Shanny "in love" with Brandon Weeden?

[akhhorus]

From Don Banks, so grain of salt....

Link (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/02/22/2012.nfl.mock.draft.2/index.html?xid=si_nfl)

I gave them Texas A&M QB Ryan Tannehill in my first mock, but here's an interesting theory I heard recently that makes some sense: Mike Shanahan loves Oklahoma State quarterback Brandon Weeden, who he coached in the Senior Bowl, and might try to trade down into the 20s of the first round to take him. Weeden is 28 and that scares a lot of teams, but he's mature and ready to play in the NFL right away, and the Redskins don't have time to wait around for someone to develop.


Plausible I suppose.

[shally]

From Don Banks, so grain of salt....

Link (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/02/22/2012.nfl.mock.draft.2/index.html?xid=si_nfl)



Plausible I suppose.

didnt i just say that on another board ?? lol

yeah. Weedon will start from day 1.. he may not have the upside that some other players in the draft have, but he will hit the ground running because of his maturity

[silverspring]

Makes sense, after RG3, Weeden is the best chance for short term success. Drafting Tannehill at 6 just seems like about the most absurd reach there is. He is in the same boat as Foles, Cousins, Brock, Lindley, etc, all require development.

The real question is whether kyle is heading to the tattoo parlor with weeden.

[shally]

Makes sense, after RG3, Weeden is the best chance for short term success. Drafting Tannehill at 6 just seems like about the most absurd reach there is. He is in the same boat as Foles, Cousins, Brock, Lindley, etc, all require development.

The real question is whether kyle is heading to the tattoo parlor with weeden.

i actually think Cousins could separate himself from the next tier, if he throws well at the combine.. he is a gamer

[AustinSkin]

Under this scenario, would it be possible to:

1. Draft both Blackmon & Weeden?
2. Trade #6 for more draft picks and get Weeden with our 1st pick in the 20s, backed by extra choices in round 2,3, maybe 4?

Ahhh, what the heck do I know...

[shally]

Under this scenario, would it be possible to:

1. Draft both Blackmon & Weeden?
2. Trade #6 for more draft picks and get Weeden with our 1st pick in the 20s, backed by extra choices in round 2,3, maybe 4?

Ahhh, what the heck do I know...

i think that Tannehill will climb into the top half first round.. maybe Osweiler also reaches round 1, if he has a great combine..But Weedon is going to stay firmly in the second round because of his age and the type of offense they run

both scenario's are plausible..

[shally]

From Don Banks, so grain of salt....

Link (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/02/22/2012.nfl.mock.draft.2/index.html?xid=si_nfl)



Plausible I suppose.


Banks also has the Redskins taking Claiborne in that draft.. i just cannot see him using a pick on corner when we have a much larger need at RT..

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

didnt i just say that on another board ?? lol

yeah. Weedon will start from day 1.. he may not have the upside that some other players in the draft have, but he will hit the ground running because of his maturity

I just don't see this at all. He still has to learn a pro style system and deal with a much better level of defensive play. It's good that he may have more maturity but I hardly think that translates into a day 1 starter.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

Banks also has the Redskins taking Claiborne in that draft.. i just cannot see him using a pick on corner when we have a much larger need at RT..

if blackmon is there,we should take him. has any rookie qb ever started for shanny before?:giantsuk:

[shally]

if blackmon is there,we should take him. has any rookie qb ever started for shanny before?:giantsuk:

no..Cutler is the only first rounder, and he didnt start right away..Plummer was the starter and had them in contention for the playoffs.. they crashed and burned with Cutler

[akhhorus]

Banks also has the Redskins taking Claiborne in that draft.. i just cannot see him using a pick on corner when we have a much larger need at RT..

I think that his point was that Claiborne is BPA at 6 but trading down for a QB could be in the cards. As much as I would hate taking Claiborne, its plausible.

[shally]

I think that his point was that Claiborne is BPA at 6 but trading down for a QB could be in the cards. As much as I would hate taking Claiborne, its plausible.

if we take Claiborne, he will be the #3 corner for at least half the year, barring injury

if we take Reiff, or Adams, or DeCastro, or Glenn or Martin - they all start from day 1

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

I think that his point was that Claiborne is BPA at 6 but trading down for a QB could be in the cards. As much as I would hate taking Claiborne, its plausible.

i can't see him taking a defensive player in round 1 because the offense needs fixing so bad.i would understand it,but most other redskins fans would'nt and i think it would bring pressure on shanny that he does'nt need.
it will really get bad if he takes him over blackmon or an olinemen.:giantsuk:

[Moe]

Under this scenario, would it be possible to:

1. Draft both Blackmon & Weeden?
2. Trade #6 for more draft picks and get Weeden with our 1st pick in the 20s, backed by extra choices in round 2,3, maybe 4?
Ahhh, what the heck do I know...

I think that'd be an awesome plan and allow the staff to potentially really upgrade the talent and depth on the squad. A we get closer and closer to the draft I think the Skins could be better off using this draft to really stock the squad rather than cashing in on any single player. I am excited to see what type of player RGIII will be but I'm just not sure that it makes the most sense in the larger view to go after him. Next year's QB class could be much deeper and if the table is alread set then the transition is easier.

[akhhorus]

if we take Claiborne, he will be the #3 corner for at least half the year, barring injury


if they take Claiborne, Hall is gone before the Commish finishes the announcement or before Mayock finishes the sentence: "Wow, what a stupid pick"

[firehawk157]

Makes sense, after RG3, Weeden is the best chance for short term success. Drafting Tannehill at 6 just seems like about the most absurd reach there is. He is in the same boat as Foles, Cousins, Brock, Lindley, etc, all require development.

The real question is whether kyle is heading to the tattoo parlor with weeden.

I disagree, Weedon is a reach at 6 in the second round. All things equal, he's a third rounder IMO but I can see mid-to-late second round.

[silverspring]

I disagree, Weedon is a reach at 6 in the second round. All things equal, he's a third rounder IMO but I can see mid-to-late second round.

I agree with the rach part, but sadly everyone is reaching for QBs. I keep hearing Tannehill in the top 10.

[shally]

I disagree, Weedon is a reach at 6 in the second round. All things equal, he's a third rounder IMO but I can see mid-to-late second round.

because of the value of QB's, the only real question is whether the player has starting potential.. if he does, he is not a reach in the second round

[Lavar703]

Under this scenario, would it be possible to:

1. Draft both Blackmon & Weeden?
2. Trade #6 for more draft picks and get Weeden with our 1st pick in the 20s, backed by extra choices in round 2,3, maybe 4?

Ahhh, what the heck do I know...

Why? Why do we constanly have to be the only franchise that refuses to draft a young QB? Even when the Redskins decide to draft a QB the one they fall in love with is 28 years old. This franchise is like a bad joke that your annoying uncle tells at every holiday get-together.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

last two times he fell in love,with mcnabb and grossman,it did'nt work out so good for the team.:giantsuk::giantsuk:

[jaylen]

So in Banks mind we're gonna draft an old qb LOL I don't see this happening at all. I don't see Snyder going along with this. And I don't think Weeden is that good.

This franchise is just adverse to developing a young qb. Just reach at greatness and trade up for RGIII.

Shanny being IN LOVE with a qb is a sick thought he loved Beck/Grossman.

How'd that crap work out.

[Lavar703]

So in Banks mind we're gonna draft an old qb LOL I don't see this happening at all. I don't see Snyder going along with this. And I don't think Weeden is that good.

This franchise is just adverse to developing a young qb. Just reach at greatness and trade up for RGIII.

Shanny being IN LOVE with a qb is a sick thought he loved Beck/Grossman.

How'd that crap work out.

Trading up for RGIII is a lot easier said than done. While I very much doubt the fact the Browns would trade up for him, I also kind of doubt they even really want him I still believe the Browns hold all the cards as far as RGIII is concerned. If the Browns tip there hand and immediately sign Flynn when free agency starts which I think is the most likely scenario than RGIII belongs to the Redskins. I know it sounds crazy and unbelievable right now but nobody has any idea of what will happen draft-wise until free agency begins.

[esmith1790]

I bet Cheech and Chong (Williams and Davis) would love the "WEEDen" pick.

:niceday:

[NCskinsfanatic]

Why? Why do we constanly have to be the only franchise that refuses to draft a young QB? Even when the Redskins decide to draft a QB the one they fall in love with is 28 years old. This franchise is like a bad joke that your annoying uncle tells at every holiday get-together.

Well after RGIII, who is their that really can be considered a day one guy? I think Weeden because of his maturity might be the best QB available to play this season. I get your point in regards to his age but if the alternative would be more of Rex/Beck while we wait a year or more on a guy like Foles, Cousins, etc. then Weeden might be the best move for this season and the next 2-3. I think our chances of getting RGIII are about as good as Rex cutting down on his turnovers next season if he were named starter. I know you dont think the Browns are players but I do... hopefully I'm wrong. I also get the impression Shanny sees too many holes on this roster to lose his 2nd this year and his 1st next year...if the cost is even that "cheap".

[CNYSkinFan]

more proof that we never had rebuild in mind...only win now

[silverspring]

more proof that we never had rebuild in mind...only win now

Important point. The worse thing we can do is make a giant reach, such as tannehill or weeden at #6 or frankly either in the first round. Or trading the house for RG3.
We can't let shanahan's failures at the qb position and a subsequent panic to fix it, trump building the redskins as a whole.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

I Think that the dolphins are gonna be a player in this too because they clearly need a new qb,and trading for rg III would put a lot of fannies in the seats there in miami. if they don't sign flynn,i think it is because they are gonna go after rg III fast and furious!:giantsuk:

[shally]

I Think that the dolphins are gonna be a player in this too because they clearly need a new qb,and trading for rg III would put a lot of fannies in the seats there in miami. if they don't sign flynn,i think it is because they are gonna go after rg III fast and furious!:giantsuk:

or Manning...

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Important point. The worse thing we can do is make a giant reach, such as tannehill or weeden at #6 or frankly either in the first round. Or trading the house for RG3.
We can't let shanahan's failures at the qb position and a subsequent panic to fix it, trump building the redskins as a whole.

The first part I agree with but not the second. The quickest and easiest way to get better, and the best way to maintain that success is to have a young dynamic qb. Trading up for RGIII would be a sign of trying to build something great even if the skins have to give up assets to get there.

[Santheb]

i actually think Cousins could separate himself from the next tier, if he throws well at the combine.. he is a gamer

I'd love to see Cousins in the B&G. Been saying that one for a while. Unfortunately, I don't, or maybe can't, see that happening. I agree though. I think he'll be a good one in a few years.

[joethefan]

more proof that we never had rebuild in mind...only win now


Well Dustin, unfortunately Shanny played with the Electric Football set Qb's too long. Now he has to win. He should have made his move last year to get his guy.

I don't need Shanny being in love with any QB...we know where that leads to. I'm waiting to hear of the guy he hates. That should be the guy we draft...Hell, by all accounts they still like Rex if you let Kyle tell it by making so many excuses for him. Go with the guy you hate.

[silverspring]

The first part I agree with but not the second. The quickest and easiest way to get better, and the best way to maintain that success is to have a young dynamic qb. Trading up for RGIII would be a sign of trying to build something great even if the skins have to give up assets to get there.

Quick fixes haven't worked in the past, why do you think they will work now? When will we learn.

[CNYSkinFan]

Important point. The worse thing we can do is make a giant reach, such as tannehill or weeden at #6 or frankly either in the first round. Or trading the house for RG3.
We can't let shanahan's failures at the qb position and a subsequent panic to fix it, trump building the redskins as a whole.
i agree with the first two points but reaching for RGIII would signal to me at least an understanding that therer is no quick fix but we are going to try and fix the most important piece and use our cap room to fill in other pieces

[skinsfan36]

Trying to consider weeden it just bothers me that he is 28 yrs old. I'd rather draft tannenhill or cousins if we can't get rg3

[AustinSkin]

Trying to consider weeden it just bothers me that he is 28 yrs old. I'd rather draft tannenhill or cousins if we can't get rg3

I'm with you, but I just can't shake the feeling that Weeden is going to be very good in the years to come. He has a lot to prove and I think he's up to the challenge.

[HanburgerBum]

didnt i just say that on another board ?? lol

yeah. Weedon will start from day 1.. he may not have the upside that some other players in the draft have, but he will hit the ground running because of his maturity


Why is it necessarily a good thing to draft a QB who will start from day 1? The Redskins are not a serious contender in 2012 regardless who is the QB. So, it should not matter one bit that they draft a QB who can start immediately.

Weeden is already 28 and from where I sit, not that talented. This would seem like reaching for "silver", or even "bronze", instead of "gold".