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guinness4health
12-23-2003, 03:43 AM
god i hope we can convince so team to give up a high round draft pick for rod maybe a 2nd so we can just replace him with McCants who will be a far cheaper option while maintaining the same level of play

Redskinmayhem
12-23-2003, 09:55 AM
Rod sucks. at this point he's a better QB than a reciever. another sunday of dropped passes, half efforts and bad route running. Well, at least he didn't jump off sides or clip anyone last sunday. I'm really irritated with him as you can tell. It especially hurts that he was a firtst round pick. Damn you Marty!!!!

RichardBradley
12-23-2003, 10:24 AM
It dosen't seem like he cares very much

skins74
12-23-2003, 12:17 PM
He is a better Qb, I think he is the next Vick.

rskinsfan10
12-26-2003, 05:28 PM
I'd take a 3rd for him personally.

Semiskin
12-26-2003, 05:44 PM
Michael Westbrook reincarnated.

CarMike
12-26-2003, 06:03 PM
I think Marty would be willing to give up a draft pick for ole Gardner....wishful thinking...

rskinsfan10
12-26-2003, 06:18 PM
Since Butler passed, did Marty assume the GM duties for the Chargers?

CarMike
12-26-2003, 06:26 PM
I don't think so Kenny. Could be wrong though.

¤Smooooot¤
12-26-2003, 09:25 PM
All of you are dumb...thats how i feel after readin this bullsh*t. Hes the next vick???? Hes a better qb???? HE SUCKS???? What the hell is wrong with you people. HES IN HIS 3RD F*CKIN YEAR. A 3RD ROUND PICK? WE GOT HIM WHAT 17TH OVERALL. HE DID GREAT HIS ROOKIE.....OVER 1000 YARDS LAST YEAR AND NOW WE HAVE COLES WE KNEW HIS #S WOULD GO DOWN BUT 3RD ROUND??? Im sorry for this blow up but this season was horrible and all you people wanna do is get rid of a good wr for some shit we will get in the 3rd round. AND SOME OF YOU WANNA GET RID OF SS? IF YOU THINK GETTING RID OF STEVE WILL HELP THIS TEAM YOUR AN IDIOT CUZ ALL IT WILL DO IS SET US BACK ANOTHER 3 YEARS. Im a huge skins fan and i love comin here and talkin to other skins fans because i know im not the only one hurtin. But some of this trash makes me hate the skins for havin dumbass fans...again sorry but i have to get it out. kick me out or whatever i just had so say it.

rhummer37
12-26-2003, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by RichardBradley
It dosen't seem like he cares very much

I agree, and attitude is a reflection of leadership (hmmmm...Mr. Spurrier)

LuvSkins17
12-26-2003, 10:08 PM
Smoooot......... are you ok pal? Is Gardner related to you or something? The dumbest thing in this thread so far is..... your post. Around these parts we always show class and I know that you are better capible of posting with some class. We are all upset about the season and everything but please........... check yourself man...... oh yeah and you didn't "have to" say all of that.

Now,.......... Gardner is not consistant. He is a decent receiver but he isn't consistant. Maybe you are confused because of Gardners little first down cellibration thing but he does drop a lot too. Now that he is consistant in...

I am sure the Vick thing was a joke. But we could run him at QB, Rock at FB and Trung at RB and do options all over the place. :p :p

I like McCants and I think he would have done more with the opportunities that Gardner had "on pass plays". The money we would save would help too.

Keep in mind that a lot of salary cap moves aren't too popular with the fans.

Oh and "Happy Holidays".

rskinsfan10
12-26-2003, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by ¤Smooooot¤
All of you are dumb...thats how i feel after readin this bullsh*t. Hes the next vick???? Hes a better qb???? HE SUCKS???? What the hell is wrong with you people. HES IN HIS 3RD F*CKIN YEAR. A 3RD ROUND PICK? WE GOT HIM WHAT 17TH OVERALL. HE DID GREAT HIS ROOKIE.....OVER 1000 YARDS LAST YEAR AND NOW WE HAVE COLES WE KNEW HIS #S WOULD GO DOWN BUT 3RD ROUND??? Im sorry for this blow up but this season was horrible and all you people wanna do is get rid of a good wr for some shit we will get in the 3rd round. AND SOME OF YOU WANNA GET RID OF SS? IF YOU THINK GETTING RID OF STEVE WILL HELP THIS TEAM YOUR AN IDIOT CUZ ALL IT WILL DO IS SET US BACK ANOTHER 3 YEARS. Im a huge skins fan and i love comin here and talkin to other skins fans because i know im not the only one hurtin. But some of this trash makes me hate the skins for havin dumbass fans...again sorry but i have to get it out. kick me out or whatever i just had so say it.

Strikes 1 and 2.

Thank you Luv for pretty much handling what needed to be said in response to this.

LavarLeap2003
12-26-2003, 10:51 PM
smooooot is a 13 year old kid that doesnt know jack shi*....got alot of nerve to say sh*t, wanna watch how you handle ur self here? Respect others or go to hell.

PennSkinsFan
12-26-2003, 11:24 PM
Gardner is good at times. Gardner sucks at time. It all equals inconsistency. Trade him away.

LavarLeap2003
12-26-2003, 11:26 PM
yea, i say lets go for TO if champ leaves! i mean why not? Hes not bad to the team, i rather would have sapp and TO then D.Russell and Gardner!

BigCountry
12-27-2003, 12:24 AM
Yeah I'd rather have Jamal Lewis and Simeon Rice then Bruce Smith and Trung Canidate.

Redskinmayhem
12-27-2003, 02:35 AM
IMHO, I think we should move Either Jacobs or DMC to #2, trade Rod for a decent pick(aliviating some cap space) get PJ and Cliff Russel more involved in the Offense and If Russel doesn't pan out, give Cloman or Flowers a shot to make the team. Heck maybe even bring back Skaggs. I'm not asking for big time nubers from our #2 WR, but I am going to ask that the #2 NOT make stupid block in the back penalties, jump offsides, and I would like him to catch maybe 75% of the "catchable" balls thrown his way. in 3 seasons Rod Gardener has not accomplished any of these 3 things. I know DMC had a few Boneheaded taunting penalties last year and early this year but he seems to have grown up a bit since then. I think he would make a fin #2 or 3. I'd love to see him and Jacobs battle it out in camp and pre-season for the #2 spot.

BigCountry
12-27-2003, 02:46 PM
Rod Gardner has not accomplished all the things you said but still had a 1000 yard season? There's an interesting accomplishment...

CarMike
12-27-2003, 10:34 PM
Smoooooooot, how did your All-Pro WR [Gardner] do tonight.

He friggen sucks!

Johncee53
12-27-2003, 10:54 PM
I'm glad, as a new member of this site, to see that I'm not the only one that feels this way about Rod "Oh My God They Threw It To Me Again! Is There A New Way I Can Drop It?" Gardner! Can him, and get a GOOD receiver or two in his place. Maybe we can even get some good Tight Ends that can block AND catch passes!

BigCountry
12-28-2003, 04:04 AM
He's still a solid number 2 reciever. Just about 4 guys on 53 man roster play effortless football but guys like Gardner get singled out because we've all seen him play better. He's had one relatively good rookie year, one solid season with a passing game that stunk and one down year. Lay off the guy for goodness sakes.

¤Smooooot¤
12-28-2003, 01:07 PM
My all-pro? I never said he was an all-pro i said you guys should stop talkin about trading him for a 3rd round pick when hes worth more than that. Hes young...give him some time.


Im sorry to anyone i offended in the post i made the other day. I was just in a bad mood. Im a huge skins and wizards fan and wiz just lost and skins just suck and it just all came out. again im sorry.

LuvSkins17
12-28-2003, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by ¤Smooooot¤
Im sorry to anyone i offended in the post i made the other day. I was just in a bad mood. Im a huge skins and wizards fan and wiz just lost and skins just suck and it just all came out. again im sorry.

You are forgiven young grasshopper......... Now carry on.;)

NCskinsfanatic
12-28-2003, 02:14 PM
Rod " hands of stone" Gardener has got to step up his play.We should have made the TO trade IMO.

¤Smooooot¤
12-28-2003, 07:15 PM
Im not young.....

HollywoodKolt
12-28-2003, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by BigCountry
He's still a solid number 2 reciever. Just about 4 guys on 53 man roster play effortless football but guys like Gardner get singled out because we've all seen him play better. He's had one relatively good rookie year, one solid season with a passing game that stunk and one down year. Lay off the guy for goodness sakes.

I agree. He's a solid number two. And By the way I think there's about zero chance of gardener going anywhere.

NamVet4
12-28-2003, 08:06 PM
If we had a true NFL GM, the Gardner situation would be under review right now ! .
In actuallity, there can be a great deal of uncertainty as to Rod's future with the team.....
Old Head Coach, New Head Coach, new Offensive Co-ordinator...?????
:smash:

LadyNRedskinsfan
12-28-2003, 08:08 PM
he should have had a much, much better year than he had, with coles taking much of the covergae with him....he doesnt show up in the big games and needs maybe one more year to get his s**t straight......BUT if we can get good value for him, bye bye rod.......i say we go get dennis northcutt as a #3 and bump mccants up.....

BigCountry
12-29-2003, 02:52 AM
Gardner took up as much covarege as Coles because we had no running game. Teams could essentially 2 guys on ezch and not miss a beat cause they knew we were gonna pass. It's not as simple as Coles gets all the attention, Gardner should have a big year.