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Ibleedburgundy
08-02-2011, 08:36 PM
Holy cow.

The government is likely to lose more than $1 billion in airline ticket taxes because lawmakers have left town for a month without resolving a partisan standoff over a bill to end the partial shutdown of the Federal Aviation Administration.

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The debacle could have had an upside for airline passengers because ticket taxes, which typically average about $30 on a $300 round-trip fare, are suspended during the shutdown. But airlines decided to pocket the windfall. Within hours of the shutdown on July 23, most airlines raised their fares by amounts equivalent to the taxes that disappeared.

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Amazing coincidence that several large Airlines had precisely the same illogical reaction here.

Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., chairman of the Senate committee that oversees the FAA, held out the possibility that if the Senate were able to pass a bill acceptable to Democrats, it could still be approved by the House using obscure parliamentary procedures, and sent to the White House.

But his House counterpart, Rep. John Mica, R-Fla., ruled out that possibility. The only way left to end the shutdown is for the Senate to agree to a previously passed House bill containing $16.5 million cuts in air service subsidies to 13 rural communities that some Democrats — particularly Rockefeller — find objectionable.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal-government/senators-the-cost-of-faa-shutdown-could-exceed-1-billion-if-unless-action-taken-this-week/2011/08/02/gIQA3aZzoI_story.html?hpid=z3

So this Republican guy in the House passed a bill he knew wouldn't be passed to by the Senate, and then he skipped town for a Month long vacation before they could settle the matter.

The lost $1 billion in revenue is only one factor here. I work on large programs that have been shut down. The demobilization and remobilization costs will be huge. I issued 10 stop work orders. The agency has issued 219. Mine alone will cost the taxpayer millions in demobilization and remobilization costs. All of these costs could have easily been avoided if we elected reasonable representatives. Instead, they are creating 100% pure unnecessary waste.

If you can't compromise, you are incapable of Governing in a Democracy.

This is no way to run an organization.

BTW, I am an essential employee and not furloughed. Those who are will probably receive the full Month's back pay like they did last time. More pure waste to the tune of roughly $30 million.

The worst part about this is 74,000 Americans have been laid off as a direct result. Many of those are blue collar construction workers just trying to earn a living. In this economy, that is downright cruel.

/vent.

RedskinsDave
08-03-2011, 08:45 AM
To be honest, this all started with the Health care act. The tactics used there have made it so no compromise will happen. Why negotiate on things when you can just resort to back room deals and parliamentary actions? I agree that this guy is being an idiot if the real reason he is holding up the bill is $16.5m dollars but this is the atmosphere created when both sides believe they were elected on a mandate to make certain things happen, the country be damned in the process.

akhhorus
08-03-2011, 10:14 AM
To be honest, this all started with the Health care act. The tactics used there have made it so no compromise will happen. Why negotiate on things when you can just resort to back room deals and parliamentary actions? I agree that this guy is being an idiot if the real reason he is holding up the bill is $16.5m dollars but this is the atmosphere created when both sides believe they were elected on a mandate to make certain things happen, the country be damned in the process.

The tactics of that bill didn't help, but the screaming started long before April '10 when FreedomWorks et al had people cram the townhalls to yell about things not actually in any legislation.. Imo, its more about the extremes on both sides having zero political incentive to compromise with even moderates on the other side.

Ibleedburgundy
08-03-2011, 12:20 PM
I don't see how being butthurt is an excuse here. Nor do I agree that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act was precedent-setting in terms of partisanship or being uncompromising. The Democrats compromised the public option and they didn't even have to.

Besides, this style of Government is not new for Republicans. They shut down the Government in the 90s, and they've continued to sign pledges promising to never compromise on certain issues ever since. To say Republicans are only acting this way as a result of what Democrats did in 2010 doesn't comport with Republicans' legislative history.

Keino
08-03-2011, 03:05 PM
At least he didn't call the POTUS a "tar baby".

Keino
08-03-2011, 03:06 PM
I don't see how being butthurt is an excuse here. Nor do I agree that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act was precedent-setting in terms of partisanship or being uncompromising. The Democrats compromised the public option and they didn't even have to.

Besides, this style of Government is not new for Republicans. They shut down the Government in the 90s, and they've continued to sign pledges promising to never compromise on certain issues ever since. To say Republicans are only acting this way as a result of what Democrats did in 2010 doesn't comport with Republicans' legislative history.

Which I contend made this reform no reform at all. Without a public option what's the point?

RedskinsDave
08-03-2011, 03:48 PM
At least he didn't call the POTUS a "tar baby".

How crazy was that? He's only a half-tar baby. Get it right.

Ibleedburgundy
08-05-2011, 07:33 AM
Which I contend made this reform no reform at all. Without a public option what's the point?

The main point of the bill is to cover an additional 30 million people - which it will.

Ibleedburgundy
08-05-2011, 07:37 AM
Looks like the Democrats took the high road and gave in to every single Republican demand. Harry Reid announced that they came to a bipartisan agreement LOL. This is better than nothing but the Dems need to work on their negotiating skills.

Keino
08-05-2011, 09:04 AM
The main point of the bill is to cover an additional 30 million people - which it will.

Part of the reform as I understand it was to make insurers stop acting like drug cartels whle gouging the people paying their premiums and eventually reduce the cost to Americans as a whole of obtaining and keeping basic healthcare services. Without the public option where insurers would be forced to compete with someone offering the same or better services for a better price, the legislation does nothing to accomplish this and it goes to your later point about Dem negotiating skills. They give when they don't have to because largely they have no nuts.

Obama has negotiated against himself a few times and while I agree with compromise, I don't agree with giving away the farm while alienating your base. I am pissed at the way things have gone to the point that I will quite possibly sit 2012 out. Eff them all, Dems and GOP alike. None of them care about the doing what is best for the country.

RedskinsDave
08-05-2011, 11:20 AM
Eff them all, Dems and GOP alike. None of them care about the doing what is best for the country.

This.

CNYSkinFan
08-05-2011, 11:38 AM
This.
starting to get there myself.....how sad is that, 3 people who could not be more polar opposites just not caring anymore

justinskins
08-05-2011, 03:17 PM
starting to get there myself.....how sad is that, 3 people who could not be more polar opposites just not caring anymore

I'm feeling the same way!

fent
08-08-2011, 10:56 AM
starting to get there myself.....how sad is that, 3 people who could not be more polar opposites just not caring anymore

Make that 4.

Keino
08-08-2011, 11:43 AM
Make that 4.

And it's 4 people who have spent a good chunk of their HR time in this very forum and have a passion for it. I think that is the most telling part of it. BnG has had the right idea for years. There is virtually no material difference in the parties and their leaders.

GeneralDisorder
04-01-2012, 04:57 AM
That kind of feeling isn't confined to the US. Self-serving conmen giving with one hand and taking with the other.

It's been said over here in the UK that the only person to enter parliament with honest intentions was Guy Fawkes...