View Full Version : Predictions: 5 FAs We Will Sign
Nomad
07-03-2011, 10:54 PM
Let's hear answers and predictions. This isn't about what you think we should do, but what you think we will do, factoring in FAs we want but won't be able to get, etc. A few of the initial bigger signings seem obvious, but we may also look for some reasonably priced depth.
Sean T RIP
07-04-2011, 08:53 AM
hopefully none lets play with what we have get Luck next year and continue to build through the draft
BigCountry
07-04-2011, 02:06 PM
hopefully none lets play with what we have get Luck next year and continue to build through the draft
If we get Luck next year Shannahan is gone.
shally
07-04-2011, 06:54 PM
we aint getting Luck..unless it is by a blockbuster trade.
with even a half decent group of free agents blostering the O line, this is a .500 team.. we might not be a playoff caliber team, but we wont be in the bottom quarter of teams. so we wont be in the hunt for Luck
FanFromArizona
07-04-2011, 07:50 PM
we aint getting Luck..unless it is by a blockbuster trade.
with even a half decent group of free agents blostering the O line, this is a .500 team.. we might not be a playoff caliber team, but we wont be in the bottom quarter of teams. so we wont be in the hunt for Luck
I agree, even if we deliberately played to lose, we would still not finish with a top 3 pick, no such luck. Shanahan won't let that happen.
Nomad
07-04-2011, 08:01 PM
I agree, even if we deliberately played to lose, we would still not finish with a top 3 pick, no such luck. Shanahan won't let that happen.
No such "Luck"--ha!
Sean T RIP
07-04-2011, 10:07 PM
if John Beck is our startin QB and Torrain is our best RB we will win 2 or 3 games
hail2skins
07-04-2011, 10:57 PM
hopefully none lets play with what we have get Luck next year and continue to build through the draftSo, you want the Redskins to tank the season in hopes of getting a QB that may or may not make it in the NFL. Are you serious?
Patrick
07-05-2011, 07:48 AM
we aint getting Luck..unless it is by a blockbuster trade.
with even a half decent group of free agents blostering the O line, this is a .500 team.. we might not be a playoff caliber team, but we wont be in the bottom quarter of teams. so we wont be in the hunt for Luck
And that will the key factor for this team next season. But picking up players that are pass their prime and/or high priced prima donnas will not get them to .500. As this team stands right now, too much development that needs to be accomplished on the 3-4 defense and getting an offensive line that will play together as an unit (and that usually takes a season or two) ........ AND a QB. ....................... AND depth at just about all areas.
shally
07-05-2011, 08:56 AM
And that will the key factor for this team next season. But picking up players that are pass their prime and/or high priced prima donnas will not get them to .500. As this team stands right now, too much development that needs to be accomplished on the 3-4 defense and getting an offensive line that will play together as an unit (and that usually takes a season or two) ........ AND a QB. ....................... AND depth at just about all areas.
i think the Defense is going to be light years better this year.. we have a solid pair of safeties, and a decent crop of DL players to rotate. we need another ILB to pair with Fletcher. the big question will be CB.. i think we make a big splash inthe first day of FA, signing either Joseph or Asomugha.
after that, the entire focus will be on the Offensive side of the ball
oh, we need an NFL level punter
akhhorus
07-05-2011, 09:19 AM
I only have 3 predictions.
1. Joseph Addai. Shanny likes Helu, but there's a lot of rumors that he's going to sign a big name back to team with him.
2. Ryan Harris. And let Brown walk.
3. Nnamdi Asomugha. The Eagles won't offer him more than Samuel makes. The Cowboys don't have the cash.
jaylen
07-05-2011, 01:48 PM
I only have 3 predictions.
1. Joseph Addai. Shanny likes Helu, but there's a lot of rumors that he's going to sign a big name back to team with him.
2. Ryan Harris. And let Brown walk.
3. Nnamdi Asomugha. The Eagles won't offer him more than Samuel makes. The Cowboys don't have the cash.
I was thinking we'd go sign a vet back as well. Addai an interesting name not sure he could stay healthy in the NFC East. would be a good pick up.
I think Harris makes sense and Asomugha I've always felt would be our top target.
we're gonna spend spend spend.Gotta believe a qb of some sorta is in the offering as well. a developmental undrafted guy or Pryor or maybe a vet.
I think Cullen Jenkins is on the table for us as well.
colkurtz
07-05-2011, 02:26 PM
RT
CB
WR
That's where the money will be spent. The biggest bundle of cash will either go for the best CB or #1 WR we can get. I think, just like in the draft, the team will go for more picks of good players than choosing more than one big ticket player.
One big money FA like Asomugha and 4-5 middle cost FA.
akhhorus
07-05-2011, 02:37 PM
I was thinking we'd go sign a vet back as well. Addai an interesting name not sure he could stay healthy in the NFC East. would be a good pick up.
I think that the Skins should ask the Raiders if they're interested in dumping Darren McFadden frankly. Apparently he's on the outs there.
Keino
07-05-2011, 03:11 PM
I think that the Skins should ask the Raiders if they're interested in dumping Darren McFadden frankly. Apparently he's on the outs there.
Good idea. Then we wouldn't need Beckman. We could just run the wildcat offense McFadden ran at Arkansas.
shally
07-05-2011, 03:21 PM
I think that the Skins should ask the Raiders if they're interested in dumping Darren McFadden frankly. Apparently he's on the outs there.
would prefer DAngelo Williams if it comes down to a choice of guys like Bush, McFadden or Sproles
lorimike
07-05-2011, 04:31 PM
would prefer DAngelo Williams if it comes down to a choice of guys like Bush, McFadden or Sproles
we have two good backs in Torrain and Helu. It would make no sense to sign a worn down veteran.
shally
07-05-2011, 05:27 PM
we have two good backs in Torrain and Helu. It would make no sense to sign a worn down veteran.
agree. but still think we will go after at least 1 veteran
akhhorus
07-05-2011, 06:49 PM
Good idea. Then we wouldn't need Beckman. We could just run the wildcat offense McFadden ran at Arkansas.
would prefer DAngelo Williams if it comes down to a choice of guys like Bush, McFadden or Sproles
Williams is going to want a ton. Top 5 Rb money. I like him, but I probably would rather have Addai at 60 cents on the dollar from that.
agree. but still think we will go after at least 1 veteran
There's too many rumors about the Skins going after a big name to discount it imo.
shally
07-05-2011, 10:03 PM
Williams is going to want a ton. Top 5 Rb money. I like him, but I probably would rather have Addai at 60 cents on the dollar from that.
There's too many rumors about the Skins going after a big name to discount it imo.
i would be fine with Addai.. used as a 3rd down back, i think he would not have durability issues
Nomad
07-05-2011, 11:16 PM
I don't think we sign WR or RB. If we do, it is strictly to have a veteran to mentor youth, but I don't think we do it.
I think we sign a NT. Priority 1. Even if we draft another, you can't have too many good NT. An older guy like Abruyo makes much more sense if you're planning on drafting a young guy like Nield, expecting Abruyo to mentor him, and only expecting Abruyo to play percentage of snaps as ages. Rotating NTs all year long essential to not have them gassed or injured.
I think we sign a RT, probably Harris. We are so thin at T, Gaither would be good too, but is he available? He played b-ball, is athletic, could project to zone blocking well.
I think we sign a big name CB, possibly Aso, but blowing the bank just doesn't seem to be Allen's style. I would expect us to sign one of the more modestly priced CBs without a huge reputation who accepts a modest incentive laden deal and is perfect fit for your system.
I think a NT, RT, CB are no brainers, and are our primary needs in that order--except QB of course.
A young UDFA or developmental ILB at a modest price wouldn't suprise me.
Nor would a modest priced veteran DE as insurance for our two young DEs, though we have
A 3rd young QB they roll the dice on just so they have a 3rd QB on roster also makes sense--unless they keep an extra RB or WR.
jaylen
07-05-2011, 11:31 PM
would prefer DAngelo Williams if it comes down to a choice of guys like Bush, McFadden or Sproles
I really like D'angelo Williams he'd be ideal but then again like AKh said he's gonna want a ton I really hope because of the mad scramble we get some discounts the price is driven down from agents and players scrambling.
I'd hate to think we just end up overpaying everyone and ending up with another team full of ill fitting personalities.
on another unrelated note why do I get this feeling Carlos Rogers is gonna make a pro bowl playing elsewhere lol.
shally
07-05-2011, 11:52 PM
I really like D'angelo Williams he'd be ideal but then again like AKh said he's gonna want a ton I really hope because of the mad scramble we get some discounts the price is driven down from agents and players scrambling.
I'd hate to think we just end up overpaying everyone and ending up with another team full of ill fitting personalities.
on another unrelated note why do I get this feeling Carlos Rogers is gonna make a pro bowl playing elsewhere lol.
... not unless he got a hands transplant this offseason
joethefan
07-05-2011, 11:55 PM
I really like D'angelo Williams he'd be ideal but then again like AKh said he's gonna want a ton I really hope because of the mad scramble we get some discounts the price is driven down from agents and players scrambling.
I'd hate to think we just end up overpaying everyone and ending up with another team full of ill fitting personalities.
on another unrelated note why do I get this feeling Carlos Rogers is gonna make a pro bowl playing elsewhere lol.
Shame on you if you're right. Shame on you....I'd boo the heck out of him if that happened. Can't find the ball no matter where is comes, let alone to catch it.
ryflan47
07-06-2011, 12:08 PM
This is a pretty deep WR free agency class right? I hope we can get someone that can catch something.
jaylen
07-06-2011, 01:51 PM
... not unless he got a hands transplant this offseason
didn't Walt Harris leave here and become a pro bowl player at corner. Carlos can cover maybe with less pressure in a different environment he reaches his potential. I think its possible it just got so mental with him and the fanbase he just had no clue how to actually catch the ball.
colkurtz
07-06-2011, 02:18 PM
What about Sidney Rice - 6'4" WR plus getting S. Moss back for one more season? He's only 24.
OT - Nick Karzur - he has 7 seasons but still some juice in the tank.
I still think we'll spend the big money on CB - Asomugha. That will help solidify the defensive backfield and get us some turnovers that we HAVEN'T been getting from Carlos "Stone Hands" Rogers.
shally
07-06-2011, 02:19 PM
didn't Walt Harris leave here and become a pro bowl player at corner. Carlos can cover maybe with less pressure in a different environment he reaches his potential. I think its possible it just got so mental with him and the fanbase he just had no clue how to actually catch the ball.
Walt was a fine corner with the Bears before he nearly wrecked his knee. It took him a couple of years to recover. We let him go and he thrived at SF because no one wanted to throw at Nate Clements on the other side. Walt had a lot of picks and played well until age caught up with him. I think he also sustained another injury that effectively ended his career
Walt could always catch the ball-- the same cannot be said for Rogers. Carlos has the WORST hands i have ever seen on a corner in over 50 years of watching football. it isnt even close as he is in a class by himself when it comes to dropped interceptions that actually hit him in both hands
akhhorus
07-06-2011, 02:25 PM
What about Sidney Rice - 6'4" WR plus getting S. Moss back for one more season? He's only 24.
After drafting 37 WRs lol, I seriously doubt that the skins will make any moves to sign a new WR or bring back Moss.
I still think we'll spend the big money on CB - Asomugha. That will help solidify the defensive backfield and get us some turnovers that we HAVEN'T been getting from Carlos "Stone Hands" Rogers.
FWIU, Asomugha is about winning not the money-so he's out of the list imo.
shally
07-06-2011, 02:25 PM
What about Sidney Rice - 6'4" WR plus getting S. Moss back for one more season? He's only 24.
OT - Nick Karzur - he has 7 seasons but still some juice in the tank.
I still think we'll spend the big money on CB - Asomugha. That will help solidify the defensive backfield and get us some turnovers that we HAVEN'T been getting from Carlos "Stone Hands" Rogers.
if we sign BOTH Moss and Rice we will stifle the development of our young receivers.. only one of them makes sense. Also Rice's hip needs to check out medically
i worry far more about what we do on the O and D lines.. we still dont have a proven NT. signing Franklin would be huge.
we need to settle the RT and guard positions as well..about given up hope we will actually sign a replacement for Rabach
jaylen
07-06-2011, 03:49 PM
Walt was a fine corner with the Bears before he nearly wrecked his knee. It took him a couple of years to recover. We let him go and he thrived at SF because no one wanted to throw at Nate Clements on the other side. Walt had a lot of picks and played well until age caught up with him. I think he also sustained another injury that effectively ended his career
Walt could always catch the ball-- the same cannot be said for Rogers. Carlos has the WORST hands i have ever seen on a corner in over 50 years of watching football. it isnt even close as he is in a class by himself when it comes to dropped interceptions that actually hit him in both hands
well yea I agree but Walt wasn't any good here. Carlos can cover and I think the int thing is mental. sorta like lloyd becoming a pro bowl wr after being terrible dreadful here. I think sometime a change of scenary could do wonders for a guy's confidence.
FWIU, Asomugha is about winning not the money-so he's out of the list imo.
Not sure about their cap situation, but Nnamdi's former coach is now at Baltimore and they need CB's and will likely contend.
akhhorus
07-06-2011, 04:01 PM
Not sure about their cap situation, but Nnamdi's former coach is now at Baltimore and they need CB's and will likely contend.
Thats a likely possibility, it might come down to how much Balto can offer him and if he can exist with "Soon to be Ray-tired".
well yea I agree but Walt wasn't any good here. Carlos can cover and I think the int thing is mental. sorta like lloyd becoming a pro bowl wr after being terrible dreadful here. I think sometime a change of scenary could do wonders for a guy's confidence.
Walt was on the wrong side of 30 and wanted big dollars. The Skins were right to let him walk but everyone remembers his big int numbers that year after he left. As Shally pointed out, he was the target since they picked up Clements, but more to the point was that he got like 80% of those picks facing some horrible QB's in that horrible division. He was a decent player but his reputation was very much artificially inflated based on the picks he had that one season.
As for Carlos, he'd be perfect in Pitt if they lose Ike Taylor. They don't put a premium on their cb's being sticky, rather being physical and solid tacklers, which is right in his wheel house.
Nomad
07-06-2011, 04:24 PM
After drafting 37 WRs lol, I seriously doubt that the skins will make any moves to sign a new WR or bring back Moss.
FWIU, Asomugha is about winning not the money-so he's out of the list imo.
For once I agree with everything Akh said! The end of the world must be at hand, ha, ha! I agree on WR. Aso is going to get a huge deal anywhere he goes, he'd much rather make $12 million a year and win SBs than make $16 million a year on a team that sucks. With our known lack of QB and reputation for dysfunction, only way he comes here is if we make him richer than a Saudi sheik.
shally
07-06-2011, 05:49 PM
Walt was on the wrong side of 30 and wanted big dollars. The Skins were right to let him walk but everyone remembers his big int numbers that year after he left. As Shally pointed out, he was the target since they picked up Clements, but more to the point was that he got like 80% of those picks facing some horrible QB's in that horrible division. He was a decent player but his reputation was very much artificially inflated based on the picks he had that one season.
As for Carlos, he'd be perfect in Pitt if they lose Ike Taylor. They don't put a premium on their cb's being sticky, rather being physical and solid tacklers, which is right in his wheel house.
that's a very good point.. on the other hand, they arent exactly the most generous team with contracts.. they draft rather than paying big free agent deals
that's a very good point.. on the other hand, they arent exactly the most generous team with contracts.. they draft rather than paying big free agent deals
I don't think it's a mystery that Carlos wants to get paid, so that'll likely determine his spot more than anything, but he fits in there and I think would be successful in that system. It looks like they drafted two cb's this year so maybe they want to roll with cheaper youth, but that's a risky proposition for a contender.
CNYSkinFan
07-07-2011, 09:48 AM
If we get Luck next year Shannahan is gone.
best.....plan....ever
GibbsFan
07-07-2011, 10:20 AM
best.....plan....ever
ditto not a Shanafan LOL
we r gonna suk no matter who we sign
we may however just win the offseason championship again with that CB with the funky name dat dude might just really be worth the money if we get lucky and get him
speaking of luck, we will never see him. we r what we r. a middlin team with more holes than baby swiss
VegasSkinsFan
07-07-2011, 10:59 AM
My top5 guesses are: DE-Cullen Jenkins, DT - Brandon Mebane OL- Ryan Harris , CB- Jonathan Joseph , QB-Rex Grossman ( i dont think we have him locked up yet).
shally
07-07-2011, 11:35 AM
My top5 guesses are: DE-Cullen Jenkins, DT - Brandon Mebane OL- Ryan Harris , CB- Jonathan Joseph , QB-Rex Grossman ( i dont think we have him locked up yet).
because of the lockout, Grossman will end up getting signed because of his familiarity with the offense
Keino
07-07-2011, 01:50 PM
because of the lockout, Grossman will end up getting signed because of his familiarity with the offense
Don't kid yourself, if Kyle had his way, we were re-signing Rexy anyways....
DaveKShape
07-07-2011, 03:03 PM
Don't kid yourself, if Kyle had his way, we were re-signing Rexy anyways....
he knows the system!!!
akhhorus
07-07-2011, 03:07 PM
Don't kid yourself, if Kyle had his way, we were re-signing Rexy anyways....
He's supersmart.
Keino
07-07-2011, 03:18 PM
He's supersmart.
Lemme guess, he fights his guts out?
Gravy
07-07-2011, 03:40 PM
Lemme guess, he fights his guts out?
He makes me puke my guts out...
akhhorus
07-07-2011, 03:54 PM
Lemme guess, he fights his guts out?
He's a card carrying member of the "Reed Doughty for some reason he's called hard working so that people don't have to talk about how bad he sucks floppy donkey balls as a player" club.
shally
07-07-2011, 03:58 PM
Don't kid yourself, if Kyle had his way, we were re-signing Rexy anyways....
you are probably right about that.. but, because of the short time teams will have to get ready, i would bet there is a strong push from the front office to retain players who know the system.. might work in Moss's favor as well
GibbsFan
07-07-2011, 06:34 PM
Nnamdi Asomugha
Laurence Maroney
Jeremy Trueblood
Leroy Harris
DQwell Jackson
BigCountry
07-07-2011, 07:01 PM
best.....plan....ever
Lol I could have used your help in another thread, but to keep this thread on track, it has been reported (I get all my news through KFFL.com) that we'll be looking at more than one defensive lineman, so my guess is Cullen Jenkins or Franklin, and another younger backup. Also on defense I wouldn't be shocked to see us go after Quincy Black and try to use him in a Lawrence Timmons sort of role. On offense it has to be Ryan Harris, but not Davin Joseph, who many here are hoping for, but he's a bad fit.
hockeygoalie29
07-07-2011, 09:08 PM
What's up guys? Long time no post.
I think the reason Shanny and Bruce didn't spend a ton last year was because they were planning to overhaul the roster with players from the 2011 free agent class that is stocked with the most talent ever available in one free agency period. On offense, I see a major youth movement at the skill positions via the draft picks made this April and I expect at least 2 new starters on the line via free agency. On defense, with an influx of rookies and free agents, I expect to see 5-6 new starters this year as the transformation to the 3-4 becomes more apparent. Here's how I see free agency playing out:
Ryan Harris - RT
Harris was not a good fit in McDaniel's offense and will jump at the chance to be reunited with Shanny. Lucky for him we have a big hole at RT.
Davin Joseph - G
Joseph and Harris will solidify the right side of the line that has been a sieve ever since Jon Jansen blew out his Achilles in 2006.
Cullen Jenkins - DE
Multiple reports of mutual interest and he fills a glaring weakness at DE. Signing Cullen will allow our other Jenkins, 2nd round pick Jarvis Jenkins, to work his way into the lineup as a rotational guy.
Stephen Tullock/Paul Posluszny - ILB
I don't think the team is interested in bringing Rocky back and as much as I like Lorenzo Alexander he is not starter material which leaves a hole at ILB. Both of these guys are elite and will anchor the interior of the defense as Fletcher moves into his twilight years.
Jonothan Joseph - CB
Rogers seems hell bent on getting out of DC and I don't see Kevin Barnes as a starter. I don't think we break the bank on Asomugha but Joseph is one hell of a consolation prize.
Adam Podlesh - P
Do you really think we're going into the season with Sam Paulescu as our punter? Didn't think so...
Starting lineup:
QB: Beckman (love the nickname guys)
RB: Torrain
WR: Armstrong
WR: Hankerson
TE: Cooley
LT: Williams
LG: Stieger
C: Montgomery
RG: Joseph
RT: Harris
LDE: Carriker
NT: Bryant/Kemo/Neild rotation
RDE: Cullen Jenkins
OLB: Kerrigan
ILB: Posluszny/Tullock
ILB: Fletcher
OLB: Orakpo
CB: Joseph
CB: Hall
FS: Atogwe
SS: Landry
jaylen
07-07-2011, 10:29 PM
Walt was on the wrong side of 30 and wanted big dollars. The Skins were right to let him walk but everyone remembers his big int numbers that year after he left. As Shally pointed out, he was the target since they picked up Clements, but more to the point was that he got like 80% of those picks facing some horrible QB's in that horrible division. He was a decent player but his reputation was very much artificially inflated based on the picks he had that one season.
As for Carlos, he'd be perfect in Pitt if they lose Ike Taylor. They don't put a premium on their cb's being sticky, rather being physical and solid tacklers, which is right in his wheel house.
well whatever it is I think carlos could have a similar type ascension he's never been a db on a team with a real pass rush I think he's good in coverage actually on his guy pretty tight most times his ball skills here were just horrendous. Playing behind a real pass ush being able to pick up the ball clearly I think he could excel.
Walt sucked here but got alot of picks and made a pro bowl.
jaylen
07-07-2011, 10:31 PM
I'd like us to get
1. Asomugha
2.Mike Sims Walker
3. Ryan Harris
4. big dt from the Niners forgot his name lol
5. Pryor in the supplemental.
Nomad
07-07-2011, 11:36 PM
Nnamdi Asomugha
Laurence Maroney
Jeremy Trueblood
Leroy Harris
DQwell Jackson
Trueblood, bat fit for scheme.
I'm against RB, but if we sign one, someone like Maroney young potential sounds good.
Man would I love to see all signings be young guys like this. Dream come true.
Except Aso of course.
Patrick
07-08-2011, 06:44 AM
What's up guys? Long time no post.
I think the reason Shanny and Bruce didn't spend a ton last year was because they were planning to overhaul the roster with players from the 2011 free agent class that is stocked with the most talent ever available in one free agency period. On offense, I see a major youth movement at the skill positions via the draft picks made this April and I expect at least 2 new starters on the line via free agency. On defense, with an influx of rookies and free agents, I expect to see 5-6 new starters this year as the transformation to the 3-4 becomes more apparent. Here's how I see free agency playing out:
Ryan Harris - RT
Harris was not a good fit in McDaniel's offense and will jump at the chance to be reunited with Shanny. Lucky for him we have a big hole at RT.
Davin Joseph - G
Joseph and Harris will solidify the right side of the line that has been a sieve ever since Jon Jansen blew out his Achilles in 2006.
Cullen Jenkins - DE
Multiple reports of mutual interest and he fills a glaring weakness at DE. Signing Cullen will allow our other Jenkins, 2nd round pick Jarvis Jenkins, to work his way into the lineup as a rotational guy.
Stephen Tullock/Paul Posluszny - ILB
I don't think the team is interested in bringing Rocky back and as much as I like Lorenzo Alexander he is not starter material which leaves a hole at ILB. Both of these guys are elite and will anchor the interior of the defense as Fletcher moves into his twilight years.
Jonothan Joseph - CB
Rogers seems hell bent on getting out of DC and I don't see Kevin Barnes as a starter. I don't think we break the bank on Asomugha but Joseph is one hell of a consolation prize.
Adam Podlesh - P
Do you really think we're going into the season with Sam Paulescu as our punter? Didn't think so...
Starting lineup:
QB: Beckman (love the nickname guys)
RB: Torrain
WR: Armstrong
WR: Hankerson
TE: Cooley
LT: Williams
LG: Stieger
C: Montgomery
RG: Joseph
RT: Harris
LDE: Carriker
NT: Bryant/Kemo/Neild rotation
RDE: Cullen Jenkins
OLB: Kerrigan
ILB: Posluszny/Tullock
ILB: Fletcher
OLB: Orakpo
CB: Joseph
CB: Hall
FS: Atogwe
SS: Landry
Might want to add another WR to your list ....... I'm guessing Kelly (if he makes it through training camp uninjured).
hockeygoalie29
07-08-2011, 10:40 AM
Might want to add another WR to your list ....... I'm guessing Kelly (if he makes it through training camp uninjured).
Hmm...didn't realize I only had 10 guys there. Yeah, I'm with you on Kelly, he's the wildcard this off-season. I think if Shanny believes in him they'll go with what they have at WR and, if not, they sign a big flanker like Rice. Either way I think Moss is gone and we have a couple of 6'2"+ receivers lining up wide with Hankerson and Kelly/Rice.
WR Corp:
Armstrong
Hankerson
Malcolm Kelly or FA vet
Niles Paul
Brandon Banks/Terrance Austin/Aldrick Robinson - fighting for one spot as 5th WR and KR
HanburgerBum
07-10-2011, 04:31 PM
hopefully none lets play with what we have get Luck next year and continue to build through the draft
While I agree with your strategy, the Skins may be forced to spend a good chunk of cap room for free agents this off-season because they currently have one of the smallest payrolls in the NFL (around 75 mil, I think)--especially if the floor for salaries is raised from 80% to 90% in the new CBA.
The only way for Wash to avoid spending on free agents and still reach the mandatory salary floor would be to re-structure contracts of some of its own young stars (Trent Williams, Orakpo, Landry and maybe Fred Davis) and lock them down for the long term. Is the front office smart enough to do that?
HanburgerBum
07-10-2011, 04:37 PM
If we get Luck next year Shannahan is gone.
And, that would be bad? Are you telling me you woudn't trade Shanahan for Andrew Luck?
The irony is that if Shanahan does manage to end up with the No. 1 pick (on his own without having to trade a ton for it) and land Andrew Luck, the fans and the Danny would be euphoric--whether the optimism is justified is irrelevant--and Shanahan will get to keep his job for at least another season.
HanburgerBum
07-10-2011, 04:49 PM
we aint getting Luck..unless it is by a blockbuster trade.
with even a half decent group of free agents blostering the O line, this is a .500 team.. we might not be a playoff caliber team, but we wont be in the bottom quarter of teams. so we wont be in the hunt for Luck
I think you are wrong about the the current Redskins roster. That bunch would very much be a legitimate contender (along with Carolina, Buffalo and Cincy) for finishing with the worst record this coming season.
But, as you pointed out, what may take Wash out of contention is the free agents the team may sign in the next month or so. Even if the Danny has decided to go frugal, he may have no choice but to sign free agents, since the current team pay roll is so far below the expected new salary floor.
If Wash ends up having to trade for Andrew Luck, the price may be prohibitive--it may cost three No. 1s. That will be a tough decision to make.
HanburgerBum
07-10-2011, 05:05 PM
Let's hear answers and predictions. This isn't about what you think we should do, but what you think we will do, factoring in FAs we want but won't be able to get, etc. A few of the initial bigger signings seem obvious, but we may also look for some reasonably priced depth.
If it were up to me, I would avoid any expensive, big-name FAs, especially if they are pushing 30. Instead, I would go after blue-collar, modestly-priced ones. To reach the salary floor, I would upgrade the existing contracts of the quality young players (Trent Williams, Orakpo, Landry, perhaps Fred Davis) on the roster in order to tie them down for the long-term.
But, given Danny's history and his penchant for making the big splash, here is whom I think the Redskins will sign after making a big bid for Asomugha and striking out:
Cullen Jenkins, Devin Joseph, Jonathan Joseph, Franklin (NT), DeAngelo Williams.
Here is whom I think the Redskins should sign:
Jonathan Joseph, Ryan Harris, Paul Poulusney, Stephen Tulluch, Brandon Mebane.
skinsfan36
07-10-2011, 05:25 PM
clayton just said on the radio we need to spend 45 million to hit the cap floor look out.
im thinking we sign
DE cullen jenkins
NT Aubrayo Franklin
RT Ryan Harris
OG Justin Blalock
MLB Stephen Tulloch
and a hard push for nnamdi asomugha
then probably a wr,rb,qb,and a corner. this is going to be a spending spree hopefully for the right guys.
NCskinsfanatic
07-10-2011, 05:47 PM
CB-Asomugha
NT-Frankilin
RT-Harris
OG-Joseph
WR-Moss
ChiefPowhatan17
07-11-2011, 06:52 PM
1. Aubrayo Franklin NT
2. Carlos Rogers CB
3. Manny Lawson OLB
4. Pat Delvin UDFA QB
5. Jammal Brown RT/LT
Go after the right side of Atlanta's o-line and sign Harvery Dahl (RG) and Tyson Clabo (RT), instant chemistry.
native skin
07-12-2011, 10:14 AM
you are probably right about that.. but, because of the short time teams will have to get ready, i would bet there is a strong push from the front office to retain players who know the system.. might work in Moss's favor as well
Totally agree, especially if we need to spend 45 million to hit the cap floor.
HanburgerBum
07-12-2011, 02:44 PM
Totally agree, especially if we need to spend 45 million to hit the cap floor.
I don't see it. I don't believe the front office is all that interested in re-signing our free agents.
I have been a big fan of Santana Moss, and I think he may still be better than any WR currently on the roster. But, he is past 30 and the team has drafted a ton of WRs. It is time to rebuild with younger players.
Carlos Rogers is a decent NFL starter, but not a star. Last I heard, he was asking for star money. Time to move on.
McIntosh may not be well-suited to be a ILB in the 3-4. Moreover, hasn't he feuded with the front office recently?
Grossman is a possibility for a re-sign, because Kyle Shanahan likes him. But, will Rex want to be here if John Beck is the anointed starter (at least initially)?
shally
07-12-2011, 02:56 PM
I don't see it. I don't believe the front office is all that interested in re-signing our free agents.
I have been a big fan of Santana Moss, and I think he may still be better than any WR currently on the roster. But, he is past 30 and the team has drafted a ton of WRs. It is time to rebuild with younger players.
Carlos Rogers is a decent NFL starter, but not a star. Last I heard, he was asking for star money. Time to move on.
McIntosh may not be well-suited to be a ILB in the 3-4. Moreover, hasn't he feuded with the front office recently?
Grossman is a possibility for a re-sign, because Kyle Shanahan likes him. But, will Rex want to be here if John Beck is the anointed starter (at least initially)?
Grossman will want to be here because, if i am him, i think i can easily beat out Beck when the competition actually begins, and this is the most likely place where i can start
Moss has already said he wants to stay. his catches will undoubtedly take reps away from the younger guys, but he is a proven receiver
the others will be encouraged to walk
sdredskinsfan
07-16-2011, 07:17 PM
I only have 3 predictions.
1. Joseph Addai. Shanny likes Helu, but there's a lot of rumors that he's going to sign a big name back to team with him.
2. Ryan Harris. And let Brown walk.
3. Nnamdi Asomugha. The Eagles won't offer him more than Samuel makes. The Cowboys don't have the cash.
This seems too logical for shan and allen to grasp.
firehawk157
07-17-2011, 06:50 AM
if John Beck is our startin QB and Torrain is our best RB we will win 2 or 3 games
Torain was a good RB last year. He doesn't have breakaway speed but he had good vision and an excellent burst and ran tough.
CarMike
07-17-2011, 07:58 AM
I only have 3 predictions.
1. Joseph Addai. Shanny likes Helu, but there's a lot of rumors that he's going to sign a big name back to team with him.
2. Ryan Harris. And let Brown walk.
3. Nnamdi Asomugha. The Eagles won't offer him more than Samuel makes. The Cowboys don't have the cash.
I'd love to see the Redskins go after DeAngelo Williams. That's the big time RB I hope we get. After that, I don't care as long as they're smart moves.
HanburgerBum
07-17-2011, 03:32 PM
Grossman will want to be here because, if i am him, i think i can easily beat out Beck when the competition actually begins, and this is the most likely place where i can start
Moss has already said he wants to stay. his catches will undoubtedly take reps away from the younger guys, but he is a proven receiver
the others will be encouraged to walk
While your take on Grossman is logical, I have a hunch that he will choose to sign elsewhere. I think he is convinced that Beck will be named the starter and that the experiment may be longer rather than shorter.
I think if Arizona can't work out a deal for Kolb, Grossman could be an option to start there. And, Grossman could replace Chad Henne in Miami or serve as a stopgap for teams (Tenn, Minnesota, Cincy) who drafted QBs this year. Further, Grossman could end up being No. 2 for a contender like Balt or even Indy.
As for Moss, I agree that he can still be fairly productive. But, does it make sense to have him take away reps from younger WRs on this team? And, does it make sense for him to continue play for a losing team in the twilight of his career?
Goskins11
07-25-2011, 05:13 PM
(nt)A. fanklin, (wr)S. Holmes, (rt) j. brown-resigned, (g) d. jopseph, (cb) j. joseph. These are the players that i think get signed by the skins first.
since Casey Rabach is a free agent i hope he gets dumped and cook or a free agent help solidify the interior of the ol. The only free agents i really care about would be OC for me. I'm tired of Casey sucking it up so much.....
BIGREDSKINSFAN1963
07-25-2011, 07:09 PM
leinhart-dahl-holmes-Asomugha-harris-franklin-maybe resign brown and buchanan,and jenkins too.
Skaggsrules
07-25-2011, 07:16 PM
Paul Poslunzny said he wants to test the market, hit him with the money, I want him playing next to London.
skinsfan36
07-25-2011, 07:33 PM
let me repredict
1-gregg
2-cullen jenkins
3-ryan harris
4-harvey dahl
5-santonio holmes
let me repredict
1-gregg
2-cullen jenkins
3-ryan harris
4-harvey dahl
5-santonio holmes
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JoeJacksonTaylor28
07-26-2011, 12:38 PM
FWIW, LaCanfora seems pretty sure we are going really hard after Santonio, try to bring in Yanda and Cullen Jenkins (maybe Coefield), and NOT making a push for Asomougha.
OCSkinzFan
07-28-2011, 07:31 PM
FWIW, LaCanfora seems pretty sure we are going really hard after Santonio, try to bring in Yanda and Cullen Jenkins (maybe Coefield), and NOT making a push for Asomougha.
Jayson could never have predicted what we did at WR.
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