Fent's first mock of the season

[fent]

because i've finally given up on the season...

http://draftacademy.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/fents-first-2010-mock/

redskins pick:

you think i'm going to give the answer away without making you click? ha!

[CarMike]

For the sake of our players eyes, I hope Philly stays clear from Brandon Spikes.

[akhhorus]

The only thing I quibble with is Spiller to Pittsburgh. I could see them draft a power back to team with Mendenhall(Parker is a UFA I believe).

[Sean36]

The only thing I quibble with is Spiller to Pittsburgh. I could see them draft a power back to team with Mendenhall(Parker is a UFA I believe).

Do u think we should look at Will P.? Clinton & Willie can share the rock.

[akhhorus]

Do u think we should look at Will P.? Clinton & Willie can share the rock.

Eh. Only on the cheap.

[Sean36]

Eh. Only on the cheap.

What do you feel about the draft?......We need a QB & RT since Levi Jones is playing good, and a guard.

[Sean36]

because i've finally given up on the season...

http://draftacademy.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/fents-first-2010-mock/

redskins pick:

you think i'm going to give the answer away without making you click? ha!

I love the pick...but do you think we go with Jason Campbell?

[akhhorus]

What do you feel about the draft?......We need a QB & RT since Levi Jones is playing good, and a guard.

Wait on that discussion for one of my draft threads.

[fent]

The only thing I quibble with is Spiller to Pittsburgh. I could see them draft a power back to team with Mendenhall(Parker is a UFA I believe).

I put Spiller in there just because he immediately steps in as the kick/punt returner and is the change of pace to Mendenhall. They could go either way there and don't really have any screaming needs elsewhere.

[fent]

I love the pick...but do you think we go with Jason Campbell?

i don't think Campbell is here under any circumstances next year. that writing's been on the wall for a while. best case scenario they go with a cheap vet to play the caretaker role and grab someone like Mallett or Pike in the 2nd round to groom. i also see there being a half-way decent chance that Locker falls into the top of the 2nd round.

[Lavar703]

i don't think Campbell is here under any circumstances next year. that writing's been on the wall for a while. best case scenario they go with a cheap vet to play the caretaker role and grab someone like Mallett or Pike in the 2nd round to groom. i also see there being a half-way decent chance that Locker falls into the top of the 2nd round.

I highly doubt Locker falls, especially after the combine. He will more then likely be the first QB off the board to St.Louis.

[Lavar703]

Im sorry but I just dont see any scenario where Detroit passes on Russell Okung. Gosder and Jeff are getting him killed right now, they will pick Okung and I fully expect us to pick a QB, more than likely Clausen or Bradford. Am I advocating picking a QB? It doesnt matter anymore, were so bad across the board that any bit of talent helps.

[fent]

Im sorry but I just dont see any scenario where Detroit passes on Russell Okung. Gosder and Jeff are getting him killed right now, they will pick Okung and I fully expect us to pick a QB, more than likely Clausen or Bradford. Am I advocating picking a QB? It doesnt matter anymore, were so bad across the board that any bit of talent helps.

Schwarz is a defensive guy, their defense is beyond awful, and there should be several decent OL options to choose from in free agency. They could go OT, but they also could have (should have?) taken Oher last year instead of Pettigrew.

[BurgundyNGold]

I can't argue too much with this mock. I don't see the Redskins picking 5th though. Not that they wouldn't earn the slot in a normal year, only that there will be a lot of other teams who suck more this year.

At 8 or 9 those clowns will probably pick Mays lol. Honestly, I'd be happy if they traded down (once or twice) to 20 or 24, picked up a few more picks, selected McCoy and selected an OL in the 2nd and 3rd. They're get at least a a 2nd and 3rd for moving down that far.

And anyone who selects Tebow on Day 1 deserves the radioactive case of disaster that ensues.

[fent]

I highly doubt Locker falls, especially after the combine. He will more then likely be the first QB off the board to St.Louis.

There's absolutely no way Locker is the first QB off the board, and if he is, that front office should be run out of town. The kid has a career completion percentage of 52.4% and even this year he's only at 56.9%. He also has a career TD:INT ratio of 32:25 in a weak conference. The only reason people have him rated so highly is because he upset USC on national TV and even in that game all he did was throw for 237 and no TDs. put that production next to Claussen and Bradford and there's just no comparison. you can mark this down now...taking Locker over one of those 2 will be the equivalent of the Niners taking Alex Smith over Rodgers.

[fent]

I can't argue too much with this mock. I don't see the Redskins picking 5th though. Not that they wouldn't earn the slot in a normal year, only that there will be a lot of other teams who suck more this year.

At 8 or 9 those clowns will probably pick Mays lol. Honestly, I'd be happy if they traded down (once or twice) to 20 or 24, picked up a few more picks, selected McCoy and selected an OL in the 2nd and 3rd. They're get at least a a 2nd and 3rd for moving down that far.

And anyone who selects Tebow on Day 1 deserves the radioactive case of disaster that ensues.

I just did the order in complete reverse order of the standings on NFL.com today. I really think we could pick anywhere between 3 and 12 given our complete ineptitude interspersed with an amazing ability to pull a game out of our butt every once in a while.

I don't want McCoy, especially with a first rounder. He has intangibles out the wazoo but the arm strength is lacking and his accuracy has been awful from the games I've seen this season.

Tebow is in there just because Jacksonville seems dead set on taking him in order to sell tickets.

[BurgundyNGold]

I just did the order in complete reverse order of the standings on NFL.com today. I really think we could pick anywhere between 3 and 12 given our complete ineptitude interspersed with an amazing ability to pull a game out of our butt every once in a while.
Agreed. At 3 we might have a shot at Bradford or a top flight OT. After that, we need to think about trading down and attempting to fill more holes.

I don't want McCoy, especially with a first rounder. He has intangibles out the wazoo but the arm strength is lacking and his accuracy has been awful from the games I've seen this season.
I wouldn't want him any earlier than 20. I see him like Aaron Rodgers in that he has the potential to develop into a pretty good QB or to be a bust. You don't use a top 20 pick on him.

Tebow is in there just because Jacksonville seems dead set on taking him in order to sell tickets.
To the detriment of their franchise lol. When they're pot committed to him and he sucks up the place, it'll only serve to hasten their departure from Jacksonville.

[Skaggsrules]

I don't think there's anyway Taylor Mays goes ahead of Eric Berry, maybe last season, but not now

[fent]

I don't think there's anyway Taylor Mays goes ahead of Eric Berry, maybe last season, but not now


Raise your hand if you had Heyward-Bey in the "first receiver off the board" pool last year.

[lorimike]

Raise your hand if you had Heyward-Bey in the "first receiver off the board" pool last year.

Not I. His college production for a buy that big and fast was not that great. We see this every year. Teams go "ga,ga" with some player's measurables. Mike Mamula and Matt jones come to mind. Look at the production the Texans are getting out of Brian Cushing. There is a guy that's a football player. I think the game film is a heck of alot more important that a 40 time.

[dj_stouty]

If the Skins lose out and Cleveland and/or the Rams pull out some miracles, I could see Weiss (er, I mean our next head coach) pulling the trigger on Clausen at #3/4. :)

[jaggedice]

If the Skins lose out and Cleveland and/or the Rams pull out some miracles, I could see Weiss (er, I mean our next head coach) pulling the trigger on Clausen at #3/4. :)

Blow my brains out now.

[dogfight6]

If the Skins lose out and Cleveland and/or the Rams pull out some miracles, I could see Weiss (er, I mean our next head coach) pulling the trigger on Clausen at #3/4. :) please tell me your kidding on both parts

[dj_stouty]

please tell me your kidding on both parts

I could easily see Weiss becoming our next head coach...and I've thought that for a while now. Drafting Clausen may be a stretch since we desparately need a an OT...but it isn't out of the realm of possiblity.

[Moe]

There's absolutely no way Locker is the first QB off the board, and if he is, that front office should be run out of town. The kid has a career completion percentage of 52.4% and even this year he's only at 56.9%. He also has a career TD:INT ratio of 32:25 in a weak conference. The only reason people have him rated so highly is because he upset USC on national TV and even in that game all he did was throw for 237 and no TDs. put that production next to Claussen and Bradford and there's just no comparison. you can mark this down now...taking Locker over one of those 2 will be the equivalent of the Niners taking Alex Smith over Rodgers.

I caught a few early minutes of the game last night between Western Michigan and Ball State and the announcers were really high on Tim Hiller, the QB for WMU. He's got the size and looking at his career numbers, he's apparently got some talent. Obviously playing at WMU tilts any evaluation of him, but just curious if any of you guys who pay a lot of attention to college football have any thoughts on him. It seems like he'd be a guy you could take in the mid rounds that could be a sleeper.

Career stats to date:
2005 WMU 98 150 65.3 1334 8.9 20 3 180.03
2007 WMU 267 421 63.4 3021 7.2 20 15 132.25
2008 WMU 339 522 64.9 3725 7.1 36 10 143.81
2009 WMU 309 514 60.1 3258 6.3 23 13 123.07

[BurgundyNGold]

I caught a few early minutes of the game last night between Western Michigan and Ball State and the announcers were really high on Tim Hiller, the QB for WMU. He's got the size and looking at his career numbers, he's apparently got some talent. Obviously playing at WMU tilts any evaluation of him, but just curious if any of you guys who pay a lot of attention to college football have any thoughts on him. It seems like he'd be a guy you could take in the mid rounds that could be a sleeper.

Career stats to date:
2005 WMU 98 150 65.3 1334 8.9 20 3 180.03
2007 WMU 267 421 63.4 3021 7.2 20 15 132.25
2008 WMU 339 522 64.9 3725 7.1 36 10 143.81
2009 WMU 309 514 60.1 3258 6.3 23 13 123.07
Guys like Hiller are why the baby Jesus made the 6th round.

[redcayman]

Not bad but I can't see Berry going that far down. I also think we will keep Campbell on the cheap next year.

[fent]

Not bad but I can't see Berry going that far down. I also think we will keep Campbell on the cheap next year.

First, he's a safety, so just going top 10 is a great position for him. Since the 2000 draft, only Landry, Mike Huff, Donte Whitner, Sean, and Roy Williams have been drafted in the top 10 from the S position and Huff and Whitner were both considered to be huge reaches when they were taken back to back. Second, there's no one at the top of the draft that just screams out they need a safety over another key position. You never know what a front office will do, but I really think Berry should be happy to go top 10 even though he's likely top 3 in talent in this draft.

[cal_junior]

I could easily see Weiss becoming our next head coach

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit

[fent]

There's absolutely no way Locker is the first QB off the board, and if he is, that front office should be run out of town. The kid has a career completion percentage of 52.4% and even this year he's only at 56.9%. He also has a career TD:INT ratio of 32:25 in a weak conference. The only reason people have him rated so highly is because he upset USC on national TV and even in that game all he did was throw for 237 and no TDs. put that production next to Claussen and Bradford and there's just no comparison. you can mark this down now...taking Locker over one of those 2 will be the equivalent of the Niners taking Alex Smith over Rodgers.

to follow up on this, there are but a handful of NFL scouts that think Tebow can play QB in the NFL. his completion percentage is 13.5 points higher than Locker's and his yard/attempt is 3 yards more than Locker's. those numbers aren't solely on account of the superior talent Timmy has around him.

[culpeper]

Id like to get a bigtime OT with the first and and either Locker or McCoy in the 2nd if they fall that far. If not, take another OL and get a QB in the 4th.

NO list (QB's):
-Clausen- Not as good as Brady Quinn IMO. Golden Tate makes him what he is. (We should get Tate if given the chance and ship Moss. Tate reminds me of Hines Ward)
-Pike- weaker armed derek Anderson IMO. True Freshman BACKUP came in and performed as well or better in that system.
-Tebow- we're loaded at TE already...

[Patrick]

1st Round: Offensive Tackle - Okung, William, or Campbell
2nd Round: Offensive Guard - Huston, Render, or Jerry
4th Round: Center - Austin
5th Round: QB or RB
7th Round: any position that will can contribute on ST.

[The Iceman]

1st Round: Offensive Tackle - Okung, William, or Campbell
2nd Round: Offensive Guard - Huston, Render, or Jerry
4th Round: Center - Austin
5th Round: QB or RB
7th Round: any position that will can contribute on ST.

Trade the 1st round 5th overall pick. Slide back about 4-7 spots and pick up a 2nd rounder.

Once the pick comes up... Pick 11 or so, trade down again to about 16-20 range. Picking up either another 2nd or a 3rd.

Then, we draft best available OT with first pick in the 1st round.
Round 2, first pick, best OG, or C.....Round 2 2nd pick, Keenum from Houston.
Round 3, RUNNING BACK.
Round 4, OT/OG... Need a versatile guy that can spot start if necessary.
Round 5, LB'er
Round 7, OT/OG

In free agency, either A. keep cambell, B. sign a guy like Matt Hasselbeck, Derek Anderson, Jake Delhomme, or Charlie Batch.

Sign a semi'young running back after releasing Portis.

Sign a Solid OLB/MLB'er.

Oh, and if we could trade a bunch of guys for picks that would be great too.

All this stuff is just a wishlist. I wish trading in the NFL was like it is on Madden, lol.

[akhhorus]

Sign a semi'young running back after releasing Portis.


No matter anyone's feelings on Portis(and yours are quite clear, and have been for years), the skins aren't going to eat 10-12 million to dump Portis. I doubt they would do that if there was no cap.

[Taylor21TheUndertaker]

The Oakland game will decide if we're top 5 or not.

[silverspring]

I would also suggest trading down if we have the 5th overall. But in reality I think we will be more like 9th. Even then I would consider trading down. We need volume.

[fent]

I would also suggest trading down if we have the 5th overall. But in reality I think we will be more like 9th. Even then I would consider trading down. We need volume.

9 will provide more opportunity to move down. the cost to get the 5 and then pay out the contract is exorbitant. trading down would be great in theory, but if the best we can do is get the "haul" the Browns got for Sanchez, then stand pat.