Why the Defense can't generate turnovers

[oldskinfan]

Jason Reid of the Post analyzes the defense so far including the perpetual problems with lack of turnovers.

Link (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/at-the-bye-high-marks-for-the.html?wprss=redskinsinsider)

As a whole, the Redskins have the talent to be more aggressive and to cause more problems, but their defensive philosophy often has them stopping opponents rather than attacking them. In the team's final nine games, expect opponents' total yardage and points to remain low. But expect their number of turnovers to remain low as well.


Here's my own assessment:

IMHO, aside turnovers happen three ways:

Fumbles caused by aggressive hits or strips, especially when QBs or runners don't see it coming
Disguised schemes or tricks - either by a player or a whole unit - that cause QBs to make ill-advised throws that have a higher chance of being intercepted
Just plain dumb luck or a totally idiot play by a QB or runner


Our D-line, while better than last year, does not dominate enough to get many blind side or good hits on a QB - especially when we are rushing only 4; and Blache does not blitz enough to make up for that. So #1 goes out the door.

We don't do much trickery on D. Blache is a meat and potatoes guy who likes "bend but not break". If you don't try to get into the head of a QB and his blockers, and if you don't play much aggressive man where QBs can try to jump routes, without a killer front four you just won't force many errors. So #2 goes out the door.

That leaves #3. Occasionally a QB hold the ball too long and gets hit, or we strip the ball in a scrum (and recover it about half the time). Occasionally we see a total bonehead throw (which we don't catch if its Carlos Rogers). That leads to the handful of TO's we get.

As Akh says, guff on.

[BurgundyNGold]

That sounds like what about 20 posters up here have been saying for a couple of years now. ;)

We win! lmao

[akhhorus]

I think the primary reason is because Blache coaches the defense--and especially the back 7--to keep plays in front of them and not to attack routes/receivers(after they catch the ball). Interceptions happen from one of two incidents:
1-tipped balls
2-jumped routes
Once in a great awhile Qbs will just throw it to the wrong team but those might fall under #2. If the Dbs are told to keep the WR/TE in front of them, its very hard to jump any routes for an INT and tipped balls only end up as Ints if the tip goes behind the WR and to the DB.

This also hurts fumbles since the defensive players will usually be only behind the receivers/rbs if they fumble it.


That sounds like what about 20 posters up here have been saying for a couple of years now. ;)

We win! lmao

lmao.

[shally]

you simply cannot generate turnovers without pressure.. we dont try to do that systematically.. sometimes individual players will do that on their own, but there is little effort to overload one side of the line, or to go after the opposing qb's..

that is totally on Blache.. another DC could do so much more with the same group of players

[shally]

I think the primary reason is because Blache coaches the defense--and especially the back 7--to keep plays in front of them and not to attack routes/receivers(after they catch the ball). Interceptions happen from one of two incidents:
1-tipped balls
2-jumped routes
Once in a great awhile Qbs will just throw it to the wrong team but those might fall under #2. If the Dbs are told to keep the WR/TE in front of them, its very hard to jump any routes for an INT and tipped balls only end up as Ints if the tip goes behind the WR and to the DB.

This also hurts fumbles since the defensive players will usually be only behind the receivers/rbs if they fumble it.




lmao.

interceptions also happen as a result of QB's misreading where the defensive players are, or are going to.. but even more, from pressure which forces them to throw the ball too soon, or without getting an accurate read on the defense.

give most qb's enough time and they will pick out an open receiver and get the ball to him

[akhhorus]

interceptions also happen as a result of QB's misreading where the defensive players are, or are going to.. but even more, from pressure which forces them to throw the ball too soon, or without getting an accurate read on the defense.

give most qb's enough time and they will pick out an open receiver and get the ball to him

Absolutely. And when you can't get pressure and play a soft zone, its pitch and catch for good Qbs.

[shally]

Absolutely. And when you can't get pressure and play a soft zone, its pitch and catch for good Qbs.

well !

i am glad we could solve that problem so easily. now, if we can only induce Blache to take some kind of golden parachute....

[akhhorus]

well !

i am glad we could solve that problem so easily. now, if we can only induce Blache to take some kind of golden parachute....

Hopefully same kind of parachute that was used at the end of "Where Eagles Dare" lol

[nicefellow31]

That sounds like what about 20 posters up here have been saying for a couple of years now. ;)

We win! lmao

I think your estimate is too low. I was watching a college game this weekend and the analyst talke about the new blitz schemes that was popular in college and in the NFL where you basically overloaded one side of the field and blitz like crazy. He said it wasn't actually new, but very popular and I was thinking "not in D.C."

[skinsfan36]

if we didnt have blache we could be 5-2 even with our anemic offense. lol enough said.why is he still here. ok ill stop before i get into a huge rant

[LATrueRedskin]

I agree with earlier posters in that, contrary to popular belief, we are not an aggressive defense. We play to prevent the big play. Corners and safties play way off the ball. Mix that with the fact that nobody on defense can catch save for DeAngelo Hall, and it adds up to no turnovers.

[redskin_rich]

Yeah, this article is just rehashing what we have been saying for a while. We run a passive defense. Even when turnover chances happen, we rarely capitalize, because it's not what we are trying to do. The worst part is that our system is based on solid tackling, which we don't have either.
As with every aspect of our team, the scheme doesn't match our skill set. This is what happens when a lucky advertising multi-millionaire and a clueless porter make decisions for a football team.

[NamVet4]

As with every aspect of our team, the scheme doesn't match our skill set. This is what happens when a lucky advertising multi-millionaire and a clueless porter make decisions for a football team.

Well said redskin_rich ! In a nutshell this has been the root cause! Scheme doesn't match the skill set on defense or offense!
This is what happens when the idiot owner wants a "quick fix"!!!