GAME THREAD: SKINS/BILLS

[PennSkinsFan]

Discuss the game here

[rskinsfan10]

Game Time!!!

[rskinsfan10]

Moulds is out.

[hail2skins]

Buffalo has the ball first.

[rskinsfan10]

Bills moving it pretty easily

[rskinsfan10]

They are picking on Bauman from the jump

[hail2skins]

buffalo moving the ball with ease so far. At Redskins 20 yard line already.

[hail2skins]

Chase starts today.

[rskinsfan10]

Damn, is Chase cold?

[hail2skins]

3rd and goal at Skins 3 for Buffalo.

[hail2skins]

Offsides on Trotter

[rskinsfan10]

We lucked up there

[hail2skins]

Redskins hold on 3rd and goal. Field goal attempt. Good

3-0 Bills

[hail2skins]

Yes we did luck up on that one. They made moving the ball look real easy on that 1st drive. Scary.

[WackyJacky]

Keep the play-by-play coming! We're not getting the Skins down here...they're giving us SF/Tampa instead. Sheesh.

[hail2skins]

Skins will get ball at 40 because kickoff went out of bounds.

[rskinsfan10]

Will do 74

[rskinsfan10]

Loss of two by Betts

[hail2skins]

Loss of 2 by Betts on 1st down.

[hail2skins]

gain of 4 on 2nd

[hail2skins]

falst start.

[rskinsfan10]

false start 3 and 13

[hail2skins]

Ramsey pressured on 3rd and 13 must punt.

[rskinsfan10]

Why aren't we blitzing like they are?

[hail2skins]

Not a good 1st series for Skins.

[hail2skins]

Seems like we don't blitz until the 2nd half. I don't know.

[hail2skins]

Buffalo starts their 2nd series from their own 25

[hail2skins]

Bledsoe picking us apart so far.

[hail2skins]

Buffalo uses end around and gains a bunch. and add 15 for late hit by Arrington.

[hail2skins]

Skins sack Bledsoe. credit to Armstead

[hail2skins]

We have a defensive lineman down. can't see who it is. commercial break.

[Gibbs]

chase

[hail2skins]

The injured lineman is Chase. No word yet on what it is

[hail2skins]

HOlding on Buffalo. 2nd and 28 from 49

[hail2skins]

3rd and 21 for Bills

[rskinsfan10]

Hmm, that was our play. WR screen

[rskinsfan10]

Finally some pressure.

[hail2skins]

pass tipped Bills will punt. Smith got to Bledso but no sack.

[hail2skins]

Skins will start at their 9 yard line.

[Gibbs]

hows the weather there?

[hail2skins]

Looks a bit cool. not sure about the wind.

[hail2skins]

2nd and 8 for Skins

[rskinsfan10]

Betts is getting nowhere

[hail2skins]

3rd and 7 for skins. Two straight runs from Betts.

[hail2skins]

Skins call draw play on 3rd and 7 no gain. time to punt

[rskinsfan10]

This really sucks. A draw on 3rd and 8?

[NCskinsfanatic]

Another run and Betts is showing me nothing

[hail2skins]

Bills ball at their 41.

[Gibbs]

good call. shows determined to run==will open up pass later on

[hail2skins]

what a wild play

[rskinsfan10]

Unbelievable

[hail2skins]

Arrington pops ball out and it ends in Bills receiver hands.

[hail2skins]

Bills at our 20 yeard line already.

[rskinsfan10]

Bauman is getting toasted

[NCskinsfanatic]

Not at all impressed with our effort on offense thus far feel like ss is being too conservative and our D isnt playing well overall either.Giving up 1st down after1st down.

[hail2skins]

Bills 1st and 15 from our 25

[NCskinsfanatic]

I stated earlier in the week that Bauman isnt yet ready to be a starter.

[BigCountry]

Looks like we might see 3-4.........oh yeah and we might see the 3-4 defensive scheme too.

[hail2skins]

End of 1st quarter. that was fast.

[NCskinsfanatic]

An offense that scored 3 on the Jets is marching all over us.

[hail2skins]

The time of possession in the 1st quarter is very lopsided.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Originally posted by BigCountry
Looks like we might see 3-4.........oh yeah and we might see the 3-4 defensive scheme too. LOL, yeah i made the comment after the eagles loss that 3-4 by the bye was very possible.

[hail2skins]

3rd and 7 Bufallo. They call to

[rskinsfan10]

5yds in the 1st quarter. Pathetic.

[BigCountry]

129-5 in total yardage. This is a sorry excuse for a football team. It's probably gonna be 10-0 with the way Bauman is playing and our offense can't do anything becasue they're shockingly blitzing and it's working. I don't even wanna think what Dallas is gonna do to us coming out of the bye week.

Either someone on that team wakes up or we're looking at a 5-11 or 6-10 season at best.

[rskinsfan10]

3rd and 12 and they get 15.

[NCskinsfanatic]

dallas will beat our butts even with the bye week they should put some plyers in that want to play or do we not have any?

[hail2skins]

Where's the focus Arrington said he was going to have this week.

[hail2skins]

TD Buffalo

[Shabba]

our run defense is aweful

[hail2skins]

This is very ugly already.

[hail2skins]

Let's see if Spurrier can get us going. We can't afford a 3 and out on this series.

[PennSkinsFan]

The whole defense is awful. Arrington is continuing to show that he is a playmaker, but not a true outstanding defense vie player. This team does not look good and i become more and more convinced each week that we really are not a good football team.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Answer =Redskins team effort
Question=What is sucks Alex?

[NCskinsfanatic]

What we need is for them to slip up and kick it to Morton and him take one to the house.We need to light a fire under our rearends.

[Gibbs]

you have to appreciate marvin lewis

[Shabba]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
The whole defense is awful. Arrington is continuing to show that he is a playmaker, but not a true outstanding defense vie player. This team does not look good and i become more and more convinced each week that we really are not a good football team.

Some have been saying that all along. This team is absolutly horrible.

[rskinsfan10]

Wow, a pass.

[hail2skins]

A completed pass to Coles. 2nd an inches.

[BigCountry]

Or Ray Rhodes or Kurt Schottenheimer. All of them fielded a respectable defense and Schottenheimer didn't have a third of the talent the other two had. I don't know who's fault it is but something has gotta change in the offseason cause this defense is gonna finish in the bottom 20.

[hail2skins]

Betts gains about 6. 1st down

[Shabba]

betts fell for 5 yards...lol

[rskinsfan10]

My man with the big catch!!!

[hail2skins]

Big bomb to Coles. 1st and goal and Bills 8

[Shabba]

what a catch

[hail2skins]

Bills use 2nd TO

[BigCountry]

Just heard James Brown say Buffalo is last in total offense. Makes this even more pittyfull.

[hail2skins]

Great throw by Ramsey as well.

[Shabba]

come on skins

[Gibbs]

i guess this is the ss offense--reminds me of gibbs.
SS needs TEs that can block and catch to make this work though

[hail2skins]

2nd and goal for Skins. ball tipped.

[Shabba]

we have to get in the endzone

[hail2skins]

Complete to McCants at goal line.

[BigCountry]

Might as well bring in Hall on 2nd down cause you know something bad's gonna happen.

[Gibbs]

sneak it

[rskinsfan10]

I give the fuck up!!!

[Shabba]

damit all

[PennSkinsFan]

Dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmn

[hail2skins]

I can't fucking believe it. Fumble at snap. bills ball.

[rskinsfan10]

Dockery hits the ball!!

Why in the hell was he reaching his hand out?

[Gibbs]

what te hell???

[Shabba]

we have to let them stay in the hole. don't let them past the 20.

[rskinsfan10]

Did you all see that replay?

[hail2skins]

Everything that can go wrong is going wrong for us.

[BigCountry]

Told you.

[Shabba]

good stop

[hail2skins]

Bills will punt.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I told you all I had a bad feeling about this game.

[NCskinsfanatic]

wasnt it Moore that knocked it out I could be wrong but we arent playing smart it's like we dont believe in ourselves.Nice return by Morton.

[hail2skins]

We get the ball at the 50.

[rskinsfan10]

I want to know why Dockery had his hand extended on that play. It looked as if he purposely knocked it from Ramsey.

[Gibbs]

i think we'll win this game--but we're not a playoff team

[Shabba]

now let's start this again damit and this time let's get on the darn board.

[hail2skins]

The center stepped on Ramsey's foot as well on.

[PennSkinsFan]

It was a mistake, it happnes, but man, it seems to happen to us at the worst damn times. They need to keep going to Coles and make then shut him down. Take a shot to Gardner as well, come on offense!!!!!!!

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by NCskinsfanatic
wasnt it Moore that knocked it out I could be wrong but we arent playing smart it's like we dont believe in ourselves.Nice return by Morton.

It was Dockery.

[Gibbs]

at least morton's doin a bit

[NCskinsfanatic]

Yeah i guess Moore did step on him I thought that's what caused the fumble I didnt see Dockery hit him.

[Shabba]

come on skins

[BigCountry]

Told you we shouldda kicked it on 2nd down :D

[hail2skins]

This is incredible. Another fumble. We get it back

[rskinsfan10]

This is looking like the game from hell

[Shabba]

this is just terrible yall

[NCskinsfanatic]

Wasnt this what everyone complained that Rob Johnson did?Get sacked and fumble?

[IowaSkinsFan]

Another fumble?

[Shabba]

we are looking as bad as i've seen us in a long time

[¤Smooooot¤]

WE SUCK

[hail2skins]

Coles is limping

[rskinsfan10]

Coles is shaken up

[NCskinsfanatic]

Coles looked like he was banged up.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Did we fumble twice on the same play?

[Shabba]

we are lucky to just be down 10-0

[rskinsfan10]

Yes we did

[hail2skins]

We're lucky to only be down by 10

[NCskinsfanatic]

Sorry RS10 ya beat me to it.

[Gibbs]

barker doin ok

[IowaSkinsFan]

The Dan Snyder era is unraveling right before our eyes.

[hail2skins]

Off topic,

SF 21, TB 7

[IowaSkinsFan]

3 fumbles in the first half. Amazing.

[Shabba]

if they score here we may not be able to recover from it. our whole team, even the bench, looks dejected. i know the fans are.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Why would you decline a holding penalty, that's 10 yards of field position.

[rskinsfan10]

Great stance by the D

[hail2skins]

Okay offense, let's get it going.

[hail2skins]

59 yard punt from Buffalo.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by robert11273
Why would you decline a holding penalty, that's 10 yards of field position.

minus 2 on the play, and it brought along 3rd down

[Shabba]

defense again is keeping us in the game but how long can they keep doing it

[Gibbs]

becuase then they repeat the down--it wasa a good decision

[IowaSkinsFan]

Morton, 18.5 yards per return!

[hail2skins]

damn Samuels. false start

[NCskinsfanatic]

I didnt want to sound like I was giving up on the team a few weeks back but I really felt like were were very sloppy and lacked discipline.We were 3-2 and it looked liked 3-5 counting dallas was very possible and were playing worse now.I'm worried you guys.We are getting worse not better.

[rskinsfan10]

I have to just laugh now to keep my sanity

[Shabba]

chris sammuals yall

[hail2skins]

Ramsey almost intercepted.

[Gibbs]

cut samuels!!

[IowaSkinsFan]

There's a surprise, a penalty on us.

[rskinsfan10]

Bad pass by Ramsey

[NCskinsfanatic]

No one can catch this is why we tried to get Owens.

[Shabba]

damn ramsey through that ball hard

[NCskinsfanatic]

P U !

[PennSkinsFan]

Ramsey looks pathetic

[Shabba]

patrick looks shellshocked

[IowaSkinsFan]

This is too much!

[¤Smooooot¤]

FUCK THIS BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!! GOD DAMN IM FUCKIN PISSED FUCK THIS SHIT I HATE IT.

[BigCountry]

D is gonna be tired now. The team is need of a serious shakeup.

[hail2skins]

should have had a pick there.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I think the Bills feel sorry for us.

[hail2skins]

3and 20 and they get 27

[IowaSkinsFan]

A 27 yard carry on 2nd and 20?

[IowaSkinsFan]

They are getting huge chunks of yardage.

[¤Smooooot¤]

I think im gonna watch figure skating on espn.

[IowaSkinsFan]

And when they get 3 yards they still get a first down.

[BigCountry]

Even better, it was on 3rd down. This is the point where you reset your game system and look for something else to do. This "football team" is hopeless.

[NCskinsfanatic]

No ones willing to tackle they have given!It is friggen unacceptable for pro players to play like this.We have become the NFC version of the Bengals.

[IowaSkinsFan]

When does training camp open?

[hail2skins]

Bruce almost had one

[Shabba]

damn bruce over ran that one

[BigCountry]

3 and 10 for Buffalo, I wonder what's gonna happen...

[IowaSkinsFan]

We don't even look as good as the Bengals. You could see this coming all week.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Atleast someone still wants it!Come on Bruce.

[rskinsfan10]

Bruce is getting close

[Shabba]

Originally posted by robert11273
When does training camp open?

i know right

[IowaSkinsFan]

Morton is getting some nice returns today.

[NCskinsfanatic]

We will match last years record Jimmy johnson was wrong about us being the team that could really come on.I like SS it's not all his fault we have been playing like this for 10 years +.But h'll resign after the season at this rate.e

[IowaSkinsFan]

Gardner is too slow to turn those screen plays into anything substantial.

[BigCountry]

Let's see if we can get 5 yards and maybe burn some timeouts on offense to let let the defense rest :banghead: Little steps...

[Shabba]

rod gardner has to be one frustrated young man. last year he was the man and this year he is an after thought.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Wow, 3rd and long again.

[¤Smooooot¤]

Steve better fix this shit at half i i want him out of DC. no joke im startin to hate the bitch

Tone it down a bit Smooot. You aren't the only one that has dropped a bomb in this thread, but yours are starting to become obsessive


aright man its just stupid how bad we are.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Gee a personal foul on our o-line if ya cant block chop block i guess.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Why is this team so undisciplined? False starts, holding, unnecessary roughness, it just doesn't stop. The captain is responsible for the conduct of his crew.

[BigCountry]

How the hell is it 10-0? This is the worst 30 minutes of football I've ever heard of.

[IowaSkinsFan]

This really is embarassing. We have accomplished nothing in the Dan Snyder era. The only reason we won in 1999 is that Snyder got control of the team too late to do anything with it.

[PennSkinsFan]

at least our special teams have improved in 2003. They really have done a fine job this season.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I'm willing to bet Buffalo can get 30 yards in 1:48.

[BigCountry]

Another naked boot?

[IowaSkinsFan]

8 more yards and they are in field goal range.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
at least our special teams have improved in 2003. They really have done a fine job this season.

That is a ray of light in this very dark moment.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Are we going to run out the clock on this miserable first half?

[Shabba]

all the defensive line action is happening on bruce's side of the field. what the hell are the others doing. if they were doing their job then the bill would not be able to double bruce on every play.

[IowaSkinsFan]

76 yards of offense in the first half. What was that Dan Snyder said when he hired Steve Spurrier, "He would bring a super charged brand of football to Washington?"

[IowaSkinsFan]

Why are so many passes going to Gardner, are they triple teaming Coles?

[Shabba]

thatz it ... first half over ... thank god

[BigCountry]

Was he open?

[IowaSkinsFan]

That was concession play, handoff on your 26 with 25 seconds left. Way to attack SS.

[NCskinsfanatic]

I think it's just b/c we tried to trade him.

[Shabba]

again we are very lucky to just be down 10-0.

[NCskinsfanatic]

I am slowly b/c an alcoholic watching the skins the worse they play the more i drink.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by BigCountry
Was he open?

no....

[IowaSkinsFan]

I don't know when I have felt so much despair for our Skinz. I don't think I felt this bad back in 1998......yes I did, I just forgot about it.

[IowaSkinsFan]

We are becoming what all the pundit predicted we would. We have no committment to the run, an owner who meddles too much, and star players who commit stupid penalties.

[mexskins]

I just turn on my PC to tell everybody that I simply cannot believe the way we are playing.

Bad play calling!!!!!! Offense and Defense

By the way, I should have given the 49ers a 1st pick and gardner.

TO is a real playmaker.

Mex

[GolfFreak]

Well said ... on the bright side - we always have one horrible half and one great half. I hope the first half was the horrible one, and glad to be only down 10.

Arrington should expect a $5000 fine from the team like Upshaw got two weeks ago - what was he thinking???

[GolfFreak]

My post was in response to early comments ...

On the Owens trade, I'm glad no deal was done since TO is a free agent next year and I think Rod and a pick is too much to give up for Owens for 10 games.

I'd rather have Champ back!!!

[PennSkinsFan]

well, i am not sure what I want. I really think this team needs the house cleaned, players and coaches. There is no damn improvement, its the same thing as Turner years, nothing has changed.

[BigCountry]

At least we made the playoffs once with Turner and were a play away from making the NFC championship game. I still think he's a great cordinator and right now it seems like one playoff apearance in 8 years is impossible. There are alot of reasons to bash Turner, but we did have our best post-Gibbs season under him so right now I'm ranking him above Spurrier. We'll never know what Schottenheimer would have done.

[rskinsfan10]

I don't know why Gardner has emerged as the go to guy today. It aint working.

[rskinsfan10]

Morton running harder then Betts has.

[rskinsfan10]

Betts is out. His return is doubtful

[PennSkinsFan]

Morton has burst

[ShaggySkins]

FINALLY My Boy Chad Morton is getting his shot!!!!!!

[rskinsfan10]

What the hell, go for it.

[skinnay]

Did Sultan dress?

[BigCountry]

If we don't make it, I can almost promise a Bills TD.

[ShaggySkins]

Kick the Field goal take the 3 pts here then its a 1 score game

[BigCountry]

How short is the 1?

[rskinsfan10]

half a yard

[rskinsfan10]

1st down

[IowaSkinsFan]

Rock is a good player.

[rskinsfan10]

Dockery with the hold. He's a keeper...

[IowaSkinsFan]

Ahhh, that's better, I was wondering when we would get another penalty.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Give the ball to Rock!!!!

[BigCountry]

We were at the 9 too. Shocking that it would happen. At least we're in FG range and if we don't turn it over, it's potentialy a 1 score game and our offense has looked like it partially belongs in the NFL.

[rskinsfan10]

Ramsey is far from accurate today.

[skinnay]

Nice

[rskinsfan10]

TD Gardner. There you go BC.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Will the touchdown stand?

[WRSK1NS]

Way to go Ramsey and Rod!!!! YESSSSSS

[IowaSkinsFan]

Who saw the play? Corner route? Crossing pattern?

[rskinsfan10]

We matched our 1st half yardage on that drive with 76 yards. So sad.

[hail2skins]

Finally. Our almost 49er does it for us.

[WRSK1NS]

fly pattern

[BigCountry]

The Bills will probably win because our defense will let them stroll down the field or Brown will return the kickoff but I can't see them making the playoffs. They're lucky they're playing a team who are bigger ding bats then they are.

[WRSK1NS]

Caught in the middle of the right side of the end zone

[BigCountry]

Like I said, defense is chocking. This is beyond pathetic.

[rskinsfan10]

Travis Henry is running wild

[rskinsfan10]

That was too easy.

[BigCountry]

20 for 120. 6 yards per carry and they're probably about to score on this drive. Amazing, you got something back and the defense gives up.

[BigCountry]

6 plays, 80 yards, 3:56, fire Edwards.

[BigCountry]

Our defense in 99 would have played better then this. What a sorryass group of unprofessional loosers. The offense steps up, they hand it back to the other team.

[BigCountry]

And now they gotta step right back on the field.