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cal_junior
04-08-2010, 10:36 AM
I'll begin with this disappointing tweet from Schefter (http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/11828955772):

"The fact that's it's nearly mid-day Thursday and there's no NFL regular-season schedule yet suggests announcement will come next week."

Boooo.

whiskeytown
04-08-2010, 10:41 AM
we know NO hosts thursday night and their most intriguing opponents are Minnesota and Pittsburgh.
but Ben could be suspsended.... and Favre could be retired (tho i'd be AH's check that he's coming back).

maybe they're fiddling around trying to move Philly-Wash to sunday night.

NY Jets supposed to host one of the MNF games week 1.


but yea, get on with it already!

BIGREDSKINSFAN1963
04-08-2010, 11:32 AM
i just hope that the skins don't get stuck playing the giants in new york week 1 again!nbc is stupid if they don't go after a skins/eagles game in the 1st month!

cal_junior
04-10-2010, 08:56 AM
Rumors are that the schedule will be released on Tuesday.

Supposedly first Monday night game will be a playoff rematch with Cincy at the Jets to open that new stadium.

The Skinsinator
04-10-2010, 10:02 AM
i just hope that the skins don't get stuck playing the giants in new york week 1 again!nbc is stupid if they don't go after a skins/eagles game in the 1st month!Aikman said a little birdie informed either Skins/Girls or Skins/Eagles to open the season. Talk about opening with a bang if true!

cal_junior
04-10-2010, 10:11 AM
Aikman said a little birdie informed either Skins/Girls or Skins/Eagles to open the season. Talk about opening with a bang if true!

Skins/Eagles to open the season would be silly-awesome. I can't even imagine . . .

whiskeytown
04-10-2010, 01:20 PM
word is Big Ben wont be charged monday.... so Pitt is in play for thursday night at NO but i think it will be Minny.

i'd heard a pitt @ baltimore for MNF week 1, but that was weeks before NYJ was mentioned so that's likely a nogo as the late mNF will be out west.

i'd say wash/philly seems likely for sun.night then.

cal_junior
04-14-2010, 12:15 PM
Schefter (http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/12173969685) thinks it will be out tomorrow.

UPDATE: JLC (http://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/12174693717) says it will be out Tuesday at 7pm

BIGREDSKINSFAN1963
04-15-2010, 04:57 PM
it's coming out tuesday at 5pm.

cal_junior
04-16-2010, 12:34 PM
it's coming out tuesday at 5pm.

According to who? Everything I've seen is 7pm

whiskeytown
04-16-2010, 12:46 PM
well i guess the Broncos schedule comes out at 5pm local time....

LadyNRedskinsfan
04-16-2010, 12:50 PM
It will be unveiled at 7pm EST, but like all other years prior, it'll be leaked somewhere I bet...

cal_junior
04-20-2010, 10:05 AM
On Mike and Mike this morning RG confirmed what we already knew: All Week 17 games will be division games.

Schedule out at 7pm: Do we get Philly on a Monday night or a Sunday night? Or both?

BurgundyNGold
04-20-2010, 10:08 AM
On Mike and Mike this morning RG confirmed what we already knew: All Week 17 games will be division games.

Schedule out at 7pm: Do we get Philly on a Monday night or a Sunday night? Or both?
I really hope we don't get a lot of night games. This team has sucked at night games since forever. Maybe in 2011, but not this year.

cal_junior
04-20-2010, 10:18 AM
I really hope we don't get a lot of night games. This team has sucked at night games since forever. Maybe in 2011, but not this year.

I agree, but don't think the NFL will be able to pass on McNabb vs. the Eagles during primetime. My guess is our trip there will be a Monday night game.

BurgundyNGold
04-20-2010, 10:37 AM
I agree, but don't think the NFL will be able to pass on McNabb vs. the Eagles during primetime. My guess is our trip there will be a Monday night game.
Ugh. You're probably right, unfortunately. It will make for good drama, but we always play so crappy under the lights... I'd be just as pleased to have a nationally televised 4:00p game on a Sunday.

whiskeytown
04-20-2010, 10:42 AM
i dont buy into trends like playing bad historically in night games. makes no sense when considering that just McNabb and Shanahan are 2 major changes to this team.
it's like saying a team is 9-1 in their last 10 against the lions. well, most teams are!

or if the Pats had won 7 MNF game in a row but then played the next one without Brady....

BurgundyNGold
04-20-2010, 10:54 AM
i dont buy into trends like playing bad historically in night games. makes no sense when considering that just McNabb and Shanahan are 2 major changes to this team.
it's like saying a team is 9-1 in their last 10 against the lions. well, most teams are!

or if the Pats had won 7 MNF game in a row but then played the next one without Brady....
If it were mere superstition, like wearing white on white or whatever, I'd be with you. But the recent history of this team under the last 2 coaches has seen the Redskins perform poorly in night games -- especially at home. It's part of the culture that Shanny and McHero have to change, for sure, but ignoring recent history doesn't help.

LadyNRedskinsfan
04-20-2010, 11:02 AM
Any schedule leaks out yet?

whiskeytown
04-20-2010, 11:18 AM
If it were mere superstition, like wearing white on white or whatever, I'd be with you. But the recent history of this team under the last 2 coaches has seen the Redskins perform poorly in night games -- especially at home. It's part of the culture that Shanny and McHero have to change, for sure, but ignoring recent history doesn't help.


true, but like you said: under the last 2 coaches. and obvioulsy different QBs.

also, night games were likely against better competition and we have been a relatively poor team for the last several years. were they home or away? so many factors i really dont think much can be made of it.
what's McNabb's record in primetime? Shanny's? again, THOSE numbers wont matter either as McNabb was on a different team and shanny was in denver. did he have Elway that night? was he at home against the crappy recent raiders? or on the road against the good raiders?

the fact is, the redskins W-L record on sundays at 1pm and 4pm hasn't been very good either.

so with all those variables it does become as superstitious as wearing white.

BurgundyNGold
04-20-2010, 11:33 AM
true, but like you said: under the last 2 coaches. and obvioulsy different QBs.
At least 3 differnt QBs, yes.

also, night games were likely against better competition and we have been a relatively poor team for the last several years. were they home or away? so many factors i really dont think much can be made of it.
Not really. We've lost night games at home in recent years to teams we should have beaten.

what's McNabb's record in primetime? Shanny's? again, THOSE numbers wont matter either as McNabb was on a different team and shanny was in denver. did he have Elway that night? was he at home against the crappy recent raiders? or on the road against the good raiders?

the fact is, the redskins W-L record on sundays at 1pm and 4pm hasn't been very good either.

so with all those variables it does become as superstitious as wearing white.
Except that the winning percentage for the Redskins in recent years is worse at night than it is during the day. That's not superstition, that's just how things have played out.

Fathead
04-20-2010, 11:40 AM
Gibbs 2.0 wasn't that bad at night. Zorn was 0-for the show though.

BurgundyNGold
04-20-2010, 11:49 AM
Gibbs 2.0 wasn't that bad at night. Zorn was 0-for the show though.
Not that bad overall (6-6), but awful at FedEx (2-5). Add in the last two years of Zornanigans and you've got a pretty bad night record, especially at home.

whiskeytown
04-20-2010, 12:37 PM
We've lost night games at home in recent years to teams we should have beaten.

i'm sure we did.... but we must admit the skins have been piss poor for much of the last few years. so "should have beaten" is tough to define when in fact we really did lose to the Lions, almost lost to the Rams, lost to the Chiefs, etc etc.... so really, there is NO team in the league that could accurately be described as "should have beaten."



Except that the winning percentage for the Redskins in recent years is worse at night than it is during the day. That's not superstition, that's just how things have played out.

ok. but that still brings me back to the fact that this team is being led by Shanny and McNabb, not Zorn/Gibbs2 and Campbell et al.


you could say that over the last 20-30 years that the Raiders have a good record on MNF... it's still just a trend/stat, and this raiders team sucks and will likely lose their next night game.

BIGREDSKINSFAN1963
04-20-2010, 12:55 PM
Not that bad overall (6-6), but awful at FedEx (2-5). Add in the last two years of Zornanigans and you've got a pretty bad night record, especially at home.

got a pretty bad record period.

Fathead
04-20-2010, 01:07 PM
Not that bad overall (6-6), but awful at FedEx (2-5). Add in the last two years of Zornanigans and you've got a pretty bad night record, especially at home.

I still wouldn't say for the last 2 coaches. Zorn deserves his own classification of awful.

BurgundyNGold
04-20-2010, 01:54 PM
i'm sure we did.... but we must admit the skins have been piss poor for much of the last few years. so "should have beaten" is tough to define when in fact we really did lose to the Lions, almost lost to the Rams, lost to the Chiefs, etc etc.... so really, there is NO team in the league that could accurately be described as "should have beaten."
When you're better than a team, you should beat them. We were better than the Lions, we should have beaten them. There is no point in overthinking that pretty basic principle, otherwise you're saying that nobody should ever be expected to beat anybody, which is patently false.

ok. but that still brings me back to the fact that this team is being led by Shanny and McNabb, not Zorn/Gibbs2 and Campbell et al.
I expect better play out of those players, but I don't expect the loser attitudes or lack of skill to go away overnight just because there is a new coach. We have to replace more than just Shanny and McGod to become a good team, or even a team that should expect to do better than 8-8.

you could say that over the last 20-30 years that the Raiders have a good record on MNF... it's still just a trend/stat, and this raiders team sucks and will likely lose their next night game.
Not an apt example. None of the players who made the Raiders good 30 or even 20 years ago are still on the roster. Many of the players from the Gibbs era are still on the team and the sizeable majority of the 53 players from last year's team is still on the roster.

BurgundyNGold
04-20-2010, 01:55 PM
I still wouldn't say for the last 2 coaches. Zorn deserves his own classification of awful.
That's true, but 2-5 at FedEx ain't gonna win too many beauty pageants.

Fathead
04-20-2010, 01:59 PM
That's true, but 2-5 at FedEx ain't gonna win too many beauty pageants.


As someone who doesn't have tickets at the moment, I don't care where the wins come. I'm sure my attitude will change in a couple of years.

whiskeytown
04-20-2010, 02:08 PM
Not an apt example. None of the players who made the Raiders good 30 or even 20 years ago are still on the roster. Many of the players from the Gibbs era are still on the team and the sizeable majority of the 53 players from last year's team is still on the roster.


okay, maybe not exactly... but it's similar: this is a different team, different year, different circumstances, in some cases different opponents. so if my raiders-mnf example was Apples to Cheeseburgers, "the redskins aren't good at night" is still apples to oranges.

the 2007 patriots had won 18 games in a row, home and away, regs and playoffs, against scrubs and contenders.... then the same team, which still had a lot of the same personnel (including qb and coach) that had won 3 super bowls in a row, lost to a team they were double-digit favorites over. why? how? the trend(s) were so clearly in favor of the pats winning. 18 consecutive games plus 3 consecutive superbowls. but it was just a trend and anything can happen on any given sunday...

BIGREDSKINSFAN1963
04-20-2010, 02:14 PM
thursday night game
vikings at saints to kick off the 2010 regular season.

BurgundyNGold
04-20-2010, 02:26 PM
okay, maybe not exactly... but it's similar: this is a different team, different year, different circumstances, in some cases different opponents. so if my raiders-mnf example was Apples to Cheeseburgers, "the redskins aren't good at night" is still apples to oranges.
Until they win at night, they still suck at night, especially at FedEx. And since they suck at night, you can't blame someone for hoping they don't get too many night games, especially at FedEx.

the 2007 patriots had won 18 games in a row, home and away, regs and playoffs, against scrubs and contenders.... then the same team, which still had a lot of the same personnel (including qb and coach) that had won 3 super bowls in a row, lost to a team they were double-digit favorites over. why? how? the trend(s) were so clearly in favor of the pats winning. 18 consecutive games plus 3 consecutive superbowls. but it was just a trend and anything can happen on any given sunday...
Fate vs. Free will? You should check out the "Lost" thread lol. ;)

The "Any Given Sunday" concept is the exception, not the rule. Usually, the better team wins, just like they're supposed to.

whiskeytown
04-20-2010, 02:36 PM
Until they win at night, they still suck at night, especially at FedEx. And since they suck at night, you can't blame someone for hoping they don't get too many night games, especially at FedEx.

well yea... of course. i'm just saying it's only a trend, the recent history and will likely have NO bearing on how we fare in prime time this year. it wont. that's like hoping we dont get put on the schedule at all cuz we'll be 4-12.


The "Any Given Sunday" concept is the exception, not the rule. Usually, the better team wins, just like they're supposed to.

true. and it's my belief that Shanahan and McNabb (plus revamped OL featuring a blue-chip #4 overall pick) make us a MUCH better team this coming year.

Fathead
04-20-2010, 02:55 PM
Can't we all just agree that Zorn sucked hardcore?

whiskeytown
04-20-2010, 03:06 PM
yea, and maybe Cal wants to start a new 2010 Schedule thread.....




but i'm still right.

CarMike
04-20-2010, 03:30 PM
A buddy of mine who's a Saints fan emailed me their schedule. He's not certain it's legit but I thought I'd share it with you guys anyways.

Hopefully, the Redskins will leak out soon.

Sep 9th Vikings @ home 7:30
Sep 20th @ 49ers 5:30 pt
Sep 26th Atlanta @ home noon
Oct 3rd Carolina @ home noon
Oct 10th @ Arizona 1:00 pt
Oct 17th @ Tampa 1:00 et
Oct 24th Cleveland @ home noon
Oct 31st Steelers @ home 7:20
Nov 7th @ Carolina 1:00 et
Nov 14th bye
Nov 21st Seattle @ home 3:05
Nov 25th @ Cowgirls ( Thanksgiving Day ) 3:00
Dec 5th @ Bengals 1:00 et
Dec 12th St.Louis @ home 3:05
Dec 19th @ Ravens 1:00 et
Dec 27th @ Dirty birds 7:30 et
Jan 2nd Tampa @ home noon

No surprise that the Saints are playing the Vikings to open the season. That was all but a given IMO.

whiskeytown
04-20-2010, 03:42 PM
Steelers schedule has allegedly leaked as well

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/20/leak-of-steelers-schedule-puts-saints-game-against-world-series/

The Skinsinator
04-20-2010, 03:49 PM
Here is a leak about our primetime games. Looks like we are going to open up at home against Dallas Sunday night. :)

#Redskins2010Schedule , 3 prime time games : week 1- Sunday night (H) DAL, week 6 - Sunday night (H) INDY, week 10 MNF (H) PHI

BurgundyNGold
04-20-2010, 03:57 PM
Here is a leak about our primetime games. Looks like we are going to open up at home against Dallas Sunday night. :)

#Redskins2010Schedule , 3 prime time games : week 1- Sunday night (H) DAL, week 6 - Sunday night (H) INDY, week 10 MNF (H) PHI
3 home games, 2 against division foes. Awesome.

What about London? That's the one I want to hear about. ;)

whiskeytown
04-20-2010, 03:58 PM
Skins SKED: DAL (snf), HOU, @STL, @PHI, GB, IND (snf), @CHI, @DET, BYE, PHI (mnf), @TEN, MIN, @NYG, TB, @DAL, @JAX, NYG

BurgundyNGold
04-20-2010, 04:05 PM
Skins SKED: DAL (snf), HOU, @STL, @PHI, GB, IND (snf), @CHI, @DET, BYE, PHI (mnf), @TEN, MIN, @NYG, TB, @DAL, @JAX, NYG
I'm hoping the Indy game is in London. My miles are burning a hole in my pocket.

DaveKShape
04-20-2010, 04:35 PM
Vertically organized schedule:

9/12 - Dallas Cowboys (Sunday Night Football)
9/19 - Houston Texans
9/26 - @ St. Louis Rams
10/3 - @ Philadelphia Eagles
10/10 - Green Bay Packers
10/17 - Indianapolis Colts (Sunday Night Football - possibly in London)
10/24 - @ Chicago Bears
10/31 - @ Detroit Lions
11/7 - Bye
11/15 - Philadelphia Eagles (Monday Night Football)
11/21 - @ Tennesee Titans
11/28 - Minnesota Vikings
12/5 - @ New York Giants
12/12 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
12/19 - @ Dallas Cowboys
12/26 - @ Jacksonville Jaguars
1/2 - New York Giants

BurgundyNGold
04-20-2010, 04:44 PM
Vertically organized schedule:

9/12 - Dallas Cowboys (Sunday Night Football)
9/19 - Houston Texans
9/26 - @ St. Louis Rams
10/3 - @ Philadelphia Eagles
10/10 - Green Bay Packers
10/17 - Indianapolis Colts (Sunday Night Football - possibly in London)
10/24 - @ Chicago Bears
10/31 - @ Detroit Lions
11/7 - Bye
11/15 - Philadelphia Eagles (Monday Night Football)
11/21 - @ Tennesee Titans
11/28 - Minnesota Vikings
12/5 - @ New York Giants
12/12 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
12/19 - @ Dallas Cowboys
12/26 - @ Jacksonville Jaguars
1/2 - New York Giants
All in all, this isn't that tough of a schedule. It appears that most of our tough non-divisional opponents (Indy. Green Bay, Minny) are at home. Tennessee seems to be the only good non-divisional opponent (and I apply the term "good" loosely) that we have to play on the road. 8-8 is certainly doable.

whiskeytown
04-20-2010, 07:59 PM
oh, looky there, 4 of the Vikes last 5 games (winter) are in a dome (at home or at detroit). nice lil gift from the NFL to Lord Favre.

Fathead
04-20-2010, 08:05 PM
The NFL hates the Dolphins. They get hosed out of home games in September every year.

BurgundyNGold
04-20-2010, 08:13 PM
The NFL hates the Dolphins. They get hosed out of home games in September every year.
Same with Arizona before their new stadium. There's something about 95 degree heat that other teams don't like. ;)

redskin_rich
04-20-2010, 10:53 PM
The NFL hates the Dolphins. They get hosed out of home games in September every year.

Same with Arizona before their new stadium. There's something about 95 degree heat that other teams don't like. ;)

They get their payback by getting to host a Superbowl every 5 years or so.