This is Your Hypocrite on Drugs

[Spence]

Source (http://www.centerforamericanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?cid={E9245FE4-9A2B-43C7-A521-5D6FF2E06E03}&bin_id={D4279185-2138-4D60-8557-E26508FD8C13})

[Green-Is-Good]

:lol3: :lol3:

[Spence]

Gotta love what the Libertarian Party had to say about this:

"Republican and Democratic politicians have written laws that have condemned more than 400,000 Americans to prison for committing the same 'crime' as Rush Limbaugh," said the party's executive director, Joe Seehusen. "If this pill-popping pontificator deserves a get-out-of-jail-free card, these drug warriors had better explain why...

"Given their longstanding support for the Drug War, it's fair to ask: "Why haven't President George Bush or his tough-on-crime attorney general, John Ashcroft, uttered a word criticizing Limbaugh's law-breaking?...

"Why aren't federal DEA agents storming Limbaugh's $30 million Florida mansion in a frantic search for criminal evidence?

"Why haven't federal, state, and local police agencies seized the celebrity's homes and luxury cars under asset-forfeiture laws?

"Finally, why aren't bloviating blabbermouths like William Bennett publicly explaining how America would be better off if Limbaugh were prosecuted, locked in a steel cage and forced to abandon his wife, his friends, and his career?...

"America's drug warriors are shameless hypocrites who believe in one standard of justice for ordinary Americans and another for themselves, their families and their political allies. That alone should completely discredit them."

Read it all here (http://www.lp.org/press/archive.php?function=view&record=652).

[jsarno]

it's pain killer addiction...not columbia cocaine addiction!

I dislike Limbaugh as much as the rest, but you can't lump him with the terrible criminals that deal / do hard illegal drugs.

My question to you is, where and how did he get his pills?

[Keino]

Wow. So it is your contention that only certain illegally obtained and used Drugs should be punishable offenses. Interesting.

Why can't we lump him with a drug criminal? People do time for the same crime he committed, why should he be any different?

Let me ask you, Just how are Columbian Coke dealers getting their product to the Streets of the US?

[Spence]

Originally posted by jsarno
it's pain killer addiction...not columbia cocaine addiction!

I dislike Limbaugh as much as the rest, but you can't lump him with the terrible criminals that deal / do hard illegal drugs.

My question to you is, where and how did he get his pills? JSARNO, I don't understand your point. Mr Limbaugh obtained the drugs [known on the street as "hillbilly heroin"] illegally. He had his maid purchase the drugs on the street using his money. I don't understand why you think buying one drug illegally is okay, but buying another drug illegally is awful. People go to jail for this sort of thing. Well, poor people do. Rich people don't.

[jsarno]

Originally posted by Spence
JSARNO, I don't understand your point. Mr Limbaugh obtained the drugs [known on the street as "hillbilly heroin"] illegally. He had his maid purchase the drugs on the street using his money. I don't understand why you think buying one drug illegally is okay, but buying another drug illegally is awful. People go to jail for this sort of thing. Well, poor people do. Rich people don't.

I did not realize that, and I did not know that much about HIS situation...this is why I asked.
Yes, that is just as bad,and should be punished as severely.

This is all moot, but my point is, if he's taking legal pain killers (made in the USA by pharmacies etc) then I don;t think it's nearly as bad. I had no idea it was on the streets. Lock the bastard up.

Howdid they even find this out? After he called McNabb a product for african american media racism?

[Spence]

Originally posted by jsarno
Howdid they even find this out? After he called McNabb a product for african american media racism? His maid ratted him out.

[jsarno]

HAHAHA, damn...can't find good illegal help anymore can you? :D

[Ford]

Originally posted by Spence
I don't understand why you think buying one drug illegally is okay, but buying another drug illegally is awful.

I do ... but that's pot vs something like PCP, H, Ice, or Crack.

Anyways, I despise Rush Limbaugh but I don't think it's particularly fair or kind to get on him like this. He suffers from a disease. From what I understand (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), Limbaugh originally obtained the drugs legally for a medical condition. It sounds like the addiction was formed while he was being prescribed the meds by a doctor. Either he wasn't truthful with his medical staff, or they didn't monitor him closely enough. Either way, I don't find it necessary to try and humiliate someone for their addiction. Despite how much I dislike Rush, I respect how he has taken the initiative to try and curb his addiction, and was honest with his listeners upon his departure.
Hopefully it will give him some insight on the addictions and misfortunes of others.

[Skins57]

Thing is Ford, Rush would have been the first to jump all over someone who did this if he did not like them. Also Illegal is Illegal and I am sure others who are convicted of this started the same way he did.

[ArRiNgToN_56]

Oh please "Also Illegal is Illegal and I am sure others who are convicted of this started the same way he did." thats such bullshit need i remind you of Brett Favre same thing but all anyone did to him was give him sympathy your all hypocrits.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by ArRiNgToN_56
Oh please "Also Illegal is Illegal and I am sure others who are convicted of this started the same way he did." thats such bullshit need i remind you of Brett Favre same thing but all anyone did to him was give him sympathy your all hypocrits.

If you want to continue within this particular discussion, may I suggest that you tone it down a notch. You don't know what folks here had to say about Favre, so your barbs towards them is not only unwarrented, but without merit.

[ArRiNgToN_56]

Your right, i may not know what you guys thought of Favre however i do know that he got no Jailtime so saying Rush diserves Jailtime is Hypocritical and you know it, and if you said Favre did desever JAiltime well.....good for you at least theres not a double standard. But im willing to bet that you didnt believe Farve deserved Jailtime but i could be wrong on that. Also Rush got addicted to Pain Killers unitetionally he originaly got them for the whole cholear implant. True He shouldnt have done it but, he is going in the right direction all you people want to do is tear down a good man because you dont agree with his political standpoint and frankly you should all be ashamed of yourselves.

[Chief Seeway]

Originally posted by ArRiNgToN_56
Your right, i may not know what you guys thought of Favre however i do know that he got no Jailtime so saying Rush diserves Jailtime is Hypocritical and you know it, and if you said Favre did desever JAiltime well.....good for you at least theres not a double standard. But im willing to bet that you didnt believe Farve deserved Jailtime but i could be wrong on that. Also Rush got addicted to Pain Killers unitetionally he originaly got them for the whole cholear implant. True He shouldnt have done it but, he is going in the right direction all you people want to do is tear down a good man because you dont agree with his political standpoint and frankly you should all be ashamed of yourselves.

I'm not sure if people are out for him only because of political views, but it is always the case that when you are in the spotlight everything negative is largely magnified.

[dukeuch]

Originally posted by seeway
I'm not sure if people are out for him only because of political views, but it is always the case that when you are in the spotlight everything negative is largely magnified.

I think people are out for him because of his views about what should happen to drug abusers...so long as the same treatment is not applied to him. It will be VERY interesting to see if his stance is softened or if he rationalizes about why he is different from other drug abusers.

This is the issue may of us on the left side of the spectrum have with a lot of the intolerance shown by right leaning commentators and politicians, they crucify those with various problems until they or their families become afflicted by those same problems. Nothing will soften a conservative like a dose of personal hard times.

[Ford]

Originally posted by dukeuch
I think people are out for him because of his views about what should happen to drug abusers...so long as the same treatment is not applied to him. It will be VERY interesting to see if his stance is softened or if he rationalizes about why he is different from other drug abusers.

This is the issue may of us on the left side of the spectrum have with a lot of the intolerance shown by right leaning commentators and politicians, they crucify those with various problems until they or their families become afflicted by those same problems. Nothing will soften a conservative like a dose of personal hard times.

Well, regardless of whether I agreed with his views on the matter before or not I wouldn't wish this painful addiction on him in a million years. I hope he does come away from it with some new perspective, but most importantly I hope he gets his life back together and learns to keep his addiction, which will be with him the rest of his life whether or not he is using, under control. Addiction is very hard on the user, but I'm sure it's terrible for his close friends and family too, and I just don't think it's a very tasteful subject to point out the irony of how his views might conflict with his situation.

[dukeuch]

Originally posted by Ford
Well, regardless of whether I agreed with his views on the matter before or not I wouldn't wish this painful addiction on him in a million years. I hope he does come away from it with some new perspective, but most importantly I hope he gets his life back together and learns to keep his addiction, which will be with him the rest of his life whether or not he is using, under control. Addiction is very hard on the user, but I'm sure it's terrible for his close friends and family too, and I just don't think it's a very tasteful subject to point out the irony of how his views might conflict with his situation.

Well Ford, I agree with most of the posts you have here and in other threads, but I cannot agree with you entirely here. I never wish harm on anyone, unless they through their actions cause or endorse harm on others. I believe Limbough does both. It is my belief that Limbaugh empitomizes much of what is worng with political discourse in this country, and through his rants, writings and broadcasts harms others who do not deserve it. I guess it boils down to, I do not want him to be addicted or otherwise ill, however I have a very hard time when he calls for drastic measures against folks who commit the same crime he has, but does not expect the same measures to be applied to him.

You are a better man than me on this one, I just really despise the guy and cannot help but find irony in the situation. I truely hope he beats his addiction and "sees the light". He will probably accomplish the former, but not the latter.

[dukeuch]

PS FOrd:

I hope RL gets healthy, but as far as getting his life together, I hope not. His life seems to be dedicated to causing misery among those who disagree with him.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by ArRiNgToN_56
Your right, i may not know what you guys thought of Favre however i do know that he got no Jailtime so saying Rush diserves Jailtime is Hypocritical and you know it, and if you said Favre did desever JAiltime well.....good for you at least theres not a double standard. But im willing to bet that you didnt believe Farve deserved Jailtime but i could be wrong on that. Also Rush got addicted to Pain Killers unitetionally he originaly got them for the whole cholear implant. True He shouldnt have done it but, he is going in the right direction all you people want to do is tear down a good man because you dont agree with his political standpoint and frankly you should all be ashamed of yourselves.

I think you may be taking this a tad bit too seriously. Those that poke holes at him do so because he does his best to anger those that disagree with him. It is well documented, and again mentioned within this thread, of his rhetoric about those that have abused drugs before him. Yet here he is himself, abusing drugs. You say that he got hooked unintentionally. Do you have some info that Favre got hooked intentionally?

Tear down a good man? Hardly. How many good men has he attempted to tear down?

Ashamed of myself? For offering my opinion on subjects, just as he does? Nope. Not me.

[Spence]

If Rush had not spent the last 15 years demanding that drug addicts be chucked in prison, this would not be an issue. It's the same reason that according to every poll, most Americans did not care what Bill Clinton did with Monica Lewinsky. People can forgive sin, but they cannot forgive the hypocritical sinner. If Bill Clinton had presented himself as a model husband who never cheated on his wife, the Lewinsky affair would have destroyed him. But he never did that. People never expected him to be a model husband because he never claimed to be and so most were not outraged by what happened with Lewinsky. If you claim to be holier-than-thou [as, for example, Newt Gingrich did] and it is then discovered that you've had a series of affairs during your marriage, even as you condemned others who did likewise, you're dead meat.

That's the problem with Limbaugh. He was demanding prison sentences for drug addicts, even as he himself was a drug addict. Anyone who does not see the hypocrisy there is just hopeless.

Remember the rule: Sinners get forgiven. Hypocritical sinners do not.