Official Game Thread: 'Skins/Giants

[Skinzaholic]

We needed that.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
Wow. He held on.

I thought maybe you were at the Grand Slam today.

[mexskins]

Come on skins!!!

Dont blow it this time!!!

Nice drive

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
Wow. He held on.

Amazing. Some weeks he is on, some he is horrible off. For once, I would love to see a consistent Rod Gardner.

[PennSkinsFan]

No blowing it today. We will win out and finish 8-8. Why? Because we are playing for NOTHING!

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by hail2skins
I thought maybe you were at the Grand Slam today.

Naw, playing Dr. Dad today. Jamir is sick.

[Skinzaholic]

The test is... can we keep this lead? We need to learn how to put games away.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Well will our D squander yet another lead?Or will they bring it?

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
Naw, playing Dr. Dad today. Jamir is sick.

Sorry to hear that. GET WELL Jamir.

[frankez99]

At this rate....hasselbeck is going to get himself noticed around the league....

[hail2skins]

We need to keep attacking them. Don't sit on this lead.

[hail2skins]

He has a 126 rating right now for this game.

[hail2skins]

Lavar is in the game. Seems okay.

[hail2skins]

Moss is kicking butt today in Minn.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Just said on the radio that they are x-raying trungs foot and he wont return.

[Skinzaholic]

Originally posted by hail2skins
Lavar is in the game. Seems okay.


That is good to hear.

[rskinsfan10]

That hurts

[Yudolindo]

Damn it Bruce! Get there, and get off our team!

[IowaSkinsFan]

Well, I guess Betts will gets some carries now, eh?

[hail2skins]

Collins is hurt. Bruce got to him but late. Fell on his legg I believe.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Collins hurt?Whos theyre backup?

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by Yudolindo
Damn it Bruce! Get there, and get off our team!

:lol1: :lol1:

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by NCskinsfanatic
Collins hurt?Whos theyre backup?

Don't know.

[rskinsfan10]

Jesse Palmer

[IowaSkinsFan]

I think Hasselbeck has sewn up the backup job for next year, if someone else doesn't sign him first.

[mexskins]

A guy named Palmer

[hail2skins]

Jessie Palmer.

[rskinsfan10]

On a side note, LaVar took Collins out last night when I played the Giants on ESPN Football.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Anyone know if Hasselbeck would be unrestricted or exclusive rights free agent this offseason?

[hail2skins]

He played for Spurrier.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
On a side note, LaVar took Collins out last night when I played the Giants on ESPN Football.


Good Karma.:D

[IowaSkinsFan]

What is Collins injury?

[NCskinsfanatic]

trungs not returning and theyre still not playing Betts .morton is getting the nod thus far it seems.What do you guys think of Betts?i think his been injured most of the year(including pre-season)but I havent seen wheres hes played any better than trung or morton or rock.infact they have all been mediocre.We wont be real good till we draft or acquire a legit every down back.

[hail2skins]

You see Bruce try to get another 1/2 sack by falling near the play. LOL.

[mexskins]

Hey, good news!!!

This guy played for Spurrier!!!

(Sarcastic)

[Skinzaholic]

We will figure out a way to sign Hasselbeck.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Too bad Bruce couldn't have got that sack, then we could bench him.

[PennSkinsFan]

Come on Morton, what the hell are you doing????

[hail2skins]

He better not had picked up that ball.

[Skinzaholic]

Good start for new NY QB!

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by hail2skins
You see Bruce try to get another 1/2 sack by falling near the play. LOL.

:D

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
Come on Morton, what the hell are you doing????

After it bounced and he had a bad angle, leave it alone IMO.

[PennSkinsFan]

Hasselbeck is signed through 2004 folks

[hail2skins]

This would be a perfect opportunity for a nice long drive here. Pound the ball at the giants. Score a TD

[IowaSkinsFan]

On a side note, how sad is Rob Johnson to not have been able to pick up the offense in 5 months, compared to Hasselbeck picking it up in 4 weeks?

[Skinzaholic]

Looks like Dallas is falling apart against the Eagles.

[NCskinsfanatic]

I repeat we have no rb.

[rskinsfan10]

Betts was a wasted pick.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
Hasselbeck is signed through 2004 folks
Seriously?

That is the best news of this season!

[PennSkinsFan]

Hasselbeck will be a restricted free agent in 2005

[mexskins]

we need a feature back really bad!!!!

[Skinzaholic]

Rock seeing some action now.

[RedskinsDave]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
Betts was a wasted pick.

I hope you're talking about a fantasy team.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Originally posted by robert
On a side note, how sad is Rob Johnson to not have been able to pick up the offense in 5 months, compared to Hasselbeck picking it up in 4 weeks? Johnson is a less talented version of Jeff George IMO.

[hail2skins]

He just makes plays. COLES. Yeah baby.

[Skinzaholic]

I wonder if SS doesnt like Betts... seems he just doesnt want to use him much at all.

[IowaSkinsFan]

The fact that they haven't been giving Betts any PT must mean they like Trung at RB, and therefore have no intentions of going RB in the draft?

[RayPrower]

Hahaha, did you see the replay of that Quincy Carter saftey at Dallas? hilarious.

[hail2skins]

PHi 19
Dal 10

[Skinzaholic]

But even with Trung out they go to Rock and avoid Betts.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by RedskinsDave
I hope you're talking about a fantasy team.

No I'm not. I'm talking about the 2002 NFL Draft 2nd Rd by the Washington Redskins.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Rock ahead of a healthy Betts? He must really be in the doghouse.

[Skinzaholic]

Aikman just called the Eagles game in DC a "tough game on the road". Not sure what he has been smoking.

[IowaSkinsFan]

This is the sort of drive that gets the Skins beat. This is where they have the opportunity to take control of the game and instead they leave it in limbo.

[Yudolindo]

Draw on 3rd and 13? To early to get conservative.

[IowaSkinsFan]

28 yard punt? WTF?

[hail2skins]

So we drafted Betts in the 2nd round and we won't give him a chance. That's sad. If he's not here next season, that's another wasted draft pick.

[hail2skins]

Spurrier is trying to sit on this lead. I don't like it at all.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Barker is making his late season push to be replaced as the punter!

[Skinzaholic]

Barker is sucking it up today.

[¤Smooooot¤]

barker sucks

[NCskinsfanatic]

Originally posted by robert
The fact that they haven't been giving Betts any PT must mean they like Trung at RB, and therefore have no intentions of going RB in the draft? I think the reason theyve played Trung is b/c unfortunately he is a better back than Betts.And that doesnt mean that I think he is really the answer either.Betts as,redskinsfan put it,has been a wasted pick thus far.I think Betts is another skip hicks.Doesnt know exactly when or where to hit the holes but has enough talent to tease you.I still say we will draft a running back,unless theres someone like a fred taylor or duece staley in FA.This would be possible if we trade Champ or if we get a DE and DT of starting quality in FA.

[Yudolindo]

I think the need for an all-in-one back is being made abundantly clear. Lucky for us, their are quite a few in this year's draft. It is indeed sad that they are not giving Betts a chance, but perhaps they know something we don't.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I don't know what Betts has done to deserve the shaft like this. He's the most complete back on the team. He should be getting some carries.

[¤Smooooot¤]

Ify should have had that

[hail2skins]

Gotta pull those in

[rskinsfan10]

Poor Bruce

[¤Smooooot¤]

betts is our best rb. He should be in there

[NCskinsfanatic]

BS missed his sack LOL.Whine about that.

[Yudolindo]

Give Bruce the sack!!

[hail2skins]

Bruce missed again. He's pissed. It happens to him all the time. He takes himself out of the play. bAd angle

[PennSkinsFan]

Bruce is ridiculous. It's like Dammit, why didn't i get that. Relax, and maybe you will. Be happy for others Bruce

[IowaSkinsFan]

Armstead is playing possessed today.

[RedskinsDave]

Did you see that?!! Bruce was upset after the sack cause someone else got it. Not selfish, sure you're not.

[¤Smooooot¤]

bruce can change direction...cant tackle.....cant do anything. I cant wait till he gets the record and then just sits on the bench.

[rskinsfan10]

This is the type of pressure that we should have gotten against their anemic o-line during Week 3.

[Yudolindo]

Remember his proformance today when others call for his head to free up cap space.

Edit : Armsted, not Smith

[IowaSkinsFan]

Back to the Betts thing. I still think he can be a feature back in this offense. He has good hands and is by far the best blocker of the group. I think SS, et al, are making a mistake by not putting him in there.

[hail2skins]

Looks like LSU is in Sugar Bowl. Sorry for offtopic.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by robert
Back to the Betts thing. I still think he can be a feature back in this offense. He has good hands and is by far the best blocker of the group. I think SS, et al, are making a mistake by not putting him in there.

I agree

[NCskinsfanatic]

Side not sonny and the guys just reported that USC#1,LSU#2,OU#3.But the computers have LSU and OU playing for the championship.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I'm not sure who wants Bruce to get the record worse, him or us.

[IowaSkinsFan]

But for different reasons!

[hail2skins]

The Rock is not hitting the hole hard today.

[hail2skins]

Send PJ long.

[rskinsfan10]

I really don't understand why you guys seem to think that Bruce will sit after he gets the record.

[Skinzaholic]

Originally posted by NCskinsfanatic
Side not sonny and the guys just reported that USC#1,LSU#2,OU#3.But the computers have LSU and OU playing for the championship.


More arguments against the BCS system.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by NCskinsfanatic
Side not sonny and the guys just reported that USC#1,LSU#2,OU#3.But the computers have LSU and OU playing for the championship.

This season is the worse thing that could have happened to the BCS, it's there worst nightmare come true.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by Skinzaholic
More arguments against the BCS system.

So so true

[NCskinsfanatic]

Originally posted by hail2skins
The Rock is not hitting the hole hard today. And Betts hasnt either with what few opportunities he's been given this season.

[hail2skins]

End of the 3rd quarter folks.

[IowaSkinsFan]

If I am Ladell Betts, I have to be wondering, WTH is going on. Trung gets injured, and the punt returner and backup fullback are getting carries ahead of me.

[rskinsfan10]

I will say it again. We should have cut Betts and not Watson.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by NCskinsfanatic
And Betts hasnt either with what few opportunities he's been given this season.

I don't think he's been given the opportunity after his injury like Trung was but I'm not going to get into that now. I'm concentrating on the game and us hopefully winning today.

[Skinzaholic]

Im sick of seeig us waste these picks though.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Eagles pulling away from Dallas.

[RedskinsDave]

4th quarter, put your seatbelts on.

[Skinzaholic]

Atleast this game could take us out of NFC East cellar.

[Gibbs]

he's at 80%

[RayPrower]

Fingers crossed. This is the quarter where the Skins give up their games, Maybe they can hold on this time.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Betts has had a hairline fracture in his forearm for half the season before that he couldnt go in training camp.trung has been banged up and come back early from injury and played through the pain.Betts has been given a few shots this season and has shown no better than trung with less ability to break a big run.Thats why every back on the roster is playing ahead of him.

[Skinzaholic]

Playcalling

Run - 36 att
Pass - 12 att

Due to Ramsey being out? SS doesnt trust Timmy?

[Yudolindo]

Is Corry Dilion (sp?) hurt?

[IowaSkinsFan]

Well, I feel a responsibility to stick up for Betts, him being from Iowa and all, so I will.

His limited opportunities this year are by no means proof that he cannot carry the ball for the Redskins next year.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by NCskinsfanatic
Betts has had a hairline fracture in his forearm for half the season before that he couldnt go in training camp.trung has been banged up and come back early from injury and played through the pain.Betts has been given a few shots this season and has shown no better than trung with less ability to break a big run.Thats why every back on the roster is playing ahead of him.

Agreed

[hail2skins]

36 rushes, 16 pass. Who would have thunk it from SS.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by Skinzaholic
Playcalling

Run - 36 att
Pass - 12 att

Due to Ramsey being out? SS doesnt trust Timmy?

I think the strong winds are playing a factor in the play calling.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by Skinzaholic
Playcalling

Run - 36 att
Pass - 12 att

Due to Ramsey being out? SS doesnt trust Timmy?

You beat me to it.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by Skinzaholic
Playcalling

Run - 36 att
Pass - 12 att

Due to Ramsey being out? SS doesnt trust Timmy?

Naw, he just doesn't want to see Hamdan play.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
I think the strong winds are playing a factor in the play calling.

Not a good day for pitching and catching.

[NCskinsfanatic]

ok guys this win would be good for morale even if it means little else other than we can beat a division opponent.

[hail2skins]

Phi 26
Dal 10

[IowaSkinsFan]

Uh oh, Palmer is getting in a groove.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by hail2skins
Not a good day for pitching and catching.

The wind is holding up everything

[IowaSkinsFan]

You know, for Spurrier's system not being any good, he sure did put quite a few QB's in the NFL.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Our D has to make these plays!that coulda been a pick.

[hail2skins]

How many offsides penalties do we have today? Stay your azz onside darn it.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by NCskinsfanatic
ok guys this win would be good for morale even if it means little else other than we can beat a division opponent.

one as bad as us!

[Yudolindo]

Unfortunatly, I say this every game: this is about the time when we start giving the lead back.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by NCskinsfanatic
Our D has to make these plays!that coulda been a pick.

The offsides would have negated it though. free play for Gints.

[mexskins]

Originally posted by robert
Uh oh, Palmer is getting in a groove.


Remember that we always make no name Qb´s in to Pro Bowlers against us.

[NCskinsfanatic]

True

[IowaSkinsFan]

its the 4th quarter, about time to give up a score.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by robert
You know, for Spurrier's system not being any good, he sure did put quite a few QB's in the NFL.

I wouldn't credit him for that. He just was able to land top recruits.

[hail2skins]

Wow, no whistle on that.

[Yudolindo]

So much for Palmer's groove.

[NCskinsfanatic]

How many sacks do we have this has to be a season record!FUMBLE our ball!Now thats what im talking about make some friggin plays!way to go D!

[IowaSkinsFan]

lb's playing good today!

[NCskinsfanatic]

We dont need to give armstead the boot at seasons end IMO.

[IowaSkinsFan]

go for the jugular, man!

[NCskinsfanatic]

The wind got it!

[mexskins]

Good call OBC!!!

[hail2skins]

That was a good call. I liked it. Take a shot every now and then.

[¤Smooooot¤]

Cmon coles

[mexskins]

damn it TIM. He was open!!!

[NCskinsfanatic]

3rd and 4 overthrown again!This FG is big!

[hail2skins]

SKins 20
Gints 7

[Yudolindo]

Slid it through.

[mexskins]

FG Good!!!

[NCskinsfanatic]

Good!Theres the Hall I love!

[IowaSkinsFan]

td would have been nice!

[RedskinsDave]

I love those Microsoft commercials.

[IowaSkinsFan]

the gints need the butterfly on the o line!

[Yudolindo]

What is with all the REM today?

[NCskinsfanatic]

Eagles just picked Quincy with 4;12 left and already lead 29-10.

[IowaSkinsFan]

are we actually seeing a game we control from start to finish?

[hail2skins]

The defense needs to make a play here.

[mexskins]

Another close game is coming!!!

[NCskinsfanatic]

bruce close but no cigar!

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by Yudolindo
What is with all the REM today?

rapid eye movement?

[hail2skins]

Looks like we're playing zone defense.

[hail2skins]

Bruce gets sack.

[rskinsfan10]

BRUCE!!!!

[RedskinsDave]

There, now go away.

[mexskins]

Bruce Smith!!!

[Yudolindo]

HE GOT IT!!!

[IowaSkinsFan]

2 td's still beat us!

[NCskinsfanatic]

BS got his friggin record let the retirement tour begin!

[NCskinsfanatic]

Bowen should have gotten it.4th down!

[CarMike]

Why in the hell do quit bringing pressure when we get a lead in the 4th quarter? I'll never understand it!

Figures, half way thru this post, Bruce gets his record....LOL

[RedskinsDave]

Are you kidding me?

[hail2skins]

Champ gets beat for 1st.

[mexskins]

4th and 10.

Unbelievable

[NCskinsfanatic]

Beat champ on 4th and 10.Hello!

[Yudolindo]

Palmer must feel like Ramsey.

[IowaSkinsFan]

6 sacks today!

[hail2skins]

4th down for Giants again. What happens this time. Misdirection.

[RedskinsDave]

Boo yah

[rskinsfan10]

Our D-line is the best in the league.....

[hail2skins]

Good stop. The gints should not touch the ball again.

[mexskins]

almost the ball game!!

[Yudolindo]

So, uh, is our D-line working, or are the Giants making us look good?

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
Our D-line is the best in the league.....

:lol1: :lol1:

[NCskinsfanatic]

Originally posted by robert
6 sacks today! Has to be a 1 game record for the season

[IowaSkinsFan]

champ's the best, guys!

[RedskinsDave]

TICK, tick tick tick

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by Yudolindo
So, uh, is our D-line working, or are the Giants making us look good?

Their offensive line is in shambles.

[CarMike]

Originally posted by Yudolindo
Palmer must feel like Ramsey.

:D :D :D

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by hail2skins
Good stop. The gints should not touch the ball again.

Over 5mins left in the game. You can't be serious, can you?

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by NCskinsfanatic
Has to be a 1 game record for the season

More like a 3-4 game record.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Watching the Giant's O line reminds me, I need to buy a sieve today.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Cartright is averaging 1 ypc today.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
Over 5mins left in the game. You can't be serious, can you?

If we had a good running game. Sure, we should be able to make 1st downs and move the ball down field.

[rskinsfan10]

Cut Trung and keep Morton.

[hail2skins]

Morton, great run.

[NCskinsfanatic]

TheGiants give me hope.Bam that was big to Morton!

[mexskins]

The G-men suck!!!!

[IowaSkinsFan]

So much for tick, tick, tick, tick. 2 plays and 3 yards. Looks like the Gints will get the ball back.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Now that was Redskin-esque. Give up 21 yards on 3rd and long.

[hail2skins]

That's right. Keep the chains moving and keep the clock moving.

[IowaSkinsFan]

140 yards rushing so far today.

[RedskinsDave]

That should be it.

[hail2skins]

2 minute warning. GAme not over yet. :D

[IowaSkinsFan]

Well, now Cartright is not even averaging 1 ypc. 10 carries, 9 yards.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
Cut Trung and keep Morton.

The Trung fellows will get you for that. :D

I agree.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Hey have you guys thught that maybe theyre playing or were playing Trung to see if he makes the team next year?I mean im not sold on Betts.But maybe hes still not healthy and they know he is better suited as an everydown back.so they are playing Morton and Trung to see who the speed back is.Just trying to look at it from both sides.however I still say no matter who stays or goes we need to find a special back to take the heat off Ramsey.Thats SS and the FO's homework assignment from me this offseason.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I guess we will be getting those email newsletters tomorrow for the Bruce Smith commemorative jerseys.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by NCskinsfanatic
Hey have you guys thught that maybe theyre playing or were playing Trung to see if he makes the team next year?I mean im not sold on Betts.But maybe hes still not healthy and they know he is better suited as an everydown back.so they are playing Morton and Trung to see who the speed back is.Just trying to look at it from both sides.however I still say no matter who stays or goes we need to find a special back to take the heat off Ramsey.Thats SS and the FO's homework assignment from me this offseason.

I personally am tired of seeing the D line neglected. It must be addressed.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by robert
I guess we will be getting those email newsletters tomorrow for the Bruce Smith commemorative jerseys.

Yes

[IowaSkinsFan]

God bless the G men.

[hail2skins]

That's the way to do it guys.

[rskinsfan10]

I be damned Mike. Looks like you called it.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Rock is alternating between positive plays and negative plays.

[hail2skins]

1st division victory of the season. Spurrier's 2nd.

[IowaSkinsFan]

There's something you don't see every Sunday. A Redskin Qb taking a knee.

[frankez99]

hail yeah....no longer cellar dwellers....and it is a NFC East victory! hail to the redskins....

[RedskinsDave]

Bruce just called them M-er F-ers on live TV. That's funny.

[rskinsfan10]

Rene Knott looks like an Eskimo.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
I be damned Mike. Looks like you called it.

lucky guess. but any good team should be capable of doing it.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by RedskinsDave
Bruce just called them M-er F-ers on live TV. That's funny.

I would have said worse if they had thrown that cold water on me.

[NCskinsfanatic]

It still can be Robert.With a Champ trade(I want him to stay but if he doesnt want to be here....),Fa acquisition at DE and DTand solid not spectaculer CB,resign Russell(cheap),keep Upshaw,Zellner and draft only D-line,rb and O-line/TE.Also resign hasselbeck.We could be much better with any combination of that scenario.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Well were 5-8.On the last"predict our finish thread" i said we would be at 6-10.Thats still very possible although 7-9 not out of the question.Dont think we will take philly,Dallas very possible in my mind,Chicago could go either way.Hope we dont play our way out of a good draft choice when it wont matter to much other than for pride.

[hail2skins]

This win deserves a celebratory cigar.

[RayPrower]

Congrats guys, good game.

[hail2skins]

Get that Bronco stuff out here, LOL.

[kempcolts]

Well, lets' not stop here..........................GO SKINS