View Full Version : More Americans STILL support War
Skinzaholic
11-20-2003, 10:47 PM
News you wont hear on MSNBC (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,103666,00.html)
2/3 of Americans STILL support us ousting Saddam.
58% STILL support us staying in Iraq until Democratic government is installed.
Funny... havent heard this reported by the Liberal Media.
NamVet4
11-21-2003, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by Skinzaholic
News you wont hear on MSNBC (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,103666,00.html)
2/3 of Americans STILL support us ousting Saddam.
58% STILL support us staying in Iraq until Democratic government is installed.
Funny... havent heard this reported by the Liberal Media.
I wonder how many support the american serviceman?
And if they do, what are they willing to do ?
~sigh~
:(
Spence
11-21-2003, 07:54 AM
Skinz, that's a FOX News poll. Of course you won't hear MSNBC or anyone else trumpeting a FOX poll. Just as you won't hear FOX yakking about a CBS poll. All these media organizations run their own polls. Why would any of them want to pimp someone else's poll?
Skinzaholic
11-21-2003, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by Spence
Skinz, that's a FOX News poll. Of course you won't hear MSNBC or anyone else trumpeting a FOX poll. Just as you won't hear FOX yakking about a CBS poll. All these media organizations run their own polls. Why would any of them want to pimp someone else's poll?
Well now Spence, you are sounding like me. Seems this issue of media bias wasn't even mentioned among the dulldrums of liberal media polls paraded through this place in the last few months.
Cant really ever know what the truth is by listening to the media.
Spence
11-21-2003, 09:38 AM
Well, all I'm saying is that media companies pimp their own stuff and try not to promote their competitors. That's got nothing to do with political bias, just sound business practice. It'd be like Barnes and Noble running ads to tell people about that great sale they are running over at Borders Books.
I think one can learn a lot from the media, but discrimination is the key. For example, I read newspapers and a number of magazines. I pay little attention to television news, though I have it on in my office all day as background noise. People who rely on television for their news learn nothing. Some newspapers are pretty good.
Skinzaholic
11-21-2003, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by Spence
Well, all I'm saying is that media companies pimp their own stuff and try not to promote their competitors. That's got nothing to do with political bias, just sound business practice. It'd be like Barnes and Noble running ads to tell people about that great sale they are running over at Borders Books.
I think one can learn a lot from the media, but discrimination is the key. For example, I read newspapers and a number of magazines. I pay little attention to television news, though I have it on in my office all day as background noise. People who rely on television for their news learn nothing. Some newspapers are pretty good.
Agreed... and well said!
PennSkinsFan
11-26-2003, 08:57 AM
But all in all, Bush is still suffering, he knows it and his advisers know it...
Cook Political Report poll...
"If the election were held today, would you definitely vote to reelect George W. Bush as president, consider voting for someone else, or definitely vote for someone else as president?"
Definetly Bush: 37%
Copnsider Someone else: 25%
Definetly vote for someone else 37%
Any way you look at that, it is horrible for an incumbent. I know that for a fact, I deal with polls every two years for my boss' re-election and if an incumbent is below 50%, the opposite party automatically puts them in a category of "Extremely Vulnerable"
PennSkinsFan
11-26-2003, 08:59 AM
Poll take by CNN, Nationwide sample...
"In general, do you approve or disapprove of current military policy in Iraq?"
Support 50%
Do Not Support 44%
(Those are niot good numbers, politically speaking)
Follow up question:
"In your view, is the war against Iraq worth the toll it has taken in American lives and other kinds of costs, or isn't the war worth these costs?"
Worth It: 44%
Not Worth it 50%
PennSkinsFan
11-26-2003, 09:01 AM
One more poll for you all.....
Ipsos-Public Affairs/Cook Political Report Poll. Nov. 18-20, 2003. N=1,003 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.1.
.
"Generally speaking, would you say things in this country are heading in the right direction, or are they off on the wrong track?"
Right Track: 38%
Wrong Track: 56%
PennSkinsFan
11-26-2003, 09:25 AM
Gallup:
2003 Nov. 14-16
National Adults
Registered Voters
%
%
Certain to vote for Bush
22
24
Probably going to vote for Bush
12
13
Leaning toward voting for Bush
7
7
Unsure
15
13
Leaning toward voting against Bush
4
4
Probably going to vote against Bush
6
6
Certain to vote against Bush
33
33
Other (vol.)
1
*
No opinion
*
*
* Less than 0.5%
Top number represents Adults, bottom number represent Registered Voters
RedskinsDave
11-26-2003, 09:30 AM
Looks pretty even to me.
Spence
11-26-2003, 01:52 PM
On the same day that President Bush told a Las Vegas audience that things were “getting better” for the United States in Iraq, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist hedged that bet after a Memphis speech Tuesday night, responding, “No, it’s as bad as it looks,” when asked if there was “light at the end of the tunnel” in Iraq. Source (http://www.memphisflyer.com/onthefly/onthefly_new.asp?ID=2703)
Someone throw that Republican Senator in prison for treason!
There should be an Iraqui poll on the subject. It is they who are really going through hell. It is they who's countrys economy will never be reestablished. It is they who had to live through the invasion of their soil. It is they who are being robbed of their oil. It is they who are helpless.
RedskinsDave
12-03-2003, 09:23 AM
Of course, how dare the U.S. go and ruin the country club lifestyle the Iraqis were used to before. I heard the streets were paved with gold and people ran around tossing rose petals as they sang beautiful music. It was veritable utopia.
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