hR Official Caps playoff thread

[CarMike]

Since we're entering the 2nd season, thought it would be a good idea to start a new thread to follow our Caps through the playoffs.

Can't wait till tomorrow night!

[cal_junior]

Aaaaaand, the DC bad luck has officially begun. Caps say Lars is "questionable" for Game 1.

LINK (http://twitter.com/TarikElBashir/status/12110010943)

[CarMike]

Aaaaaand, the DC bad luck has officially begun. Caps say Lars is "questionable" for Game 1.

LINK (http://twitter.com/TarikElBashir/status/12110010943)

You have gotta be kidding me! He hasn't missed a game in his three years with the Caps, and now he gets hurt heading into the playoffs???

Good grief.

[cal_junior]

Oh goodie! Tarik says word at practice (http://twitter.com/TarikElBashir/status/12113416137) is that Ovie "isn't 100 percent" but will still play.

Tell me again why all our best players played against Boston? LeBron James is sitting out four games to rest-up for the playoffs, but apparently Ovie and Lars can't miss a single period.

[ihatedallas]

I think the Backstrom thing is BS. Early this morning Boudreau said he picked up an injury in the Boston game and then later today he said he has an illness? I think its a way of letting his star center rest after playing all 82 games and the Olympics. It also went from questionable to probable by mid afternoon...

Ovi is probably banged up, but he was practicing, and he brings the same thing to the table even when playing hurt. Both will play Thursday, and both will look as if nothings wrong.

[Minnesota Mike]

It's the playoffs. Everybody is banged up and everybody will play.

That is what I love about the NHL Playoffs!

[ihatedallas]

He's practicing this morning and so is Ovechkin...just an off day yesterday.

[cal_junior]

He's practicing this morning and so is Ovechkin...just an off day yesterday.

Phew

[Ibleedburgundy]

Just found out I am going to game one. Wooohooo!!!!

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

Guys, I hate to say this but I was watching the Caps/Habs game and after the loss they focused on an unhappy Caps fan and he would have looked right at home wearing an Eagles jersey at the Linc. I hope that he isn't indicative of all Caps fans.
Big upset though I still think the Caps win the series. Just too much talent for the Habs.

[csquared]

Guys, I hate to say this but I was watching the Caps/Habs game and after the loss they focused on an unhappy Caps fan and he would have looked right at home wearing an Eagles jersey at the Linc. I hope that he isn't indicative of all Caps fans.
Big upset though I still think the Caps win the series. Just too much talent for the Habs.

Every team has ahole fans. That includes our very own.

[shally]

uh-oh....

[cal_junior]

The only positive is that the Habs aren't a particularly great team at home (20-16-5). Back-to-back wins in games 3 and 4 would not be strange.

But obviously if the offense doesn't kick it into gear . . .

[RedskinsDave]

Just found out I am going to game one. Wooohooo!!!!

Jinx.

[Ibleedburgundy]

Before this the Caps were 6-0 in games I have gone to. Oh well. It was a crappy ending.

BTW, I didn't see any of this Eagles-fan-like behavior. After the Habs scored that everyone was like "damn it!" And then we left. Pretty standard stuff.

[ihatedallas]

Dominated in every way possible besides goals...

[CarMike]

Our defensive guys need to step it up. Can't give up that much clear ice on rushes and expect to not give up some goals. Play the body and not the puck in those instances.

Hopefully this'll wake the guys up.

[cal_junior]

Dominated in every way possible besides goals...

Maybe in the first period. The rest of the game was relatively even.

Most of the Caps played mediocre and Ovie was a no-show. Given those factors it took OT for Montreal to win. Gimme a 5-2 'W' on Saturday night and I'll start feeling better about things.

Still shocked they lost at home with Theo playing great. Never saw that coming.

[ihatedallas]

Maybe in the first period. The rest of the game was relatively even.

Most of the Caps played mediocre and Ovie was a no-show. Given those factors it took OT for Montreal to win. Gimme a 5-2 'W' on Saturday night and I'll start feeling better about things.

Still shocked they lost at home with Theo playing great. Never saw that coming.

Wasn't just OVI, Green was pushing way too much, trying to make a special play to redeem himself...the way to do that is play a simple game. Semin and Ovi were struggling getting the puck off their sticks. If the Russians can get some shots, not necessarily even points, the game changes for everyone.

I thought Belanger and Knuble had great games, as expected. Belanger's faceoffs and decisions with the puck were excellent.

Our Star players need to put in the same work as our role players, and we're fine...

What surprised me was even with all the talk and even the examples of last year and Wednesdays game..they still played the game mostly flat, making lazy plays.

[cal_junior]

What surprised me was even with all the talk and even the examples of last year and Wednesdays game..they still played the game mostly flat, making lazy plays.

Agreed. My hope is that it's just hard for athletes to flip the switch after coasting for the last month of the season.

Someone I respect said they think in the first round of the Stanley Cup playoffs Game 2 is more telling than Game 1. We'll see . . .

[ihatedallas]

Agreed. My hope is that it's just hard for athletes to flip the switch after coasting for the last month of the season.

Someone I respect said they think in the first round of the Stanley Cup playoffs Game 2 is more telling than Game 1. We'll see . . .

I'd believe that. I think the 1st game the pressure isn't even for both teams, or the motivation. That and all of the top seeds who lost Wednesday came back and got a win last night...hope it continues.

[cal_junior]

I'd believe that. I think the 1st game the pressure isn't even for both teams, or the motivation. That and all of the top seeds who lost Wednesday came back and got a win last night...hope it continues.

7 hours from the puck dropping and I'm already nervous. If the Caps lose tonight I may drink myself into a coma.

[ihatedallas]

7 hours from the puck dropping and I'm already nervous. If the Caps lose tonight I may drink myself into a coma.

Me too. I knew since 10 on thursday the next 48 hours would be sooo slow. I just want them to go out there, play their game, and get a solid win...

[CarMike]

5-2 Caps

[cal_junior]

I just want them to go out there, play their game, and get a solid win...

Not solid, but at least a win. I'll be fascinated to see how they look in Montreal

[redskin_rich]

The Caps made a miraculous recovery tonight. Good to know that there is a team here and not a bunch of individuals reliant on a few individuals.

[InsomniaKiller]

I'm still in awe. Our rookie defenseman is amazing, and the first line, led by Nicklas ComeBackstrom, make up for all their Game 1 sins. Amazing game.

A lot of people said that the Caps' style of hockey won't work in the playoffs. I know it's a whole new game when Spring rolls around, but I'm still pretty sure that the team that can score a buttload of goals will win their fair share. Goals don't count any less in the playoffs, after all.

Onward to Montreal. If these guys have "solved" Halak, this series is theirs for the taking.

[skinfanjon]

I'm still in awe. Our rookie defenseman is amazing, and the first line, led by Nicklas ComeBackstrom, make up for all their Game 1 sins. Amazing game.

A lot of people said that the Caps' style of hockey won't work in the playoffs. I know it's a whole new game when Spring rolls around, but I'm still pretty sure that the team that can score a buttload of goals will win their fair share. Goals don't count any less in the playoffs, after all.

Onward to Montreal. If these guys have "solved" Halak, this series is theirs for the taking.

Amazing game and I still can't believe I went to game 1 instead of game 2, grrrrr, but B.B. said in the presser that they had to resort to an all out offensive attack after falling so far behind. He was not happy with the early effort and intimated it was pretty much a last resort to have any chance of winning the game. It certainly won't be the gameplan any time soon and hopefully, we won't have to go that route too many times in the postseason. I hear ya though, it's nice to know you're never really out of a game with offensive firepower like that.

I think Montreal deserves a lot of credit for their play thus far. They were a team I felt could give the Caps trouble heading into the playoffs, the others being Ottawa and New Jersey (suck it Pittsburgh, we own you). We obviously haven't been at our best thus far and they are more than capable of taking advantage. We gotta figure out a way to win two in Montreal, I do NOT want this thing coming back for a game 7.

[cal_junior]

I think Montreal deserves a lot of credit for their play thus far. They were a team I felt could give the Caps trouble heading into the playoffs,

Among the five likely first round opponents down the stretch, I was hoping for Boston, New York or Atlanta. I did not want Philly or Montreal.

[CarMike]

The Caps made a miraculous recovery tonight. Good to know that there is a team here and not a bunch of individuals reliant on a few individuals.

No kidding rich. Down 4-1 I was about to give up myself. Glad they never quit playing. The defense has got to stop backing up and giving the Canadians room to shoot the puck. That 2nd goal scored by Mont. would have been hard for any goalie to stop.

Varly looked pretty good in relief. Green looked horrible on that 5th goal by Mont.

Can't wait till Monday night.

[cal_junior]

Green looked horrible on that 5th goal by Mont.

He looked bad on at least two of their goals (and I believe he was on the ice for 4 of the 5).

I'm not sure what Green's problem is with the playoffs. Perhaps he feels so much pressure to contribute on the offensive end that his defense suffers? Regardless, he needs to pick it up or the Caps will have trouble winning the series, much less the Cup.

[ihatedallas]

Well, a win is a win. Loosey Goosey is how the Capitals win games, like it or lump it. There will be games like this through the playoffs, but the defense has to get better.

Green needs to settle down and play hockey like he was playing in March, stop trying to prove a point. He's the teams worse defenseman right now, and I wouldn't say its even close.

Whats frustrating is that if you add the offense from game 2 and the defense/goaltending from game 1, you have a great effort.

Two things that needs to happen by the end of this series(because after this win, regardless of the first 90 minutes of this series, the Caps will probably win in 6).

The second line HAS to get going, Semin showing the Hyde side at the worst possible time. The 1st line turned it on, and the 3rd/4th is at least putting pressure. And-

The team has to simply settle down and play simple hockey. Make the simple pass, not the blue line to blue line. Get pucks to the net. I know for a fact Montreal won't put up a 5 spot again, just make sure that they have to earn their goals. Blue line or goaltending whatever- Goals like the 1st,2nd, and 5th are unacceptable...start developing good habits for the next rounds.

The magic number is now 15! I can't believe every single series is 1-1(besides Chi/Nsh).

[cal_junior]

The magic number is now 15! I can't believe every single series is 1-1(besides Chi/Nsh).

Easy killer, the magic number is 3.

Until the Caps put together a complete game I'm not looking beyond the Habs.

Gimme Theo back in net Monday night. I think he'll be fine.

[ihatedallas]

Easy killer, the magic number is 3.

Until the Caps put together a complete game I'm not looking beyond the Habs.

Gimme Theo back in net Monday night. I think he'll be fine.

I know technically its 3, but its still nice to think of the bigger picture. Theo should be back for Montreal, because Theos first game>than Varlys relief.

[CarMike]

I know technically its 3, but its still nice to think of the bigger picture. Theo should be back for Montreal, because Theos first game>than Varlys relief.

I disagree. I think Varly needs to make the start in Montreal. If Jose looked that bad in game 2, he'll have even more pressure going back to Montreal. The crowd there will be all over him.

Go with the guy who gets the W. Now if Varly screws up like Jose did, pull Varly just as quick for Jose. That's how I'd handle it. Then again, I'm the coach. lol

[cal_junior]

I disagree. I think Varly needs to make the start in Montreal. If Jose looked that bad in game 2, he'll have even more pressure going back to Montreal. The crowd there will be all over him.

If you believe BB, then Theo gets the start. He said only one of the two goals was Theo's fault (the second, which frankly was more about terrible defense than anything) and he made the change to fire-up the players and the fans.

I think given the way Theo played the second half of the season, along with his performance in Game 1, should be enough to get him another start.

And with what Theo's been through the past year, I can't see a bunch of screaming Francophones having much impact on his play.

[BurgundyNGold]

If you believe BB, then Theo gets the start. He said only one of the two goals was Theo's fault (the second, which frankly was more about terrible defense than anything) and he made the change to fire-up the players and the fans.

I think given the way Theo played the second half of the season, along with his performance in Game 1, should be enough to get him another start.

And with what Theo's been through the past year, I can't see a bunch of screaming Francophones having much impact on his play.
I think if you win the game, you should get the next start. If you lose the game, you sit and the other goalie gets to start. Sure, this practice would completely disregard goal support, but at least you're sending a message to your goalie and giving yourself the best chance to ride the hot hand.

[cal_junior]

I think if you win the game, you should get the next start. If you lose the game, you sit and the other goalie gets to start. Sure, this practice would completely disregard goal support, but at least you're sending a message to your goalie and giving yourself the best chance to ride the hot hand.

Not only that, but I think this is the surest way for the Caps to have a legitimate goalie controversy on their hands.

Theo didn't play long enough last night to truly have a bad game. (One softy and one insane knuckleball don't count in my book.) So if Theo was your guy before the playoffs started, he should still be your guy now.

Theo played better in Game 1 than Varly did in Game 2. That should be enough for Game 3.

Plus I think you have let Theo have a shot to stick it to his old team in the Bell Center. If Theo stops 30 shots Monday and the Caps win 4-1 the Habs are done.

[BurgundyNGold]

Not only that, but I think this is the surest way for the Caps to have a legitimate goalie controversy on their hands.

Theo didn't play long enough last night to truly have a bad game. (One softy and one insane knuckleball don't count in my book.) So if Theo was your guy before the playoffs started, he should still be your guy now.

Theo played better in Game 1 than Varly did in Game 2. That should be enough for Game 3.

Plus I think you have let Theo have a shot to stick it to his old team in the Bell Center. If Theo stops 30 shots Monday and the Caps win 4-1 the Habs are done.
I don't disagree with what you're saying, I'm just getting the impression that the Caps likely already have a bit of a goalie controversy by virtue of not really having a solid, go-to guy. Theo might be slightly better than Varlie right now, but he has shown a propensity for giving up 4 or 5 bad goals on occasion just the same. BB has a decision to make at some point because you can't win too many cups giving up 4 and 5 goals, regardless who's in net.

[RedskinsDave]

Last night's game: what the?, uh oh, ok, no, game over, not so fast, here we go, woo hoo, not now, oh my god, AMAZING

[cal_junior]

Theo might be slightly better than Varlie right now, but he has shown a propensity for giving up 4 or 5 bad goals on occasion just the same.

Believe me, I'm no lover of Theo. He was a nice stop-gap for the past two years but Varly (or Neuvirth) is the future.

I think Theo gets one more chance to prove himself. If he sucks in Game 3 gimme Varly the rest of the way. This team has the potential to be a Cup contender for the better part of the next decade. I'm cool with figuring who the goalie will be ASAP.

[ihatedallas]

Honestly I think Theo or Varly will give the same performance more or less. Varly benefits from getting the confidence boost from last night, and not being able to speak french/english. I also know from last Spring that the big stage doesn't make him any more or less the same goaltender he was on the smaller one. I think getting Varly another stop and a better/mediocre performance will only help him in becoming the confident BEAST we saw in November/most of last spring. Theodore, on the other hand, has the risk of completely melting down in front of his home town crowd. Bruce has to struggle between getting a probable mediocre/2-4 goal performance from Varly or taking the gamble with Theo either having a stellar statement game or having a meltdown. Either goalie, imo, will have a short leash.

While I think Theo has proven himself down the stretch, I would much prefer Varly starting Monday and Theo probably starting Wed...less pressure in the second game, especially if the Caps get a W Monday.

[redskin_rich]

I'm not a fan of changing goalies in game or in series. How often does it work out?
I'm also not a fan of young goalies in the playoffs, especially with inconsistent defensive play.

Put Theo back in and stress sounder defensive play, to the point of changing the lines and bruising some egos. We know we can score points, lets focus on stopping points being scored.

[Patrick]

Need to put Theo back in - maybe pulling him help set his mind straight.

[wide_awake]

The Theo vs. Varly decision is one I'm glad I don't have to make.

Theo stops the first few and he turns into a brick wall, but the LAST team I want him to have to play against is the Habs IN Montreal. They will heckle him all game, try and get in his head and it's a very intimidating place to play for a goalie who grew up in that area and played for the Habs. Varly is a robot (love it) and doesn't give a damn about Montreal. I'd like to play Varly for just this series then go back to Theo but that's a big "we don't believe in you fully" to Theo.

No clear cut answer to what to do here.

[cal_junior]

I'm not a fan of changing goalies in game or in series. How often does it work out?

Last year, Caps vs. Rangers

[cal_junior]

Varly comes off the ice first. Looks like he will start tonight

[BurgundyNGold]

Varly comes off the ice first. Looks like he will start tonight
I would think it better to start Theo in that building.

[cal_junior]

I would think it better to start Theo in that building.

It will be interesting. the Bell Center has the rep of having one of craziest home environments in the league, but the Habs have been terrible there this year.

Going to be fun . . .

[ihatedallas]

Switched up the lines.

After the OBK line he put Flash/Belanger/Semin and Laich/Bmo/Fehr. I think this works much better. That second line has a lot of speed, and a lot of open ice skill. Boudreau is doing everything he can to wake Semin the sleeping giant up. The third line will be able to grind and Bmo/Fehr work well together.


Going with Varly now is smart I think. He won, and never appears to have any sort of extra stress from crowds.

[cal_junior]

After the OBK line he put Flash/Belanger/Semin and Laich/Bmo/Fehr. I think this works much better. That second line has a lot of speed, and a lot of open ice skill. Boudreau is doing everything he can to wake Semin the sleeping giant up.

I'm excited about the second line. We'll see, but I think tonight could be a good night for the Caps.

[ihatedallas]

Thinking about it I think the pressure is on the Habs tonight...They are the ones who let the train start rolling, while fallinf apart completely int he third, on Saturday. Coming home, where they play poorly, I think they feel the weight of trying to return to the team that held the Caps to 4 goals in the first 100 minutes of the series.

[cal_junior]

Thinking about it I think the pressure is on the Habs tonight.

The Habs definitely need this one more than the Caps do.

[cal_junior]

Great 'W,' but what is going on with the PP? Gotta get that fixed if this is going to be a lengthy postseason run.

[skinfanjon]

Great 'W,' but what is going on with the PP? Gotta get that fixed if this is going to be a lengthy postseason run.

Okay, Mr. Wet Blanket, lol. Tonight is a good night, let it go dude. We played exactly the kind of game we needed to tonight, let it gooo.

Great performance by everyone, Varly in particular. I was in favor of starting Jose but I think it's pretty obvious he's on the bench for awhile now. The key to the game was holding the Habs scoreless during that big push in the first period. This could have been a much different game had they got a goal then, but the defense was on point and Varly made several fantastic saves.

I don't think Montreal is gonna win another game in this series, they came unraveled late. When it's all over, they're gonna look back at game 2 and kick themselves for letting us back in it.

[RedskinsDave]

I am glad we beat them this badly after their loser fans booed during our anthem.

[cal_junior]

Okay, Mr. Wet Blanket, lol. Tonight is a good night, let it go dude. We played exactly the kind of game we needed to tonight, let it gooo.

Sorry, but this is not true. Some of us are interested in the big picture like, you know, playing for the Cup. And for a team that is led by its power play, 0-for-14 won't quite cut it.

I couldn't be happier that they won tonight, but taking a 2-1 lead over the 8 seed isn't time to crack open the bubbly. The power play has to improve or they aren't getting out of the East.

[cal_junior]

I am glad we beat them this badly after their loser fans booed during our anthem.

By all accounts it was a small minority. To their credit, a lot of the Habs fans have started loudly singing the US anthem to drown out the few idiots.

[skinfanjon]

Sorry, but this is not true. Some of us are interested in the big picture like, you know, playing for the Cup. And for a team that is led by its power play, 0-for-14 won't quite cut it.

I couldn't be happier that they won tonight, but taking a 2-1 lead over the 8 seed isn't time to crack open the bubbly. The power play has to improve or they aren't getting out of the East.

Whatever, no matter how well they play you always have to hype the negative. Stop acting like you're the only one who cares about the big picture. So, the defense steps up, Varly's tremendous, the offense is clicking, and all you can focus on is that the power play didn't show up? It's not like it's been a recurring problem, they're gonna snap out of it soon enough. There's just no pleasing some people.

And why exactly was tonight NOT the kind of game we needed to play again?

[cal_junior]

There's just no pleasing some people.

Whatever. The first thing I wrote was "Great W." So stop with the drama.

A fan can be pleased with the win but still concerned about the big picture.

[ihatedallas]

Great Win, the immediate holes within this series have been plugged. As a team you have to go series by series, and the defense/goaltending/crowding the net led to a gigantic win tonight. Montreal will end up folding this series, in the last 4 periods they've been outscored 9-2.

If Varly is on his way to being the old Varly, the caps are capable of beating any team any night.

I don't think worrying about the PP is a bad thing, its ok to find something to improve on. I know the PP will be very important in long ugly series against someone like the Pens or the Flyers, so take the next 2/3 games to get it in order against Montreal. The pp does this all the time, a funk starts out of no where, lingers, then all the sudden they'll go 6-14 in the next 3 games.


My question to you guys who hang around the thread, how do you want the other series to go? I want Buffalo to lose out, same with Philly. I'd rather play Boston than Philly....That way the Pens can take the devils, and the Caps have to play 1 instead of both, which they would have to do if Buffalo/Pitt/NJ all end up coming back/winning their series.

[ihatedallas]

Cal Junior -

So with the Big Picture, the magic number is 14 right? :sun:

[cal_junior]

Cal Junior -

So with the Big Picture, the magic number is 14 right? :sun:

Yes indeed.

[skinfanjon]

Great Win, the immediate holes within this series have been plugged. As a team you have to go series by series, and the defense/goaltending/crowding the net led to a gigantic win tonight. Montreal will end up folding this series, in the last 4 periods they've been outscored 9-2.


Montreal looked like they lost their composure at the end of the game, I think it carries over. If we get game 4, there's no way we don't close it out at home in game 5.

If Varly is on his way to being the old Varly, the caps are capable of beating any team any night.


Definitely, but I doubt we've seen the last of Jose. Just a hunch.

I don't think worrying about the PP is a bad thing, its ok to find something to improve on. I know the PP will be very important in long ugly series against someone like the Pens or the Flyers, so take the next 2/3 games to get it in order against Montreal. The pp does this all the time, a funk starts out of no where, lingers, then all the sudden they'll go 6-14 in the next 3 games.


This is precisely why it's not a big deal, it's just a mini-funk and it will be over soon. Better to have it now than in the conference finals or cup finals. I'd much rather focus on all the other things that went right tonight, like, pretty much everything else lol. Scoring on the PP is the least of my concerns right now.

My question to you guys who hang around the thread, how do you want the other series to go? I want Buffalo to lose out, same with Philly. I'd rather play Boston than Philly....That way the Pens can take the devils, and the Caps have to play 1 instead of both, which they would have to do if Buffalo/Pitt/NJ all end up coming back/winning their series.

What you said.

[skinfanjon]

Whatever. The first thing I wrote was "Great W." So stop with the drama.

A fan can be pleased with the win but still concerned about the big picture.

No drama, I was just joking around, you're the one that made it chippy with your big picture comment. We're all on the same team here, I just thought you would have some positive analysis after such an impressive display. You're starting to remind me of this guy lol

http://exburgher.com/art/stories/July06/MajorLeague2/RandyQuaidHappy.jpg

[ihatedallas]

Montreal looked like they lost their composure at the end of the game, I think it carries over. If we get game 4, there's no way we don't close it out at home in game 5.




Definitely, but I doubt we've seen the last of Jose. Just a hunch.


With you there. I think if Varly wins and its not completely dominant, like a 3-2 win maybe Wed., I think BB gives Theo the chance to close it out at home. If Varly has another near shutout though, there's no way you can take him out, even if Theo deserves another chance.

[oldskinfan]

With you there. I think if Varly wins and its not completely dominant, like a 3-2 win maybe Wed., I think BB gives Theo the chance to close it out at home. If Varly has another near shutout though, there's no way you can take him out, even if Theo deserves another chance.

Great win. Much easier on my ticker than the 6-5 thriller on Saturday.

Varly is 22 and the future. If Varly wins the next one, I think you ride that horse as long as you can. Boudreau is no sentimentalist about his goalkeepers.

[cal_junior]

Varly is 22 and the future. If Varly wins the next one, I think you ride that horse as long as you can. Boudreau is no sentimentalist about his goalkeepers.

Absolutely. I think if it wasn't for injuries he might have started 60+ games this year. He was a little shaky during the season, but I'm hoping that was just rust.

If he turns into even a top-7 goalie the Caps could be in for a really, really fun decade.

[CarMike]

I disagree. I think Varly needs to make the start in Montreal. If Jose looked that bad in game 2, he'll have even more pressure going back to Montreal. The crowd there will be all over him.

Go with the guy who gets the W. Now if Varly screws up like Jose did, pull Varly just as quick for Jose. That's how I'd handle it. Then again, I'm the coach. lol

Good call CarMike! :)

Man, Varly sure steps it up when the playoffs begin.

OMT, Montreal can kiss my red, white, and blue arse after booing the US anthem.

[cal_junior]

I really thought Theo earned one more start. Happy as heck to be wrong

[BurgundyNGold]

I really thought Theo earned one more start. Happy as heck to be wrong
Ride the hot hand! :D

[CarMike]

Ride the hot hand! :D

That's what she said. :)

[BurgundyNGold]

That's what she said.
:lol1:

http://cyncity.typepad.com/cyn_city/images/2007/07/02/thatswhatshesaid.jpg

[ihatedallas]

Just to kick the bucket around on an off day- I read one caps fan on another board say "John Carlson is everything I hoped Mike Green would be.: In some ways I identify with this... Carlson plays a VERY solid 2 way game and has that special feeling that follows great players. Alot of experts see him winning the Calder next year. Green amazes me sometimes and I have an incredible respect for his offensive awareness and his skating ability. I think if he could be even more special if he would apply his hockey sense to his own zone.

Carlson has the potential that makes the GM in me shutter.

Anyone else start drooling about thinking where this kid will be in 2 years?

[skinfanjon]

Just to kick the bucket around on an off day- I read one caps fan on another board say "John Carlson is everything I hoped Mike Green would be.: In some ways I identify with this... Carlson plays a VERY solid 2 way game and has that special feeling that follows great players. Alot of experts see him winning the Calder next year. Green amazes me sometimes and I have an incredible respect for his offensive awareness and his skating ability. I think if he could be even more special if he would apply his hockey sense to his own zone.

Carlson has the potential that makes the GM in me shutter.

Anyone else start drooling about thinking where this kid will be in 2 years?

Absolutely. Green has been very underwhelming in the postseason for his career, both offensively and defensively. Frankly, I'm starting to get a little tired of him and if we could get another star in a trade that wouldn't shrink in the playoffs, I would do the deal. Carlson looks like the real deal. It's ridiculous how bright this teams future is.

[cal_junior]

Carey Price will get the start for the Habs.

[CarMike]

http://cyncity.typepad.com/cyn_city/images/2007/07/02/thatswhatshesaid.jpg

:lol1:

[ihatedallas]

I'm a fan of Price starting, I don't think he has the goods to win a game by himself at this point.

[cal_junior]

I'm a fan of Price starting, I don't think he has the goods to win a game by himself at this point.

I'm at the point where I think as long as the Caps get solid goalie play themselves it really doesn't matter who the Habs have in goal. It's going to be very, very tough for Montreal to keep the Caps under 5 goals tonight.

[ihatedallas]

I'm at the point where I think as long as the Caps get solid goalie play themselves it really doesn't matter who the Habs have in goal. It's going to be very, very tough for Montreal to keep the Caps under 5 goals tonight.

The main man attributed to shutting down Ovi, Spacek, might be out as well. Something tells me with that, Crosby having a 4 point night last night, and Price now starting, Ovi might be in line for a 2/3 goal performance...just a hunch.

[cal_junior]

Ovi might be in line for a 2/3 goal performance...just a hunch.

That would be pretty awesome. The rest of the East is in deep, deep trouble if No. 8 gets hot.

[ihatedallas]

That would be pretty awesome. The rest of the East is in deep, deep trouble if No. 8 gets hot.

We've put up 6 and 5 spots consecutively with him being relatively tame. He needs to heat up because it looks like we're playing philly(if we beat Montreal yada yada yada). We've matched up with them well but against a team like that you need MVPs to be MVPs..

[cal_junior]

He needs to heat up because it looks like we're playing philly(if we beat Montreal yada yada yada). We've matched up with them well but against a team like that you need MVP's to be MVP's..

And Philly has looked very solid against Jersey. But as you say, first things first. Let's get this win tonight and put this series effectively out of reach.

[ihatedallas]

And Philly has looked very solid against Jersey. But as you say, first things first. Let's get this win tonight and put this series effectively out of reach.

While I hate to fall victim of looking ahead, Carter was just ruled out for the year and Gagne is out too following the last game. If Philly squeaks out a win against NJ, that team is going to be incredibly thin up front for another series.


The stars are aligning for an incredibly stressful ECF with the black and gold....

[cal_junior]

The stars are aligning for an incredibly stressful ECF with the black and gold....

Careful, Jinxy McJinxerson. But that would be sweet. The Pens are a dragon this franchise needs to slay.

[cal_junior]

No Spacek tonight (http://twitter.com/TarikElBashir/status/12601896671)

[cal_junior]

Great win. Varly awesome, shorthanded goals still awesome and Semin shows up and makes a great play.

I was impressed with the Habs for two periods. Final score not indicative of how close that was for 50 minutes or so.

Let's finish this thing out on Friday. No Game 6, please.

[ihatedallas]

There is something about this team...They can look GOD AWFUL for 50 minutes out of a game and then just go off like a grenade and be up 2.

Players of the series thusfar in no particular order - Backs-Poti-Carlson-Knuble-Ovi-Fehr-Gordon-Bradley. Each one seems to have a really special moment each game.


I hate to see Steckel out but the Bradley/Gordon/Chimera line is going to have to do something god awful to get taken apart.

[cal_junior]

Players of the series thusfar in no particular order - Backs-Poti-Carlson-Knuble-Ovi-Fehr-Gordon-Bradley.

Uh, Varly?

[RedskinsDave]

Great win. Varly awesome, shorthanded goals still awesome and Semin shows up and makes a great play.

I was impressed with the Habs for two periods. Final score not indicative of how close that was for 50 minutes or so.

Let's finish this thing out on Friday. No Game 6, please.

Short handed goals on the road near the end of a period are the best. They had to rue over that goal for 15 mins.

[ihatedallas]

Uh, Varly?

wuuups, throw him in there somewhere I guess.

[ihatedallas]

Short handed goals on the road near the end of a period are the best. They had to rue over that goal for 15 mins.

Seems like that caught up with them. Whole team acted like a bunch of little girls when the caps blew up and opened the lead. Especially that goalie, what a punk.

[cal_junior]

Short handed goals on the road near the end of a period are the best. They had to rue over that goal for 15 mins.

While I've been impressed with the Habs' play over the series, I think that is where you see why they barely made it into the playoffs. All it takes is one bad break and they basically give up. By contrast, when the Caps were down 4-1 in Game 2 it just seemed to motivate them.

The Caps have a different level of fight than most teams. That should serve them well as the playoffs continue.

[ihatedallas]

17 goals in 3 games is great, but BB has to do something to our Euro wingers. I know its nitpicking, butSemin and Flash are thinking too much and working too little. Semins assist tonight was vital, as was Flash's to Fehr Saturday, but right now we're at roughly 5.6 a clip with a non existent 2nd line. Their contributions are going to be absolutely necessary this time next week.

[cal_junior]

Semins assist tonight was vital,

Having gone back and watched NHL.com highlight package, I'm now worried that Semin just got the puck poked away and it went right to Ovie. Phooey

[ihatedallas]

Having gone back and watched NHL.com highlight package, I'm now worried that Semin just got the puck poked away and it went right to Ovie. Phooey

It was def. a combination of the both, but his effort to draw the D and bring it into the zone is still a confidence booster. Hopefully he is saving it for more important games?:bangdesk:

Is it safe to look ahead now? I'm all ready to start dissecting philly.

[oldskinfan]

Varly was just awesome tonight - especially in the 2nd period eating up those 20 shots.

The Habs had to think this is who was in goal:

http://cftaf1234.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/lecter0103.jpg

Also what a jerk Price was for his two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties - winging the goal at the celebrating Caps after Chimera put them up 4-2 and whacking Backstrom with his stick from the bench after the score became 6-3.

[skinfanjon]

Way to go power play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cal_junior]

Also what a jerk Price was for his two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties - winging the goal at the celebrating Caps after Chimera put them up 4-2 and whacking Backstrom with his stick from the bench after the score became 6-3.

Young, stupid hot-headed kid. That to me was evidence the Habs are done mentally.

I think if the Caps get up 2-0 or 3-1 Friday night we could see some shenanigans from Montreal.

[ihatedallas]

No Spacek again. Would love to see the Caps wrap this up tonight and begin practicing for Philly.

[cal_junior]

No Spacek again. Would love to see the Caps wrap this up tonight and begin practicing for Philly.

Assuming the Caps are eventually going to win this series, it would be pretty nice to get it taken care of in five games. Been 12 years since the Caps have done that.

[cal_junior]

(Post removed because author is an idiot)

[cal_junior]

Terrible first period (and Halak) was the difference.

Weren't we the best home team in the league? Didn't we have the best PP in the league?

1-2 at home and 1 PP goal through five games. Gross

[ihatedallas]

Chalkin up the loss, at least my immediate impression, to not catching any breaks. The last 30 minutes of this game was all Caps. Some saves Halak made weren't on him as much as the Caps hitting him with their shot. PP is getting annoying, but I still don't think Halak can hold the caps under 1 again.

[cal_junior]

PP is getting annoying

Beyond that for me. If the PP was anywhere near it's regular season percentage this series would be over. (Might have been a sweep, actually.)

[BigCountry]

Can you blame the Caps for looking ahead to the Pens with the way the regular season series went?

[cal_junior]

Can you blame the Caps for looking ahead to the Pens with the way the regular season series went?

Well if they're looking ahead to the Pens there's just about no chance they'll make it that far. The Flyers are playing very well.

If they had played great the previous four games then you could excuse a "look-ahead" game. But the Caps haven't put a complete game together yet this postseason.

[ihatedallas]

Well if they're looking ahead to the Pens there's just about no chance they'll make it that far. The Flyers are playing very well.

If they had played great the previous four games then you could excuse a "look-ahead" game. But the Caps haven't put a complete game together yet this postseason.

The annoying part is I was more satisfied with their neutral zone play this game than either of the past 2 wins. They had the majority of the chances...Shamo cant get healthy fast enough, that second goal with Sloan was embarrassing.

[cal_junior]

The annoying part is I was more satisfied with their neutral zone play this game than either of the past 2 wins. They had the majority of the chances

I agree, after the first 15 minutes or so. The Habs completely dominated the first 80 percent of the first period and that proved to be enough.

It's never easy with the Caps . . .

[ihatedallas]

I don't know if you took notice to it as well CJ, but I thought the Caps last powerplay was the best of the series, even though the first 4 were awful.

[oldskinfan]

Can you point to 2 more disappointing players right now than Mike Green and Alexander Semin?

Semin: no goals in 12 playoff games.

Mike Green: for once I would like to see him throw down his body to block a %$#%@! shot.

Unfortunately, this happened last year also (disappearing in the playoffs). If the Caps don't at least make it to the conference finals, I don't think you blow up the team but you have to think about getting another Knuble-like scorer and seeing if the kid Carlson should get more ice time than Green next year.

Really, really disappointing.

[cal_junior]

Can you point to 2 more disappointing players right now than Mike Green and Alexander Semin?

No.

Although I thought Semin was a lot more involved last night than he has been all series. Eventually a few of those are going to fall.

[ihatedallas]

No.

Although I thought Semin was a lot more involved last night than he has been all series. Eventually a few of those are going to fall.

Well Semins numbers still aren't coming, but I thought he was the Caps best player for long stretches yesterday.

[ihatedallas]

Hate to be too confident but I think the Caps close it out with a strong performance. The Friday let down was half expected, but the Habs don't play well at home.

Pressure is on them and I think they wither out and finally die on home ice...just my guess.

[cal_junior]

Pressure is on them and I think they wither out and finally die on home ice...just my guess.

I don't think it much matters what the Habs do. I'm of the opinion there is nobody in the East who can beat the Capitals other than the Capitals.

If they put together a full game (or at least don't have any miserable periods) they'll win by two goals or more.

[ihatedallas]

I don't think it much matters what the Habs do. I'm of the opinion there is nobody in the East who can beat the Capitals other than the Capitals.

If they put together a full game (or at least don't have any miserable periods) they'll win by two goals or more.

I'm in the same boat. I think it almost takes them a loss sometimes so they stop playing cat and mouse with their opponents. I think they play more focused hockey away from the phone booth, and I think we are going to see a similar game to game 2.

[cal_junior]

I'm in the same boat. I think it almost takes them a loss sometimes so they stop playing cat and mouse with their opponents. I think they play more focused hockey away from the phone booth, and I think we are going to see a similar game to game 2.

This extra day wasn't good for my blood pressure and I don't think I can handle a Game 7 this early. They need to finish this tomorrow night.

[ihatedallas]

This extra day wasn't good for my blood pressure and I don't think I can handle a Game 7 this early. They need to finish this tomorrow night.

likewise...waiting after a loss sucks, let alone waiting the extra day. I also can't watch any games on Mondays or Wednesdays, but that appeared to win 1 in the luck column last week.

[cal_junior]

I also can't watch any games on Mondays or Wednesdays, but that appeared to win 1 in the luck column last week.

Woof. I'll have to watch on DVR-delay until I get our son to bed, so my biggest trick will be avoiding scores and texts from friends.

I hate to even think it, but I have so many buddies who hail from western Pennsylvania that it will be a Shakespearean tragedy for me if the Caps don't win at least five more playoff games.

But first things first. I'd like two PP goals, a goal from Semin and give me a nice 6-2 win tomorrow night.

[ihatedallas]

Woof. I'll have to watch on DVR-delay until I get our son to bed, so my biggest trick will be avoiding scores and texts from friends.

I hate to even think it, but I have so many buddies who hail from western Pennsylvania that it will be a Shakespearean tragedy for me if the Caps don't win at least five more playoff games.

But first things first. I'd like two PP goals, a goal from Semin and give me a nice 6-2 win tomorrow night.

Likewise on the western PA crowd. Not getting to the ECF will not only provide instant heckling from the entire hockey world, but also set the franchise back a bit. There are goals that need to be met, and changes will have to be made if this core/coach combination doesn't meet them for a second straight season.

I'm still oddly confident...Most pens fans are confusing because they say that the Caps choke in the playoffs, but this group has been there TWICE and have forced game 7's in both games. They have improved each year and the next logical step is ECF and beyond.

Semin is due for a goal because he is putting in the work and by the sheer number of shots they have to start going in eventually.

6-2 sounds right. Ovi extends goal streak to 5 games, Semin gets 2 and Fehr has one of the first 3 goals. Ovi's 4 game goal streak is going a bit unoticed, no? I mean Crosby has been ripping Ottawa to shreds but since Ovi came out slow in game 1 he's been shredding Montreal up.

[cal_junior]

I mean Crosby has been ripping Ottawa to shreds but since Ovi came out slow in game 1 he's been shredding Montreal up.

I think Ovie has it much tougher than Crosby this round. While Ottawa is the better team, Montreal has tons of game experience on its blue line. Those guys are savvy and know how to clog things up.

If the Caps manage to get through the Habs I think Ovie will find a lot more space to operate.

(I have to more to say on the subject but the last time I opened my big yapper about the next round the Caps played like a HS team for the first ten minutes and lost 2-1. I am not looking past Montreal, Gods of ice hockey. Honest.)

[skinfanjon]

Looks like the habs got away with having six men on the ice for around 20 seconds at the end of the second period in game 5. Not a fan of Steinberg, but pretty good work this time.

Link (http://http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/04/montreals_six_men_on_the_ice.html)

[cal_junior]

Not gonna lie, this kid scares me a little:

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/subban_ab75024-r99558&is=Right+Side+Bar

Hope I'm wrong. Hope he does nothing . . .

[ihatedallas]

I hope Belanger gets one, he did donate teeth to the hockey gods.

[cal_junior]

I hope Belanger gets one, he did donate teeth to the hockey gods.

+1

I've literally never heard of an athlete having an emergency root canal in the middle of a game and then continuing to play afterwards. That might be the most hardcore thing ever

[Patrick]

Caps are is handing big MOE to Montreal ......... I sure I'm wrong but I don't think the Cap get pass the first round . UnREAL ...

[wide_awake]

Caps are is handing big MOE to Montreal ......... I sure I'm wrong but I don't think the Cap get pass the first round . UnREAL ...


I got tickets for game 7 and I'm expecting a loss to the point where I don't even want to go, giving them to a good friend instead.

[cal_junior]

I was ripped on here for complaining about the power play earlier in the series.

Well that 0-for-6 tonight (including more than a minute of 5-of-3) was pretty freakin huge. Another performance like this and it's a first round exit and the Caps will prove every single one of their doubters correct.

[skinfanjon]

I was ripped on here for complaining about the power play earlier in the series.

Well that 0-for-6 tonight (including more than a minute of 5-of-3) was pretty freakin huge. Another performance like this and it's a first round exit and the Caps will prove every single one of their doubters correct.

Yeah, my bad dude. I didn't think the drought would continue and I didn't think we would go this deep against Montreal. You were right. Halak was unbelievable tonight, what'd he have, 55 saves? Honestly, we played a pretty good game, maybe the best of the series. Two of their goals were defelctions off our defensemen and we played most of the game in their zone, just couldn't get the puck in the net. I thought Varly played well too. Anybody think we see Theo for game 7? Varly has played well enough to deserve the start, but i don't know man, I keep thinking back to game 7 in the phone booth against Pittsburgh last year. BB went against his gut and it cost us big time, I wonder how much that will play into the decision this year.

Cal, you're obviously a big Caps fan, but it kinda sounds like you want to be right about doubting them as much as you want to advance. That's just the impression I get from your posts and it's partly why I called you out about the power play thing following a strong showing in game 4. It just seems like you want to play Debbie Downer all the time...we need positive energy for Wednesday, if you're going to the game I hope you bring it. I'm gonna see if there's anyway I can get off work and head to the phone booth.

EFF this B***S***, I'm not ready for the season to be over. Time to come together and find a way to advance.

[BurgundyNGold]

Yeah, my bad dude. I didn't think the drought would continue and I didn't think we would go this deep against Montreal. You were right. Halak was unbelievable tonight, what'd he have, 55 saves? Honestly, we played a pretty good game, maybe the best of the series. Two of their goals were defelctions off our defensemen and we played most of the game in their zone, just couldn't get the puck in the net. I thought Varly played well too. Anybody think we see Theo for game 7? Varly has played well enough to deserve the start, but i don't know man, I keep thinking back to game 7 in the phone booth against Pittsburgh last year. BB went against his gut and it cost us big time, I wonder how much that will play into the decision this year.

Cal, you're obviously a big Caps fan, but it kinda sounds like you want to be right about doubting them as much as you want to advance. That's just the impression I get from your posts and it's partly why I called you out about the power play thing following a strong showing in game 4. It just seems like you want to play Debbie Downer all the time...we need positive energy for Wednesday, if you're going to the game I hope you bring it. I'm gonna see if there's anyway I can get off work and head to the phone booth.

EFF this B***S***, I'm not ready for the season to be over. Time to come together and find a way to advance.
I missed the game tonight. I gathered that we lost and that our PP is for ****. Is Semin still asleep at the wheel?

[tuckahoeskin]

I missed the game tonight. I gathered that we lost and that our PP is for ****. Is Semin still asleep at the wheel?

I watched bits and pieces. It was pathetic. Good thing you missed it. I turned it off for good when we got stoned on repeated shots, then Montreal took the rebound down for a quick 40' shot to go up 3-0. It's a History Channel kind of night.

[skinfanjon]

I missed the game tonight. I gathered that we lost and that our PP is for ****. Is Semin still asleep at the wheel?

Semin had one GREAT chance, plenty of time and space and put it right on Halak's Canadien crest. Just a terrible shot....had several others he just didn't finish. The PP got plenty of shots and posession, but like the rest of the game, couldn't put it in the net. We didn't score until five minutes left and at that point it was more of a confidence boost for game 7 than getting back into this game.

[wide_awake]

I missed the game tonight. I gathered that we lost and that our PP is for ****. Is Semin still asleep at the wheel?

-We shot at 53 shots at Halak, about 40 of them were straight to his chest.

-It looked like we dominated the second period as The Habs sat on their 2 goal lead and allowed (mostly) low percentage shots, but we really didn't. The high percentage shots were either to the chest of Halak or he made made spectacular saves.

-Bruce, being the savvy on-the-fly coach that he is (who recently said he does not "believe" in taking advantage of home ice last line change advantage btw), did not have his team crash the net, run at Halak, or screen the goalie, but rather keep feeding him confidence with shots from the perimeters that he'd been stopping all night. Because when you are facing a hot goalie you don't crowd him to take him out of his comfort zone.

-Caps were significantly less physical against the midget habs.

/vent

[skinfanjon]

A side note about the power play....I've felt our 5 on 3 has been **** all season and tonight was no different. My comments before were strictly regarding the one man advantage.

[BurgundyNGold]

I watched bits and pieces. It was pathetic. Good thing you missed it. I turned it off for good when we got stoned on repeated shots, then Montreal took the rebound down for a quick 40' shot to go up 3-0. It's a History Channel kind of night.
Ugh, that sounds sickening. I'm glad I didn't see that.

Semin had one GREAT chance, plenty of time and space and put it right on Halak's Canadien crest. Just a terrible shot....had several others he just didn't finish. The PP got plenty of shots and posession, but like the rest of the game, couldn't put it in the net. We didn't score until five minutes left and at that point it was more of a confidence boost for game 7 than getting back into this game.
I just don't understand, regardless of the coach, players -- hell, even decade -- how and why the Caps always make things so difficult in the playoffs. My childhood is full of Game 7 scars in series where we were up 3-1. We need to start turning that around because I don't want this group of players to get snakebit. The need to win Game 7 big and close ouot the next series in 5.

[skinsfan36]

+1

I've literally never heard of an athlete having an emergency root canal in the middle of a game and then continuing to play afterwards. That might be the most hardcore thing ever

did you see him rip his tooth put. i hope hvlak doesnt play out of his mind wednesday. we can dominate the flyers the canadiens are the worst matchup for us in the east imo and and its proved true as we are going to 7

[skinfanjon]

-We shot at 53 shots at Halak, about 40 of them were straight to his chest.

-It looked like we dominated the second period as The Habs sat on their 2 goal lead and allowed (mostly) low percentage shots, but we really didn't. The high percentage shots were either to the chest of Halak or he made made spectacular saves.

-Bruce, being the savvy on-the-fly coach that he is (who recently said he does not "believe" in taking advantage of home ice last line change advantage btw), did not have his team crash the net, run at Halak, or screen the goalie, but rather keep feeding him confidence with shots from the perimeters that he'd been stopping all night. Because when you are facing a hot goalie you don't crowd him to take him out of his comfort zone.

-Caps were significantly less physical against the midget habs.

/vent

Unfortunately, I can't really disagree with any of this.

[BurgundyNGold]

-We shot at 53 shots at Halak, about 40 of them were straight to his chest.

-It looked like we dominated the second period as The Habs sat on their 2 goal lead and allowed (mostly) low percentage shots, but we really didn't. The high percentage shots were either to the chest of Halak or he made made spectacular saves.

-Bruce, being the savvy on-the-fly coach that he is (who recently said he does not "believe" in taking advantage of home ice last line change advantage btw), did not have his team crash the net, run at Halak, or screen the goalie, but rather keep feeding him confidence with shots from the perimeters that he'd been stopping all night. Because when you are facing a hot goalie you don't crowd him to take him out of his comfort zone.

-Caps were significantly less physical against the midget habs.

/vent
I've noticed this at times, as well and it's something that has to change. You know that the Pens are going to play physical hockey up and down the ice, not just around the blue lines. I kinda wish that we had a Donald Brashear around to keep the other team honest too.

[skinfanjon]

Ugh, that sounds sickening. I'm glad I didn't see that.


I just don't understand, regardless of the coach, players -- hell, even decade -- how and why the Caps always make things so difficult in the playoffs. My childhood is full of Game 7 scars in series where we were up 3-1. We need to start turning that around because I don't want this group of players to get snakebit. The need to win Game 7 big and close ouot the next series in 5.

It's almost to the point where I don't want to be up 3-1, I remember those same series, too. Just gut-wrenching losses, man.

[cal_junior]

The bottom line is that if the Caps play an identical game on Wednesday they'll win by four goals. Halak was solid, but the Caps made it easier for him

They're pressing and it shows in the way they are not capitalizing on straight-forward chances. Open nets were missed, opportunities in close were fanned on, etc.

You would think at some point Semin will stop the disappearing act. Watching this series you'd never know the Caps had two of the best goal-scorers in hockey.

[BurgundyNGold]

It's almost to the point where I don't want to be up 3-1, I remember those same series, too. Just gut-wrenching losses, man.
Whew. I'm glad I'm not the only one who got the heebie-jeebies when we went up 3-1. We just need to close it out. Cal is right, at some point the levy just has to break.

[cal_junior]

Whew. I'm glad I'm not the only one who got the heebie-jeebies when we went up 3-1.

My hope was that this team is so much different than the ones that blew those leads - different players, different uniforms, different building, different owner, different color scheme - it wouldn't be relevant.

How wrong I was . . .

[BurgundyNGold]

My hope was that this team is so much different than the ones that blew those leads - different players, different uniforms, different building, different owner, different color scheme - it wouldn't be relevant.
That's what's so crazy. After last year and so far this year... it's just surreal. The cycle has to be broken sometime.

[skinfanjon]

My hope was that this team is so much different than the ones that blew those leads - different players, different uniforms, different building, different owner, different color scheme - it wouldn't be relevant.

How wrong I was . . .

Weren't we up on the Pens 3-1 last year?

[skinfanjon]

So, who do you start game 7? Varly or Jose?

I'm going Varly, but it's with like 60% confidence. I can't shake the memory of game 7 last year.

[BurgundyNGold]

Weren't we up on the Pens 3-1 last year?
Thanks for making me go get a prilosec lol.

So, who do you start game 7? Varly or Jose?

I'm going Varly, but it's with like 60% confidence. I can't shake the memory of game 7 last year.
I think you start Varly at home, but I would have started Theo in Montreal at least one game, probably Game 6.

[skinfanjon]

Also, and maybe it's going too far to even mention it, but is there any chance BB is coaching for his job on Wednesday? I would think he'd get another year for sure, but if this team flames out in the first round...man, I wouldn't be comfortable if i were him.

[cal_junior]

I think you start Varly at home, but I would have started Theo in Montreal at least one game, probably Game 6.

You definitely start Varly Wednesday. Contrary to the mediocre VS announcing, none of the Montreal goals were soft. Two took deflections off of Caps players sticks and the other was indirectly the result of an insanely fortuitous ricochet.

He also made at least one spectacular save that kept the score 2-0. Defense was not the problem tonight.

[wide_awake]

Also, and maybe it's going too far to even mention it, but is there any chance BB is coaching for his job on Wednesday? I would think he'd get another year for sure, but if this team flames out in the first round...man, I wouldn't be comfortable if i were him.

Thats one positive (imo) I can see out of losing. The humiliation might just be big enough that Ted will go against his ultra-conservative ways.

[BurgundyNGold]

Also, and maybe it's going too far to even mention it, but is there any chance BB is coaching for his job on Wednesday? I would think he'd get another year for sure, but if this team flames out in the first round...man, I wouldn't be comfortable if i were him.
Hypothetically speaking, of course, it wouldn't surprise me. But I'd think he'd get one more year. He did lead the team to the best record in hockey this past season.

[wide_awake]

You definitely start Varly Wednesday. Contrary to the mediocre VS announcing, none of the Montreal goals were soft. Two took deflections off of Caps players sticks and the other was indirectly the result of an insanely fortuitous ricochet.

He also made at least one spectacular save that kept the score 2-0. Defense was not the problem tonight.


I think if you give Theo a chance to redeem/save this series he'll come through big at home. Or maybe I just hope so, I don't know.

[cal_junior]

Hypothetically speaking, of course, it wouldn't surprise me. But I'd think he'd get one more year. He did lead the team to the best record in hockey this past season.

Not only was it the best record in hockey, it was literally the first time a non-Original 6 team has gotten 120 points in season. That's pretty awesome for a ho-hum franchise like the Caps.

Even with a loss Wednesday he gets one more season.

[cal_junior]

I think if you give Theo a chance to redeem/save this series he'll come through big at home. Or maybe I just hope so, I don't know.

Like I said, the people who need to save the series for Washington do not play goalie. If the Caps convert chances they'll win, if not it's a complete coin flip game.

[cal_junior]

A horrible, horrible stat: In the history of the NHL, a No. 1 seed has never blown a 3-1 series lead to a No. 8 seed.

Why do I feel like that fact all but guarantees the Habs are going to win Wednesday night in D.C.?

[44 goes 50 gut]

Well it's probably already been brought up, but if there's a humiliating, bizarre, futile or ignominous NHL "record" the caps own it...

As a long time caps fan we're talking about everything from the worst season record in the history of the league, to the worst playoff choke jobs in league history... They are (or were anyway at one point) for instance the only team to win the first three games of a series and then lose the next 4. They have a host of NHL records of shame involving first round playoffs, long multi-overtime playoffs, and game 7's. And the Penguins alone probably perpetrated a half dozen of these "records of futility" on the caps. I actually stopped being able to remember these low points about 10 years ago, they tend to all mash together there's so many of them... Crazy as it sounds, almost every Caps playoff choke job (and there's been more of those than I can count as well) has actually involved some stupidly ignominious and horrible like the above "record of shame".

I don't think there's a more "owned" rivalry in the history of sports than the Penguins owning the Caps in the playoffs... Not saying all that much though because pretty much every team that has faced them in the first round has come away a winner over their roughly 25 years of playoffs history (the first 15 years of the franchises history they too were busy breaking all sorts of all time records for bad seasons, and consecutive misses of the playoffs.

Bitter? Me? No... believe it or not, I passed bitter well before they lost to the Redwings in a sweep of their one and only cup finals appearance... which BTW also had some sort of record attached to it, can't remember what it was... I think it may have been only team ever to not have a lead at any point in an entire cup finals... I passed "this blind squirrel has to find a nut sooner or later" and "god must hate the Capitals" 10 years ago, it's almost unimaginable that they are still doing it... Only I was using the term unimaginable 10 years ago...

Imagine if the Chicago cubs made the playoffs regularly for the last 30 years.... Instead of just being futile, they actually get their fan bases hopes up, and then they lose in the most creatively humiliating way possible, breaking all sorts of records, ones that are so unlikely that no one's ever needed to even mention them before (like top seed losing to an 8 seed after going up 3 games to 1)

Don't worry though... next season they will have a chance to be the first team ever to be a 1 seed and lose to a 8 seed in a sweep, or after going up 3 games to none, or in the first ever Game 7, 13 overtime game... It'll be something.

Sorry if you got this far you probably know where I'm coming from :(

[ihatedallas]

I realize the disappointment is overwhelming over last night, as I spent most of the night sulking. But you all are EXPECTING a loss tomm? Seriously? The Caps put 55 shots on Fing goal last night. They lost because that goalie was absolutely phenominal. The power play did not look awful, neither did any particular forward. That goalie outright stole this game from the Caps. While I am scared to death he is going to do it again, I also have watched this team all year and can say with absolute confidence they get more than 1 goal on the board Wednesday. Last nights game was not a pathetic performance by any means, I mean what the hell is a team supposed to do when they double a team in shots and only get a goal out of it.

Shots can be misleading but for the entire second and third periods it was the Washington Capitals vs Halak, the rest of the Canadiens had nothing to do with it. It was shooting practice and he was just on fire.

[cal_junior]

I realize the disappointment is overwhelming over last night, as I spent most of the night sulking. But you all are EXPECTING a loss tomm? Seriously? The Caps put 55 shots on Fing goal last night. They lost because that goalie was absolutely phenominal. The power play did not look awful, neither did any particular forward. That goalie outright stole this game from the Caps. While I am scared to death he is going to do it again, I also have watched this team all year and can say with absolute confidence they get more than 1 goal on the board Wednesday. Last nights game was not a pathetic performance by any means, I mean what the hell is a team supposed to do when they double a team in shots and only get a goal out of it.

Shots can be misleading but for the entire second and third periods it was the Washington Capitals vs Halak, the rest of the Canadiens had nothing to do with it. It was shooting practice and he was just on fire.

I agree with this for the most part, but the Capitals are also making it too easy for Halak. They are pressing and not forcing him to make even more difficult saves. The 5-on-3, for example, was ridiculous.

Flash missed a completely open net last night. That wasn't because of Halak.

[44 goes 50 gut]

Oh it's always something, it's very often the hot goalie... it's been every thing imaginable... the caps, the other team, bad calls, non-calls, the lack of this, the over abundance of that. The truth is I expect the Caps to lose in the playoffs for the same reason I expect my alarm clock to go off at 7:00... it always has before...

I sincerely hope that one of these days I'm actually wrong and they don't lose their final playoff game... I stopped holding out hope 12 or 14 years ago... Even when they went to the finals it was obvious they would lose the wings and the deep run was just more painful for it...

They always find the most painful way to lose, and last year it was losing to the Penguins for the eleventy billionth time (I know but it seems like that many times).

[44 goes 50 gut]

Lets put it in Skins fans perspective... imagine if the Skins spent from 1979 to 2010 being a playoff contender almost every season, making the playoffs most of those years, and even being a solid contender for championships 4 or 5 times (the past couple and a few during the Al Iafrate/Hatcher/Stevens/Langway years)... yet they never win one, and in 9 or 10 playoffs they are eliminated by the Cowboys in embarrassing record breaking ways (giving up 30 point leads in a single quarter, etc.) who go on to win multiple Superbowls in the same span...

Or imagine being a fan of the Vikings... that would work too and without the hypotheticals.. :(

[cal_junior]

Even when they went to the finals it was obvious they would lose the wings and the deep run was just more painful for it...

No offense, but if you thought that was a championship-caliber team the Caps had in 98 you were kidding yourself. That was a fantastic playoff run (the Buffalo series is one of my fonder memories as a DC-area sports fan) and getting to the finals was probably at least a round further than that team deserved to go.

A loss tomorrow would be entirely different than the past heartaches because this is probably the first time you could say with a straight face the Caps had the best team in hockey during the regular season. Not to mention they have a legit superstar and an elite supporting cast.

[BurgundyNGold]

Lets put it in Skins fans perspective... imagine if the Skins spent from 1979 to 2010 being a playoff contender almost every season, making the playoffs most of those years, and even being a solid contender for championships 4 or 5 times (the past couple and a few during the Al Iafrate/Hatcher/Stevens/Langway years)... yet they never win one, and in 9 or 10 playoffs they are eliminated by the Cowboys in embarrassing record breaking ways (giving up 30 point leads in a single quarter, etc.) who go on to win multiple Superbowls in the same span...
That would make them the Iggles. ;)

[ihatedallas]

I agree with this for the most part, but the Capitals are also making it too easy for Halak. They are pressing and not forcing him to make even more difficult saves. The 5-on-3, for example, was ridiculous.

Flash missed a completely open net last night. That wasn't because of Halak.

Obviously they did miss some easy chances but for the entire 60 minutes it really did look mostly Capitals. They came out of the gate fast, but then let up a PK goal and another quick one following it. The way I look at is this: The past 2 games have been entirely on Halaks shoulders, allowing 2 goals on 90 shots. Your expectations lie with the belief that the dam will break down and the capitals will put up 2-4 wed. I am in this boat..I said to myself following the game 1 loss that I didn't believe that the Habs could do that 3 more times. While they have won the last 2, I think montreals skaters looked bad in game 5 and probably even worse in game 6. Maybe Im just too optimistic, but I dont see how Montreal can pull that off again, miraculous goalie or not.

[cal_junior]

Your expectations lie with the belief that the dam will break down and the capitals will put up 2-4 wed. I am in this boat..I said to myself following the game 1 loss that I didn't believe that the Habs could do that 3 more times. While they have won the last 2, I think montreals skaters looked bad in game 5 and probably even worse in game 6. Maybe Im just too optimistic, but I dont see how Montreal can pull that off again, miraculous goalie or not.

What gives me hope (he says while crossing his fingers) is that unlike Game 5, the Caps came out really strong in Game 6 and for the most part kept it up the entire way. They played with the sense of urgency you have to have, but were obviously clutching the sticks a little tight

I don't think Halak is in the same class as a Miller or Bryzgalov, where if he's on there is nothing the other team can do. All the Caps need to do is keep up the pressure and execute a little better. If they do that Halak will not be able to keep them under 4-5 goals.

[ihatedallas]

For me, this 7 game series has gone in a cycle and I hope to god it continues. The Habs outplayed the Caps for 2 games, and teen eventually the bubble burst and the Caps showed their true colors for 2.

[44 goes 50 gut]

No offense, but if you thought that was a championship-caliber team the Caps had in 98 you were kidding yourself.
^^^
This has nothing to do with anything I wrote... not sure what your point is.


A loss tomorrow would be entirely different than the past heartaches because this is probably the first time you could say with a straight face the Caps had the best team in hockey during the regular season.

The caps have been contenders before including top of the eastern conference competing for the presidents trophy for a few years with names like Garts, Langway, The Wild thing, Dino etc. , apparently a little before your time I guess?

[BurgundyNGold]

^^^
This has nothing to do with anything I wrote... not sure what your point is.

The caps have been contenders before including top of the eastern conference competing for the presidents trophy for a few years with names like Garts, Langway, The Wild thing, Dino etc. , apparently a little before your time I guess?
Mike Gartner. Great memories. What, no love for Dennis Maruk? ;)

[cal_junior]

^^^
This has nothing to do with anything I wrote... not sure what your point is.

Did you not say that the deep run in the playoffs was "more painful" because they lost to the Wings? Why would a middle-of-pack team not winning a title be "more painful" unless you expected them to win the whole thing.

Wasn't getting to the finals that year awesome? It certainly should have been.

As to your second point: Please give me the year the Caps were widely considered the best team in hockey.

[cal_junior]

8 1/2 hours to game time. I don't care about the Caps even half as much as I do the Skins, but Game 7s in the SC Playoffs are as nerve-racking as anything in the NFL.

Hopefully they watched the Red Wings closely last night: The Cup only goes to the closers.

[ihatedallas]

I have been wavering between fear of disappointment and supreme confidence, as I get closer to the game its been almost all confidence. This team has had a swagger about it all season, and I don't think the tiny boys from Canada will be able to throw them off their goal.


In redskins forum win style i'm gunna keep it simple leading up to the game:

LETS GO CAPS! LETS KEEP IT GOING!

[Farmer Ted]

I see this game going one of two ways. 1. The Caps come out and stomp on them from the moment the puck drops. 2. They lose 2-1 in quadruple overtime. I'd be a lot happier if they just stomped on them.

[cal_junior]

I see this game going one of two ways. 1. The Caps come out and stomp on them from the moment the puck drops. 2. They lose 2-1 in quadruple overtime. I'd be a lot happier if they just stomped on them.

+1

I have little faith the Caps are pulling out a close one. They need to put this one away early and not let Halak build up confidence like he did last game.

The Caps have to crash the crease like MFs and make sure Halak can't see the puck well. I'll even take an early minor penalty for interference if it means they can get into the goalie's head.

[Patrick]

I see this game going one of two ways. 1. The Caps come out and stomp on them from the moment the puck drops. 2. They lose 2-1 in quadruple overtime. I'd be a lot happier if they just stomped on them. Right now it's 0-1 Montreal ...... That might be just how it ends up.

[BurgundyNGold]

Man, 2-0 with just ove 3:00 left in the 3rd. Not looking good at all. That #8 rallying from 3-1 against a #1 distinction is looking for a mantle.

[BurgundyNGold]

Of course, as soon as I post, the Caps score. 2-1 with 2:00 left. Lets go Caps!!!

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

Sorry guys but I'm thrilled with the Habs win. Reminds me of the Habs upsetting the Bruins in 1971. I would have never guessed this outcome. Ovechkin showed up small when his team needed him the most. However, Halak stole this series for the Habs.
Edit: was Semin even playing this series - just terrible.

[tuckahoeskin]

Caps were shootin' pool with a rope in this series. Deserved to lose. Couldn't control the puck. Couldn't make passes. Defensemen not hussling back to clear the puck. Deserved to lose.

[oldskinfan]

Sorry guys but I'm thrilled with the Habs win. Reminds me of the Habs upsetting the Bruins in 1971. I would have never guessed this outcome. Ovechkin showed up small when his team needed him the most. However, Halak stole this series for the Habs.
Edit: was Semin even playing this series - just terrible.

The Caps defense and goaltending was mediocre and you do not win playoff hockey like that. And we are reminded why Mike Green did not make the Canadian Olympic team.

I won't say the more talented team won, but the better TEAM won this series. And you can say all you want about it being cliche, but hot goalie trumps everything.

[Farmer Ted]

I nailed the score. Boo, me!

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

The Caps defense and goaltending was mediocre and you do not win playoff hockey like that. And we are reminded why Mike Green did not make the Canadian Olympic team.

I won't say the more talented team won, but the better TEAM won this series. And you can say all you want about it being cliche, but hot goalie trumps everything.
You are 100% correct. As in many sports sometimes the better coached harder working team wins as often as not. But nothing in sports compares to the effect a hot goalie can have on the outcome.

[tuckahoeskin]

You are 100% correct. As in many sports sometimes the better coached harder working team wins as often as not. But nothing in sports compares to the effect a hot goalie can have on the outcome.

Hot goalie or hot pitcher. Regardless, one man can seal the deal.

[LATrueRedskin]

http://www.entertonement.com/clips/vcnrwlgkrr--You-blew-it-Adam-Sandler-Billy-Madison

[native skin]

http://www.entertonement.com/clips/vcnrwlgkrr--You-blew-it-Adam-Sandler-Billy-Madison

LMAO!! That pretty much sums it up.

[ihatedallas]

People will inevitably say this loss comes down on Ovechkin, but he did everything he could to win this game, he put all of his heart and soul out there.

I've defended Mike Green before, but lord almighty his performance in this game will haunt him for the rest of his career. This was supposed to be his comeback year, and he was worse, imo.

The Caps best defenseman were their young studs, Alzner and Carlson, they played a tremendous game.

I don't see how Semins performance is being scrutinized so heavily...he is close to leading the league in SOG, its not as if hes not out there working and playing with passion.

Maybe its a gutwrench reaction, but I'm tiring of Boudreau. A good coach gets his team in line on the special teams eventually, and I think his record in the postseason, not the regular season is indicative of what he brings to the table. I used to believe, but I'm not so sure this system is designed to translate to consistent success.

Long offseason, and unlike last offseason this one will involve plenty of ugliness, and will involve, as necessary, quite a bit of finger pointing.

[skinfanjon]

Cal Jr.-

I'm sorry, bro. You were right, I was wrong. The power play deserted us at the most inopportune time, you were right to point it out but I simply didn't think we could lose this series. I was mistaken. Kornheiser has been saying it for years, and he's absolutely correct; the Caps are CHOKING DOGS. There's still a bright future for this team, but one of two things needs to happen immediately. Either Boudreau gets canned, or Green (and Maybe Semin) gets traded. I've seen enough. Get what you can for these non-clutch douches and move on. The sooner, the better.

I really thought this year was different, but this is the most heart-breaking loss yet. There is no sugar-coating it, the Caps are the anti-clutch.

Once again, Cal Jr., I apologize. I know you don't relish in being correct, but man do I have egg on my face.

[ihatedallas]

Cal Jr.-

I'm sorry, bro. You were right, I was wrong. The power play deserted us at the most inopportune time, you were right to point it out but I simply didn't think we could lose this series. I was mistaken. Kornheiser has been saying it for years, and he's absolutely correct; the Caps are CHOKING DOGS. There's still a bright future for this team, but one of two things needs to happen immediately. Either Boudreau gets canned, or Green (and Maybe Semin) gets traded. I've seen enough. Get what you can for these non-clutch douches and move on. The sooner, the better.

I really thought this year was different, but this is the most heart-breaking loss yet. There is no sugar-coating it, the Caps are the anti-clutch.

Once again, Cal Jr., I apologize. I know you don't relish in being correct, but man do I have egg on my face.



To me this comes down to BB and no one else. As a coach, you cant let a team with this much talent go that long without a goal, its ridiculous.

[skinfanjon]

Seriously Cal, my bad. You had it pegged the whole time, I just didn't want to believe it. I couldn't have been more wrong.

The last word I have on this season will be this...either Boudreau, Green, or Semin must go, and maybe two or all three. I've had it with this BS franchise, there's no excuse for this failure. The Pens are gonna win the cup (again), and it makes me physically ill. Puke.

And the no-goal was a good call. No complaints. (But we should have had a guy in fron to f the goaltender the entire series, not for one play in game 7. And this is why Boudreau should be fired.)

[skinfanjon]

To me this comes down to BB and no one else. As a coach, you cant let a team with this much talent go that long without a goal, its ridiculous.

Yup. I'm in. BB seems like the Doug Collins of this team (as compared to the Jordan Bulls), good enough to get them in the conversation, but not the right guy to lead them to the ring. Fire him, trade Green's bitch ass, keep Semin for one more year, and see what happens. I'm pretty sure anyone in this thread could lead the Cpas to 90 points, BB is useless.

[ihatedallas]

Im a 100 percent for pointing the finger at Bruce and Green, but I don't think Semin should get as much blame as he is getting. He is not completely absent in the playoffs, he had a goal in game 7 of the Rangers series. We needed a second line center the moment Federov left, and the make shift combination of Bmo and Belanger didnt work out in the end. Semin never got a chance to pay with any consistent linemates, and he was one of the hardest working capitals down the stretch.

[ihatedallas]

I cant get over Green. As I said earlier John Carlson is everything I hoped Mike Green would be.

One thing we found out in this playoffs is that we have one hell of a dman that can play NOW. Of all the capitals in the playoffs, only 8/9 showed up, the rookie was one of them. Alzner played one hell of a game tonight as well.

People will talk about our lack of defenseman, but the Caps lost the last 3 games because they couldnt SCORE. I get the feeling that BB doesn't make adjustments.

[skinfanjon]

Im a 100 percent for pointing the finger at Bruce and Green, but I don't think Semin should get as much blame as he is getting. He is not completely absent in the playoffs, he had a goal in game 7 of the Rangers series. We needed a second line center the moment Federov left, and the make shift combination of Bmo and Belanger didnt work out in the end. Semin never got a chance to pay with any consistent linemates, and he was one of the hardest working capitals down the stretch.

I somewhat agree with this, but results are results. He missed on several scoring chances that could had they gone differently would have put us in the second round. I can't believe I'm sitting here talking about making the second round. Ugh. He's a B+/A- player, so I hold him to those standards. He should have put one of those six or seven great chances from the last two games in the net. And frankly, OV came up small too. The effort was there, but just like Semin, he is held to a higher standard, and he didn't deliver. Green is on a different level, though. He cost us this series with his awful, awful play. I took heat from my firends when I said he shouldn't be on the Canadien olympic team; well, I think he proved why he fell short in this series.

[skinfanjon]

I'm done. If the equivalent happened to the Skins, I'd probably jump out my window. As it stands, I just want to sleep for a month.

[ihatedallas]

The Caps have decisions to make. One thing is for sure, Eric Fehr deserves more minutes next year. He is one player who comes up big in the playoffs. For me, flash can go, as can Bmo/Belnager/Corvo.

The caps need a second line center, and a dman.

That sentence is irritating because it is the same thing most people would have said last May.

[Biggie]

I don't know nearly as much about hockey as you all, so all I have to say is: Boudreau should spend less time doing crap commercials and more time getting his team ready to get around Halak.

[RedskinsDave]

To me this comes down to BB and no one else. As a coach, you cant let a team with this much talent go that long without a goal, its ridiculous.

He should be fired. He is the Marty Schottenheimer of hockey.

[ihatedallas]

He should be fired. He is the Marty Schottenheimer of hockey.

4 7 game series is a telling statistic. He cant win when he is ahead, or when he is behind. I can't watch the best team in DC waste precious years because the franchise continues to trust someone who talks too much and does too little.

[RedskinsDave]

4 7 game series is a telling statistic. He cant win when he is ahead, or when he is behind. I can't watch the best team in DC waste precious years because the franchise continues to trust someone who talks too much and does too little.

He did a good job when he came up from Hershey but he's over his head in the crunch. Frenchy du Chebag out-coached him badly with less than half the talent. If I even see someone eating a croissant tomorrow, I will punch him in the face.

[native skin]

I've been watching the Caps since the early 80's and I've seen every game 7 loss. This is the worst defeat I can remember. I say trade and fire every last one of them. OV is overrated when it comes to the post season, Semin is such an enigma and is a flat out pu**y , and Green is a liability. Let it sink in: we are the only #1 seed to lose to a #8 when up 3-1. The Caps are the supreme losers!

[native skin]

He did a good job when he came up from Hershey but he's over his head in the crunch. Frenchy du Chebag out-coached him badly with less than half the talent. If I even see someone eating a croissant tomorrow, I will punch him in the face.

Yeah! Freedom Fries!!

[shally]

The Caps defense and goaltending was mediocre and you do not win playoff hockey like that. And we are reminded why Mike Green did not make the Canadian Olympic team.

I won't say the more talented team won, but the better TEAM won this series. And you can say all you want about it being cliche, but hot goalie trumps everything.

insanely hot goalie
incredible shot blocking by the defense (they let almost nothing through)

why playoff hockey is so different that regular season hockey.. the Caps were built for the regular season, unlike teams like the Pens.. they have truly become the Eastern version of the San Jose Sharks

[Patrick]

This team was built to win the regular season not to win in the playoffs .....
Blow it up and start again Ted ...........:mad:

[csquared]

This thread is hillarious. Trade them all? Really? Fire Bruce? Really? Maybe some should use the 24 hour rule. No posting for 24 hours after a bad loss. This is a pretty young team. I'm not jumping ship on them yet. I do want a veteran defenseman though.

[native skin]

This thread is hillarious. Trade them all? Really? Fire Bruce? Really? Maybe some should use the 24 hour rule. No posting for 24 hours after a bad loss. This is a pretty young team. I'm not jumping ship on them yet. I do want a veteran defenseman though.

Haha! I suppose your right but I really don't see them getting better. What's the logic that they get over their game 7 slump in the future? Because they've lost game 7s in the past and they know what it takes to push through? Oh yeah, that was supposed to be this time around! Oops!

[RedskinsDave]

This thread is hillarious. Trade them all? Really? Fire Bruce? Really? Maybe some should use the 24 hour rule. No posting for 24 hours after a bad loss. This is a pretty young team. I'm not jumping ship on them yet. I do want a veteran defenseman though.

I don't think its unreasonable to want Bruce's head. His teams don't win when it matters.

Those losers just handed Pshittsburgh home ice too. As if losing wasn't bad enough.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

you guys are as crazy over the caps as you are over the skins are'nt you?

[ihatedallas]

This thread is hillarious. Trade them all? Really? Fire Bruce? Really? Maybe some should use the 24 hour rule. No posting for 24 hours after a bad loss. This is a pretty young team. I'm not jumping ship on them yet. I do want a veteran defenseman though.

I try to maintain a level head, but this year was different than the young team mantra. I just know that Bruce Boudreau has made any signficant strides in the last 3 postseasons.

[IH Brave]

I have a question for those who know about hockey than I do. (Which is probably everyone here). Does the Habs win vs the Pens make the Caps loss sting less? It seems like Montreal is legit. Their goalie is unreal.

[skinfanjon]

For me, yeah, a little bit. It still sucks, but it's like if the Skins went 15-1, lost in the first round of the playoffs at home, and the Cowboys went on to win the Super Bowl (that hurt just to type). It still really sucks that they got knocked out in the first round, but the same opponent beating Pittsburgh makes it a little more palatable to me. Montreal is playing some really good hockey and frankly I don't think we gave them enough credit. They will almost certainly be in the Finals against the winner of Chicago/San Jose.

[CarMike]

I have a question for those who know about hockey than I do. (Which is probably everyone here). Does the Habs win vs the Pens make the Caps loss sting less? It seems like Montreal is legit. Their goalie is unreal.

Not me. While I love seeing the PENiS lose, it doesn't make it any better knowing that the Caps lost in the first round after being up 3-1. It was a great season for the Caps, but losing in the first round hurts.

The Habs are riding a HOT goalie right now. If not for him, no way do they get past the Caps. With that said, he's definitely the difference right now. In the end, I don't think it matters who wins the East. The West is a lot stronger and should win the Cup 4-1. [Early prediction]

[RedskinsDave]

It does make it sting a little less and now my schaudenfreud is in full effect but it still doesn't excuse a 1 losing to an 8 after being up 3-1.

[Patrick]

I have a question for those who know about hockey than I do. (Which is probably everyone here). Does the Habs win vs the Pens make the Caps loss sting less? It seems like Montreal is legit. Their goalie is unreal.
Being THE #1 seed and losing in the first round ......... SUCKS - no matter how you slice it. :mad:

[rskinsfan10]

It does make it sting a little less and now my schaudenfreud is in full effect but it still doesn't excuse a 1 losing to an 8 after being up 3-1.My sentiments as well.

[Ibleedburgundy]

I'm just sick of the folks who credit one player with winning a championship, let alone when he is not the highest or even the 3rd highest scoring player on his team. They can all have a nice tall glass of STFU. 2 goals in seven games.

[cal_junior]

I'm just sick of the folks who credit one player with winning a championship, let alone when he is not the highest or even the 3rd highest scoring player on his team. They can all have a nice tall glass of STFU. 2 goals in seven games.

Who are you talking about?

[cal_junior]

The Habs are riding a HOT goalie right now. If not for him, no way do they get past the Caps. With that said, he's definitely the difference right now.

You are not alone in this feeling, but I really think it was more about the Canadiens defense than Halak.

In those 3-4 games where he was peppered with shots, almost all of them were ones he could see. The Habs defenders did a fantastic job of blocking shots before they could get to Halak and making sure there was no traffic in front of the net.

Halak was was very solid in the Washington series, but I think the Caps were more to blame. They did a terrible job of forcing him to make more difficult saves.

In retrospect I think it was obvious Lars and Green were injured for the final three games of that series.

[ihatedallas]

Who are you talking about?

Crosby, I believe. He had a down right awful Montreal series. All the talk about him being the best on the planet vs. Ottawa came a screeching halt.

[cal_junior]

Crosby, I believe. He had a down right awful Montreal series. All the talk about him being the best on the planet vs. Ottawa came a screeching halt.

I ask because you said "2 goals in seven games." Crosby only scored once against the Habs.

Crosby didn't play very well in the Olympics, either. He just happened to come up with the game-winning goal and that's all anybody remembers.

[ihatedallas]

I ask because you said "2 goals in seven games." Crosby only scored once against the Habs.

Crosby didn't play very well in the Olympics, either. He just happened to come up with the game-winning goal and that's all anybody remembers.

I know Crosby only had 1, and 1 even strength point to boot. I was just guessing on behalf of IBB.

He was being treated like a god for carving up Ottawa. When looking at each of their Montreal series, Ovechkin badly outplayed him.

[cal_junior]

He was being treated like a god for carving up Ottawa. When looking at each of their Montreal series, Ovechkin badly outplayed him.

I think the gap between the two is greater than most people understand. A pair of team accomplishments, the Stanley Cup and the gold medal, is the only reason Ovie isn't the overwhelming national choice as the game's best player.

[CarMike]

I think the gap between the two is greater than most people understand. A pair of team accomplishments, the Stanley Cup and the gold medal, is the only reason Ovie isn't the overwhelming national choice as the game's best player.
That, and Crosby is a Canadian.

The NHL is ran by Canada IMO. The NHL Network has "Hockey in Canada" on Saturday nights. Most of the people who talk hockey are from Canada.

And I agree with you on the Habs Defense. They played very well. However, if Price had started game 5, 6, or 7, the Caps would have won the series. Halak was the difference as he was in the PENiS series. With that said, their defense did a very nice job in blocking shots.

[CarMike]

Who are you talking about?

I could be wrong, but I think he's talking about Ovie.

[cal_junior]

I could be wrong, but I think he's talking about Ovie.

He was referring to Crosby. And I agree with him. Crosby and Ovie faced the same team, both were let-down by their supporting cast (Malkin was atrocious against the Habs) and we saw the results.

Ovechkin vs. Montreal: 5 goals, 5 assists
Crosby vs. Montreal: 1 goal, 4 assists

It will take a Cup before Ovie is considered a true champion, but maybe this last week will calm the nonsense that "Crosby is a winner, Ovie is a choker."