DFA: Lockout Mock

[akhhorus]

Guff on! (http://draftacademy.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/lockout-mock/)


The rest of the skins’ picks:
No trades, this draft is assuming no movement prior to the draft due to a lockout.
2nd: Marcus Cannon OL TCU. He’s probably a RG, but he could be pressed into RT duty.
5th(natural): Mike Blanc DL Auburn. Boom/bust pick. Blanc has the talent and the physical ability, its just a question of how much he can stay on the field(injuries+conditioning)
5th(from New Orleans): Greg McEloy QB Alabama. A project QB who replaces Rex or Beck.
6th: Eric Hagg FS Nebraska. Low talent, but another hard worker.
7th(natural): Rob McGill OT Louisiana Tech. Good size and speed. Small school and raw though.
7th(from Indy): Terron Sanders NT Florida. A major project, but he has the physical tools.

[Lavar703]

I know you dislike Bowers but he put up enormous numbers this year regardless of the competition and he will go in the top 10. It blows me away that you can justify dropping Bowers down your board for poor play yet you continue to mock Barksdale as a first round pick even though he underachieved quite a bit at LSU.

I don't really see anyway Fox passes on Dareus as they move back to a 4-3 defense and there need for stout interior defenders will be great but then again I don't see anyway Dareus falls out of the top 5 considering he is just as talented as Gerald McCoy.

Mike Pouncey struggled far too much this year for him to go in the top 15 but if there is a reach to occur in the first you could be right on the with the player, doubt that's the team to make the move though.

As much as I like Leonard Hankerson he is going to have to have the combine of a life-time to become a first round pick. He is Reggie Wayne all over again and sadly he will get passed over in the draft because he is not flashy and not incredibly fast.

Whether I agree with your picks or not you do a fine job as always and I really look forward to analyzing your mock drafts and such. Congratz on Clowney and keep up the good work.:)

[akhhorus]

I know you dislike Bowers but he put up enormous numbers this year regardless of the competition and he will go in the top 10. It blows me away that you can justify dropping Bowers down your board for poor play yet you continue to mock Barksdale as a first round pick even though he underachieved quite a bit at LSU.

I'll agree that Bowers had a better season than Barksdale, but its about how they'll be as NFL players. Bowers, despite all the slobbering over him, just isn't a good NFL prospect. He also was a LDE at Clemson, which will mitigate the sack total he put up(and they're also pretty aware of the complete lack of correlation between college sack totals and NFL success). I'm amazed when McSh*tforbrains and Kiper drool all over him, they clearly didn't watch him. I suspect that at the end of the day, NFL teams don't value him as much as the punditocracy does. Its very curious that he suddenly let it leak that he had a "minor knee scope" a month ago. I also suspect that his agent is worried that he's going to have a bad combine and start dropping in everyone's eyes.


I don't really see anyway Fox passes on Dareus as they move back to a 4-3 defense and there need for stout interior defenders will be great but then again I don't see anyway Dareus falls out of the top 5 considering he is just as talented as Gerald McCoy.

If they're going defender, it'll be a CB(their secondary is a wreck) I bet. They need a DT for sure and Dareus is a top 10 pick.

Mike Pouncey struggled far too much this year for him to go in the top 15 but if there is a reach to occur in the first you could be right on the with the player, doubt that's the team to make the move though.

Pouncey's struggles seemed to be more about playing center when he struggles with that. Blocking-wise he was fantastic.

As much as I like Leonard Hankerson he is going to have to have the combine of a life-time to become a first round pick. He is Reggie Wayne all over again and sadly he will get passed over in the draft because he is not flashy and not incredibly fast.


If he runs anything faster than a 4.45, he's a first rounder. His senior bowl really helped him.

Whether I agree with your picks or not you do a fine job as always and I really look forward to analyzing your mock drafts and such. Congratz on Clowney and keep up the good work.

Thanks man.

[Dolla Bill]

At least McElroy will have someone familiar to throw to.

[skinsfan36]

nice job. so you think mcnabb stays if there is a prolonged lockupt to throw to jones?

[Emmanouel8]

Good mock, disappointed to see Taylor move up but what are your thoughts on Stanzi/Dalton breaking into the 1st round if they have a good combine and wonderlic?

[akhhorus]

nice job. so you think mcnabb stays if there is a prolonged lockupt to throw to jones?

The longer a lockout goes on, the higher the chance McNabb starts for the Skins with Rex a UFA.

Good mock, disappointed to see Taylor move up but what are your thoughts on Stanzi/Dalton breaking into the 1st round if they have a good combine and wonderlic?

Stanzi is more likely to do so--but he won't sneak that high into the first. Dalton's ceiling right now is probably late 30s.

[DaveKShape]

just curious - why do you think thomas is done? not really familiar with how acl tears affect WR performance. also, why pick up green over some secondary help? they do have brandon "pro bowl" lloyd, afterall!

[akhhorus]

just curious - why do you think thomas is done? not really familiar with how acl tears affect WR performance. also, why pick up green over some secondary help? they do have brandon "pro bowl" lloyd, afterall!

Thomas tore his achillies. That kills your speed for a long time. Lloyd had a good season, but I think it was smoke and mirrors. He had Royal and Thomas spreading things out and their offense was designed to get the ball to him. McZorn is gone and they need a #1 WR instead of having 3 #2s.

[dogfight6]

Great Job as always. What do you think Of Clay Matthews little brother at ILB.

[Patrick]

Can't disagree with going with the WR in the first round. Filling any position of need is a plus for the Skins (although WR they don't do well on). The only thing I'd tweek in this version is putting in Wisniewski (if he were there) for Cannon. ....... Cannon got the size but I'd be concern about his speed (or lack of). ........... Nice Mock :awesomewo and VERY possible it could be how it all plays out considering the Players/Owners situation as of right now.

[akhhorus]

Great Job as always. What do you think Of Clay Matthews little brother at ILB.

I like him in the 4th round.

Can't disagree with going with the WR in the first round. Filling any position of need is a plus for the Skins (although WR they don't do well on). The only thing I'd tweek in this version is putting in Wisniewski (if he were there) for Cannon. ....... Cannon got the size but I'd be concern about his speed (or lack of). ........... Nice Mock :awesomewo and VERY possible it could be how it all plays out considering the Players/Owners situation as of right now.

I think he's going to go 33 right now to New England, but I would probably take him over Cannon if presented with the choice.

[shally]

i dont think that Gabbert has shown enough at this point to justify he is the top pick in the draft..Rivera is going to build from the D line outwards, all things being equal

if Gabbert has the combine of a lifetime, i might re assess, but as it stands now, too many questions

ironically, i think a lockout that delays free agency until august likely plays to the Skins advantage.. we are USED to acting quickly on free agents, and used to spending huge amounts quickly.. who better to clean up with 3 or 4 free agents in a couple of days once the gates open ??

[akhhorus]

i dont think that Gabbert has shown enough at this point to justify he is the top pick in the draft..Rivera is going to build from the D line outwards, all things being equal

if Gabbert has the combine of a lifetime, i might re assess, but as it stands now, too many questions

The problem is that they do have a lot of talent already on that defense(a lot of it was in the IR last year). Getting back Jones and Beaston(along with that LB Anderson who was fantastic last year)+Charles Johnson's breakout season means that I could see Rivera going with a QB to keep Jimmy the Pickle off the field. They could be a candidate for Fat Albert so that they can maximize their moves.

ironically, i think a lockout that delays free agency until august likely plays to the Skins advantage.. we are USED to acting quickly on free agents, and used to spending huge amounts quickly.. who better to clean up with 3 or 4 free agents in a couple of days once the gates open ??

Yes and no. I think that the skins are going to be spending a lot of the time, once the gates open, on trying to dump McNabb, Albert the Sexter and a few other vets. It depends on how much work they've done working out deals prior to the start of player movement. And that depends on how much the GMs know about the future system.

[wave6ten]

One of the better mocks you've done so far...no Stanzi in the 1st makes it credible.

Any thoughts on the possibility of Patrick Peterson possibly dropping due to teams viewing him as a FS and the skins taking him at 10. He's got Sean Taylor type of ability if we played hime there.

[silverspring]

I like Fairly not being picked at 1, i think his character concerns are too much to make him the #1 pick. Carolina has a real tough decision to make. There is no prospect that really deserves that pick, and certainly not gabbert, but if they are going to reach they might as well reach for a position that has a big impact if successful.

I will be shocked if only one qb is picked in round one. I don't think that is realistic, but if we were looking to pick a qb in the second it would certainly be good for us.

Not sure I can see pouncey going before some of the tackles. Also the first tackle off the board at 19 seems mighty low.

I will be very surprised if denver picks a WR with #2.

[akhhorus]

One of the better mocks you've done so far...no Stanzi in the 1st makes it credible.


If Chicago can dump Cutler, there's a pretty good chance he'll go there ahead of Mallet(who's dropping out of top 50 now). He's a good fit for the Martz offense since he can, you know, run for his life well lol.

Any thoughts on the possibility of Patrick Peterson possibly dropping due to teams viewing him as a FS and the skins taking him at 10. He's got Sean Taylor type of ability if we played hime there.

My only thought is that its a made up rumor from the agent of another top 7 player.

[esmith1790]

Good job as always. I look forward to your mocks and scenarios as much as anyone else on the net.

There is lot of talk here in dallas of going Defense at #9 and Offense in round 2.

1. I have read a comment that Mike Mayock thinks Peterson might be a better safety the corner. That is a rumor i guess be floated. The cowboys back 4 is terrible and the boys would take him at #9.

2. The 33rd pick a hot pick cause it is the start of the 2nd round. Any prospect you think that slides out of round 1 that NE would trade out of it for a #1 in 2012?

3. What lineman do you think the cowboys would target ahead of the skins in round 2?

4. with a few 3-4 teams ahead of the skins, do you see them trading up in round 1 or round 2?

I think there would be a run on OL in the top of round 2. Most teams suck due to bad OL.

[akhhorus]

Good job as always. I look forward to your mocks and scenarios as much as anyone else on the net.

There is lot of talk here in dallas of going Defense at #9 and Offense in round 2.

1. I have read a comment that Mike Mayock thinks Peterson might be a better safety the corner. That is a rumor i guess be floated. The cowboys back 4 is terrible and the boys would take him at #9.

Of course they would if he's there. But I doubt he will be.

2. The 33rd pick a hot pick cause it is the start of the 2nd round. Any prospect you think that slides out of round 1 that NE would trade out of it for a #1 in 2012?


I doubt it. The Pats have too many holes to fill. If anything they'll be trying to use that pick to move up.

3. What lineman do you think the cowboys would target ahead of the skins in round 2?


Phil Taylor if he's there(he probably won't). Maybe Gabe Carimi and Nate Solder.

4. with a few 3-4 teams ahead of the skins, do you see them trading up in round 1 or round 2?


I doubt it. If they can move up to the top 3 in exchange for Haynesworth and/or McNabb, they'll do it. Likewise if they can deal up into the late first using the same pieces.

I think there would be a run on OL in the top of round 2. Most teams suck due to bad OL.

The run is probably going to start around pick 20.

[oldskinfan]

Is this a "should" happen or "will" happen Mock?
E.g. Is Gabbert worthy of #1?

I tend to think Rivera will build with defense unless Gabbert kills at the combine and on his Wonderlic. Also, given how many teams need QBs it's hard to imagine more teams not reaching for a QB in the 1st round.

[Moe]

I tend to think Rivera will build with defense unless Gabbert kills at the combine and on his Wonderlic. Also, given how many teams need QBs it's hard to imagine more teams not reaching for a QB in the 1st round.

Akh is right that Carolina actually has a pretty good D in place and that they could bolster it with later picks/some FA's here and there. Flip side is that there is chatter that Rivera might pursue Volek as their QB since he wants a shot to play and they have a relationship from San Diego, and if that happens then I don't see them using #1 on a QB, rather they'd look at Green to give them some much needed offensive punch. Steve Smith is still a really good player but is slowing down and has said he doesn't want to be part of a rebuilding team or to have to work through a rookie QB. Behind him they have only Lafell, who started to come around a little last year and Gettis, who emerged as a possible talent. Adding Green to the mix would solidify them and even allow them to possible move Smith if it came to that.

[akhhorus]

Is this a "should" happen or "will" happen Mock?
E.g. Is Gabbert worthy of #1?

I tend to think Rivera will build with defense unless Gabbert kills at the combine and on his Wonderlic. Also, given how many teams need QBs it's hard to imagine more teams not reaching for a QB in the 1st round.

I think Gabbert is worth the #1 pick and this is a will mock.


Akh is right that Carolina actually has a pretty good D in place and that they could bolster it with later picks/some FA's here and there. Flip side is that there is chatter that Rivera might pursue Volek as their QB since he wants a shot to play and they have a relationship from San Diego, and if that happens then I don't see them using #1 on a QB, rather they'd look at Green to give them some much needed offensive punch. Steve Smith is still a really good player but is slowing down and has said he doesn't want to be part of a rebuilding team or to have to work through a rookie QB. Behind him they have only Lafell, who started to come around a little last year and Gettis, who emerged as a possible talent. Adding Green to the mix would solidify them and even allow them to possible move Smith if it came to that.

Green is a possibility. I'd look to see who Carolina franchise tags. Its going to be Kahil or Charles Johnson. If they tag Johnson, they're not going to draft a defender at 1(I guess they could, but that wouldn't make much sense). If they tag Kahil(and don't resign Johnson), then I'd bet on Fairley going 1.

[shally]

Akh is right that Carolina actually has a pretty good D in place and that they could bolster it with later picks/some FA's here and there. Flip side is that there is chatter that Rivera might pursue Volek as their QB since he wants a shot to play and they have a relationship from San Diego, and if that happens then I don't see them using #1 on a QB, rather they'd look at Green to give them some much needed offensive punch. Steve Smith is still a really good player but is slowing down and has said he doesn't want to be part of a rebuilding team or to have to work through a rookie QB. Behind him they have only Lafell, who started to come around a little last year and Gettis, who emerged as a possible talent. Adding Green to the mix would solidify them and even allow them to possible move Smith if it came to that.

i think if you have the first overall pick in the draft, there is seldom a position worth using that pick on except: QB, Def Line, Left Tackle..

for the most part, you want a guy who will be a cornerstone impact player for your team for a decade with that pick. even the best corners, WR's, OL, TE's, LB's, S's arent that much better than the second best player at that position in any given year to warrant using the first overall pick on them..

there is certainly a random nature to when and where elite players show up in the draft but i think those 3 positions are where you truly get the most impact over multiple years-- provided you get the right guy

[Moe]

Green is a possibility. I'd look to see who Carolina franchise tags. Its going to be Kahil or Charles Johnson. If they tag Johnson, they're not going to draft a defender at 1(I guess they could, but that wouldn't make much sense). If they tag Kahil(and don't resign Johnson), then I'd bet on Fairley going 1.

Agreed, that very well could tip their hand. My guess is that they'll tag Khalil (much cheaper than franchising a DE and no real replacement available) and try to work out Johnson long term. Of course, CBA factors in majorly to any of this and if drags out then who knows.

[Moe]

i think if you have the first overall pick in the draft, there is seldom a position worth using that pick on except: QB, Def Line, Left Tackle..

for the most part, you want a guy who will be a cornerstone impact player for your team for a decade with that pick. even the best corners, WR's, OL, TE's, LB's, S's arent that much better than the second best player at that position in any given year to warrant using the first overall pick on them..

there is certainly a random nature to when and where elite players show up in the draft but i think those 3 positions are where you truly get the most impact over multiple years-- provided you get the right guy

Their offense was amatuerish last year, partly due to injury, partly due to a horrible OC but mostly due to a lack of talent at QB and WR. They are set at LT and could use some help at DT, but even Fairley has some question marks and Richardson isn't paying #1 money to a potential head case. Hurney, their GM, made the Clausen pick and is almost Cerrato-like in his blind defense of bad picks, and that's why I think they go veteran QB. IMO, Green is an adrenaline shot to that offense and gives Defenses something to think about, even if they wind up bringing back Matt Moore for another year.

[sinskin]

No RB's at all here?

Maybe I am way off base here but Mark Ingram I like.

[akhhorus]

No RB's at all here?

not for the Skins. I think that they're going to go after Ronnie Brown or DeAngelo Williams.

Maybe I am way off base here but Mark Ingram I like.

I'm a huge fan of his also, but I don't see Shanny taking a RB high.

[cal_junior]

I'm a huge fan of his also, but I don't see Shanny taking a RB high.

It certainly would be out-of-character for him.

[skinsfan36]

It certainly would be out-of-character for him.

especially the way his ego grows with finding more and more rbs to post 1000 yds lol

[akhhorus]

It certainly would be out-of-character for him.

I would so love to have Ingram in the BnG though. I think he could be Emmitt Smith 2.0.