OFFICIAL GAME THREAD Washington/Carolina

[PennSkinsFan]

Discuss the game here.

[PennSkinsFan]

Here we go!

[frankez99]

damn.....skins vs panthers and I'm stuck watching bears-rams.....damn fox affiliate! Hail to the Redskins..

[PennSkinsFan]

Nice return, 29 yards by Morton.

[RedskinsDave]

That should've been a TD

[PennSkinsFan]

Yeah, Ramsey threw it way out of bounds. How can they leave Coles that wide open?

Good coverage by Jacobs and Terrell, 1 yard punt return

[PennSkinsFan]

Stephen Davis FUMBLED!!!!!!!!! Redskisn recover

[RedskinsDave]

Example A, why I had a love/hate thing with him.

[PennSkinsFan]

Pass interference. First and goal on the four

[PennSkinsFan]

Canidate down to the three

[Skinzaholic]

Great chance for a start!

[rhyno]

this sucks! stupid rams/bears. i'm watching game on nfl.com stats and its way behind you guys..

[PennSkinsFan]

Canidate down to the 1 1/2

[Skinzaholic]

Need a TD here.

[PennSkinsFan]

Fumble Rock Cartwright

[PennSkinsFan]

Dammit! Carolina ball

[RedskinsDave]

WTF?!!!!!!!

[RedskinsDave]

Screw this team. How are we supposed to take this every week?

[rhyno]

WTF, did he have to fumble just becuse his boy did?!

[NCskinsfanatic]

Now thats the SD I remember(FUMBLE)LOL.I was suppose to be at this game but I have the flu.Speaking of fumbles we just did.

[Skinzaholic]

Is it a saftey?

[rhyno]

yep

[Skinzaholic]

2 - 0 and we get the ball.

[PennSkinsFan]

Man Rock, that is one thing that you do not wanna do with SS as your coach.

[RedskinsDave]

Unreal

[rhyno]

nope

[Skinzaholic]

Thats not too bad.

[PennSkinsFan]

It's a touchback.

[RedskinsDave]

What made you think it would be a safety?

[Skinzaholic]

No saftey?

[rhyno]

nfl.com

[NCskinsfanatic]

What a blown opportunity!I bet that one costs us this game if it's a close one.SD seems to have rebounded so far.

[Skinzaholic]

Stupid NFL.com called it that.

[PennSkinsFan]

Sweet job stopping the reverse.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Atleast we can stop steve smith.

[Skinzaholic]

and now Big Country starts to roll.

[RedskinsDave]

You're gonna penalize the defense for picking up a fumble? To get a safety, you have to establish control outside of the endzone and then go into the endzone.

[PennSkinsFan]

Come on defense, stop the third down conversions HERE!

[Skinzaholic]

Now stop 3rd down.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Nice tackle outside by LA and Bailey.

[IowaSkinsFan]

WE need a big stop here!

[RedskinsDave]

Oh sorry, I guess you're not watching.

[PennSkinsFan]

Pass off Bailey again!

[NCskinsfanatic]

We didnt get a big stop go figure.

[IowaSkinsFan]

So far, we have seen the old Stephen Davis we used to know. Some good yards and a fumble.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Bailey gave up the first down?

[Odyn]

Unfortunately, I have to watch the game via computer. Did the replay show if Rock crossed the goal line?

[IowaSkinsFan]

Why did we call a timeout?

[PennSkinsFan]

Rhyno, we got ya covered here. Commerical right now, time out redskins

[PennSkinsFan]

No odyn, he did not. The ball was knocked out as he started up.

[NCskinsfanatic]

He didnt get it across before it came out the replay showed it pretty clearly IMO.

[rhyno]

good lookin out

[IowaSkinsFan]

Was Bailey covering Smith?

[PennSkinsFan]

Intercepted SmooT!!!!!!!!!

[NCskinsfanatic]

Beatiful.I love smoot INT!

[rhyno]

smmmooooottt

[IowaSkinsFan]

Way to go Smoooooot!

[RedskinsDave]

Smoooooooooooooooot

[NCskinsfanatic]

PSF youre too fast for me LOL.

[Skinzaholic]

Dont blow this one.

[PennSkinsFan]

Incomplete to Gardner

[NCskinsfanatic]

Ramsey sure is overthrowing people.

[IowaSkinsFan]

We've got to score first and stay ahead, like Tennessee did!

[PennSkinsFan]

Candiate, 2 yard gain, 3rd and 8

[IowaSkinsFan]

Is Ramsey nervous or what?

[PennSkinsFan]

Ramsey sacked. 4th down and out comes John Hall.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Canidate just can't gain yards inside the tackle. We need someone else who can. He won't ever be more than a third down back.

[NCskinsfanatic]

CB blitz Ramsey had no time that was not him holding too long was it?

[rhyno]

i don't think he is going to be consistent till next year

[PennSkinsFan]

46 yarder....MISSED

[IowaSkinsFan]

Was that a corner blitz or what? Cousins is a DB, isn't he?

[RedskinsDave]

We suck

[NCskinsfanatic]

Hall missed wide left.We have blown 2 chances we are not getting i done on O.

[Skinzaholic]

OMG

[rhyno]

almost out of field goal range, oh wait, i guess it was..

[Skinzaholic]

This doesnt look good.... chance for 14... got 0.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Smoot returns the ball to the 19, and we wind up kicking from the 36! that is messed up.

[PennSkinsFan]

Wow, John Hall missed

Actually, besides that LB blitz, Ramsey has been protected real well. I don't understand the play calling thus far. You have a turnover and the ball on the 20 yard line. Heck, I run the first two possessions. We are not in balance like last week.

[rhyno]

reminds me of the dallas game

[NCskinsfanatic]

Unexcusable,the D is doing more than their fare share.

[IowaSkinsFan]

That is going to hurt. Have the ball twice inside their 20 and get 0 points. How can you make that up?

[IowaSkinsFan]

I have a feeling we are going to get a heaping load of Davis now.

[PennSkinsFan]

Good play by Upshaw, stopping Davis.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Maybe SS gave a little more "advice"in the game planning this week.

[PennSkinsFan]

Nice play by Todd Frantz stopping Davis.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Nice D!

[PennSkinsFan]

GOOD DEFENSE!

[IowaSkinsFan]

How many people do we have in the box?

[rhyno]

3rd down has never scared me so much as these last few games

[IowaSkinsFan]

Think Carolina will go for it?

[PennSkinsFan]

Carolina punting. Touch back.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Commercial break

[IowaSkinsFan]

Maybe we just had the jitters to start. Let's see how the O gets going now.

[Skinzaholic]

Now our Offense needs to get things together... if we can get an early lead we can take control.

[IowaSkinsFan]

That series was tough on Davis. He went from 8 yards a carry down to 6!

[NCskinsfanatic]

We need a solid drive and I'm willing to go out on a limb and say we will need john hall today.I doubt he'll miss inside 50 again.The sack really hurt.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Back to the Ramsey sack, was it a 5 or 7 step drop? Who saw it?

[rhyno]

we should easily be sitting 10-0 right now.. i'm pretty upset at this stupid little helmet i'm watching run accross the field ;-)

[BigCountry]

Should have been at least 7-0. You don't beat good teams when you make mistakes like we did. What's more is Rock might be in the doghouse and Canidate will get alot carries. Not that Cartwright doesn't deserve to be bench cause that could loose us the game.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Another 2 yard gain for Canidate!

[PennSkinsFan]

Gain of five, 3rd and 3

[PennSkinsFan]

Horrible pass by Ramsey

[IowaSkinsFan]

Ware is now our leading receiver this game!

[NCskinsfanatic]

A punt.Ramsey seems a little off.He has had decent protection but his accuracy is off.

[IowaSkinsFan]

What's up with Ramsey?

[RichardBradley]

Ramsey has to play better

[rhyno]

good kick

[PennSkinsFan]

well, another friggin punt. I guess we will aks the defense to STEP up AGAIN.

Only good thing i see is Ramsey started horrible last week to. He seems to start cold then get hot, so we will see if that is the case here.

[Skinzaholic]

Ramsey seems a bit off to start.

[IowaSkinsFan]

We are starting to get pushed back in the field position game. We had an excellent opportunity to go up on them, missed that twice, and now we are losing field position.

[NCskinsfanatic]

A nice running game could help calm him down.

[Odyn]

We need Champ to have a big game so we can stack the line.

[Skinzaholic]

This is falling right into Carolina's hands so far... they pound the defenses until the 4th qtr when the defense is so tired their pathetic offense can score.

Only difference is... this time WE are pounding our own Defense.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Man do I hate, hate, hate leaving points on the field, we should be up 10-0, minimum!

[PennSkinsFan]

Davis...NO WHERE!

[NCskinsfanatic]

Our D is playing real well against this Panther team so far .

[PennSkinsFan]

David, maybe three

[IowaSkinsFan]

We need Bailey to step up like Smoot and cover 3rd and 12's. Should not get first downs there.

[PennSkinsFan]

First down Carolina.

[NCskinsfanatic]

1st down panthrs.slant to muhammed for 11.

[IowaSkinsFan]

There's nothing wrong in holding a team to third and 5. CB's need to step up now.

[rhyno]

tru dat, Bailey: Grab your jock!

[PennSkinsFan]

Sweet tackle by Armstead

[rhyno]

theres something wrong with it when we know we can't stop 3 and 5

[NCskinsfanatic]

For the money he wants we shouldnt even have to suggest he step up.

[IowaSkinsFan]

You just can't give up 11 yards on third down, you can't!

[PennSkinsFan]

Incomplete, 3rd and 9. Need a stop DEFENSE!

[rhyno]

hows the d-line looking right now, any push?

[IowaSkinsFan]

Okay, here we go again, third and 9. Bailey and Smoot, earn your paychecks.

[NCskinsfanatic]

another 3rd down.another big catch by carolina.

[PennSkinsFan]

Another first down, this one to off Matt Bowen.

[rhyno]

unbelievable, seems like the only way to stop 3rd down is with a turnover

[IowaSkinsFan]

I told you Ricky Proehl was better than our #3 CB!

[IowaSkinsFan]

Are we getting any pressure at all?

[rhyno]

who's our #3 right now, terrell?

[NCskinsfanatic]

If only we had a pass rush.we wpuld be shutting them down right now.Oh yeah and an O wouldnt hurt.Did they just say that SS was taking back over the play calling?

[IowaSkinsFan]

With their kicker, they are in FG range already.

[NCskinsfanatic]

I'll be happy if we hold to a fg.A td would be hard to swallow.

[PennSkinsFan]

Wide open, 28 yard completetion, that was bad, not a soul around him.

[rhyno]

bailey....

[NCskinsfanatic]

!st and goal where was bailey,never mind that was on the Safety.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by NCskinsfanatic
Did they just say that SS was taking back over the play calling?

Can anyone confirm this?

[PennSkinsFan]

David gets no where. Nice stop by Bruce.

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally posted by robert
Can anyone confirm this?

They were kidding

[rhyno]

brrruuuccee

[PennSkinsFan]

Sweet stop, Davis is getting nothing.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Of all teams you don't want to get behind, it is this team. They can pound it out and control the clock.

[PennSkinsFan]

DEFENSE HOLDS

[IowaSkinsFan]

What an irony. The run D is looking good and Delhomme is killing us!

[NCskinsfanatic]

It showed SS come over and take the play book and start talking with Ramsey and Hue walked off.Didnt look like anyone was pissed announcers mentioned that ss might want to call the plays.

[rhyno]

good hold boys

[IowaSkinsFan]

That stop was on the run D. Pass D is showing nothing.

[Skinzaholic]

We seem to be stepping it up against Davis... yet giving up the pass.

SD only 35 yards first qtr.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Atleast we held them to 3.Now we need 7 and all will be ok again.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Stephen Davis: 3.7 yards per carry and 1 fumble. I'll take that!

[rhyno]

this bears game is pissin me off, i don't even know why i'm watching it..

[Skinzaholic]

Ou defense is gonna get tired quick if this keeps up. Come on Ramsey!

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
They were kidding

The announcers?

[NCskinsfanatic]

We are getting the same SD that we had last year and every time we played the cowboys LOL.

[IowaSkinsFan]

We need a long drive with some points. As good as our D is playing, they won't be able to keep it up.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Morton just had the 20 knocked of his jersey.

[PennSkinsFan]

LETS GO OFFENSE!!!!

[Skinzaholic]

J Kasay just kicked it 67 yards.

[PennSkinsFan]

4 yard catch by Flem

[Odyn]

They are controlling the clock. 11:13 to 5:55

[NCskinsfanatic]

Finally a catch and by Flem at that 5 yd pick up.

[PennSkinsFan]

You can't hold the bvall like that Ramsey. That was not protection fault.

[NCskinsfanatic]

That time PR should have gotten rid of it.It weas a coverage sack but he shoulda run or something.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Who is Kerry Jenkins?

[PennSkinsFan]

Ok, the offense just plain, and really , plainly sucks right now

[NCskinsfanatic]

Ugly,wheres the run?SS must be calling the plays LOL.

[Skinzaholic]

Another 3 and out.

[PennSkinsFan]

I am getting pissed ta the play calling. Why are we not running???????? We were successful last week. WTF Hue???????

[Odyn]

How are they getting coverage sacks when they have a "poor" coverage? Our secondary is getting eaten alive!

[NCskinsfanatic]

Thats what we should call this O instead of fun n gun, 3 n out.

[RichardBradley]

Kris Jenkins is probably the best DT in the NFL right now

[NCskinsfanatic]

Originally posted by Odyn
How are they getting coverage sacks when they have a "poor" coverage? Our secondary is getting eaten alive! I dont know,but the guys calling the game showed no one was open.Ramsey just kept holding it waiting for someone to get free.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Every time they start a new possession, they are moving closer and closer to mid field.

[rhyno]

haha, nfl.com said he "muff"ed the catch

[PennSkinsFan]

Folks it is easy. Look at the run/pass ratio thus far

[Odyn]

Spurrier has to help Ramsey with this problem of waiting too long with the football.

[NCskinsfanatic]

IT'll be abot 3rd and 4.We have to keep stopping them.

[IowaSkinsFan]

How can our WR's not be getting open? Their WR's are running through our secondary like we are only playing with 7 defenders.

[PennSkinsFan]

Great defense. Nearly picked off by Bruce. Carolina to punt.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Chase and Dalton seem to be playing well. Haven't heard anything from Russell yet.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Big hit deflected by LA almost picked by Smith.

[rhyno]

come on mort

[IowaSkinsFan]

You've got to give our defense credit. They are holding them, with the exception of those long pass completions on their scoring drive.

We've got to get Coles involved.

[Skinzaholic]

One impressive note is our stopping SD thus far.

[rhyno]

not bad

[IowaSkinsFan]

We have got to get something going now!

[Skinzaholic]

Delhomme - 6/10 - 77yrds - 1 INT

[RichardBradley]

The defense is playing well except for that missed coverage by Bowen

[NCskinsfanatic]

Now I dont care who is calling the plays we have to have a TD now would be a very good time .

[Skinzaholic]

I think we need to get Rock back into it.

[rhyno]

give him a break, his heads still spinnin

[Odyn]

Ramsey- 3/7 15yrds

[NCskinsfanatic]

Short gain by Coles(reverse)

[PennSkinsFan]

RUN TO ROCK, RUN TO ROCK!

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by Skinzaholic
One impressive note is our stopping SD thus far.

Yeah, right now he is averaging less than 4 yards a carry, and he started off averaging 8 yards a carry. The D has really stepped it up on him.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Gardener was wide open and he slipped

[PennSkinsFan]

I am just befuddled at the play calling. How Hue can call an excellent game last week and be so weak this week baffles me.

[Odyn]

Cmon guys!

[rhyno]

is johnson active?

[NCskinsfanatic]

PU........nt

[Odyn]

Wow. This is sad...

[IowaSkinsFan]

Dammit, another 3 and out!

[rhyno]

36 total yards...

[Skinzaholic]

A-gain!

[IowaSkinsFan]

A few completions here and there would make Hue's play calling seem better, I think.

[Skinzaholic]

It hurts to watch the Defense play so well and so hard and then the Offense acts like they just learned the game.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Hey I may have the Flu but this Offense spitting and sputtering is playing like they're sick.

[PennSkinsFan]

OK, a few things baffle me.

1. Rock had a fumble. OK, get over it like Carolina did with Davis. We need to get the ball in hishands. he gets 5 yards per carry.

2. Where are the quick screens?

3. Where is Byron Chamberlain?

4. It is time to get Jacobs involved!

[RichardBradley]

36 total yards and most of them are penalty yards

[rhyno]

9to 7 pass to run

[BigCountry]

If the Panthers don't make any mistakes, this is gonna be a shutout. We had our chances earlier and in a game like this, you loose if you don't take advantege. Right now we're probably headed in that direction.

[rhyno]

heard byron's in the dog house still from a few weeks ago..

[NCskinsfanatic]

Originally posted by Skinzaholic
It hurts to watch the Defense play so well and so hard and then the Offense acts like they just learned the game. I know and whats going to happen is that the D in the second half will be tired of tryng in vain.After that play action pass it might not take until the second half.

[rhyno]

just beautiful...

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally posted by rhyno
heard byron's in the dog house still from a few weeks ago..

Why? Because of two flase starts? I guess everyone on the line, except Thomas, shoudl be in the dog house.

[rhyno]

no, from blown blocks

[BigCountry]

4-6, here we come.

[PennSkinsFan]

WOW, they are killing Davis, maybe one yard!!!!

[NCskinsfanatic]

SD aint going no where right now wish we could stop the pass.

[PennSkinsFan]

Intercepted on a reflection . Matt Bowen.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Dammit, Delhomme is killing us. Why can they make it look so easy and we are going 3 and out every time?

[rhyno]

lets hold on to some little thread of optimism here, its early and we've gotta start clicking on o sometime

[NCskinsfanatic]

Picked off!Someone up there still loves us!

[rhyno]

there you go!! way to take one back bowen!! stars must be clearing for him!!

[PennSkinsFan]

DAMMMMMMMMMMIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTT!

Where is Cartwright???????

[NCskinsfanatic]

Canidate lacks the power that we need against this D

[rhyno]

no poo?! give it to the rock!!

[PennSkinsFan]

OK, i admit it now. Trung sucks! I see nothing in him at all.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Underneath to Rock 3rd and 4.We have to convert!

[BigCountry]

Rock's in the doghouse.

[IowaSkinsFan]

For as bad as our O looks, we are only down 3. Come on Ramsey.

Stop giving the ball to Canidate. He is not tough enough to get the needed yards on first down.

[PennSkinsFan]

23 yard completion to Rock.

[rhyno]

I told you! give to the rock!! He's the peoples champ!!

[IowaSkinsFan]

Big play by Rock!

[NCskinsfanatic]

Ramsey 1st down pass,He almost ran then saw his man.

[PennSkinsFan]

Hue????? Listen to me







































EFFFFFFFFFFFFFF Canidate

[rhyno]

and back to trung the bung

[PennSkinsFan]

Ram overthrow.

Gardner wide open.

[NCskinsfanatic]

I smell what your cooking O,he just needs to hold the ball.Gardener was again wideopen.Ramsey overthrow.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Damn, when are SS and Hue going to get tired of these 1 and 2 yard gains by Canidate?

[NCskinsfanatic]

QB draw to the 5?FG hopefully.

[PennSkinsFan]

Hall for the FG. This one will be good.

3-3

[IowaSkinsFan]

What is wrong with Ramsey. Is it really cold there or something? He hasn't been this bad on accruacy all year. Sounds like last years Green Bay game.

[RichardBradley]

Why in the hell did Bowen run out of bounds?

[NCskinsfanatic]

Thankyou John!