There's a Hog in the Hall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[oldskinfan]

http://views.washingtonpost.com/theleague/nflnewsfeed/2010/01/grimm-among-hall-of-fame-finalists.html

List includes:
Grimm (OL)
Jerry Rice (WR)
Emmitt Smith (RB)
Don Coryell (Coach)
Tim Brown (WR)
Cris Carter (WR)
Roger Craig (RB)
Dermontti Dawson (OL)
Richard Dent (DL)
Charles Haley (DL)
Rickey Jackson (LB)
Cortez Kennedy (DL)
John Randle (DL)
Andre Reed (WR)
Shannon Sharpe (TE)

Only one other O-lineman on the ballot and you would think Grimm gets in first.
Rice and Smith are sure things. I think that shuts out other RBs and WRs. You just don't put them on stage w/ Rice and Smith.

My vote would be for Grimm, Coryell, Smith, Rice, Randle, and under-appreciated Rickey Jackson.

[MDBluefinCrab]

Good luck Russ. Every damn Hog should be in the Hall of Fame.

[tuckahoeskin]

I would LOVE to see Chris Carter get snubbed for a decade or so. Just seeing him whine and cry about it every year would be priceless.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

other than smith and rice,no other guy on that list deserves it more than russ grimm.

[BigTex]

I hope Grimm gets in this year.

[Keino]

http://views.washingtonpost.com/theleague/nflnewsfeed/2010/01/grimm-among-hall-of-fame-finalists.html

List includes:
Grimm (OL)
Jerry Rice (WR)
Emmitt Smith (RB)
Don Coryell (Coach)
Tim Brown (WR)
Cris Carter (WR)
Roger Craig (RB)
Dermontti Dawson (OL)
Richard Dent (DL)
Charles Haley (DL)
Rickey Jackson (LB)
Cortez Kennedy (DL)
John Randle (DL)
Andre Reed (WR)
Shannon Sharpe (TE)

Only one other O-lineman on the ballot and you would think Grimm gets in first.
Rice and Smith are sure things. I think that shuts out other RBs and WRs. You just don't put them on stage w/ Rice and Smith.

My vote would be for Grimm, Coryell, Smith, Rice, Randle, and under-appreciated Rickey Jackson.


If I were a voter, my 7 would be in Bold.


Partially, because I agree with you. I don't think another RB or WR should share the stage with Emmitt & Rice, respectively. Dent and Rickey Jackson should have made it long ago, so my votes for them are in part, to fix an ongoing injustice. John Randle in a way revolutionized the 4-3 DT position, and whenever you scare an O lineman so bad that he pisses himeslf, that's HOF worthy in my eyes.

Grimm is a homer pick for me, but it also corrects an ongoing injustice. To not have one member of the best Offensive line of the 80's in the Hall is a travesty of justice. Grimm was the hands down best at his position for nearly a decade, on a team that produced 3 rings and 4 trips to the Superbowl. He anchored the line of the most prolific offense in NFL history at the time, an offense that would keep that title for some 16 years.

Coryell deserves it for sure, but I never think that a Coach or Exec should get in at the expense of a player, so that is why he doesn't get my vote.

Lastly, Sharpe. Also can be said to have revolutionized his position. Contributed to 3 SB rings on 2 different teams and is hands down a 1st ballot guy.

If it were up to me, this would be the 2010 class of the HOF.

[Fathead]

Keino, only 5 of those guys make it. There will be some old timers list that is simply yes or no that determine the other 2.



edit:

The seniors list, they are simply a yes or no on both.

Dick Lebeau
Floyd Little

[Keino]

Keino, only 5 of those guys make it. There will be some old timers list that is simply yes or no that determine the other 2.



edit:

The seniors list, they are simply a yes or no on both.

Dick Lebeau
Floyd Little

Man I forgot all about the Senior committee list. If I were going to cut 2 off my list.....

I don't know who it would be.

[bigcmr]

The way the HOF is ran is such a joke.

[wewantdallas]

I'm so glad I don't have to deal with this crap anymore, but ... GO, GRIMM!! :-)

[shane88]

Didn't I see/hear where they are letting fans vote also? If so, then It's gonna end up being another popularity contest just like the freakin' Pro Bowl and lose a whole lot of what credibility they do have.

[remaxjon]

Didn't I see/hear where they are letting fans vote also? If so, then It's gonna end up being another popularity contest just like the freakin' Pro Bowl and lose a whole lot of what credibility they do have.

http://www.fanschoice.com/vote.aspx

I don't think it counts they just let the hall know who the fans picked

[The Skinsinator]

Good luck Russ. Every damn Hog should be in the Hall of Fame.+1

He is very deserving however. Just hope he gets in and doesn't have to wait 40 years like Monk.

[Hr fan]

Grimm and Jacoby both made the team of the eighties, and have not received any recognition. There are only 16 Gs and 16 Ts for all nfl history that made all decade teams. How hard is that? And the furor over Monk. And the swooning over the 49ers players from the eighties vs us.

That he isn't in makes me sick. That Jacoby will never be in makes me ignore the process entirely.

[LATrueRedskin]

Fingers crossed for you, Russ!

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

i think other than emmitt,rice,and grimm,i'd like to see shannen sharpe make it.i think he deserves it before chris carter does.

[ObiWan1278]

Yeah Sharpe change his position I don't see how that doesn't automatically qualify you for the HOF.

On a side note why doesn't Dent and Haley get more love?

[hogskins]

Yeah Sharpe change his position I don't see how that doesn't automatically qualify you for the HOF.

On a side note why doesn't Dent and Haley get more love?

Could be that those guys, like Grimm, were parts of units that had a lot of notoriety, and their individual accomplishments get lost in the noise... (?)

[Rogers_Redskins]

I hope Grimm gets in but I doubt it. Dick Lebeau will make it this year. Smith, Rice, Sharpe, Dent, and Haley or Jackson.

The voters think they are picking who gets into heaven so they are very finicky about who gets there vote.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

fox and espn both said that russ grimm is also a canidate for the buffalo bills head coaching job.

[28Zcomeback]

He practically invented the DT position. He made the Pro Bowl several years despite the fact that he was playing on mediocre teams.

Merlin Olsen made it. Why not his Pro Bowl teammate Alex?

Anyone got an answer, because this one baffles me.

[redskin_rich]

He practically invented the DT position. He made the Pro Bowl several years despite the fact that he was playing on mediocre teams.

Merlin Olsen made it. Why not his Pro Bowl teammate Alex?

Anyone got an answer, because this one baffles me.
He was suspended for a year after admitting to placing bets on NFL games. He played for the Lions.

[Keino]

He practically invented the DT position. He made the Pro Bowl several years despite the fact that he was playing on mediocre teams.

Merlin Olsen made it. Why not his Pro Bowl teammate Alex?

Anyone got an answer, because this one baffles me.

The Hall of Fame voters hate the show Webster?

[Farmer Ted]

Sharpe got hosed last year when the voters decided to vote in Ralph Wilson at the last minute. Ralph Wilson, career loser. Yeah, that guy deserved to be enshrined. Anyway, I hope that Sharpe makes it in. Grimm deserves it, but there are too many flashy names on that list ahead of him. He does have Peter King on his side all-of-a-sudden, so that could make the difference for him. At least, it could get him into the round of 10, and he'll be beat out by Bud Adams (he should go in the HoF for his bird-flipping).

[cal_junior]

I hope Grimm gets in but I doubt it.

Peter King doesn't provide any reason for optimism:

"There's a maximum of five modern-era candidates who can be inducted each year; the two Senior men are voted on separately. With Jerry Rice and Emmitt Smith sure to be first-ballot players, that will leave three spots among the 13 other finalists, and I honestly cannot give you a good feeling about who will make it. I believe Don Coryell, Richard Dent, Cris Carter and Shannon Sharpe are close, but that guarantees them nothing."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/01/10/mmqb/index.html

[whiskeytown]

so do you guys think maybe Russ will get thru?
i'm hopeful but not too optimistic.

if you can help me out with pageviews, click my russ grimm link below, much appreciated!

[FunBunch5]

I would LOVE to see Chris Carter get snubbed for a decade or so. Just seeing him whine and cry about it every year would be priceless.

+1

Especially after last year, when he was going up against Monk and the classless jerk writes an article about why Monk shouldn't be in the Hall. I cannot find the article, I just remember it being posted in Yahoo Sports.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

I would LOVE to see Chris Carter get snubbed for a decade or so. Just seeing him whine and cry about it every year would be priceless.

Especially the way he gave Monk no respect at all. Chris Carter is no Art Monk or Jerry Rice. Good Luck to Russ, but there are alot of great players there, and usually Lineman are a second thought.

[nicefellow31]

Sharpe got hosed last year when the voters decided to vote in Ralph Wilson at the last minute. Ralph Wilson, career loser. Yeah, that guy deserved to be enshrined. Anyway, I hope that Sharpe makes it in. Grimm deserves it, but there are too many flashy names on that list ahead of him. He does have Peter King on his side all-of-a-sudden, so that could make the difference for him. At least, it could get him into the round of 10, and he'll be beat out by Bud Adams (he should go in the HoF for his bird-flipping).

I wouldn't go so far to call Ralph Wilson a career loser. He was a major player with the founding of the AFL and the Bills did win two AFL Championships.

[Skins7ny]

Grimm and Jacoby both made the team of the eighties, and have not received any recognition. There are only 16 Gs and 16 Ts for all nfl history that made all decade teams. How hard is that? And the furor over Monk. And the swooning over the 49ers players from the eighties vs us.

That he isn't in makes me sick. That Jacoby will never be in makes me ignore the process entirely.
I am with you on this. I have said for a long time that Jacoby is the Hog most deserving of enshrinement. Grimm is certainly deserving, but it baffles me that Jacoby gets no consideration. He truly revolutionized the position of offensive tackle, ushering in the era of the 300-lb. left tackle, and his battles with some of the RE's and 3-4 OLBs helped make marquees stars out of all 3 positions and make left tackle the premier position on the line. He owned every guy he faced in the toughest division in football (except LT), and there probably hasn't been a better run-blocking left tackle since he moved inside to make way for Lachey. He and Grimm should both be in representing the Hogs.
fox and espn both said that russ grimm is also a canidate for the buffalo bills head coaching job.
He should seriously consider taking it. His luster, such as it is, may take a hit with Leinart inheriting the starting job in Arizona. Grimm may never have a better opportunity to be a head coach.
He practically invented the DT position. He made the Pro Bowl several years despite the fact that he was playing on mediocre teams.
Merlin Olsen made it. Why not his Pro Bowl teammate Alex?
Anyone got an answer, because this one baffles me.
In my book, he should get it just for punching that horse in Blazing Saddles.
+1
Especially after last year, when he was going up against Monk and the classless jerk writes an article about why Monk shouldn't be in the Hall. I cannot find the article, I just remember it being posted in Yahoo Sports.
Carter has always been a pompous, classless jerk. I hope he gets stiffed the way Monk got stiffed for years. I would take Monk on my team over Carter 1,000 times over. There is a reason why Art has 3 rings and Carter has zero.

[Skins7ny]

I am going to take some abuse for saying this, but I can't honestly say that Grimm was a better G/C than Dawson was a C. Dawson was the best center in football for his entire career, taking over that mantle when Dwight Stephenson retired due to injury. Grimm and Dawson really both belong in the Hall.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

when are they gonna announce who made it this year?in the past they announced it at the pro bowl,since it's 2 weeks earlier this year who knows when they'll announce it?

[Fathead]

when are they gonna announce who made it this year?in the past they announced it at the pro bowl,since it's 2 weeks earlier this year who knows when they'll announce it?

What are you talking about? They always announce it the Saturday before the Super Bowl. Always.

[Too Many Weapons]

He practically invented the DT position. He made the Pro Bowl several years despite the fact that he was playing on mediocre teams.

Merlin Olsen made it. Why not his Pro Bowl teammate Alex?

Anyone got an answer, because this one baffles me.Mongo only pawn...in game of life.+1

Especially after last year, when he was going up against Monk and the classless jerk writes an article about why Monk shouldn't be in the Hall. I cannot find the article, I just remember it being posted in Yahoo Sports.Here you go (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cc-askcris101007&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

Wow. That slipped by me at the time. After reading that junk, put me on the anti-Cris team, too.

[Keino]

I am going to take some abuse for saying this, but I can't honestly say that Grimm was a better G/C than Dawson was a C. Dawson was the best center in football for his entire career, taking over that mantle when Dwight Stephenson retired due to injury. Grimm and Dawson really both belong in the Hall.


Grimm gets the nod in my opinion, because not only was he the best G in the NFL for (arguably) a decade, he was also versatile enough to play C when Bostic was injured and was damned good there too.

[flave1969]

Grimm is in. Yes. Yes. Yes

[Dept_of_Defense]

Finally!

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Wooooo! Just read the news!! Congrats to Russ! :typeR2:

[shally]

well deserved.. surprised he got in, but i think he gets in essentially as a representative for one of the best O lines ever.. i doubt anyone else will, although i personally think Jacoby belongs as well..

Dawson will get in..glad that Carter didnt..Dent should as well

[RedskinsDave]

FINALLY, a Hog is in the Hall of Fame!!

[IH Brave]

This day is starting to get better. First the snow stopped. Now Russ Grimm is in the Hall. Woohoo!!!!

[HAWGZHEAD]

Sweet! Congrats to Grimm!!

[cal_junior]

This thread title scares me. Oldskinfan knew almost a month ago that Russ Grim was in the Hall of Fame.

He must be a witch.

[hail2skins]

This is great news.

[hail2skins]

Time to start planning that trip

[IowaSkinsFan]

Time to start planning that trip

The only way it could be sweeter is if Russ didn't have to share the stage with a Cowboy......

[cal_junior]

The only way it could be sweeter is if Russ didn't have to share the stage with a Cowboy......

And a particularly annoying one at that. I can't wait to hear about Smith's "deceptive speed" and "balance" for a week straight leading up to the ceremony

[BigTex]

Well it's about time a Hog made it to Canton! I'm very happy for Grimm to finally get enshrined!

[28thegreat]

Wow, wow, wow! Awesome news. Glad for Grimm. Hogs in the Hall. Bout time!!!!

[fent]

Time to start planning that trip

you know it won't be ANYTHING like the last trip we all made out there...

[hail2skins]

The only way it could be sweeter is if Russ didn't have to share the stage with a Cowboy......Yeah but he's in and I don't care who he goes in with.

[hail2skins]

you know it won't be ANYTHING like the last trip we all made out there...Guess what I did already?

[fent]

Guess what I did already?

bought your tickets?

[hail2skins]

bought your tickets?Not that.

[hail2skins]

I booked a room just in case.

[oldskinfan]

Yessssss!!!!

[Keino]

Wow. That was unexpected. And about damned time!

[ClubSandwichGuy]

Awesome!! He really deserved it!

[jaylen]

About freaking time the most dominant line of the decade finally gets a player in. To have to beg and plead to get such a deserving member in finally is infuriating. Gibbs nor Riggo would be in without that powerful o line and Russ was a leader among them.

Congrats Russ Grimm this is very very sweet.

[Biggie]

Grimm is in. Yes. Yes. Yes
YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!

[skinfanjon]

I'm surprised, but congrats to Russ!! One of the alltime greats, for sure. Now he has the credentials to back it up.

[VegasSkinsFan]

Great to see a Hog get in !!!!!

[LATrueRedskin]

Wow! Finally a member of one of the greatest OLine's in history is in the hall. Congrats Russ!

[BurgundyNGold]

And a particularly annoying one at that. I can't wait to hear about Smith's "deceptive speed" and "balance" for a week straight leading up to the ceremony
I was watching some game not long ago and the announcer was talking about how Emmitt Smith had the best balance of any running back he had ever seen. Um, hello? Yeah, Barry Sanders on line 2 for you and his awesome balance is on lines 3 through 6.

[Axegrinder]

It's about time!
Congrats Russ!!!

[BurgundyNGold]

Oh, I forgot, lol. Congrats, Russ. You earned it... about 5 years ago, actually. Better late than never. Hopefully, Jake is right behind you.

[cal_junior]

Hopefully, Jake is right behind you.

Unfortunately I wouldn't bet on it

[BurgundyNGold]

Unfortunately I wouldn't bet on it
Yeah, me either, but I hope he is. I can totally see him making the senior class though. Unfortunately, that'll be in like 20 years, which isn't exactly "right behind" Grimm.

[cal_junior]

Yeah, me either, but I hope he is. I can totally see him making the senior class though. Unfortunately, that'll be in like 20 years, which isn't exactly "right behind" Grimm.

This was in an article written earlier in the week by HOF voter John Clayton:

It's hard to believe that "The Hogs," perhaps the best-known offensive line in NFL history, don't have a Hall of Famer. Grimm is the only member of that group with a chance of making it.

[WarEagle]

Wow! Finally a member of one of the greatest OLine's in history is in the hall. Congrats Russ!

+1
I can't wait for his speech.

[BurgundyNGold]

This was in an article written earlier in the week by HOF voter John Clayton:
He's probably right for now. I still think that Jacoby can make it as a senior. There's no time limit on that. It might be a distant future in which Harrison Ford is killing replicants and speaking Chinese to order noodles but it could still happen. I'm an optimist. ;)

[bigcmr]

The first Hog in!!!

[MDBluefinCrab]

Damn, great news! Congratulations Russ.

[SkinsKY]

I booked a room just in case.

Next to the cougar bar?

[hail2skins]

Next to the cougar bar?I'm old, which one was that? LOL.

[Keino]

It's one of those things where I know I didn't get to this point by myself. I tell that to people all the time. I was lucky enough to be drafted by a team with a new head coach that was giving young guys a chance to play. I was fortunate to play with great players, and we had to live up to that nickname they gave us when we got to our first Super Bowl. This is about all the success we had there.

Link Here (http://views.washingtonpost.com/theleague/nflnewsfeed/2010/02/grimm-elected-to-hall-of-fame.html)

Can you imagine if he had gotten in 2 years ago with DG and AM?

[Too Many Weapons]

We all knew Rice and Smith were locks. That left a few open spaces. I was hoping for Grimmy and each of the two Senior candidates along with anybody but Carter. All in all, a pretty good day.

[nicefellow31]

I'm late to this discussion but congrats to Russ Grimm. Joe Jacoby should be next.

[RedSkinBrit]

Congrats to Grimm,pleased to see him there.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Link Here (http://views.washingtonpost.com/theleague/nflnewsfeed/2010/02/grimm-elected-to-hall-of-fame.html)

Can you imagine if he had gotten in 2 years ago with DG and AM?

The standing ovation would still be going on right now..........

[44FAN]

Hell Yeah!!!! Time to change my sig again :D

[Ibleedburgundy]

And rightfully so. Grimm belongs. So does Jake IMO. I'm glad to see one of the greatest O-lines ever to play the game get some credit.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

Finally, Russ gets in, congratulations to Russ Grimm, the first Hog in the Hall. Now, let's get Jacoby in. And to top it off, Chris Carter got snubbed, that makes me so happy.

[flave1969]

I really hope Boss Hog introduces him, his passion would be fantastic.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

all the hogs deserve to be in the hall.i remember floyd little too.he was'nt really good enough for the HOF in my view.i thought shannen sharpe deserved the 1st ballott too.nice to see chris carter did'nt make it again!!!!:)

[Goskins11]

all i can say is that's freakin awesome! Congrats Russ...you desearve it! GO SKins!!

[dogfight6]

All right Hogs-Grimm first then lets get Jacoby in.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

i think the next redskinsto make it in the hall will be brian mitchell.if they put floyd little in there,BM should be.

[RedskinsDave]

So I have seen some Steelers fans crying about Grimm making it and Dawson not. Seeing Steelers fans cry about the Hall of Fame is like Bill Gates complaining about the cost of something.

[hail2skins]

I really hope Boss Hog introduces him, his passion would be fantastic.
Grimm already announced he would.

Here's the link at Redskins.com (http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Grimm_Says_Bugel_Will_Be_His_Presenter_In_Canton_1 03543.jsp)

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

So I have seen some Steelers fans crying about Grimm making it and Dawson not. Seeing Steelers fans cry about the Hall of Fame is like Bill Gates complaining about the cost of something.

i'm sick of steeler fans!!!

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

ole russ looked good out there before the coin toss did'nt he?

[frankez99]

Congrats Russ!

[skinsfan36]

congrats russ. well deserved and its about time.

[ESHuly]

I am not sure if any of you would like to join us but a group of us are going to HOF.

Here is the link to what pez (my husband) has created so far and there is a thread on ES about it.

http://www.netpez.net/

It should be a good time. If you have any questions please let me know.

HTTR

[Skins7ny]

Congratulations to Russ Grimm on his overdue and well-deserved honor. I hope that Jacoby gets consideration next, although I am not holding my breath. I strongly believe that Jacoby deserves to be in. all the hogs deserve to be in the hall.i remember floyd little too.he was'nt really good enough for the HOF in my view.i thought shannen sharpe deserved the 1st ballott too.nice to see chris carter did'nt make it again!!!!:)
Chris Who?
So I have seen some Steelers fans crying about Grimm making it and Dawson not. Seeing Steelers fans cry about the Hall of Fame is like Bill Gates complaining about the cost of something.
LOL! We should have more guys in from our glory era. To me, Jacoby is the most glaring ommision. If there was a HOF for blocking TEs, Donny Warren would be in it. Mann and Manley are arguable. Dave Butz could have been a HOFer had he applied himself more. Jim Lachey deserves to be in, but may not have enough years in the league to get consideration. And Beathard deserves some consideration, for his work here and also for his work in Miami and San Diego. Drafting Leaf hurt his repuation, but a lot of other guys would have taken Leaf that year as well. In fact if Pollian had taken Leaf instead, Beathard might already be in.

[BraveHeartFan]

I wanted to get by here for a handful of days now and just haven't had the time but I definately wanted to say congrats to Skins fans on Russ finally getting into the Hall. The guy certainly deserved to be in.

This was a great, very deserving, class.