View Full Version : Wilbon votes for Cowher
rskinsfan10
12-28-2003, 12:28 PM
If Spurrier leaves and Rooney fires Cowher (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35444-2003Dec27.html)
RedskinsDave
12-28-2003, 12:34 PM
I'm shocked for two reasons. One, I would expect Wilbon to demand a black coach and two, Dennis Green would be better anyways.
Spence
12-28-2003, 12:36 PM
Wilbon isn't a racialist. He understands the obvious truth that black coaches have not gotten a fair shake in the NFL [or college], but he wouldn't advise a team to hire one because his own skin is black. Cowher is Wilbon's kind of guy: angry, Midwestern grabowski who likes defense and hurting people.
RichardBradley
12-28-2003, 12:36 PM
Wilbon is a moron...... But I would perfer Art Shell
rskinsfan10
12-28-2003, 12:37 PM
Why is Wilbon a moron?
RichardBradley
12-28-2003, 12:43 PM
Wilbon is a moron because he dosen't understand the game of football. He is to worried about looking at the cheerleaders.
RedskinsDave
12-28-2003, 12:43 PM
Tom, I disagree about Wilbon but if all things are equal,Snyder should hire a black coach. It will all be for naught if Vinny and Danny are our GM team.
rskinsfan10
12-28-2003, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by RichardBradley
Wilbon is a moron because he dosen't understand the game of football. He is to worried about looking at the cheerleaders.
Dude, what in the world are you talking about?
Spence
12-28-2003, 12:46 PM
I don't agree. I like Wilbon a lot. He's easily the best sports columnist in DC. Boswell is better for baseball or golf, but the best overall columnist and the only one who can write authoritatively about everything from tennis to hockey is Michael Wilbon. Sometimes his Chicago bias is annoying, but he's a good columnist and the only must-read in town. His column in today's paper was great. Coming on the heels of Boswell's column yesterday it appears The Washington Post is turning on Spurrier. The Ol' Ballcoach has usually enjoyed good relations with the media. Things are getting darker for Spurrier.
RichardBradley
12-28-2003, 12:50 PM
I'm not going to argue with you I just don't agree with him... Why in the world would you want to hire Cower? What has he ever won? No superbowl that is for sure and Pittsburg had alot more talent that we have so what could he do with this group?
NCskinsfanatic
12-28-2003, 12:53 PM
I like wilbon as well and I think we should hire a coach that can turn this team into a playoff contender next year,regardless of his ethnic background.We have the talent here,even Tuna says we are the most talented team in the nfc east.I prefer Cowher to Green as well.Denny is a good coach but he isnt as fiery as Cowher,he couldnt solve the Randy slacking off problems,infact he barely acknowleded it.And his teams always choked.Whether they were 15-1division winners with home field advantage or a wild card team.I just dont think he can do what Tuna has done or Marvin or any of those harder nosed coaches.
Spence
12-28-2003, 12:54 PM
Cowher's been a good coach at Pittsburgh. When you consider how much talent he has lost over the years due to Pittsburgh's disinclination to pay for free agents, it's remarkable that Cowher kept the Steelers near the top of the league for so many years. He's a tough guy and a disciplinarian and that's exactly what the Redskins need. He'd be a huge upgrade from Spurrier and there is NO FREAKING WAY that Pittsburgh has more talent than Washington does. That's absurd.
If we're going to reject every single coach that has never won a Super Bowl then the Redskins might not be able to hire a head coach next year.
RedskinsDave
12-28-2003, 12:54 PM
As far as football is concerned, Wilbon is the most qualified columnist in town. Well, except when the Bears are concerned. Years ago Tony K always called him Mike "that toddlin town" Wilbon.
Spurrier is getting raked because it is so obvious he quit. For that kind of money, you can't quit during the season.
NCskinsfanatic
12-28-2003, 12:55 PM
I also agree the steelers do not have the talent we do.Not even close.
rskinsfan10
12-28-2003, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by RichardBradley
I'm not going to argue with you I just don't agree with him... Why in the world would you want to hire Cower? What has he ever won? No superbowl that is for sure and Pittsburg had alot more talent that we have so what could he do with this group?
Who asked you to argue? You referred to the man as a moron and accused him of not knowing anything about football. Most people when making such charges have reasons and or facts to support such statements.
Cowher sure as hell has won more then any coach we've had around here over the last 10 years.
So we should only hire a coach that has won a SB? We might as well stick with Spurrier, because that list of SB winners is nonexistent.
RichardBradley
12-28-2003, 12:58 PM
I meant the Steelers team that went to the Superbowl.
Redskinmayhem
12-28-2003, 12:58 PM
Wilbon is just like "Comic book Guy" from the Simpsons. But hey, I like the guy.
Spence
12-28-2003, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by RichardBradley
I meant the Steelers team that went to the Superbowl. Well, he got that team to the Super Bowl and would have won it save for a bad Neil O'Donnel interception. I'll say this for Cowher's teams: They never underachieve.
rskinsfan10
12-28-2003, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by RedskinsDave
As far as football is concerned, Wilbon is the most qualified columnist in town. Well, except when the Bears are concerned. Years ago Tony K always called him Mike "that toddlin town" Wilbon.
Spurrier is getting raked because it is so obvious he quit. For that kind of money, you can't quit during the season.
I agree with you there as far as his Chi-Town bias, but to his credit he doesn't try to hide it. I don't know if that's good or bad.
I have to disagree with you as far as the black coach reference from earlier though. I think that the only time he makes a fuss about that is when a black coach is passed over for a white coach with less credentials or a retread that hasn't ever achieved anything while in the NFL.
RichardBradley
12-28-2003, 01:04 PM
Well it appears that we are stuck with Spurrier anyway.
Spence
12-28-2003, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by rskinsfan10
I have to disagree with you as far as the black coach reference from earlier though. I think that the only time he makes a fuss about that is when a black coach is passed over for a white coach with less credentials or a retread that hasn't ever achieved anything while in the NFL. That's right. Things like that drive Michael Wilbon nuts and I don't blame him. They drive me nuts, too, and I'm whiter than Casper the Friendly Ghost. Color shouldn't have anything to do with it. Either you believe in justice and fair play or you don't. Wilbon wants black coaches to be judged by the same standards white coaches are. Seems fair to me.
Spence
12-28-2003, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by RichardBradley
Well it appears that we are stuck with Spurrier anyway. Don't despair yet, RB. I think there's hope.
rskinsfan10
12-28-2003, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by Spence
Well, he got that team to the Super Bowl and would have won it save for a bad Neil O'Donnel interception. I'll say this for Cowher's teams: They never underachieve.
Wasn't that interceptions? One surely sticks out, but I thought he threw another one that was notch down from the one where the DB just stood there for about 5 minutes waiting for the ball to get there.
Spence
12-28-2003, 01:10 PM
Yeah, he threw more than one, but it was that awful pick that Larry Brown brought back for a TD that changed the game. Until then it looked like another Steelers Super Bowl victory over the Cowboys. That one play changed the game. Broke my heart, too.
rskinsfan10
12-28-2003, 01:15 PM
Has anyone ever benefited more from one game? Brown was named SB MVP and signed a big money deal with the Raiders the following season, to never be heard from again.
RichardBradley
12-28-2003, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by rskinsfan10
Has anyone ever benefitted more from one game? Brown was named SB MVP and signed a big money deal with the Raiders the following season, to never be heard from again.
He even got on a few television shows after that game.
NCskinsfanatic
12-28-2003, 01:17 PM
Timmy smith made a name for himself on one game in 87?I dont think he got paid but he certainley made a name for himself LOL.
RedskinsDave
12-28-2003, 01:17 PM
There were two picks to Brown for TD's I believe. Word after the fact was it was the receiver's fault on both of them.
Spence
12-28-2003, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by rskinsfan10
Has anyone ever benefited more from one game? Brown was named SB MVP and signed a big money deal with the Raiders the following season, to never be heard from again. That seems to happen in the Super Bowl. Lots of people don't recall that the MVP of the Green Bay Packers victory was not Brett Favre, but Desmond Howard.
Semiskin
12-28-2003, 01:50 PM
I think Cowher would be a great coach wherever he goes. There is a reason why he is the longest tenured coach in the league. One bad season out of 9-10 years, which is why I don't see the Rooney's letting him go.
Second, say what you want about Wilbon but he is the only writer in both DC papers who writes objectively i.e. without a Redskins bias. He doesn't sugarcoat it like the other writers do. Yeah, he may have a bias for Chicago Sports teams and black candidates getting jobs, but can you blame him, he's black and he's from Chicago.
LadyNRedskinsfan
12-28-2003, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by NCskinsfanatic
.We have the talent here,even Tuna says we are the most talented team in the nfc east.I prefer Cowher to Green as well.
did pacells really say that? and if so when?
as for a future coach, we need someone who is a fair, yet a disciplinarian.....whoever that may be.
hail2skins
12-28-2003, 07:42 PM
It was in an article where they said Parcells said that.
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