hR Official Gameday Thread: Bucs--@--Redskins

[CarMike]

HTTR

[fent]

I was supposed to get Giants/Vikings here in Austin...anyone know where I can check to see who I get now? Hoping it's our game because of the NFCE connection, but not holding out hope.

[Goskins11]

I was supposed to get Giants/Vikings here in Austin...anyone know where I can check to see who I get now? Hoping it's our game because of the NFCE connection, but not holding out hope.

I can't believe that they got stuck in KC. I'm hoping they play the game in my area also because the eagles are a monday night game. (i live in lancaster , pa) about an hour and a half away from philly.

[shally]

I can't believe that they got stuck in KC. I'm hoping they play the game in my area also because the eagles are a monday night game. (i live in lancaster , pa) about an hour and a half away from philly.

heavy snow here. could use a streaming link if anyone can supply one for me.. roads werent plowed last night so it is real iffy to get to a sports bar

[Goskins11]

heavy snow here. could use a streaming link if anyone can supply one for me.. roads werent plowed last night so it is real iffy to get to a sports bar

Shally, this site usually works for me. http://atdhe.net/

[cal_junior]

White pants today. Boooooo

AP writer Joseph White said this might be least traffic he's ever seen for a home game.

[CarMike]

I was supposed to get Giants/Vikings here in Austin...anyone know where I can check to see who I get now? Hoping it's our game because of the NFCE connection, but not holding out hope.

http://the506.com/sports/?tag=2010-week-14

Doesn't look good for you fent. Looks like you get the Detroit / Chicago game.

[cal_junior]

I was supposed to get Giants/Vikings here in Austin...anyone know where I can check to see who I get now?

http://the506.com/sports/?p=458

[shally]

Shally, this site usually works for me. http://atdhe.net/

thanks. will try it...i think i used it once before and it worked pretty well for most of the game

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

is it raining at fed ex field yet?:giantsuk:

[GenMgr]

Redskins.com

Redskins inactives are in: WR Austin, CB Rogers, S Landry, RB Brown, OL Cook, G Dockery, DE Jarmon. Beck is 3QB.

[fent]

http://the506.com/sports/?tag=2010-week-14

Doesn't look good for you fent. Looks like you get the Detroit / Chicago game.

What kind of sense does that make? Why in the world do they think Texas cares about the Pack or the Lions? Think the Cowboys' fans want to root for Detroit for draft pick benefits??

[IH Brave]

According to Jay Glazer on the Fox Sunday Pre Game show, the Redskins are prepared to insert Grossman today if McNabb is struggling.

[cal_junior]

Redskins.com
Redskins inactives are in: WR Austin, CB Rogers, S Landry, RB Brown, OL Cook, G Dockery, DE Jarmon. Beck is 3QB.


Gosh darnit. I still think we'll win, but without Landry in there I'm a lot less confident.

[shally]

According to Jay Glazer on the Fox Sunday Pre Game show, the Redskins are prepared to insert Grossman today if McNabb is struggling.

preview of next year ??

Grossman starts while the Redskins develop a young QB ?? McNabb gets dealt

[cal_junior]

According to Jay Glazer on the Fox Sunday Pre Game show, the Redskins are prepared to insert Grossman today if McNabb is struggling.

Can't say I blame them. McNabb was awful in NY. Hopefully it won't come to that

[IH Brave]

Can't say I blame them. McNabb was awful in NY. Hopefully it won't come to that

I'm not sure what to think of the decision if it came down to it. A part of me find it hard to believe that McNabb all of a sudden became awful in one offseason. Plus we'd be inserting Rex Gross Man. I'm glad I'm not a coach and have to make that decision.

[cal_junior]

I'm not sure what to think of the decision if it came down to it. A part of me find it hard to believe that McNabb all of a sudden became awful in one offseason. Plus we'd be inserting Rex Gross Man. I'm glad I'm not a coach and have to make that decision.

McNabb was unable to even fall down without turning the ball over last week. If we're losing and he throws a couple 1H picks I have no problem with making a change.

[Goskins11]

does this mean Mcnabb is done in D.C. or is this a ploy to pump him up for the game?

[shally]

McNabb was unable to even fall down without turning the ball over last week. If we're losing and he throws a couple 1H picks I have no problem with making a change.

+1

this time Rexy might have a little advance notice and be able to call running plays as well..

[shally]

does this mean Mcnabb is done in D.C. or is this a ploy to pump him up for the game?

50/50

he has a 4 game audition righ now, maybe even less if he continues to throw passes into the dirt and fumble while trying to slide

[JasonCampbell]

Not playing Austin, but playing Roydell Williams...SMH

Not playing Jarmon, but playing any of the old DEs...SMH

I just don't understand.

[tuckahoeskin]

That video of the roof collapsing at the Metrodome was incredible.

[Goskins11]

this team loves drama...

[cal_junior]

this team loves drama...

If you're talking about Grossman I wouldn't call it drama. The coaches were reportedly very up front about the possibility during the week and both QBs got reps in practice.

That's the right way to handle it, IMO

[Lavar703]

does this mean Mcnabb is done in D.C. or is this a ploy to pump him up for the game?

I think it means regardless of media criticism Shanny is going to find a way to make his team better. If he thinks he made a mistake on McNabb then he's going to take the steps to get his QB in the draft this off-season. Now I am in no way implying Grossman is better than McNabb but Donovan has looked very different this year and personally I think he's been injured all year and possibly hurting a lot more than he's been letting on.

[JasonCampbell]

If you're talking about Grossman I wouldn't call it drama. The coaches were reportedly very up front about the possibility during the week and both QBs got reps in practice.

That's the right way to handle it, IMO

Willingly playing Rex Grossman shouldn't ever be considered the right way to handle anything, lol.

[shally]

I think it means regardless of media criticism Shanny is going to find a way to make his team better. If he thinks he made a mistake on McNabb then he's going to take the steps to get his QB in the draft this off-season. Now I am in no way implying Grossman is better than McNabb but Donovan has looked very different this year and personally I think he's been injured all year and possibly hurting a lot more than he's been letting on.

maybe..and mmaybe he has just gotten old and degraded like Brunell

[Goskins11]

we still can't stop the run

[cal_junior]

we still can't stop the run

Agreed. 3-and-outs are terrible

[cal_junior]

Torain, baby

[jaylen]

Torain with the huge run.

[Goskins11]

good run

[jaylen]

bad run by Torain on the screen he keeps it outside he's still running.

[cal_junior]

Not a good ball there. High

[Lavar703]

maybe..and mmaybe he has just gotten old and degraded like Brunell

That's very possible Shally. I would say if thats the case then our OL has definitely sped up the process.

[Rogers_Redskins]

Why the hell does McNabb skip short passes?

[cal_junior]

McNAbb one-hops a wide open Cooley. And we mis a short kick

Awesome

[jaylen]

Mcnabb skips another one to Cooley.

[Goskins11]

big third down and a skip pass......

[Lavar703]

LOL

[Rogers_Redskins]

Guano is gone after this season, if not sooner.

[jaylen]

and then the miss short fg.

we're a bad team we simply do everything every bad team does consistently lol

[cal_junior]

Guano is gone after this season, if not sooner.

Starting to look that way. The kicking jinx in DC continues

[Goskins11]

gano needs to go imo. he's 50/50.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

my 13 year old son,can throw a better spiral and short pass than mcnabb!:giantsuk:

[JasonCampbell]

Why the hell does McNabb skip short passes?

Poor mechanics which he has no desire to change.

I hate Gano and have no faith in him ever.

[skinsfan36]

im so sick of wide open guys getting bounce passes. this isn't basketball donovan

[cal_junior]

Come on, Rocky

[skinsfan36]

wow kareem moore may be worse than reed doughty

[jaylen]

Moore sucks

[Lavar703]

I think its time we drafted a QB

[tuckahoeskin]

Come on, Rocky

Absolutely right. He's the reason Blount broke that run.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

I hate Gano and have no faith in him ever.

and he's the best kicker we have had in a long time that's what makes it so pathetic!
i may puke having to listen to moose and goose all damn day long!:giantsuk:

[cal_junior]

All of a sudden we're clutch on 3rd-and-1. I like it

[RedskinsDave]

and he's the best kicker we have had in a long time that's what makes it so pathetic!
i may puke having to listen to moose and goose all damn day long!:giantsuk:

Glad to know I'm not missing anything. My buddy's slingbox is muted.

[tuckahoeskin]

and he's the best kicker we have had in a long time that's what makes it so pathetic!
i may puke having to listen to moose and goose all damn day long!:giantsuk:

Unless we somehow get a lead. They loves dem some momentum!

[cal_junior]

Torain is the truth

[cal_junior]

Another huge run. The O-Line is winning

[skinsfan36]

should of picked up torain again in fantasy

[tuckahoeskin]

I really hope Torrain stays healthy.

[Lavar703]

91 yards on 5 carries

[cal_junior]

lmao, Torain had 101 yards running

[tuckahoeskin]

Dammit. 10 yard run hurts his YPC average!

[skinsfan36]

stay healthy torian please

[Lavar703]

I really hope Torrain stays healthy.

"fingers crossed"

[jaylen]

great running by Torain

[tuckahoeskin]

I wonder if the cold, rainy day is having an impact on the Bucs?

[Rogers_Redskins]

Davis is horrible at picking up the blitz.

[jaylen]

gee thanks james davis for whiffing on your block

[RedskinsDave]

McNabb almost threw a touchdown. For Tamper but still.

[skinsfan36]

he is terrible at throwing the ball away on purpose,he should just try to throw it to someones feet

[cal_junior]

Good thing we abandoned the run there

[Rogers_Redskins]

They can run block but can't pass block.

[Lavar703]

Can't hold the ball that long

[Lavar703]

he is terrible at throwing the ball away on purpose,he should just try to throw it to someones feet

How ironic that he can't throw the ball at someones feet when he's actually trying to throw it away.

[skinsfan36]

Can't hold the ball that long

exactly that was campbellesce.
btw what team can have 100 yds rushing in the 1st qtr and the score still be zero zero ugh!

[tuckahoeskin]

he is terrible at throwing the ball away on purpose,he should just try to throw it to someones feet

He was probably thinking that, but couldn't find Cooley quick enough. :garcia:

[cal_junior]

exactly that was campbellesce.
btw what team can have 100 yds rushing in the 1st qtr and the score still be zero zero ugh!

McNabb missing Cooley on that third down on the first drive was inexcusable. play of the game so far.

[mexskins]

Hi guys, I'm surprised we are running the ball so successful too.

[skinsfan36]

is all saunders their oc? there is way too much motion going on

[cal_junior]

grounding?

[cal_junior]

DHall does his Carlos impression

[tuckahoeskin]

D saw six. Damn.....

[skinsfan36]

oh man he will get one later.

[Lavar703]

There keeping the candle lit for Carlos Rogers I see

[mexskins]

Oh, Hall was thinking 6!!!!

[RedskinsDave]

I think we have -14 interceptions this year.

[skinsfan36]

grounding?

cal you have watched every game this year. you know we dont get those calls lol

[jaylen]

Dhall needed to make that int. Orakpo needed that sack we are just a few inches off at making big plays

[tuckahoeskin]

I think we have -14 interceptions this year.

Carlos' agent says that's good enough to get P-A-I-D!!!! :smash:

[cal_junior]

cal you have watched every game this year. you know we dont get those calls lol

True, lol

[firehawk157]

grounding?

Exactly, he has to get the ball back to the LOS in that case. I didn't see anyone in the vicnity... Has Orakpo screwed every ref's wife in the offseason?

[cal_junior]

Torain for 12 more. Unreal

[jaylen]

is this Jim Brown or Torain lol

[cal_junior]

And 4 more. No more passing KS, please

[cal_junior]

Holy crap a first down completion

[skinsfan36]

moss makes a catch then runs backwards nice

[jaylen]

Mcnabb tried to throw it in the dirt lol Moss snagged it away from the dirts hands.

[tuckahoeskin]

Goose sounds disappointed the Tampa's D is playing sloppy. He seemed so impressed with them in the pre-game show. Too bad for him. Enjoy the rain, pal.

[firehawk157]

Mcnabb tried to throw it in the dirt lol Moss snagged it away from the dirts hands.

Santana Moss, INT?

[cal_junior]

This game eerily reminiscent of the first half in Chicago. Both sides dominant, nothing to show for it

[tuckahoeskin]

moss makes a catch then runs backwards nice

At least he didn't spin the ball without being touched. Thankfully.

[jaylen]

Santana Moss, INT?

lol

[firehawk157]

Goose sounds disappointed the Tampa's D is playing sloppy. He seemed so impressed with them in the pre-game show. Too bad for him. Enjoy the rain, pal.

Don't forget rule #1 of announcing a Skins game. It's not what the Skins do, it's what the other team doesn't.

[cal_junior]

Key 3rd and 5 here

[skinsfan36]

cmon mcnabb earn your keep 3rd and 5

[jaylen]

alittle fred davis here.

[cal_junior]

Great call, Kyle, Great call

[Lavar703]

There is no need to throw the ball at all

[tuckahoeskin]

Don't forget rule #1 of announcing a Skins game. It's not what the Skins do, it's what the other team doesn't.

That's a Sticky THread on the telecasters message boards. :readme:

[cal_junior]

Torain is a HOFer right now, 138 yards so far

[Lavar703]

Torain is a beast. I think he could be great if he could stay healthy

[skinsfan36]

man this is mikes offense today

[jaylen]

lol Rabach whiffs right on time. lol

[cal_junior]

Goose just said "Finally" when the Bucs made a stop.

What a joke

[Skaggsrules]

Have we passed our highest rushing total for a game this season yet?

[skinsfan36]

if casey rabach wasnt it torain could already have 190

[firehawk157]

Torain is a HOFer right now, 138 yards so far

If we had a breakaway threat at RB, we'd have three TDs already.

[cal_junior]

I'm sure we won't need that TO later in the half.

[tuckahoeskin]

Goose just said "Finally" when the Bucs made a stop.

What a joke

No bias there. None at all.

[skinsfan36]

There is no need to throw the ball at all

maybe some playaction but mcnabb is throwing everything low so yeah just run it

[firehawk157]

Torain is a beast. I think he could be great if he could stay healthy

Let's get an HR fund going to get him enrolled in Yoga:sun:

[jaylen]

If we had a breakaway threat at RB, we'd have three TDs already.

I agree with this the gaps were there a back with speed could have scored easily especially on that 55 yard run.

[skinsfan36]

wow kyle called that play what a douche

[jaylen]

terrible play call just awful

[cal_junior]

Go for it. Who cares

[RedskinsDave]

One step forward, eight steps back.

[Lavar703]

Really?

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

Why can't we run like this all the time?
Edit: why can't we get a decent FG kicker?

[cal_junior]

Gano will be cut this week

[skinsfan36]

the red zone woes=kfeds awful cute playcalling.
gano is gone what a bum

[jaylen]

then on 3rd and goal we give up and run the ball. lol come on with this crap. Shanny is incompetent. we need to stop making excuses about it.

missed fg. lol

Gano sucks

[skins4life24]

<lowers head in shame and sobs to himself>

[Lavar703]

I agree with this the gaps were there a back with speed could have scored easily especially on that 55 yard run.


The guy has over 130 yards rushing in the first half and we're still complaining. Gano is cursed, he's done as a kicker.

[tuckahoeskin]

Ga-nope!

[JasonCampbell]

http://static.ragamuffinsoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/1277323396-trump-youre-fired.jpg

[mexskins]

Cut the kicker now!!!

[skinsfan36]

Go for it. Who cares

going to need to because gano has turned into suisham

[firehawk157]

the red zone woes=kfeds awful cute playcalling.
gano is gone what a bum

Inexcusable. Two EASY kicks missed. Most flag football teams in the league I play in would make that kick.

[skins4life24]

if moss actually catches that pass we are right next to the goal line and can run it in. I blame this on moss not the play call.

[RedskinsDave]

Just cut the POS. What do we have to lose?

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I hate this team. I don't really have much else to offer right now.

[firehawk157]

The guy has over 130 yards rushing in the first half and we're still complaining. Gano is cursed, he's done as a kicker.

I'm not complaining about Torian, we're remarking how nobody in the FO seems to care about a gamebreaker at that position. Every skill position, except TE, needs a homerun threat IMO.

[Redskin-4-life]

Totally dominating the game and no points to show for it. Amazing.:smash:

[cal_junior]

going to need to because gano has turned into suisham

Even if the kicker wasn't terrible - 5-7, defense looks great. Even if you dong get it their pinned inside the 5.

This is a game to gamble

[jaylen]

if moss actually catches that pass we are right next to the goal line and can run it in. I blame this on moss not the play call.

he was hit as soon as the ball arrived.

[HAWGZHEAD]

if moss actually catches that pass we are right next to the goal line and can run it in. I blame this on moss not the play call.

The shovel pass? He never made it past the LOS

[skinsfan36]

nice play carriker

[cal_junior]

Totally dominating the game and no points to show for it. Amazing.:smash:

Like I said earlier: Chicago, Take 2

[firehawk157]

if moss actually catches that pass we are right next to the goal line and can run it in. I blame this on moss not the play call.

I believe Moss was getting HIT at the time.

[cal_junior]

Defense p laying great. Offense blocking well. Should be 10-0 or 14-0 right now

Instead . . . .

[jaylen]

how is that not a hold

[FightforoldDC]

I have a very bad feeling that we are going to try and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory at the end of this thing.

[cal_junior]

Buchanan !!!!!

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

you know,it's the same song,but orakpo gets held every damn play!:giantsuk::giantsuk:

[HAWGZHEAD]

Nice play by Hall. He is always going for the ball and sometimes it works out

[skinsfan36]

hall striped that and then recovered it. how can anyone still dislike him. hes a playmaker

[Lavar703]

I don't care what anybody says, DHall is worth every penny he's been paid by this franchise.

[jaylen]

great play by hall after not being able to make the tackle. lol his softness actually helped us there.

[mexskins]

I have a very bad feeling that we are going to try and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory at the end of this thing.

Hahaha, I was thinking about it too.

[tuckahoeskin]

D. Hall punched it out and recovered. Great play. Defense is playing like they know they can feast on this Bucs O. Keep it up.

[Redskin-4-life]

I don't care what anybody says, DHall is worth every penny he's been paid by this franchise.

He's the only playmaker we have

[cal_junior]

hall striped that and then recovered it. how can anyone still dislike him. hes a playmaker

Thought it was 31. Have to wait on replay

Nope, you were right. All 23.

[skins4life24]

The shovel pass? He never made it past the LOS

because he had to cut off his momentum and jump for it, if delivered properly and caught there was an inside seem and the lineman is safely behind him.

[jaylen]

you know,it's the same song,but orakpo gets held every damn play!:giantsuk::giantsuk:

I don't undferstand how you can grab a player by the neck and not get called for holding .

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

Defense p laying great. Offense blocking well. Should be 10-0 or 14-0 right now

Instead . . . .

or at the very least,6-0!

[HAWGZHEAD]

because he had to cut off his momentum and jump for it, if delivered properly and caught there was an inside seem and the lineman is safely behind him.
Too many ifs. It was a crap play call

[mexskins]

Terrible tackling by DHall, followed by a great play.

[RedskinsDave]

Complete domination with nothing to show for it. This team finds new ways to suck every week.

[cal_junior]

Four down territory. No more kicks

[jaylen]

we're in missed Fg range.

[tuckahoeskin]

Play action working now.

[cal_junior]

1st and goal at the 6

Four runs here, Kyle. Four GD runs

[FightforoldDC]

Here are the options: Downhill center, left or right.

[skinsfan36]

on 4th down landry should tackle gano if he trys to run out there

[skins4life24]

Too many ifs. It was a crap play call

I don't think it is too much for a play to be run properly and well timed then again we are talking about the redskins.

[jaylen]

Moss has the stupidest season of any wr going his numbers look solid but his actual play has been terrible.

[cal_junior]

3rd and goal from 3

Torain time

[skins4life24]

2 runs right off trent williams here on 3rd and 4th

[jaylen]

that screen was never gonna work I might have put Banks out there for that sorta screen.

[HAWGZHEAD]

3rd and goal from 3

Torain time
Yeah right lol

[cal_junior]

Go for it.

Go for it

Go for it

[skinsfan36]

go for it!

[tuckahoeskin]

4th and goal at the 1'-0" line. GO for it.

[Goskins11]

go for it

[cal_junior]

TD, nice

[tuckahoeskin]

Logan Paulsen TOUCHDOWN MACHINE!!!!

[Lavar703]

Why is Joe Gibbs with Danny?

[jaylen]

td about time

[FightforoldDC]

Paulsen!!!!!!

[HAWGZHEAD]

Damn that even fooled me. I thought run for sure>

[Goskins11]

touchdown!!!!! Good play call that time!

[tuckahoeskin]

Ga-Nope almost missed the PAT!

[cal_junior]

Fantasy owners across the country say: "Paulsen?"

[RedskinsDave]

Okay, you can miss the extra point Gano. It won't matter now.

[firehawk157]

Good playcall there IMO. Who would have guessed Logan Paulsen?

[skinsfan36]

nice play!1st career TD for paulsen

[Goskins11]

gano almost missed the extra

[tuckahoeskin]

Fantasy owners across the country say: "Paulsen?"

His name was Robert Paulsen.

[FightforoldDC]

GaNO cannot hit it straight.

[cal_junior]

Why is Joe Gibbs with Danny?

Coach Joe and Dan are boys. Always seemed to get along

[RedskinsDave]

Fantasy owners across the country say: "Paulsen?"

Go look who caught a TD for Buffalo and you will do the same thing.

[Skaggsrules]

Anyone else notice Rabach almost getting pushed back all the way into McNabb?

[cal_junior]

Go look who caught a TD for Buffalo and you will do the same thing.

Saw that. I'm a Fred Jackson owner and was furious

[Goskins11]

His name was Robert Paulsen.

lol..fight club?

[FightforoldDC]

Paulsen -- big and smart. Big time scholar-athlete.

[mexskins]

Anyone else notice Rabach almost getting pushed back all the way into McNabb?

Yep, I can't wait to get rid of him.

[jaylen]

need to move Cooley for some picks Davis and Paulsen will do just fine.

[tuckahoeskin]

lol..fight club?

yeah. Now that damn chant is going through my head.

[cal_junior]

aaaaaaand DH gets torched for 65 yards

sigh

[Goskins11]

he got burned....

[jaylen]

lol Dhall smoked deep

[RedskinsDave]

need to move Cooley for some picks Davis and Paulsen will do just fine.

Easy there.

[Lavar703]

It must be nice to have two big WR who actually come through during there rookie year.

[skinsfan36]

blount ball security looks suspect still

[skinsfan36]

It must be nice to have two big WR who actually come through during there rookie year.

or at all ever lol

[cal_junior]

The guys up front on defense look good today. I'm impressed

[cal_junior]

Great stand there.

Skins will still be up 13-3. Oh wait . . .

[Goskins11]

nice defense

[skins4life24]

actually impressed Doughty didn't get burned by KW

[RedskinsDave]

I would send this team a Christmas present but they would probably light it on fire and take a dump on it before they even opened it.

[tuckahoeskin]

On that replay, Doughty was covering Winslow. How could they have NOT gone after him?

Hey, a made FG. How 'bout that.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

What, you can make short FG's today?

[Goskins11]

nice to see a guy who can make a kick

[usafaf1]

see that Gano? you aim for the middle

[skinsfan36]

The guys up front on defense look good today. I'm impressed

getting more reps with haynesworthless not around?

[mexskins]

Come on Banks! Take it to the house!!!

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Two minute drive coming up. Great.

[cal_junior]

getting more reps with haynesworthless not around?

Certainly a possibility. It's working so far

[jaylen]

Hall is supposed to have great speed but why he is getting run past .

[cal_junior]

Sellers refuses to pitch it to the fast guy. Sigh

[Goskins11]

good field position hopefully they'll get some points

[cal_junior]

Torain is Jim Brown

[Lavar703]

Gerald McCoy must really be a beast

[Goskins11]

he looks real good if he can stay healthy

[skinsfan36]

nice run torain.

[tuckahoeskin]

Torrain is running like it's high school. Impressive so far.

[jaylen]

another great run. is Torain gonna set the rushing record today lol

[cal_junior]

Maybe it's the second Mountain Dew talking, but I'm predicting a 14-3 halftime score

[cal_junior]

1st and and goal at the 5. Torain time

[jaylen]

great screen call

[Lavar703]

How is Torain supposed to break the rushing record if we keep throwing the ball?

[skins4life24]

Rabach and Kory killed that guy on the outside

[cal_junior]

Williams? Why?

[FightforoldDC]

Run it right, center or left. If you have to, throw in a screen. End of story.

[Goskins11]

come on get 14 on the board

[Chief Seeway]

The bucs head coach doesn't look all there

[cal_junior]

Is Torain hurt? What is happening?

[FightforoldDC]

Where is Torrain?