

10-20-2009, 03:39 PM

Pakulak was cut, Wynn brought back as well

CarMike

10-20-2009, 03:40 PM

LOL...lots of thread editing going on in the past 5 minutes. :)

I even deleted my first thread since Lady beat me. :)

shally

10-20-2009, 03:40 PM

akhhorus

10-20-2009, 03:40 PM

We are going to play him at OT right? Not SLB?

shally

10-20-2009, 03:41 PM

Pakulak was cut, Wynn brought back as well

the Human Yo-Yo

shally

10-20-2009, 03:41 PM

We are going to play him at OT right? Not SLB?

nah..Orakpo goes to RT, and Jones gets coached up by Blache to play SLB

LadyNRedskinsfan

10-20-2009, 03:42 PM

LOL...lots of thread editing going on in the past 5 minutes. :)
Wait....did you edit it? Either way.....thanks to whoever did it, lol.

SkinsfaninNJ

10-20-2009, 03:42 PM

So....does this guy have to lose 150 lbs to be in playing shape also? lol

Even if he does, there is no way he is worse than what we have now.

sinskin

10-20-2009, 03:43 PM

we probably signed him for 7 years...

and the Pack just signed Tauscher who has a bad back

Jesus..... how bad is Jones's back then?

shally

10-20-2009, 03:47 PM

Jesus..... how bad is Jones's back then?

dont have a clue.. but these are desperate times.. next up ? pete kendall...

sinskin

10-20-2009, 03:48 PM

Ok... we had to of given up something for this.... It is what we do!

Did we give Goodell a 2nd and new roof? Did we buy 25,000 copies of his wife's new book?

shally

10-20-2009, 03:50 PM

nah.. just Snyder trying to buy his way out of Purgatory

sinskin

10-20-2009, 03:51 PM

nah.. just Snyder trying to buy his way out of Purgatory

Firing Vinny would be an exellent start.

LadyNRedskinsfan

10-20-2009, 03:57 PM

dont have a clue.. but these are desperate times.. next up ? pete kendall...
Is he hurt or something? He should've been back a while ago. Gotta be better than Montgomery or Rinehart. :whoknows:

Bengal224ord

10-20-2009, 03:58 PM

Lol! I dont even care. I'm just glad we're trying. :doh: lol

I agree...at least we are trying. I'm just pisst that it took us to go 2-4 to start patching up the leaks. I think Vinny understands he also is on Danny's hot seat, not just Zorn.

Bengal224ord

dj_stouty

10-20-2009, 04:00 PM

I even deleted my first thread since Lady beat me. :)

Thats funny...since I attempted to merge the threads and give you a poke for double posting. ;) Then...POOF...it was gone. lol

Bengal224ord

10-20-2009, 04:00 PM

At this point, Jansen would be a step up for us! LOL! In fact, let's give Ray Brown a call!

You have to admit...Brown played well to be that old. Better than todays group. Let's give it up the old man Brown.:)

MONK_in_HOF

10-20-2009, 04:01 PM

Glad to see the Skins FO is always two steps ahead.

Dept_of_Defense

10-20-2009, 04:05 PM

I understand the Jones signing, but why cut 2 RB's for another RB?

CNYSkinFan

10-20-2009, 04:05 PM

Pakulak was cut, Wynn brought back as well
One step forward two steps back

HAWGZHEAD

10-20-2009, 04:05 PM

Annnnnnnnd Ladell Betts is still here. Is Wynn sleeping in a cot under the "jumbo"tron just in case he is called up week to week?

CNYSkinFan

10-20-2009, 04:08 PM

Glad to see the Skins FO is always two steps ahead.
and over a cliff

LATrueRedskin

10-20-2009, 04:11 PM

Annnnnnnnd Ladell Betts is still here. Is Wynn sleeping in a cot under the "jumbo"tron just in case he is called up week to week?

No, it's actually a hammock tied between the goal posts. :)

Keino

10-20-2009, 04:12 PM

The RB is from Kenny's HS in Richmond. Insert smartass joke here.

CNYSkinFan

10-20-2009, 04:12 PM

Oh and all the It's ok to sign Aldridge instead of an OL posters. I have a thread for you! (http://www.hailredskins.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=49870)

bigcmr

10-20-2009, 04:16 PM

Too little too late. Vinny still must get fired.

akhhorus

10-20-2009, 04:18 PM

Annnnnnnnd Ladell Betts is still here. Is Wynn sleeping in a cot under the "jumbo"tron just in case he is called up week to week?

He works at the Johnny Rocket's at Fedex Field on sundays with a spare uniform within arm's reach.

dj_stouty

10-20-2009, 04:22 PM

The RB is from Kenny's HS in Richmond. Insert smartass joke here.

Ganther is from Richmond, CA...not Richmond, VA...

Keino

10-20-2009, 04:43 PM

Ganther is from Richmond, CA...not Richmond, VA...

LOL. Kennedy HS too. How funny is that?

Biggie

10-20-2009, 05:24 PM

This is a joke, right? The offensive line is fine.

CNYSkinFan

10-20-2009, 05:33 PM

This is a joke, right? The offensive line is fine.
we make good picks here

SpicyMcHaggis

10-20-2009, 05:49 PM

we make good picks here

Vinny is not a retard.

Brokenstriker

10-20-2009, 07:10 PM

only the Redskins could do something thing they probably should do but still leave you with a bad taste in your mouth at the same time ...

what do you supposed happened ... did Vinnie finally come out of a coma ... finally stop sniffing glue ... for the love of Pete ... its like Germany suing for peace on a nice sunny day in the summer of 1946

Brokenstriker

10-20-2009, 07:11 PM

the FO makes tactical decisions slower than Jason Campbell ... no wonder they don't see any problem with his "pace" on the field

Brokenstriker

10-20-2009, 07:15 PM

do you hear that?

off in the distance ...

barely audible ...

chase daniel ... chase daniel ... chase daniel ...

skinsfan36

10-20-2009, 07:37 PM

finally!!! should of signed him a week after he was cut.

mason burned his bridges by the way.
from his twitter-
"To the Skins the small things are major"
"Maybe I am the reason they are 2-4. Now that i'm gone, they might beat teams that have winning records, instead of giving teams their 1st win every other week."
"I'm sorry I could not b the hometown hero,Byron Westbrook is still a hometown hero.I want them to show him the same love."

ok so that is all pretty true but you arent doing yourself any favors acting like that.

GenMgr

10-20-2009, 07:47 PM

do you hear that?

off in the distance ...

barely audible ...

chase daniel ... chase daniel ... chase daniel ...

He's back with the Saints -- 3rd QB

CNYSkinFan

10-20-2009, 08:08 PM

Brokenstriker

10-20-2009, 08:14 PM

He's back with the Saints -- 3rd QB

oh ... well maybe it was just the 'fridge's evaporator motor ... bad bearings

Brokenstriker

10-20-2009, 08:15 PM

he has been cut twice...or three times by us....something like that. Too bad for the guy but we need OL help, don't understand what guenther gives us that Mason did not

my guess is there gonna tell us he's a promising 3rd down back with pass catching abilities ... as well as a special teams performer

NCskinsfanatic

10-20-2009, 08:42 PM

Is he hurt or something? He should've been back a while ago. Gotta be better than Montgomery or Rinehart. :whoknows:

Yeah we could use Pete imo, he can back up at C and G, not sure if he's played the right side much but he'd still offer more than Will or Rhino.

saviour

10-20-2009, 09:07 PM

One has to think that if Levi pans out then Heyer (Not Mike Williams) will be sent to the bench.

Heyer has been downright terrible all season and didnt play better than Williams in the past 2 weeks. Since neither is going to keep the QB upright, you might as well take the one who can run block. Its quite obvious that Zorn does not run to any side that Heyer is playing on.

silverspring

10-20-2009, 09:17 PM

You got to be @#$@# kidding me. They wait until we have basically ended our season already to sign Levi Jones. Lets try being proactive instead of reactive.

BIGREDSKINSFAN1963

10-21-2009, 06:01 AM

is wynn still on the team?i would cut him before anybody!why the skins resigned aldridge and mason are beyond me?

smoak

10-21-2009, 06:13 AM

the do have jon jansen, you know...:)

Which I said from day 1 it was a mistake to release him for Heyer.

Hr fan

10-21-2009, 06:48 AM

Having read the above posts above it is clear that these signings will not change the apathetic anger much. Only firing vinnie will start to appease the fan base at this point. But as with Jones, snyder will wait until after the season so whomever will not have a chance to evaluate personnel or have in place a scouting staff that has focused on the draft. This just keeps getting worse.

BurgundyNGold

10-21-2009, 06:50 AM

The LOA gains two members at the same time? NOOOOOoooooo!
Fixed for you lol.

NamVet4

10-21-2009, 07:51 AM

These moves are the desperate mental masturbation of an incompetent vice president of operations. These moves make NO Sense! How much more of this insane butchering of the franchise will the fan base tolerate?
We have a castrated "head coach" whose carcass is hanging on the edge of the grave. We have an apathetic defensive coordinator. We are burdened with the ego-maniacal owner who deludes himself into thinking he can be the savior of a once proud NFL team. Sad ~

I will watch every week, if only to be witness to the historical demise of a once proud NFL Team.

(At least a few years back, this message board was filled with threads and posts about each weeks game... now it is immersed in the frustration, impotence and sorrow of the fan base.)

BurgundyNGold

10-21-2009, 08:41 AM

hockeygoalie29

10-21-2009, 09:07 AM

So where is he going to play? Left or right tackle? And if it's left, does Heyer slide back to right tackle or sit on the bench in favor of Mike Williams?

WinnpegSkinsFan

10-21-2009, 09:19 AM

So where is he going to play? Left or right tackle? And if it's left, does Heyer slide back to right tackle or sit on the bench in favor of Mike Williams?
The article said he was for depth. I don't think Jones starts right away but maybe a few games down the road.

BurgundyNGold

10-21-2009, 09:22 AM

CNYSkinFan

10-21-2009, 09:23 AM

For the record, I don't think the Jones signing is a bad one. It would have been better before the season began (obviously) but it's not a bad signing. Maybe he can be like DeAngelo Hall and contribute beyond this year.

Wishing Jones was like Hall is not a good thing IMO. Hall is the softest player I have ever seen.

BurgundyNGold

10-21-2009, 09:29 AM

Wishing Jones was like Hall is not a good thing IMO. Hall is the softest player I have ever seen.
Hall isn't worth $50M or whatever he's getting, but he's still a starting caliber CB. He's better than everyone except for maybe Rogers. When you count that he has 3 picks already in 6 games, which is half of Roger's career total of 6 picks in 56 games, it makes you wonder if he's not the best CB on the team.

If Levi Jones can come in at some point and start effectively at either OT position, I'll be pleased. If Samuels comes back next year, then OT is set. In any case, we'll be drafting OT in the first 2 rounds next year. Maybe in each of the first 2 rounds lol.

Moe

10-21-2009, 09:57 AM

So where is he going to play? Left or right tackle? And if it's left, does Heyer slide back to right tackle or sit on the bench in favor of Mike Williams?

The dude has a trick back, not sure if he'll play at all.

shally

10-21-2009, 10:20 AM

Hall isn't worth $50M or whatever he's getting, but he's still a starting caliber CB. He's better than everyone except for maybe Rogers. When you count that he has 3 picks already in 6 games, which is half of Roger's career total of 6 picks in 56 games, it makes you wonder if he's not the best CB on the team.

If Levi Jones can come in at some point and start effectively at either OT position, I'll be pleased. If Samuels comes back next year, then OT is set. In any case, we'll be drafting OT in the first 2 rounds next year. Maybe in each of the first 2 rounds lol.

Samuels MAY come back next year, or he may not.. but, his long term prognosis is POOR.. this is not going to go away and eventually will end his career.. the team needs to plan to get at least 1 more starting quality tackle, either through the draft or via free agency.
a quality reserve would also be a good thing to develop

Red Bear

10-21-2009, 11:53 AM

Its quite obvious that Zorn does not run to any side that Heyer is playing on.

portis career long 78 yard run was to heyers side, so thats a false statement. but i do agree that heyer is horrible at run blocking

You got to be @#$@# kidding me. They wait until we have basically ended our season already to sign Levi Jones. Lets try being proactive instead of reactive.

why the big fuss? even if we had signed levi jones in training camp, i dont think it would have made any major difference to the overall state of this team...

Biggie

10-21-2009, 01:44 PM

Samuels MAY come back next year, or he may not.. but, his long term prognosis is POOR.. this is not going to go away and eventually will end his career.. the team needs to plan to get at least 1 more starting quality tackle, either through the draft or via free agency.
a quality reserve would also be a good thing to develop
We're going to need new starters at both tackle spots and at RG next year, period.

SpicyMcHaggis

10-21-2009, 01:48 PM

The article said he was for depth. I don't think Jones starts right away but maybe a few games down the road.

Ah yes, when we will TRULY need him. Wonderful plan.

BurgundyNGold

10-21-2009, 01:50 PM

portis career long 78 yard run was to heyers side, so thats a false statement. but i do agree that heyer is horrible at run blocking
Luckily he makes up for his horrible run blocking with some horrendous pass blocking. They ought to nickname him "The Weatherman" considering how many dust devils get kicked up to his side of the line.

silverspring

10-21-2009, 03:19 PM

why the big fuss? even if we had signed levi jones in training camp, i dont think it would have made any major difference to the overall state of this team...

Just frustrating because i couldn't imagine how we didn't bolster our oline depth with actual talent before the season starts. I think it would have made a huge difference. It is just the perfect example of what is wrong with this team. You have to be more proactive about this kind of stuff.

shally

10-21-2009, 03:24 PM

Just frustrating because i couldn't imagine how we didn't bolster our oline depth with actual talent before the season starts. I think it would have made a huge difference. It is just the perfect example of what is wrong with this team. You have to be more proactive about this kind of stuff.

there were clearly guys out there who could have helped us (Jason Brown comes to mind) and we could have gone with Jones instead of Williams. Having a guy like Clark was a big time error. Heyer has not progressed at all. Dumping Jansen wasnt a bad idea, but replacing him with Heyer was...

in retrospect, we would have been better off keeping kendall and not signing dockery, who has done little to justify his return

maybe if Jones settles in, we can move M Williams to guard, where he might actually have a future ???

BurgundyNGold

10-21-2009, 03:26 PM

Just frustrating because i couldn't imagine how we didn't bolster our oline depth with actual talent before the season starts. I think it would have made a huge difference. It is just the perfect example of what is wrong with this team. You have to be more proactive about this kind of stuff.
That's only half of the hurricane with these clowns. They fail to plan, so they plan to fail.

To continue the metaphor, the other half that particular hurricane is the overkill and discoordinated overcompensation that follows the storm lol. In many ways, it's worse than the initial storm and makes cleanup impossible.

For reasons of sensitivity, I won't post the obvious analogy but I think folks might get the drift where my thoughts are headed with that one.

silverspring

10-21-2009, 03:27 PM

That's only half of the hurricane with these clowns. They fail to plan, so they plan to fail.

To continue the metaphor, the other half that particular hurricane is the overkill and discoordinated overcompensation that follows the storm surge lol. That's what leaves most for the wreckage and what makes cleanup impossible.

For reasons of sensitivity, I won't post the obvious analogy but I think folks might get the drift where my thoughts are headed with that one.

Exactly my thoughts.

silverspring

10-21-2009, 03:31 PM

there were clearly guys out there who could have helped us (Jason Brown comes to mind) and we could have gone with Jones instead of Williams. Having a guy like Clark was a big time error. Heyer has not progressed at all. Dumping Jansen wasnt a bad idea, but replacing him with Heyer was...

in retrospect, we would have been better off keeping kendall and not signing dockery, who has done little to justify his return

maybe if Jones settles in, we can move M Williams to guard, where he might actually have a future ???

Yeah we wasted roster spots on obviously talentless players like batsiste. We don't put enough value on good depth. Heyer should have always stayed at his natural position, LT. When you have a project player like heyer you shouldn't be moving him around twice a season. Let him master a position first. I am open to seeing williams at either RG or RT, he is still a big question mark in my mind but he is doing better than I expected.

akhhorus

10-21-2009, 03:35 PM

there were clearly guys out there who could have helped us (Jason Brown comes to mind) and we could have gone with Jones instead of Williams. Having a guy like Clark was a big time error. Heyer has not progressed at all. Dumping Jansen wasnt a bad idea, but replacing him with Heyer was...

in retrospect, we would have been better off keeping kendall and not signing dockery, who has done little to justify his return

maybe if Jones settles in, we can move M Williams to guard, where he might actually have a future ???

At his best at OG, Mike Williams is a low talent Dockery imo. Can't pass block, struggles with any blitzers(run or pass).

Even if Jones isn't washed up, he's not a long term answer, but they should have signed him back in June to avoid Heyer playing any significant time.

skinsfan36

10-22-2009, 09:10 AM

At his best at OG, Mike Williams is a low talent Dockery imo. Can't pass block, struggles with any blitzers(run or pass).

Even if Jones isn't washed up, he's not a long term answer, but they should have signed him back in June to avoid Heyer playing any significant time.

but jones could play next year until our tackle draft picks are ready. i think we draft an OT in th first two rounds(sign a rt in fa) or both rounds

can shanny find another clady,harris? lets hope

Biggie

10-22-2009, 09:18 AM

but jones could play next year until our tackle draft picks are ready. i think we draft an OT in th first two rounds(sign a rt in fa) or both rounds

can shanny find another clady,harris? lets hope
Until they're ready? This team sucks too hard to be holding back any good players it has.

Hr fan

10-22-2009, 09:58 AM

I will watch every week, if only to be witness to the historical demise of a once proud NFL Team.

(At least a few years back, this message board was filled with threads and posts about each weeks game... now it is immersed in the frustration, impotence and sorrow of the fan base.)

+1. We have given up on the "team" because this group of coaches and players have proven incapable of overcomming the complete inwsanity we call a fo. So why post about players and games? The outcomes are all too predictable.

Hr fan

10-22-2009, 10:00 AM

my guess is there gonna tell us he's a promising 3rd down back with pass catching abilities ... as well as a special teams performer

Isn't Portis mad at Sellers and isn't this "player" a FB among other things?

shally

10-22-2009, 10:22 AM

At his best at OG, Mike Williams is a low talent Dockery imo. Can't pass block, struggles with any blitzers(run or pass).

Even if Jones isn't washed up, he's not a long term answer, but they should have signed him back in June to avoid Heyer playing any significant time.

i think with another offseason, MWilliams could turn out to be a better LG than Dockery, who has TOTALLY underwhelmed me with his performance.
Kendall was, and is, a better player