McCoy, too...

[Gravy]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/02/colt-mccoy-to-visit-redskins-too/

Whatever...

[shally]

he had a very fine work out.. he is a winner over a career.. he will likely be available when the Redskins pick in round 2..

maybe we go Okung/Bulaga and then either McCoy or Snead ?

[CarMike]

If we had had a plan 3 or 4 years ago, the Redskins would have the chance to draft for wants, not needs.

That's how teams create depth. It'll be nice when we can approach the draft like other teams that win.

[tuckahoeskin]

Given the choice between Clausen or McCoy, I'd rather have McCoy. I just have a hunch he'll find success in the league while Claussen is flaming out. When you also factor in Claussen at #4 and McCoy in the second round, that further tips it.

I don't think McCoy is going to put a team on his back, but I think he can manage a good team. We need a quarterback who makes smart, quick decisions, has a good (not great) arm, and has the type of personal characteristics that other players will play hard for -- a leader. I see Claussen as a punk. McCoy, I think, will work hard and earn player's trust.

[cal_junior]

maybe we go Okung/Bulaga and then either McCoy or Snead ?

I like this much, much more than trading anything to move up and get Bradford.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

i'd take anybody over clausen.i think the only qb worth a 1st rounder this season appears to be bradford.
nobody will know till he takes a blindside hit on that twice repaired shoulder.

[BurgundyNGold]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/02/colt-mccoy-to-visit-redskins-too/

Whatever...
Great comments on that article lol.

I wouldn't mind selecting McCoy in the 2nd (or trade down in the 2nd and get him later) if -- and only if -- we get a LT in the 1st. Getting a young QB to learn under JC for a year isn't a bad thing. The problem with McCoy is the same problem we wondered about JC for about 4 years. Does he have "it"? I don't know, but I suppose we'd find out.

[oldskinfan]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/02/colt-mccoy-to-visit-redskins-too/

Whatever...

"Four years ago, when Redskins coach Mike Shanahan traded up to get quarterback Jay Cutler with the eleventh overall pick, Cutler did not make a pre-draft visit to Denver."

And comment from a reader:

"Maybe Shanny learned his lesson with Cutler. Bring 'em in for a visit to make sure they are not whiny little bitches."

LOL

[FunBunch5]

I like this much, much more than trading anything to move up and get Bradford.

Agreed, if Bradford is available at 4, then I would hope they take him and not draft the linemen. However, if he is not lineman first McCoy second is what I hope they do. I think McCoy can be another Drew Brees....Of course I am the one that said Patrick Ramsey could be the next Dan Marino. :smash:

[silverspring]

The problem with McCoy is the same problem we wondered about JC for about 4 years. Does he have "it"? I don't know, but I suppose we'd find out.

Exactly my concerns. He essentially has JC potential and since we already have one JC do we want a second?

[ClubSandwichGuy]

Given the choice between Clausen or McCoy, I'd rather have McCoy. I just have a hunch he'll find success in the league while Claussen is flaming out. When you also factor in Claussen at #4 and McCoy in the second round, that further tips it.

I don't think McCoy is going to put a team on his back, but I think he can manage a good team. We need a quarterback who makes smart, quick decisions, has a good (not great) arm, and has the type of personal characteristics that other players will play hard for -- a leader. I see Claussen as a punk. McCoy, I think, will work hard and earn player's trust.
I agree. All the natural talent in the world means nothing if you don't work hard at it. And I don't see Clausen as a hard worker. But McCoy is.

[Gravy]

...Hey how did McCoy look at his pro day...what has been said or has he been idle?

[STaylor#21]

...Hey how did McCoy look at his pro day...what has been said or has he been idle?

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/football/cowboys/stories/040110dnspoblogcollutmccoy.201753b35.html

The most important part being:

Green Bay coach Mike McCarthy watched Bradford on Monday and was present for McCoy's exhibition today. His thoughts on the two:

"I like this workout better from the fact, I thought Colt was challenged more in his workouts as far as the type of throws,'' McCarthy said. "I thought in Sam's workout, he was very accurate, but Sam's workout was very controlled. He didn't do as much movement and as many driving throws, in my opinion.

"I thought Colt's workout was more challenging. He had the more down the field, driving type throws, which personally, I always look for because I think you get more information out of those.''

[ChiefPowhatan17]

I like the idea of Okung/McCoy more than Clausen/Brown.....

[IowaSkinsFan]

Great comments on that article lol.

I wouldn't mind selecting McCoy in the 2nd (or trade down in the 2nd and get him later) if -- and only if -- we get a LT in the 1st. Getting a young QB to learn under JC for a year isn't a bad thing. The problem with McCoy is the same problem we wondered about JC for about 4 years. Does he have "it"? I don't know, but I suppose we'd find out.

I think he's a gamer, just lacks the physical prowess to be an elite QB, IMO. He lacks Campbell's physical gifts while JC lacks his "it" factor, IMO.

[jaylen]

I think he's a gamer, just lacks the physical prowess to be an elite QB, IMO. He lacks Campbell's physical gifts while JC lacks his "it" factor, IMO.

I agree he doesn't seem to have a strong enough arm to make the long throws or the deep outs. But he does have the gamer factor he competes and has some elusiveness.

In the 2nd rd McCoy is a solid choice.

[BurgundyNGold]

"Four years ago, when Redskins coach Mike Shanahan traded up to get quarterback Jay Cutler with the eleventh overall pick, Cutler did not make a pre-draft visit to Denver."

And comment from a reader:

"Maybe Shanny learned his lesson with Cutler. Bring 'em in for a visit to make sure they are not whiny little bitches."

LOL
Yeah, those types of comments are what I meant. There are some pretty funny ones.

Like this one...
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7974/pftmccoycomments1.png

... from "Rex Grossman" lol.

And these:
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8935/pftmccoycomments2.png

... the top one invoking George Costanza's philosophy of the opposite lol.

[ph33rtheD]

for whatever reason colt reminds me of a rich mans charlie frye *shrugs

[coffdogg]

I like this much, much more than trading anything to move up and get Bradford.I agree 100 %

[skinsfan36]

i think mccoy could be a solid 2nd round pick. i like bradford more and i still like snead until shanny.

[redskin_rich]

I don't like any of this year's class of QB's. McCoy is Jason Campbell, minus the size, durability and seasoning but with better accuracy and leadership. So basically, we'd be embarking on another 4 year project.

[shally]

I don't like any of this year's class of QB's. McCoy is Jason Campbell, minus the size, durability and seasoning but with better accuracy and leadership. So basically, we'd be embarking on another 4 year project.

i dont see a lot of similarities between Campbell and McCoy, do you ?

McCoy has had a single coordinator and has won consistently. he is much smaller and less durable, but has better accuracy. the arm strength isnt even close. no one ever accused McCoy of being a laidback leader.. other than playing for a winning program, what is the similarity ??

[Hr fan]

The "it" factor - we are looking for a savior ala Peyton Manning. There just isn't one in this draft class. McCoy has won while taking a beating, in that regard he is like JC. IMO using #37 on him is really reaching for a talent best used as a long term backup.

[skinsfan36]

i dont see a lot of similarities between Campbell and McCoy, do you ?

McCoy has had a single coordinator and has won consistently. he is much smaller and less durable, but has better accuracy. the arm strength isnt even close. no one ever accused McCoy of being a laidback leader.. other than playing for a winning program, what is the similarity ??

mccoy is more comparable to kyle orton

[cactusjack]

Ok as someone who lives in Texas and is force feed UT every week........We want no part of this kid. He lacks size, arm strength and when pressured his accuracy goes out the window. Trust me on this, he is in no way shape or form a quality caliber qb in the NFL. We would be much better off with a Snead, Tebow or the kid from Central Michigan. I am all for OL at 4 hell I say OL at 37 too. But please don't try to sell me on McCoy is the 2nd best qb in this draft.

[redskin_rich]

i dont see a lot of similarities between Campbell and McCoy, do you ?

McCoy has had a single coordinator and has won consistently. he is much smaller and less durable, but has better accuracy. the arm strength isnt even close. no one ever accused McCoy of being a laidback leader.. other than playing for a winning program, what is the similarity ??

Project. We'll have a new coach still trying to figure out if this kid is starting material.

[shally]

Project. We'll have a new coach still trying to figure out if this kid is starting material.

okay.. if that is so you could also add Snead, Lefevour, Kafka, Pike and just about every other QB in this years draft other than Bradford and Clausen.

[redskin_rich]

okay.. if that is so you could also add Snead, Lefevour, Kafka, Pike and just about every other QB in this years draft other than Bradford and Clausen.

The similarity was a tongue and cheek remark that I thought was made clear when I listed the vast differences. The one thing in common is McCoy, 4 years from now will be like what we have in Campbell now. Why start over just to eventually be in the same place?

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

i think shanny has been around enough qbs in his career as a coach to tell whether or not he has the talent and guts to be a good starting qb in the nfl.i really like JC,but evidently shanny just does'nt like what he sees in him.

[BurgundyNGold]

The similarity was a tongue and cheek remark that I thought was made clear when I listed the vast differences. The one thing in common is McCoy, 4 years from now will be like what we have in Campbell now. Why start over just to eventually be in the same place?
This is pretty much my thinking. I don't particularly care for any of the current QB crop -- much less enough to trade up for any of them. McCoy might be worth a 2nd if we drafted an OT in the first, but I wouldn't even want to take that risk, honestly. I think McCoy has enough question marks to let him go by.

That said, if we traded down from 4 and picked up 2 OL or two needed starters in the 1st, I wouldn't have a problem drafting McCoy if he was there in the 2nd. At that point, he'd be worth the risk because we would have hedged our bets by picking up 2 potential starters before we got to the 2nd round.

[CapitalDefense]

If we had had a plan 3 or 4 years ago, the Redskins would have the chance to draft for wants, not needs.

That's how teams create depth. It'll be nice when we can approach the draft like other teams that win.

Agree 100%, hopefully Shanny and Allen will covet the draft picks a little bit more.

[Battle Cat]

Ok as someone who lives in Texas and is force feed UT every week........We want no part of this kid. He lacks size, arm strength and when pressured his accuracy goes out the window. Trust me on this, he is in no way shape or form a quality caliber qb in the NFL. We would be much better off with a Snead, Tebow or the kid from Central Michigan. I am all for OL at 4 hell I say OL at 37 too. But please don't try to sell me on McCoy is the 2nd best qb in this draft.
I think that says more about this draft than about Mccoy. I don't like any of the qbs in this draft. I don't care for Bradford or Clausen or McCoy. Not a strong arm in the bunch and 2 spread option college qbs which is always rolling the dice. If based on the average past draft years I don't think any of these guys would go in the 1st round.