ESPN cans Hank jr

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

He had to be an idiot to know this would'nt happen.he has the right to say anything,but he had to know there were ramifications behind comparing a jewish prime minister and an africian american president of the usa to hitler.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/06/espn-fires-hank-who-claims-he-quit/

[Skins7ny]

He had to be an idiot to know this would'nt happen.he has the right to say anything,but he had to know there were ramifications behind comparing a jewish prime minister and an africian american president of the usa to hitler.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/06/espn-fires-hank-who-claims-he-quit/

He was actually comparing President Obama to Hitler and John Boehner to Benjamin Netanyahu.

I love how he is hiding himself in "free speech". He is certainly entitled to air his opinion, without being arrested or locked up, like he would be in some countries. But he is not entitled to compare the President of the United States, whatever one thinks of him, to Hitler and still keep his cushy MNF gig, by which is paid nice sums of money by a private corporation for the popularity of his services. Once he alienates a segment of ESPN's audience by opening his mouth, it is reasonable for ESPN to refuse to alienate it further by keeping him on the program. That is their prerogative, and it is has absolutely zero to do with the First Amendment, which protects against government action only.

[Ibleedburgundy]

Unwarranted comparisons to Hitler are almost always a symptom of monumental stupidity - that's a given - but I think this illustrates a larger problem within the Republican political movement. The notion that your political rivals are the enemy is profoundly debilitating for this country, unproductive, and shockingly common. Bipartisanship has become something they look down upon. Compromise is regarded as treason.

Anyway, I hope this entire brand of know-nothing/disfunctional/Government-subverting politics gets extinguished by intelligent discourse. Wishful thinking, I know.

[akhhorus]

As the Daily Show pointed out, only an hour beforehand, the morning show he was on was rhetorically asking why anyone should listen to celebrities and what they think about politics lol.

[RedskinsDave]

Unwarranted comparisons to Hitler are almost always a symptom of monumental stupidity - that's a given - but I think this illustrates a larger problem within the Republican political movement. The notion that your political rivals are the enemy is profoundly debilitating for this country, unproductive, and shockingly common. Bipartisanship has become something they look down upon. Compromise is regarded as treason.

Anyway, I hope this entire brand of know-nothing/disfunctional/Government-subverting politics gets extinguished by intelligent discourse. Wishful thinking, I know.

I guess you were in a coma during Bush's terms. Of course you probably just thought those comparisons were warranted. :sfight:

[Skins7ny]

Unwarranted comparisons to Hitler are almost always a symptom of monumental stupidity - that's a given - but I think this illustrates a larger problem within the Republican political movement. The notion that your political rivals are the enemy is profoundly debilitating for this country, unproductive, and shockingly common. Bipartisanship has become something they look down upon. Compromise is regarded as treason.

Anyway, I hope this entire brand of know-nothing/disfunctional/Government-subverting politics gets extinguished by intelligent discourse. Wishful thinking, I know.

While I hate to agree with Dave on this, people on the left are no better than those on the right. The last 20 years has been nothing but partisanship for the sake of partisanship, and it is doing serious harm to
our country. If we ever lose our place as the world's #1 power, that will probably be the reason why. The political environment we have created makes it nearly impossible to address our problems, which are not going away just because we ignore them.

[RedskinsDave]

Also, if you are a public figure employed in any way by a public company, you deserve to lose that employment by comparing any U.S. president to Hitler.

[Keino]

Also, if you are a public figure employed in any way by a public company, you deserve to lose that employment by comparing any U.S. president to Hitler.

Absolutely.

[Ibleedburgundy]

While I hate to agree with Dave on this, people on the left are no better than those on the right.

I don't agree with that for a number of reasons. Primarily, large portions of the left do not look down on compromise with our fellow citizens. We accept it as a natural aspect of Democracy. Liberals like Obama and Clinton Govern as centrists.

Also, a sizable chunk of Democrats are moderates. Not so for Republicans where moderates are shamed as RINOs and idealogical purity is emphasized. The left has nothing comparable to pledging to never compromise on taxes as almost every Republican in congress has.

[CNYSkinFan]

As the Daily Show pointed out, only an hour beforehand, the morning show he was on was rhetorically asking why anyone should listen to celebrities and what they think about politics lol.
that segment right there is why I liove the Daily Show. the ability to point out hypocracy in the media (both left and right) is anow a pure art form for them. they own it. Thye have become the foremost media critic in the country.

[CNYSkinFan]

i personally think ESPN should take a cue from the Superbowl and hire Prince to replace Hank Williams Jr.

[CNYSkinFan]

btw I as a leftist I don't think Hank should have been fired...he should have been suspended and allowed to come back after signing a contract barring him from getting drunk right before appearing on Fox News again (thus probably keeping him off fox news forever since he is always drunk). My guess is by Hank's response that is exactly what ESPN tried to do and he balked so he got fired and then claimed to quit.

Either way, I am willing to bet real money Toby Keith is going to step in there

[FunBunch5]

I don't agree with that for a number of reasons. Primarily, large portions of the left do not look down on compromise with our fellow citizens. We accept it as a natural aspect of Democracy. Liberals like Obama and Clinton Govern as centrists.

Also, a sizable chunk of Democrats are moderates. Not so for Republicans where moderates are shamed as RINOs and idealogical purity is emphasized. The left has nothing comparable to pledging to never compromise on taxes as almost every Republican in congress has.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kool Aid anyone OHHHH YEAH!!!!

[RedskinsDave]

I don't agree with that for a number of reasons. Primarily, large portions of the left do not look down on compromise with our fellow citizens. We accept it as a natural aspect of Democracy. Liberals like Obama and Clinton Govern as centrists.

Also, a sizable chunk of Democrats are moderates. Not so for Republicans where moderates are shamed as RINOs and idealogical purity is emphasized. The left has nothing comparable to pledging to never compromise on taxes as almost every Republican in congress has.

Your thoughts are being clouded by the fact that your head is planted up your rump.

[Ibleedburgundy]

Very compelling arguments there guys.

[RedskinsDave]

There's no point in having a logical response to a completely illogical statement. You go ahead and believe your side always wears the white hat. The rest of us will live in the real world.

[CNYSkinFan]

Very compelling arguments there guys.
seriously IBB your statement was kind of a bone head statement to beigin with. There are plenty of issues on the left (ones I agree with) that are as third rail as no new taxes. Woman's right to choose, a host of labor issues, ...all stuff I agree with and fight for as a progressive so i don't mind so much that they are third rail issues for our party. And while I agree that generally the left is more willing to make a compromise (sometimes to our discredit) to throw a blanket statement like that around is just asking to get pounded on like you dropped the soap in prison.

[Ibleedburgundy]

seriously IBB your statement was kind of a bone head statement to beigin with. There are plenty of issues on the left (ones I agree with) that are as third rail as no new taxes. Woman's right to choose, a host of labor issues, ...all stuff I agree with and fight for as a progressive so i don't mind so much that they are third rail issues for our party. And while I agree that generally the left is more willing to make a compromise (sometimes to our discredit) to throw a blanket statement like that around is just asking to get pounded on like you dropped the soap in prison.

I guess the only problem with your assertion is that you are just plain wrong. Democrats have compromised on abortion. The patient protection and affordable care act bends over backwards in order to never provide funding for abortions. Democrats have offered compromise on social security in terms of benefits and eligibility. Democrats have also offered compromises regarding labor, from Wisconsin unions conceding on every point Scott Walker asked for to the auto bail outs and union restructuring as negotated by the Obama administration.

[justinskins]

Just my opinion: Yeah, HW II probably shouldn't have said it. But what he said wasn't really that bad. I wouldn't have fired him over it. Maybe I just like that song too much.

[CNYSkinFan]

I guess the only problem with your assertion is that you are just plain wrong. Democrats have compromised on abortion. The patient protection and affordable care act bends over backwards in order to never provide funding for abortions. Democrats have offered compromise on social security in terms of benefits and eligibility. Democrats have also offered compromises regarding labor, from Wisconsin unions conceding on every point Scott Walker asked for to the auto bail outs and union restructuring as negotated by the Obama administration.
Try running for office in anything but the redest state as a pro-life ant-union Democrat. the no new tax pledge is a pre-governing pledge. And republicans have raised taxes, and will in the future, despite their pledge. If you want to say the GOp is more apt to flat out lie to it's base, fine I will be with you. But to pretend the Dems dont have to take pledges like the no new tax pledge is ridiculous.

The Democrats compromise to get certain things through when they are governing, but as a veteran of many campaigns I can tell you there are pledges your candidate has to take to get the support needed to run for office.

[Ibleedburgundy]

Try running for office in anything but the redest state as a pro-life ant-union Democrat. the no new tax pledge is a pre-governing pledge. And republicans have raised taxes, and will in the future, despite their pledge.

I don't know what the popularity of the pledge was last time Republicans agreed to a tax increase - 15 years ago. Right now about 97% of the Republicans in congress have signed it thus rendering them unable to Govern properly.

If you want to say the GOp is more apt to flat out lie to it's base, fine I will be with you. But to pretend the Dems dont have to take pledges like the no new tax pledge is ridiculous.


If Democrats are taking hard line pledges on labor, abortion, and social security then they are the liars because they compromise at the drop of a hat. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with compromise - assuming they actually get something comparable in return. For the last three years Democrats have negotiated poorly.

The Democrats compromise to get certain things through when they are governing, but as a veteran of many campaigns I can tell you there are pledges your candidate has to take to get the support needed to run for office

I don't doubt it. How else do you get in a position of having the backing of a major party? That said, the Democrats simply are not as idealogically rigid and unwilling to compromise. On the left, bipartisanship is not a four letter word.

I hate it when people assume the two parties are the same without taking two freaking seconds to think about it. They are not the same. They are not equally to blame for the lack of cooperation.

[RedskinsDave]

Seriously, you follow politics far too closely to be so ignorant and glib.

[Ibleedburgundy]

You've given me so much to think about. I'll need some time to respond.

[Ibleedburgundy]

OK I'm done. You're wrong lol

[justinskins]

For anyone who wants to reminisce the good old days when Monday Night Football was on broadcast television where it belongs, here's the original Hank Williams Jr. Monday Night intro:

DbpaxjNlGNw

[RedskinsDave]

You confuse weakness with compromise but don't let that stop you from making idiotic declarations.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

i saw hank live 4 or 5 times in the 1980s,i quit going cause the last two shows of his i saw,he was so drunk he was singing one song when his band was playing another.he looked sloppy and unprofessional.I Guess that 500 foot fall he took in montana in the 1970s combined with all the liquor and drugs he has taken since then finally caught up with him.

[CNYSkinFan]

i saw hank live 4 or 5 times in the 1980s,i quit going cause the last two shows of his i saw,he was so drunk he was singing one song when his band was playing another.he looked sloppy and unprofessional.I Guess that 500 foot fall he took in montana in the 1970s combined with all the liquor and drugs he has taken since then finally caught up with him.
it is only a matter of time before he takes Glen Beck's spot on fox news lol

[Keino]

If you are a public figure employed in any way by a public company, you deserve to lose that employment by comparing any U.S. president to Hitler.

I really don't see how the discussion goes any further than this. Comparing the POTUS to Hitler was asinine from 2001-2008 and it is equally so now.

[FunBunch5]

I really don't see how the discussion goes any further than this. Comparing the POTUS to Hitler was asinine from 2001-2008 and it is equally so now.

This ^ until one our presidents preach, coordinate and execute genocide, the comparison is ridiculous and is away for celebs to reach for even more attention. It isn't that shocking anymore when about every three months for the last 10 years I hear such and such called such and such President, "Hitler".

[FunBunch5]

I hate it when people assume the two parties are the same without taking two freaking seconds to think about it. They are not the same. They are not equally to blame for the lack of cooperation.

Do you know how many times I have heard Republicans say this exact thing. I remember hearing Rush Limbaugh spewing on about this same thing in the Clinton years.

I can tell you the Democrats are unflexible on man made Global Warming (Remember Al Gore saying there is no more debate). Yet I see a lot of Republicans agreeing with it, even after the IPCC "hide the decline" scandal. They are unflexible on Gun Control and politicize every shooting as if Gun Control would have stopped it. Mayor Daley was famous for this and his city has the toughest Gun Control laws in the U.S.

The point is each side has their ideology and they are going to pushed it hard. Trust me I hear so many Republicans talk about how they eat their own and the Dems are more united.

[RedskinsDave]

Compromise:

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/186133-reid-triggers-nuclear-option-to-change-senate-rules-and-prohibit-post-cloture-filibusters]

Right on cue, Mr. Reid.

[Lavar703]

I don't agree with that for a number of reasons. Primarily, large portions of the left do not look down on compromise with our fellow citizens. We accept it as a natural aspect of Democracy. Liberals like Obama and Clinton Govern as centrists.

Also, a sizable chunk of Democrats are moderates. Not so for Republicans where moderates are shamed as RINOs and idealogical purity is emphasized. The left has nothing comparable to pledging to never compromise on taxes as almost every Republican in congress has.

You can't possibly believe what you've typed here?

[FunBunch5]

Compromise:

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/186133-reid-triggers-nuclear-option-to-change-senate-rules-and-prohibit-post-cloture-filibusters]

Right on cue, Mr. Reid.

LOL! your timing couldn't be better.

[Ibleedburgundy]

Do you know how many times I have heard Republicans say this exact thing. I remember hearing Rush Limbaugh spewing on about this same thing in the Clinton years.


I don't care what Rush Limbaugh said. He is not reasonable. Why would you listen to him?

I can tell you the Democrats are unflexible on man made Global Warming (Remember Al Gore saying there is no more debate). Yet I see a lot of Republicans agreeing with it, even after the IPCC "hide the decline" scandal.

There was no IPCC scandal. Six independent investigations cleared the IPCC of any scientific fraud or misconduct. These investigations were widely publicized - interesting that you have not heard of them. Rhetorical question: where do you get your news and information?

97-98% of climate scientists believe humans are having a significant impact on global warming:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/aug/22/rick-perry/rick-perry-says-more-and-more-scientists-are-quest/

Al Gore is correct to imply the debate is largely settled among the true experts about if there is man-made global warming. It's utterly bizarre that a large majority of Republicans would deny this overwhelming scientific consensus. I can understand politicians doing it because they are paid by special interests to do so. As for the Republican base, well, I have no idea how people can be so gullible as to trust a political party over 97-98% of the people who spend their entire lives researching a given subject - tens of thousands of scientists from 160 different countries, all reaching the same conclusion. And yet somehow James freaking Inhofe knows better. And you trust him.

Anyway, if Democrats truly weren't willing to compromise on environmental issues such as global warming, we'd have a cap and trade policy in place right now.

They are unflexible on Gun Control and politicize every shooting as if Gun Control would have stopped it. Mayor Daley was famous for this and his city has the toughest Gun Control laws in the U.S.


Democrats compromise on gun control all the time. The assualt weapons ban has not been reinstated despite the fact that Democrats had 60 Senators, a house majority, and the white house. Oh yeah, and then there's this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/04/AR2008080402260.html

Please somebody, anybody, tell me another subject where Democrats have refused to compromise, ever, under any circumstances - as 96% of congressional Republicans have on the issue of taxes.

The point is each side has their ideology and they are going to pushed it hard. Trust me I hear so many Republicans talk about how they eat their own and the Dems are more united.

Democrats are more likely to compromise by any metric that I've seen. Hell, on the debt ceiling compromise Boehner said he got 98% of what he wanted. I bet your Republican friends felt like he gave too much, or thought there should have been a Government shutdown.

[Keino]

Well, I think it is time to move this thread to the Potomac...

[RedskinsDave]

Well, I think it is time to move this thread to the Potomac...

Yeah, since we don't have a Delusional Clown forum.

[dj_stouty]

For anyone who wants to reminisce the good old days when Monday Night Football was on broadcast television where it belongs, here's the original Hank Williams Jr. Monday Night intro:

DbpaxjNlGNw

Love the Chief Zee sighting in that video...

[Ibleedburgundy]

Yeah, since we don't have a Delusional Clown forum.

Should I be grateful that you didn't compare me to Hitler?

[RedskinsDave]

Should I be grateful that you didn't compare me to Hitler?

Is that something else you think only the big meanies on the other side do too? Your people are so good and pure. I cannot control my jealousy.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

it is only a matter of time before he takes Glen Beck's spot on fox news lol

he wants to use your avatar in a special kill the rabid chipmunks campaign!
lol

[CNYSkinFan]

he wants to use your avatar in a special kill the rabid chipmunks campaign!
lol
I don't know why everyone hates my obviously pro-shanahan avatar...after all it was released by Redskins PR so it has to be awesome!

[CNYSkinFan]

and the boring replacement is (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Barry-Sanders-will-take-over-for-Hank-Williams-J?urn=nfl-wp8893)
With ESPN telling Hank Williams Jr. and all his rowdy friends to go home, the Worldwide Leader needed to find someone else to intro "Monday Night Football." Their choice for the first broadcast of the MNF era, post-Hank? Barry Sanders.

[dj_stouty]

and the boring replacement is (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Barry-Sanders-will-take-over-for-Hank-Williams-J?urn=nfl-wp8893)

Good choice. He has an electric personality. lol

[RedskinsDave]

He's like Hitler.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

I don't know why everyone hates my obviously pro-shanahan avatar...after all it was released by Redskins PR so it has to be awesome!

truth be told,i just like giving you **it over it man! lol