Spurrier's Gameplan

[SkinsKY]

Did he have one? It looked like there was no grand plan in his playcalling. I know the WR screen worked great the first time, but if it works right once, he runs it too often. I guess he doesn't believe in running to slow the pass rush down. It just seems like he is just calling plays on a whim right before each play. The Eagles secondary was ripe to explode our passing game, but despite all the dropped balls, we just didn't seem to put people in good places to make places. He also didn't help Ramsey establish a rhythm on the field which is important for a young QB.

[hail2skins]

Good points. Spurrier was really pissed after this game from what I'm hearing. Check out the Washington Post. They said they've never seen him like that before. Said he's frustrated with the players and they're probably frustrated with him. He said the Ramsey int was a bad call by him.

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally posted by hail2skins
Good points. Spurrier was really pissed after this game from what I'm hearing. Check out the Washington Post. They said they've never seen him like that before. Said he's frustrated with the players and they're probably frustrated with him. He said the Ramsey int was a bad call by him.

Yeah, but i take no pleasure in this because Spurrier is starting to sound like that coach that coached here int he 90's. Sorry. Bad Coaching. Were not executing. Bad play calling today. We need to do better. We just didn't execute.

I am sick of it. Thats all we hear in DC for the past decade :banghead:

What irks me even more is Spurrier copmments in regards to the penalties. He basically say they are so frustrating that he just doesn't know what to do. Say ther eis nothign he can do.

Mr. Spurrier, the fact is YOU and YOU alone are accountable. You are directing this team, this team is yours. ye sit may be hard to address it, yes it maybe difficult and take creativity, but to brush it off and say there is nothign I can do is just plain wrong.

I really worry about Spurrier's leadership and whether or not he has control of this team.

[Emmanouel8]

Let's get some perspective here,

What we have is a 2nd year coach working w/ a 'rookie' QB, and some new players on the offensive line. It's only 5 games into the season yet we expect them to operate together like they've been playing for years. We all felt in the offseason they'd need at least half of the season to get it together yet we're blasting them for being ahead of that schedule.

It seems Ramsey's audibling is one thing that would fix a lot of problems right now. Take that problem out and we're much better. I don't really blame Spurrier for sticking to his system. If he adjusts ANYTHING in his system it should be for Ramsey not those no-account lineman.

Lineman all over the league have to listen to hut hut and they go off on the freaking ball/snapcount. There's no complexity in that system, hut hut and go. Sure sometimes the snapcount is long but it's been that way for 5 weeks now, get used to it for your QB at least. I'm tired of everybody making excuses for Jansen/Samuels as if Spurrier is asking them to something complex like call plays. Randy Thomas is brand new and is outplaying everybody.

Spurrier is just frustrated as anybody. Lets not run him out of town yet. He called a game last week against Bellichek's defense to win and he made some great calls this week too. Going for it on 4th, kicking a field goal instead of going for it on 4th and long, then the onside kick, the TD, and the right call to get the 2 pt. Those were calls that got us w/n one overthrown pass away from going into OT.

BTW I liked his comments.

[Brokenstriker]

Considering the alternative, bashing his players in public for making boneheaded mental errors continually while making shitloads of money ... I think I prefer that he address that with them privately. It doesn't fix anything to give me insider details about what is bothering him. What I want is for the players to pull their heads out of their asses and stop giving the opposition such an underserved advantage in every single stinking game this season. Jansen and Samuals, are only a few of the SEASONED PROFESSIONALS who are not playing up to expectations. If its them then they need to fix it, and the coach needs to be able to talk to them and motivate them. They wouldn't repect him or what he has to say if he bashed them in public ... would you?

I'd hate to think it going to take serious hurt in the pocketbook to get players who I'm sure want nothing less than to win to stop making mental mistakes.

Arrington's late hit ... that was pretty slight to throw a flag on. Upshaw ... honestly I'd prefer to see a WHOLE lot more of Upshaw on the field. But Illegal proceedure penalties have got to stop. If the lineman can't hear then the coaching staff needs to come up with an alternative ... quick counts ... holding hands ... one mississippi, two mississippi ... hell I don't know but they are supposed to be the coaches they should come up with something ...

I seriously don't want to be out mowing my lawn in the third quarter any more this season ...

This really sucks!

[Emmanouel8]

Brokenstriker, I think the 'private' talks have been taking place for 2-3 weeks now. If supervisor/professor called me out in public I'd lose respect for him at 1st but at the same time be motivated to be much better and if I did get better I'd gain much more respect for him/her for doing it later.

[hail2skins]

I beg to differ. The Tuna would bash his players in public all the time. Do you think he got their attention? Do you think they respect him? I'm with PSF on this. Spurrier can't keep saying that he doesn't know what to do. You're the coach dammit. Yes, the players should be accountable to each other but Spurrier should make sure he holds them accountable.

[Emmanouel8]

Well just b/c Spurrier says he doesn't know what to do doesn't mean he doesn't or he's going to tell it to the media. I think Spurrier is one of those coaches right now who is at guard at what he says to the media.

[hail2skins]

Well, he's said it for a couple of weeks now and they still have the problem. I hope you're right.

[Emmanouel8]

I know but by his comments you can tell he's done different things to fix it and it hasn't worked. He's just going to have to come up w/ something better.

[RedskinRyan]

i dont think that it is spurrier's fault that the oline jumps when someone in the crowd sneezes. spurrier isnt the one jumping, so that really isnt his problem. the thing that is spurrier's fault is that he isnt working harder to correct it. make the whole oline stay in the same spot for like 15 minutes or something. do somehting to make it fun, like give 1000 to the person who can stay in a stance the longest while a qb is there calling huts and stuff.

[SkinsKY]

When penalties are a team wide problem, it's the coach's fault and he needs to deal with it. Spurrier's never been known as a disciplinarian even though he requires precision and discipline to run his offense. He needs to find some Marty in him and come down until those players get it. Tweak some things. We have a good ship here, but we're always taking on water and we will always sink against good teams. I think this could be a great year if we just focus a little more.

BTW that Runyan play faking getting hurt pissed me off that we could be taken advantage of like that. This isn't the playground where you always have to fight back. We're trying to win here.

[PennSkinsFan]

Bottom lien is this IS Spurrier's team, this is HIS players, this is HIS system. If players are not holdign themselves acoountable and correctign mistakes and erors then it REFLECT on Steve Spurrier. I am sold on the idea and have always been that a team reflects its coach.

[Emmanouel8]

Procedure penalties are consistently coming from Samuels/Jensen. Note Spurrier said to put Lenny F at TACKLE and MAYBE that will fix it. Sounds like he's tried but is left w/ the threat of benching them. Randy Thomas is in his 1st year and outplays everybody on the line. Is he getting any different coaching than the tackles?

[PennSkinsFan]

I agree Emm. Thomas is consistently playing well. No calls against him and he seems to be blocking well. Anyone notice a shot on him after a penalty? He looked pissed.

[Smiley]

I think the coach was simply disgusted with the players. I'm not sure you would have like what I had to say right after that game either. He'll figure it out. Personal Fouls = fines.

[Emmanouel8]

It seems like our recent players from winning teams bring in winning character from those places i.e. R.Thomas, Coles, Armstead, Trotter, etc and the ones we've brought up have Norv written all over them.

I don't want to blame Norv for everything (even though everything is his fault) but IMO based on post-game interviews losses are still personal for those guy's even in a Redskins uniforms and this under Spurrier's coaching?!

[BigCountry]

We didn't run cause we couldn't run. I think it would it be tough to force the run against good teams with Canidate and Betts. BTW guess who's leading the league in rushing yards.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by BigCountry
We didn't run cause we couldn't run. I think it would it be tough to force the run against good teams with Canidate and Betts. BTW guess who's leading the league in rushing yards.

Oh, you had to go there BC, LOL.

I think we had some nice runs yesterday and even if you don't get what you wanted, you're keeping the defense honest.

[AZ#1SkinsFan]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
Bottom lien is this IS Spurrier's team, this is HIS players, this is HIS system. If players are not holdign themselves acoountable and correctign mistakes and erors then it REFLECT on Steve Spurrier. I am sold on the idea and have always been that a team reflects its coach.

I AGREE 100%!!!!!

You think this team would be comitting 11 penalties per game if Joe Gibbs or Bill Parcels were coaching? HELL NO!! Every player on the team respected Gibbs and did what it took to correct the problems themselves, if they didn't Joe let them know about. Parcells chastises his players so much they are afraid for the lives of their families . . . theres no way the want to continue to make mistakes . . . Spurriers players laugh and joke minutes later in the locker room after a tough loss to a divisional opponent in a game that they, once again, gave away. Rediculous!! Where are the team leaders? Do they not respect Spurreir? Hmmmmm . . . . . . .

HE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING TO EARN HIS PLAYERS RESPECT!!!