Not popular opinion but...

[truant]

lay off trung a little.

I'll pause a moment for all of you to gather your tomatoes.

(I'm glad i can count on E8 to show trung a little love)

I'll be the first one to admit that i LOVED trading for him and i still think that he's a good player.

He's getting punked in all these posts. He's hobbled by the ankle but is he not the same back that was ripping off 5 a carry a few weeks ago?

What's more likely, he's been hurt by the ankle or he completely sucks (but was pretty good a few weeks ago)?

At least he hasn't coughed up the ball [other than being caught from behind, a great play (what he was "known" for). Nobody is tearing it up in our backfield right now. In reality none of our backs are deserving of the full time job, so let the coaches continue to divide it up however they like. Betts should be back soon and he should give us a better idea about our backfield.

[jonesy]

Pretty much agree, the dropped pitch hurt but I think he would be running better healthy. I know personally those high sprained ankles take forever to truly heal where you push off cut and accelerate etc. Maybe he needs more painkillers. We need to use him better, I have not seen any room on the sweeps or much room at all when he has gotten the ball.

[dj_stouty]

I didn't see Trung play in college...and I didn't see him in much action in St. Louis...but I'm still looking for that "exposive" speed everyone says he possesses while running the ball. I'm not bashing the guy...I just haven't seen it yet.

[BigCountry]

Trung is one of the main reasons I'm looking at Kevin Jones and Steven Jackson with such interest.

[hail2skins]

Well, Spurrier on his show today said they were expecting Betts to sort of takeover and become the feature back this year, even though they signed Trung.

[truant]

Two stud backs there, no doubt. But that would require a first or second round pick. We need two drafts worth of picks for our O and D lines.

[Emmanouel8]

I can understand being upset with Rock on the fumble. It was probably the game difference BUT I'm more thumbs down with Trung. His day was a waste and IF I'm coaching he's now at the bottom of the healthy backs. I don't want to see him again this year. .......

Truant it really is amazing. It raises an eyebrow when Rock gets a thumbs down for a GOALINE fumble some how like an angry mob scene a red-herring rears it's ugly head and everybody shifts the blame toward Trung for everything. Lmao.

Trung is the scapegoat for everything and an easy target for most. We can't protect Ramsey, it's Trungs fault he can't block. Oh but Rock missing Roy Williams was great protection. It's hilarious.

Why is he an easy target b/c he doesn't get 20 carries a game and he's playing hurt right now. It doesn't help when Ramsey calls an audible for Trung to run up the gut, which Ramsey did twice yesterday. Whether it was a dummy audible or not the play was the same.

It doesn't help when they do run him it's between tackles and his strength is going outside. It doesn't help he gets a whopping 6 passes thrown to him all year even though I think he can be a threat in the air. One of his catches went for 25 yds on a 3rd and 20+.

Regardless, here's some facts. In the 1st four games Trung had 46 carries for 251 yds. That is a 5.45 ypc in a four game stretch. What's so egregious about that? He's playing w/ a bad ankle right now and the playcalling is not tailored to his strengths so why is everybody laying it on Trung? We gave up a 4th rounder for him and people act like it was two 1st rounders. I got to go my food is ready.

Here's where H2 wonders why I'm so bent out of shape for the millionth time.

[PennSkinsFan]

Trung sucks and Spurrier looks as if he finally knows it, giving Trung no vote of confidence and besacially saying what many of us knew, that if we do have a solution at RB, it is the one that has been hurt all year, Mr. Betts. SS knows that the Trung trade was a mistake.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Despite how we shut him down I think SS knows we could be a playoff team if we still had SD.I dont think trung sucks per say I do think he is a change of pace back at best though.We need a RB that can run between the tackles and cut it outside,it's just a shame we had one last year and didnt think he fit.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Trung is never going to be a back to get you the tough yards up the middle. Teams were respecting us a little more when he was averaging over 5 and our passing game was clicking. Over that 4 game span when D's were kicking our butts, he wasn't doing so well. You need a RB that can break a least 1 tackle and pick up some extra yards.

[DallasSux]

i didnt like it when we got trung. but he hasnt been too bad.

[NamVet4]

I am a big fan of the Rock, however I'll say that there sure as hell hasn't been much of an O line to help Trung and his running game. Coupled with the injury I give him a pass. But, Coach should understand that right now he doesn't have the O line and healthy running backs to make the Fun 'N Gun work.
"He's not had a lot of big holes to go through," Spurrier said. "We thought he ran hard yesterday. He's a 195-pound tailback, running up against some big guys. He needs some big holes to make big yards."

[dj_stouty]

Originally posted by Emmanouel8
Trung is the scapegoat for everything and an easy target for most.

Hold you horses, E8...

Trung gets crap when he doesn't perform...just like every other Redskin player.

In fact, I would say more people have been blaming Samuels, Arrington, Champ, Dockery..etc. much more than they have been giving crap to Trung.

That is the way things are in this day-in-age of free agency and parity. You play well...you get a pat on the back from the fans. You play bad...you get crap. You know the drill.

[Skinzaholic]

I have seen Trung's speed in the past and he does indeed have some burners. The main problem with him is his lack of size. He needs a big hole or a shot to the outside to allow his speed to make anything work... and that isnt always easy to get int he NFL.

Betts does seem to have some speed (not as much) and, along with Rock, has the size/power to push through the holes... thus MAKING holes.

If Trung could gain about 40 lbs of muscle he would be a terror!

[Emmanouel8]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
Trung sucks and Spurrier looks as if he finally knows it.

Wow PSF are you giving Spurrier credit for finally knowing something? Spurrier has mismanaged the backfield the last two years. Yeah I stick w/ the guy but I don't think everything he's doing is right.

[Emmanouel8]

Originally posted by dj_stouty
Hold you horses, E8...

Trung gets crap when he doesn't perform...just like every other Redskin player.

In fact, I would say more people have been blaming Samuels, Arrington, Champ, Dockery..etc. much more than they have been giving crap to Trung.



Those players, except for Dockery, get payed to play good enough to expect pro-bowl caliber performances. Trung was a 4th rounder and a modest cap hit and has performed at least as such.

Trung was brought in according to a 'plan' that is speed. However Spurrier is lost in putting the proper personnel in to take advantage of that. Instead putting all his burners on the field at one time to creat mismatches he puts in the 'slower' guy's and runs deep routes. He doesn't have to do it everyplay b/c we have some good players that can get the job done otherwise. He should however do it at least half of the time.

Line up Coles, Jacobs, and PJ w/ Trung in the backfield a few times a game and run some freakin plays for crying outloud. Send them all deep and throw a RB screen to Trung or something. Instead he'll(Spurrier/oc) have Coles and Trung on the field and run up the gut?! WTF is that? Then he'd run his power guy's wide?! That's what I envisioned when we got those players and I have yet to see Spurrier utilize that plan at all so how am I supposed to judge those in-between players otherwise who brought in to do as much but are not?

Most of the time Coles is the only guy on the field that separates himself from what we had talentwise last year and all the speed guy's like Patrick Johnson are on the bench most of the game while we watch Gardener drop a hundred passes.

Spurrier was better last year mixing up the WR line-up this year he's stuck w/ some uncreative personnell and play-calling that does not favor the personnel.

A part of this season everybody was content w/ Betts/Trung b/c it worked when they had their shots. It's not their fault Spurrier didn't go w/ what was working. But you guy's have forgotten b/c there's a new flavor of the week.

Yes I think Spurrier is coaching like a complete bafoon, but I still what to give this guy one more offseason to make it happen for us. Point is all of our RB's have made great plays and bad one's but the glaring thing is mismanaging the talent. The team was built for speed and the speed is not on the field offensively.

5.45 ypc folks and you're talking about breaking tackles! It's like saying Bowen is no good b/c he doesn't lay people out like Ronnie Lott even though he does enough to create fumbles and INTs.