Should Landry Be Benched?

[hail2skins]

The Redskins bench Rogers when he bit on a double move against Denver.

Should Landry be bench for falling for a double, not one, but twice? He bit on one with a 7 point lead with under 2 minutes left in the game.

[Keino]

Yes. Start Kareem Moore, who has better ball instincts and is more suited to play FS than Landry is.

[shane88]

Yes!! Bench him for a game NOW! And trade his cocky a** in the offseason!

[BurgundyNGold]

Yes. Start Kareem Moore, who has better ball instincts and is more suited to play FS than Landry is.
I'll agree with the second part of your statement. I'm still not sold that Kareem Moore is anything more than a tourist.

[CarMike]

3 weeks ago

[cal_junior]

Does moving him to SS count as benching? Because that's what I'd do

[shally]

The Redskins bench Rogers when he bit on a double move against Denver.

Should Landry be bench for falling for a double, not one, but twice? He bit on one with a 7 point lead with under 2 minutes left in the game.

absolutely !! i dont care if he is the fastest safety.. they benched rogers

by the way, apparently, moore did go in for him for a play or two, if i read correctly

[Redskinmayhem]

Benched for a week, then move him to SS. Problem is, although he makes mistakes, I think we're going to see a much less agressive and "vanilla" defense w/o him in there.

[shally]

two words:

Lendy Holmes.. he has better instincts from the times i have seen him in..

[Redskinmayhem]

Yes!! Bench him for a game NOW! And trade his cocky a** in the offseason!

I don't like the idea of trading him. He doesn't have as much value as he should because of his play, yet we made a major investment in him. Besides, someone else will play him at SS or 4th man in the box and he will be a monster. Watch for it.

[Ibleedburgundy]

I said yes but if the season were on the line, I would not agree with benching him because he is still probably better than Moore. If Horton were healthy that might change the equation. But since this season is worthless, I would agree with teaching Laron a lesson right now.

And during his off week maybe someone can work on his tackling technique. He's got the talent but he's not making the best of it IMO. Coaches need to chip in here.

[akhhorus]

I would keep him on the field, but bench him for a quarter if he bit on another double move.

[shally]

I said yes but if the season were on the line, I would not agree with benching him because he is still probably better than Moore. If Horton were healthy that might change the equation. But since this season is worthless, I would agree with teaching Laron a lesson right now.

And during his off week maybe someone can work on his tackling technique. He's got the talent but he's not making the best of it IMO. Coaches need to chip in here.


+1

[Ibleedburgundy]

Also, what Rogers did might or might not be worse depending on what the scheme was. On one of the plays Rogers got burned on, I noticed both he and Doughty released their man to the FS. You would think at least one of them was told they are on an island and cannot release. Surely Blache/Grey wouldn't tell both of them they could release. Anyway, I have a feeling Rogers was told he needed to plan man with his guy and Doughty, being the weaker of the two in coverage, was told he would have help over the top.

So there is a chance Rogers' mistake was worse because not only did he get physically beat/fooled, he didn't even know his assignment to begin with.

[LATrueRedskin]

I'd move him to Strong Safety

[Biggie]

I spent half of last Sunday yelling at him through the TV.

[GibbsFan]

Bench Him and trade him too, I think he can bring good value in a trade down scenario. there will be teams that will want him and we need picks for the OL

Moore and Horton would be fine replacements. he has the speed but his head is just not right and sooner or later its really not gonna be right

bail and get value while we can

[shally]

I spent half of last Sunday yelling at him through the TV.

the alternating plays watching him strut and preen, and then watching him get pwned over and over was bizarre.. someone on the Saints offensive coaching staff was totally dialed in to his weaknesses

[Skaggsrules]

Does anyone else get this weird feeling we'll draft Eric Berry then move Landry over to SS?

[Snyder Is The Cancer]

I voted "no" :/ Accident.

If there was an "off this team" button I would press it

[Redskinmayhem]

Does anyone else get this weird feeling we'll draft Eric Berry then move Landry over to SS?

I have that sneaking suspicion as well. Berry will be in that 4-8 spot where we'll be drafting.

[DaveKShape]

he really bothers me. for every one decent play he makes where he spends the next 20 seconds posturing like some type of 4-year-old, he ruins two plays, by either:

a) the infamous "I'M GOING TO MAKE THE TOP TEN PLAYS LOL" amateur flying shoulder tackle
or
b) i'm going to get burned by a far-from-elite receiver on the coverage

dude needs an attitude adjustment for real.

[Redskinmayhem]

Jim Zorn just just said on his show on 980 that benching LL isn't an option. Says it's a lose/lose for us.

[csquared]

two words:

Lendy Holmes.. he has better instincts from the times i have seen him in..

LMAO! Shally you and your Rudy like practice squad all-stars. When have we seen him in? Pre season mop up time?

[Fathead]

He shouldn't just be benched, he should have his thumbs broken too.

[rskinsfan10]

I'd move him to Strong SafetyHello!! How about moving the guy to his natural position and finding a REAL FS? The fact that they play him 90yds away from the LOS should scream that they acknowledge he isn't a FS.

[CNYSkinFan]

I voted No only because I dont think we have a FS on the roster. Moore may be the answer but I am not sold on him either.

Giotta wonder if we draft a guy like taylor Mayes and move Landry back to SS.

And can someone explain to landry that leaving his feet to make a hit is less effective then driving right through a man. You want to put some pain on someone drill them into the ground, don't jump in the air giving away all your leverage.

[Fathead]

Who cares if we don't have a FS on the roster? Do you think that Landry is going to help us win out from here or something? His cocky ass needs to be benched until he realizes that showboating is stupid.

[CNYSkinFan]

Who cares if we don't have a FS on the roster? Do you think that Landry is going to help us win out from here or something? His cocky ass needs to be benched until he realizes that showboating is stupid.

Hey i am all for trading him in the offseason orat the least signing a FS and moving him to SS. But I really don't weant to lose to the raiders.....the freaking raiders.....

[Fathead]

Who cares? You still have pride in this team? Why?






Besides, Landry is a liability, not an asset. A cardboard cutout of Sean would be a better FS.

[dj_stouty]

Bench him!

And so help me if we use another top 10 pick on a d-back next year...

[bfauble83]

Bench him...I'm tired of the making a play any pro should, then 5 minutes of posing, followed by a flying shoulder tackle that is easily avoided as the opposing player picks up another 15 yards before London/Doughty finally brings them down.

[CNYSkinFan]

Who cares? You still have pride in this team? Why?

Besides, Landry is a liability, not an asset. A cardboard cutout of Sean would be a better FS.

I have no pride in this team, but i know way too many raider fans who will harrass me all off season (as it happened in 2005).

Landry is a liability, so is reed Doughty and Horton, and even Moore who bought on double moves all pre-season, all our safeties suck in coverage but are supposedly good in run coverage. So basically if we play Army next weekend we might win.

I think Landry needs an attitude adjustment, I just don't buy sitting him yet. And I was not for sitting Rogers either. This arbitrary benching thing is just that, arbitrary. Why not bench Heyer for missing just about every blitz pickup coming his way?

Play the best 11 man and dole out your justice in the off season.

[WackyJacky]

Jim Zorn just just said on his show on 980 that benching LL isn't an option. Says it's a lose/lose for us.
Lose/Lose? Aren't we already there? Bench him!

[Fathead]

Doughty isn't jawing after every routine tackle either.



Landry needs to be brought down about 300 pegs.

[wewantdallas]

I would definitely bench him. The thing that irks me the most about him is that he never seems to own up to his mistakes and he obviously doesn't learn from them.

I'd rather see a less talented guy out there working his ass off and playing with heart and team pride.

Unreal that this douche still doesn't know how to wrap up on a tackle. He was SO FREAKIN' LUCKY that Brees stumbled and fell after he gave him his patented "flying shoulder" hit. A perfectly clean shot at the QB, and he chooses once again to fly in with his shoulder when anyone with sense would've just wrapped the guy up. So beyond sick of that pathetic act AND the ridiculous posing.

Singletary's speech last year to his player was meant for people like Laron Landry.

[Snyder Is The Cancer]

His cocky ass needs to be benched until he realizes that showboating is stupid.

LOL! We could be down by 50 and we would still be seeing that idiot showing off.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Hello!! How about moving the guy to his natural position and finding a REAL FS? The fact that they play him 90yds away from the LOS should scream that they acknowledge he isn't a FS.
And there you have it.

[Ibleedburgundy]

lol @ "Snyder is the cancer"

That is an awesome name!

[Snyder Is The Cancer]

lol @ "Snyder is the cancer"

That is an awesome name!

Thanks man. Just wait till' I can post my own avatar.

[Farmer Ted]

Unreal that this douche still doesn't know how to wrap up on a tackle. He was SO FREAKIN' LUCKY that Brees stumbled and fell after he gave him his patented "flying shoulder" hit. A perfectly clean shot at the QB, and he chooses once again to fly in with his shoulder when anyone with sense would've just wrapped the guy up. So beyond sick of that pathetic act AND the ridiculous posing.


The really dumb thing about his tackling style is that he never actually blows a guy up. When he hits someone, maybe they fall over. But I've never seen a signature hit out of him where he dislodged the ball or blew a helmet off. He usually gets the worse end of it, to be honest. He's so far from being a Sean Taylor that it's absurd. I just don't see why he'd be so great at strong safety, he's not that big and doesn't hit that hard, and obviously is a lousy tackler.

[FunBunch5]

Jim Zorn just just said on his show on 980 that benching LL isn't an option. Says it's a lose/lose for us.

JZ is balless This statement right here shows he has no leadership. How is this a lose lose? What is the worse thing that is going to happen we end up with a losing record? JZ, think about the player for once instead of your potential stellar 5-11 record. This guy needs some discipline and just maybe it is that discipline that will make LL a better player in the future. We have nothing to gain by keeping LL in the starting lineup. All it does is reward LL's bad behavior and poor play.

[Skinz4lyfe]

Accountability and consistency. 2 words that this franchise should become familiar w/in order to be successful. Yes bench him. Send a message to the team.

[Monk4HOF]

Seemed to work with Rogers and Horton... they weren't beaten on many double moves after they returned from their benchings. Landry needs to sit on the sideline and watch for a game.

[wewantdallas]

JZ is balless This statement right here shows he has no leadership. How is this a lose lose? What is the worse thing that is going to happen we end up with a losing record? JZ, think about the player for once instead of your potential stellar 5-11 record. This guy needs some discipline and just maybe it is that discipline that will make LL a better player in the future. We have nothing to gain by keeping LL in the starting lineup. All it does is reward LL's bad behavior and poor play.


Zorn went on to defend Landry's showboating, saying basically, "Well, the league has taken so many things away from the guys as far as celebrating that I'm not going to stifle them when they want to show their emotion."

The whole thing reminds me of how some hippy commune would raise their children - no discipline, no accountability, just do whatever the hell you feel like doing.

I don't mind a little dance or fist pump after you stop a guy for a big loss or prevent a first down or make a game-changing pick. But when you hit someone moderately hard after they gain 7 yards on you, not long after YOU just gave up a ridiculous TD, and you pull that crap, you just look like a buffoon.

[BigCountry]

Didn't we have another free safety that went through similar issues?

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Didn't we have another free safety that went through similar issues?
Those were my exact thoughts on Sunday. His entry into the league reminds me so much of him. You see the potential, but then you see the lack of discipline and the overly aggressive plays. Not wrapping up while tackling. He needs to recommit and become disciplined. Its not like he lacks for talent.

[dj_stouty]

Doughty isn't jawing after every routine tackle either.



Landry needs to be brought down about 300 pegs.

I agree. I don't remember Landry doing so many post-tackle celebrations as he has the past 4-5 games. He is picking a bad time to start getting cocky.

[BurgundyNGold]

two words:

Lendy Holmes.. he has better instincts from the times i have seen him in..
Rinehart, Moore and now Holmes? What is it with you and scrubs lol? I hear that Batiste is a pretty good guy. And he's from NoLa. ;)

[Moe]

Maybe it's asking too much but how about the coaches actually working with him to improve his recognition and technique. Landry's weakness has been outed, but he played a solid game in many other respects. He has talent, and despite being miscast I think his talents should allow him to improve. Maybe it'll take a benching to get through to him, but in light of how this D is being directed I'd be reluctant to give up on a guy with his physical advantages.

[NCskinsfanatic]

I'd just start with playing him at his natural position but that would mean Blache would have to realize you can't squeeze blood from a turnip...raise your hand if you think that'll happen lol. If Blache was capable of reflection/change then Orakpo would be playing DE full time...instead Blache is akin to "Hem' from the book "Who moved my cheese".

[X-Factor13]

I just think we need to have him and horton in. They are both good players, and if horton got the hang of fs our worries would be gone imo. I like both of those players and I want to see them succeed. That being said, yes bench him! Not even because of his getting faked out on a move that shouldn't matter to him because he has deepest man, but because of his poor poor attitude. Brandon Jacobs put him in his place, and I think since then instead of righting the ship through work ethic and humble play, he has gone even further in the direction that got him ripped. It's almost like Snyder because he is clearly wrong in his approach, but since he has all the means to succeed, he will refuse to admit that he needs a change in direction

[NCskinsfanatic]

I just think we need to have him and horton in. They are both good players, and if horton got the hang of fs our worries would be gone imo. I like both of those players and I want to see them succeed. That being said, yes bench him! Not even because of his getting faked out on a move that shouldn't matter to him because he has deepest man, but because of his poor poor attitude. Brandon Jacobs put him in his place, and I think since then instead of righting the ship through work ethic and humble play, he has gone even further in the direction that got him ripped. It's almost like Snyder because he is clearly wrong in his approach, but since he has all the means to succeed, he will refuse to admit that he needs a change in direction

I dont think Horton can play fs at all X. He doesnt have the hip fluidity or coverage skills necessary imo, he's an in the box ss too. And there in lies the problem...we dont have a true fs on the roster, other than maybe Kareem, and he's likely no much more than a backup/fringe starter at the position.

[silverspring]

Doughty isn't jawing after every routine tackle either.



Landry needs to be brought down about 300 pegs.

+1. Exactly!!!

What is most frustrating about landry is that he is doing some stupid dance the next play he is in after he gives up a td. It makes me think he just doesn't get it, so someone needs to make him get it.

Personally, i think we should trade him this off season if at all possible. We actually have some depth at safety right now and I think smoot could also turn into a free safety next season.

[Fathead]

Even my wife was calling Landry an idiot for how much he was showboating on Sunday, and her football knowledge extends to: I like it when they throw long passes for TDs.

[hail2skins]

Didn't we have another free safety that went through similar issues?
Yes we did. But he did bring the pain in his early days. He finally got it in his 3rd season which according to your post, you hope Landry gets it. But, Landry has to decide he wants to be the best like Sean did. Sean actually studied more of the game and specifically his position. I still remember when Theismann mentioned that Sean approached him and asked for a session with him and how they studied QB's. Guess what, he was lighting it up too before his death.

I do agree with rskinsfan10 in that he should be moved to his natural position. He's great at the line of scrimmage contrary to one post I saw above.

[NCskinsfanatic]

+1. Exactly!!!

What is most frustrating about landry is that he is doing some stupid dance the next play he is in after he gives up a td. It makes me think he just doesn't get it, so someone needs to make him get it.

Personally, i think we should trade him this off season if at all possible. We actually have some depth at safety right now and I think smoot could also turn into a free safety next season.

I agree with everything you posted except Smoot at FS, he's far too fragile/small and isnt a sure enough tackler (imo) to make the move and actually stay off IR.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Yes we did. But he did bring the pain in his early days. He finally got it in his 3rd season which according to your post, you hope Landry gets it. But, Landry has to decide he wants to be the best like Sean did. Sean actually studied more of the game and specifically his position. I still remember when Theismann mentioned that Sean approached him and asked for a session with him and how they studied QB's. Guess what, he was lighting it up too before his death.

I do agree with rskinsfan10 in that he should be moved to his natural position. He's great at the line of scrimmage contrary to one post I saw above.

Exactly H2, just ask Brett Farve about ST's last game against him...

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

No, he should be traded.

In the mean time... heck yes, he should be benched.

[BurgundyNGold]

Didn't we have another free safety that went through similar issues?
Yeah, but Landry is a SS. At least that's what he played in college. And what he was projected in to the pros. And why he was drafted so high. And what he started as a rookie here.

Playing Landry, Orakpo and Daniels out of position -- nearly 30% of our defensive players -- is an insult to common sense and a crime against the franchise, if not humanity. We need to get the Hague in on this lol.

[LATrueRedskin]

Those were my exact thoughts on Sunday. His entry into the league reminds me so much of him. You see the potential, but then you see the lack of discipline and the overly aggressive plays. Not wrapping up while tackling. He needs to recommit and become disciplined. Its not like he lacks for talent.

Agreed. Although nobody broke free from a Sean Taylor tackle. :)

[hail2skins]

Agreed. Although nobody broke free from a Sean Taylor tackle. :)No, they just broke. LOL.

[Patrick]

He needs to be on the field cause he's got the talent. He NEEDS coaching as well as being mentored.
Calling Kenny Houston!

[CarMike]

Look at the progress Taylor made in his third season. That is what separates Taylor from Landry.

Plus, look at the number of INTs Sean had 9 games into his fourth season. And check out the return yards on those INTs. Man....

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h191/CarMike24/taylorlandrystats.jpg

Granted, they give credit to Taylor for 16 games, and Landry for 12 games. Still....

[BigCountry]

Yes we did. But he did bring the pain in his early days. He finally got it in his 3rd season which according to your post, you hope Landry gets it. But, Landry has to decide he wants to be the best like Sean did. Sean actually studied more of the game and specifically his position. I still remember when Theismann mentioned that Sean approached him and asked for a session with him and how they studied QB's. Guess what, he was lighting it up too before his death.

I do agree with rskinsfan10 in that he should be moved to his natural position. He's great at the line of scrimmage contrary to one post I saw above.

I don't know how much Sean Taylor really got it in 06. He a lot of tackles as CarMike points out but I think he gave up 10 TD's and many of which were similar to the ones Landry did on Sunday. Sean needed to learn how to play with his head and not just his body, and did it in 07. Landry needs to do the same thing.

[Rogers_Redskins]

He should be benched and then taught to tackle, the man does not ever wrap up when he tries to tackel a player.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Agreed. Although nobody broke free from a Sean Taylor tackle. :)
Haha, true. They just bounced off while he launched his body at them, but they all fell eventually, lol.
No, they just broke. LOL.
LOL.

[Brokenstriker]

Bench him ... then put him on the depth chart at strong safety. If he earns his way back to the field ... bench him immediately after the next posing, posturing, preening peacock piss-ant event ... which will probably be immediately after the first play he is on the field. Repeat as necessary until he gets the freaking message ... deliver quality team play and drop the "me" crap

[HAWGZHEAD]

Bench him ... then put him on the depth chart at strong safety. If he earns his way back to the field ... bench him immediately after the next posing, posturing, preening peacock piss-ant event ... which will probably be immediately after the first play he is on the field. Repeat as necessary until he gets the freaking message ... deliver quality team play and drop the "me" crapI adopt this post as my own lol

[redskin_rich]

Haha, true. They just bounced off while he launched his body at them, but they all fell eventually, lol.

LOL.

Taylor didn't launch himself until the last second, if he launched. Usually he just ran through the ball carrier. Landry launches like he thinks he is Superman. LL badly needs some disciplined coaching and not the carte blanche treatment he is getting.

[Poindexter]

Does moving him to SS count as benching? Because that's what I'd do

you're right....I wish we would stop exploiting our players weakness'. He should be playing SS

But I would bench him for his tackling.....he is a horrible tackler, horrible.

[greatest2]

He is a strong safety if I e er saw one.

His tackling is like a missle, kinda like Troy p from Pittsburg. Landry isn't good when he has to come from 20 yards away, only some can do that a deliver big hits(sean Taylor specifically). Yea he does have speed to deter deep balls but he gets caught going for the first move by the wr or the qb rather then waiting and letting his speed make up for it.

We drafted him to sit where reed doughty or Chris horton sit. In the box, short zones, blitz, taking the te or rb. He would be DOMINATE if we used him there. Short zones, 8 in the box. He would be the playmaker we drafted. Unfortunatly Sean passed and that left him as the best fs on the team.

In my opinion I would play him at strong saftey and let Kareem Moore play free. Then look for a free saftey in the offseason in free agency.

[hail2skins]

I don't know how much Sean Taylor really got it in 06. He a lot of tackles as CarMike points out but I think he gave up 10 TD's and many of which were similar to the ones Landry did on Sunday. Sean needed to learn how to play with his head and not just his body, and did it in 07. Landry needs to do the same thing.
That's exactly what I mean, I just said the year wrong.

[csquared]

He is a strong safety if I e er saw one.

His tackling is like a missle, kinda like Troy p from Pittsburg. Landry isn't good when he has to come from 20 yards away, only some can do that a deliver big hits(sean Taylor specifically). Yea he does have speed to deter deep balls but he gets caught going for the first move by the wr or the qb rather then waiting and letting his speed make up for it.

We drafted him to sit where reed doughty or Chris horton sit. In the box, short zones, blitz, taking the te or rb. He would be DOMINATE if we used him there. Short zones, 8 in the box. He would be the playmaker we drafted. Unfortunatly Sean passed and that left him as the best fs on the team.

In my opinion I would play him at strong saftey and let Kareem Moore play free. Then look for a free saftey in the offseason in free agency.

No he is nothing like Polamalu. That comparison is ridiculous.

[Hr fan]

I don't like the idea of trading him. He doesn't have as much value as he should because of his play, yet we made a major investment in him. Besides, someone else will play him at SS or 4th man in the box and he will be a monster. Watch for it.

Agree. If trading a player you KNOW you are playing out of position throw in Orakpo. IMO find out what he has at the position he should be playing.

[Brokenstriker]

His tackling is like a missle ???

From Webster's dictionary ...

1 : to attach or secure with or as if with tackle
2 a : to seize, take hold of, or grapple with especially with the intention of stopping or subduing b : to seize and throw down or stop (an opposing player with the ball) in football

Landry does not "tackle," ... he hits, collides with, bumps into, obstucts (when Jacobs ran over him) ... but he doesn't and as best I can tell may never have tackled anyone

he doesn't tackle ... he hits people ... and a surprisingly large percentage of those people either: A) don't fall down, B) are already being tackled by another player; or, C) are standing on the sideline

[Farmer Ted]

???

From Webster's dictionary ...

1 : to attach or secure with or as if with tackle
2 a : to seize, take hold of, or grapple with especially with the intention of stopping or subduing b : to seize and throw down or stop (an opposing player with the ball) in football

Landry does not "tackle," ... he hits, collides with, bumps into, obstucts (when Jacobs ran over him) ... but he doesn't and as best I can tell may never have tackled anyone

he doesn't tackle ... he hits people ... and a surprisingly large percentage of those people either: A) don't fall down, B) are already being tackled by another player; or, C) are standing on the sideline

LMAO! Remove the -ile from missile, and then you have a perfect description of his tackling style.

[dogfight6]

No. Bench the people who drafted him for SS. to team up with Sean Taylor to become the most feared Safety tandum in the NFL. and have done nothing to remedy the situation. Lets draft the best OT. ava. and play him at linebacker.

[Dolla Bill]

This should be 3 choices. Bench him, keep status quo, or move him to where he belongs as SS. It would be an unanimous decision to have him moved to SS. Probably 100% would be in agreement.

[dj_stouty]

I'm starting to wonder what the point is to moving him to SS. If the guy can't tackle what good is he playing closer to the LOS in run support? At least Doughty wraps up...

I'm just tired of the glancing blows he makes at least 2-3 times a game. Every time he does that, the defense gives up another 1st down. And on top of it...we have to sit through his silly muscle flex routines even when he tackles someone for a long gain.

I'm getting sick of the Landry experiment. My #30 jersey is staying put in the closet right next to Moss Pro Bowl. Only my Lavar authentic will be worn from now on until the current pool of players start acting like professionals.

[hail2skins]

I'm starting to wonder what the point is to moving him to SS. If the guy can't tackle what good is he playing closer to the LOS in run support? At least Doughty wraps up...

I'm just tired of the glancing blows he makes at least 2-3 times a game. Every time he does that, the defense gives up another 1st down. And on top of it...we have to sit through his silly muscle flex routines even when he tackles someone for a long gain.

I'm getting sick of the Landry experiment. My #30 jersey is staying put in the closet right next to Moss Pro Bowl. Only my Lavar authentic will be worn from now on until the current pool of players start acting like professionals.
When he was there early in his career he wasn't bad at the line of scrimmage.

[hail2skins]

This should be 3 choices. Bench him, keep status quo, or move him to where he belongs as SS. It would be an unanimous decision to have him moved to SS. Probably 100% would be in agreement.No, it should not be 3 choices. He is our FS whether we like it or not. Other players in the secondary have been punished when making mistakes. He hasn't. Why????

[SlinginSam14]

I voted for no. He has played terrible but he showed in the Dallas game that he has big game potenial. I think if we move him to SS next season he can be better. Hes not and never was a FS. The biggest problem I have with Landry is how he seems to tackle with just his shoulder.

As for comparing Landrys problems to Sean Taylors is a stretch. Taylor did have his ups and downs but he made up for it with the big plays he made. I could count Landrys big plays since coming to DC on one hand. Taylors would take 100 pairs of hands. The only flaw in Taylors game was defending the pass but in 2007 he finally put it all together.

If Taylor wasnt murdered he would easily be the best safety in the NFL today. Heck he probably was in 2007. I dont ever see Landry being that type of safety. He can be a pretty solid SS with some work though.

[silverspring]

No, it should not be 3 choices. He is our FS whether we like it or not. Other players in the secondary have been punished when making mistakes. He hasn't. Why????

++ He has been playing and starting at FS for sometime. He should be held accountable for the position he is playing at not the position he/whoever thinks he should be playing.

[redskin_rich]

Anybody making any comparison to Taylor has no memory or is just pulling ish out of their arse. Sean showed his playmaking ability the first preseason game he played in. Sean made mistakes but they were not close to the number of amazing plays he made.

What has Landry done? His best plays were personal fouls, lol.
Let me know when Landry blows a player up, in bounds.

Strong Safety? You have to be able to tackle. Some intelligence helps, as well.

[Farmer Ted]

++ He has been playing and starting at FS for sometime. He should be held accountable for the position he is playing at not the position he/whoever thinks he should be playing.

You could play Polamalu out of position, and he'd still be a great player. I think that Landry would just find newer ways to embarrass himself if he were moved.

[Moe]

I'm starting to wonder what the point is to moving him to SS. If the guy can't tackle what good is he playing closer to the LOS in run support? At least Doughty wraps up...

I'm just tired of the glancing blows he makes at least 2-3 times a game. Every time he does that, the defense gives up another 1st down. And on top of it...we have to sit through his silly muscle flex routines even when he tackles someone for a long gain.

I think it's all about spacing with him. Playing deep and/or in space he's got a run up on most of his tackles and oftentimes they're moving targets. He obviously tries to go for the hit rather than to wrap up securely and the results have been poor. The coaches should be on him about correcting that. However, closer to the line he would more often than not be attacking forward or in a much more confined space (and oftentimes with the assistance of other players) where he would have to rely on wrapping up and where his physicality would be more effective.

An old adage is that guys either can't or won't tackle. He can't, but that's the correctable one of the two.

[CNYSkinFan]

the Deep Blache zones are partly responsible for this as well. landry has to run in full speed on every play just to be part of the action. the biting on double moves is a symptom of that problem. Only one player could be effective in those zones, thaat was the great Sean Taylor. If we played an NFL defense this would not be too muich of an issue.

But he is a much better SS and maybe would not be soo out of control if he wasn't 20 yards off the LOS every play.

[SlinginSam14]

the Deep Blache zones are partly responsible for this as well. landry has to run in full speed on every play just to be part of the action. the biting on double moves is a symptom of that problem. Only one player could be effective in those zones, thaat was the great Sean Taylor. If we played an NFL defense this would not be too muich of an issue.

But he is a much better SS and maybe would not be soo out of control if he wasn't 20 yards off the LOS every play.

Agreed 100%. This is a problem. The CBs also giving 10-15 yard cushions is a problem. The WR gets a free release and can cut it short for a nice gain, or blow past the CB and have a edge on Landry if the CB doesnt cover him based on what defensive play is called.

[redskin_rich]

For ****'s sake, STOP WITH THE EXCUSES!

Landry has been playing this position for two years now. He was put there because he has more speed than anyone else we have. It is not uncommon to change a players role, according to the team's needs. He has known his role and should be working on being better at it.

He is a horrible tackler, so I totally disagree that he would be better at SS. Strong Safety has to be a stopper. Also, SS has to be intelligent and able to read the QB. Landry has not shown the slightest bit of intelligence on the field.

It's not all his fault, the coaches have to be held responsible, as well. Jerry Gray, Steve Jackson... Oh joy, one of them may very well be our next Head Coach.

[SlinginSam14]

For ****'s sake, STOP WITH THE EXCUSES!

Landry has been playing this position for two years now. He was put there because he has more speed than anyone else we have. It is not uncommon to change a players role, according to the team's needs. He has known his role and should be working on being better at it.

He is a horrible tackler, so I totally disagree that he would be better at SS. Strong Safety has to be a stopper. Also, SS has to be intelligent and able to read the QB. Landry has not shown the slightest bit of intelligence on the field.

It's not all his fault, the coaches have to be held responsible, as well. Jerry Gray, Steve Jackson... Oh joy, one of them may very well be our next Head Coach.

There shouldnt be any excuses Landry has played like crap this season. He tackles with his shoulder and doesnt wrap up. Hes like a Sean Taylor wannabe where in he wants to make the knockout hit but cant do it without drawing a 15 yd penalty. His coverage skills are also poor at best. I do think though that the coaches have been part of the problem. That said Landry has to produce on the field.

So far in DC he has been a bust. He still does have some talent and potenial. I think two things have to happen if he is going to have any success. He has to be moved back to SS. Thats his best fit. The closer he is to the action the more chances he has to make a impact play.

The other thing that has to happen is he needs to learn how to wrap up when he tackles. Landry just needs to get his head on straight and learn how to make the tackle. Then he can deliver the pain once he puts it all together.

Landry should have never been moved to FS. Now with Doughty at SS playing great we have two SS in the starting lineup. Right now Doughty might be the 2nd best player on defense besides London Fletcher. Since we cant take Doughty out we have Landry being used and abused at FS.

I think the biggest problem this franchise has had over the years is the fact that we take players and play them out of position. It might be best if we can somehow trade Landry after the season.

I still stand by not benching him. Right now hes still our best FS even though hes terrible at it.

[redskin_rich]

There shouldnt be any excuses Landry has played like crap this season. He tackles with his shoulder and doesnt wrap up. Hes like a Sean Taylor wannabe where in he wants to make the knockout hit but cant do it without drawing a 15 yd penalty. His coverage skills are also poor at best. I do think though that the coaches have been part of the problem. That said Landry has to produce on the field.

So far in DC he has been a bust. He still does have some talent and potenial. I think two things have to happen if he is going to have any success. He has to be moved back to SS. Thats his best fit. The closer he is to the action the more chances he has to make a impact play.

The other thing that has to happen is he needs to learn how to wrap up when he tackles. Landry just needs to get his head on straight and learn how to make the tackle. Then he can deliver the pain once he puts it all together.

Landry should have never been moved to FS. Now with Doughty at SS playing great we have two SS in the starting lineup. Right now Doughty might be the 2nd best player on defense besides London Fletcher. Since we cant take Doughty out we have Landry being used and abused at FS.

I think the biggest problem this franchise has had over the years is the fact that we take players and play them out of position. It might be best if we can somehow trade Landry after the season.

I still stand by not benching him. Right now hes still our best FS even though hes terrible at it.
I am in almost total agreement with this post. One thing you didn't touch on though was the coaching. Preferential treatment hurts the player and team chemistry. Sometimes, you have to sacrifice better talent for the good of the team and if that means playing someone else one week, so be it. The Skins have done it elsewhere and there has to be consistency.

As for trading LL. I have been advocating that for over a year now. Unfortunately, I think his trade value has dropped dramatically this year. He was never worth a 1st, especially not in the top 15 but up until this season, I think we could have gotten a 2nd. Now, a 4th that could be conditionally a 3rd. We're better off letting him play through his contract and walk as a FA and maybe get a compensatory 3rd.

[SlinginSam14]

I am in almost total agreement with this post. One thing you didn't touch on though was the coaching. Preferential treatment hurts the player and team chemistry. Sometimes, you have to sacrifice better talent for the good of the team and if that means playing someone else one week, so be it. The Skins have done it elsewhere and there has to be consistency.

Do you mean the team is giving preferential treatment b/c he should be benched for his poor play and replaced by someone like Kareem Moore?

If I knew for a fact we were getting rid of Landry after the season id agree with benching him for Moore. Even though Moore screwed up after his INT vs the Saints it was a mistake by a young player who wanted to make a play after his first career INT. I like Moore's potenial as a FS for us in the future.

If Landry is coming back next season id rather keep him in the starting lineup these last four games so he can get some more practice at getting better in the tackling and coverage departments.

As for trading LL. I have been advocating that for over a year now. Unfortunately, I think his trade value has dropped dramatically this year. He was never worth a 1st, especially not in the top 15 but up until this season, I think we could have gotten a 2nd. Now, a 4th that could be conditionally a 3rd. We're better off letting him play through his contract and walk as a FA and maybe get a compensatory 3rd.

I agree Landry was never worth the 6th overall pick in 2007. The only reason I didnt hate the pick at the time was b/c he had the potenial with Sean Taylor to create maybe the best safety tandem of all-time.

The sad thing is if Taylor wasnt killed Landry might be a pretty good player right now. Taylor could let Laron do his thing b/c Taylor can cover so much space and also teach Landry on how to tackle while still delivering a hard hit.

Im hoping Landry can turn it around and have more games like the one he had in Dallas this season. Out of 12 games that one game was the only one where Landry didnt look like a fool.