TARGET STORES....

[CarMike]

I received this email today. And I for one will not visit this chain ever again. I've never bought cloths there but I have puchased several of my PS2 games there.


by Dick Forrey of the Vietnam Veterans Association

Recently we asked the local TARGET store to be a proud sponsor of the
Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall during our spring recognition event.

We received the following reply from the local TARGET management:

"Veterans do not meet our area of giving. We only donate to the arts, social
action groups, gay & lesbian causes, and education."

So I'm thinking, if the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall and veterans in
general do not meet their donation criteria, then something is really wrong
at this TARGET store. We were not asking for thousands of dollars, not
Even hundreds, just a small sponsorship for a memorial remembrance.

As a follow-up, I e-mailed the TARGET U.S. corporate headquarters and their
response was the same. That's their national policy.

Then I looked into the company further. They will not allow the Marines to
collect for 'Toys for Tots' at any of their stores. And during the recent
Iraq deployment, they would not allow families of employees who were called
up for active duty to continue their insurance coverage while they were on
military service. Then as I dig further, TARGET is a French-owned
corporation.

Now, I'm thinking again. If TARGET can not support American Veterans, Then
why should I and my family support their stores by spending our hard Earned
American dollars and to have their profits sent to France. Without the
American Vets, where would France be today?

Feel free to pass this along to whomever you want.

Sincerely,

Dick Forrey

Veterans helping Veterans
Never to be forgotten



Bill Doyle -Father of Joseph
Wtc tower1 101st fl.Cantor
www.joeydoyle.com

[Keino]

There is a reason we call it Tarjay...to give the french accent.

[RedskinsDave]

Not quite true.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl-target-veterans-v2.htm

[Keino]

Thanks Dave!!!

[lakewinola]

Leave Target alone and boycott Walmart

http://target.com/common/page.jhtml?content=target%5fvet%5fsupport

[BigCountry]

Walmart is a given but I didn't know that about Target...

[lakewinola]

Read the link I placed, the target thing is complete hoax.

Originally posted by BigCountry
Walmart is a given but I didn't know that about Target...

[CarMike]

Originally posted by RedskinsDave
Not quite true.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl-target-veterans-v2.htm

I hate these friggen hoaxes! I always fall for them. Suppose I need to do a little research before I post them....

[lakewinola]

Hey, its hard not to fall for them. Some are really believable.

Originally posted by CarMike
I hate these friggen hoaxes! I always fall for them. Suppose I need to do a little research before I post them....

[dj_stouty]

Click the following link to hear Target's response on the hoax...

http://target.com/common/page.jhtml?content=target%5fvet%5fsupport

[skinsfan44]

The fact remains the same that Target is a "French" company.

That's all I need to hear.

I never have and I never will shop at Target.

Target Sucks!!!!!!!!!!

The French Suck!!!!!!!!

[dukeuch]

Originally posted by skinsfan44
The fact remains the same that Target is a "French" company.

That's all I need to hear.

I never have and I never will shop at Target.

Target Sucks!!!!!!!!!!

The French Suck!!!!!!!!

So if you were to find out that Target was owned by a US company headquaretered in Minneapolis you would lift your ban?

[lakewinola]

Target is not a french company, it has always been a US company, since the early 1900's in fact. On the other hand Walmart abuses senior citizens, practices an unusual ammount of censorship, and hires illegal aliens to keep its costs down. If there is a retailer in this country that is blatently unamerican it is Walmart.

[dukeuch]

By the way, what does the nationality of a company have to do with whether you would buy some of it's products? I assume they are not an arm of the government, just a bunch of businessmen trying to make a buck, right? Certainly many will try to exploit market circumstances, their workers, etc. but what does that have to do with their nationality? Our biggest trade deficit is with China, a country certainly not known for it's democratic principles or enlightened labor practices. What companies would we ban from there? Would American companies taking advantage of subsistence level wages for manufacture of their products be included, or is profiteering off the misery of others an issue only for "foreign" companies?

[dukeuch]

And another thing; concerning the French, how does everyone feel about their participation in hunting down the terrorists responsible for 9/11? Should we ask them to excuse themselves?

[jporterweb]

Originally posted by dukeuch
And another thing; concerning the French, how does everyone feel about their participation in hunting down the terrorists responsible for 9/11? Should we ask them to excuse themselves?

What participation?

[dukeuch]

Originally posted by jporterweb
What participation?

They have troops on the ground in Afgahnistan.

[Odyn]

They are not actually troops. They are chefs trying to start new bistros in the war zone.

[DC_Cowboys]

Without the American Vets, where would France be today?

And without France, would there be any American ?

[Spence]

George Washington's best friend during the Revolutionary War was General Lafayette. There is a good reason the square opposite the White House is named for the great French general. I find this business of French-bashing childish. The United States is a great nation. France is a great nation. We should be proud of our country without taking silly shots at other countries. We should always honor our long and fruitful friendship with France. There is only one great European power that has never gone to war with the United States and that is France.

[dukeuch]

Originally posted by Spence
George Washington's best friend during the Revolutionary War was General Lafayette. There is a good reason the square opposite the White House is named for the great French general. I find this business of French-bashing childish. The United States is a great nation. France is a great nation. We should be proud of our country without taking silly shots at other countries. We should always honor our long and fruitful friendship with France. There is only one great European power that has never gone to war with the United States and that is France.

Totally agree, Spence. France sjhowed that they are willing to help combat terrorism by becoming involved with hunting down terrorists and stabilizing the country in Afghanistan. The difference with Iraq is that they, like me, did not see such an terrorist threat. To the extent that they also had business interests in Iraq which made them loath to become involved, who are we to talk? We supported Saddam's rise and consolidatiion of power when it seemed to behoove us. We've done the same throughout history all over the world.

[Ford]

France is a great nation? The country that demands debts repaid left over from doing business with a tyrannous dictator, and did all they could to try and keep him in power to keep that from being exposed is a great nation? Somehow I disagree.

[Spence]

That's because you're ignorant of the facts, FORD. It is a long-standing precedent that debts run up by one government, no matter how odious, are the responsibility of the successor nation. The U.S. has ritually condemned just about every single government who violated that precept, from the Soviet Union in the early 1990s to Cuba, and half of Latin America. Why should Iraq be any different? If those governments were responsible for paying the U.S. back why shouldn't Iraq be responsible for paying France back? Or does international law only work when the U.S. finds it convenient for it to do so?

And as for keeping a tyrant in power, no one bears more blame for that than the United States during the 1980s. The Reagan admin gave Saddam Hussein tons of classified intelligence, looked the other way when he slaughtered thousands of Iraqi Kurds, arranged for hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars in loans to be given to Saddam Hussein's Iraq and, of course, there's the famous photograph of a smiling Donald Rumsfeld shaking hands with the butcher of Baghdad in 1983 when he came to woo the Iraqi dictator on behalf of the Reagan administration...

Let's see, so if France is not a great nation because it helped Saddam Hussein in the 1980s and it demands repayment of loans run up under a brutal former government, what does that make the United States? According to your standards, which I'm sure you want to be consistent, you'd have to conclude that the United States is not a great nation.

Why do you hate the United States, Ford?

[Ford]

Don't label me ignorant of the facts, the holier than thou 'I know everything' attitude gets old. Administrator or whoever, if talking down to me makes you feel better .. that's pretty sad. The united states used Saddam to aid them in the effort against Iran in the 80s because the enemy of my enemy is my friend. We used them as a tool to help us with a conflict .. what's the problem? We did NOT turn a blind eye to the murder of thousands of kurds, in fact we went into Iraq in Desert Storm and following Saddam's cowardly surrender it was mandated that he could no longer own chemical weapons or WMDs .. that's ignoring .. how?? I think Bush Sr should have taken saddam out then, but that's another debate.

Once clear intelligence about the nature of Saddam started to come out, the United States did not associate with him, or do business with him .. France did. When we associated with him he was a little known, young dictator from a fairly irrelevant country.

What has France done to defend against terrorism? Please ... tell me .. a couple guys in afghanistan making frog legs? Right .. this is a lazy nation who wants to make it a pain in the ass for everyone else to do their job while reaping the benefits of a safer world. The embargo on Cuba would make more sense on France.

[Spence]

FORDl, I'll stop calling you ignorant of the facts when you stop proving me correct. We DID turn a blind eye to the murder of thousands of Kurds during the Halabja massacres. Those happened in 1988-89. We didn't attack Saddam Hussein until 1991, long after the Kurds had been killed. And we didn't attack Hussein because of the Kurds, we attacked Hussein because he invaded and occupied one of our allies, a dictatorship called Kuwait that we defend because of oil.

This rationale for backing Saddam in the 1980s is precisely the thinking that got us into trouble in Iraq. Iran did not invade Iraq, it was the other way 'round. We backed Iraq, the aggressor nation. That put the U.S. squarely against the letter of international law.

Saddam Hussein was never a little-known dictator from an irrelevant country. Iraq has not been irrelevant since the 1960s. The country sits on the second largest amount of proven oil reserves on the planet. It hasn't been considered irrelevant for decades.

This sentence about how the U.S. didn't associate with Saddam once "clear intelligence" about him was collected is bizarre. I don't think you can come up with a single piece of corrroborating evidence to support your assertion. The U.S. has known was Saddam what like since the late 1970s, at the very latest. We didn't break relations with him until 1990 and he did tons of business with the U.S. government and U.S. business all through the 1980s. You don't have to take my word for it, Ford. Look it up. In fact, I urge you not to take my word for it. Please look it up. You need to get some information on this subject pretty quickly.

These attacks on France [frog legs??] are unbelievably childish. You're in the 'freedom fries' range now, Dan.

[dukeuch]

Originally posted by Ford
Once clear intelligence about the nature of Saddam started to come out, the United States did not associate with him, or do business with him .. France did. When we associated with him he was a little known, young dictator from a fairly irrelevant country.


Wrong. We saw Hussien sentence hundreds, if not thousands, of his political enemies to death. He broadcasted mock "trials" which ended with the "guilty" being marched out for execution. The images were broadcast around the world. We knew of his gassing of Kurds. We did not view him as an enemy until he invaded Kuwait. It had nothing to do with 'Once we found out". it was the old stroy of "yeah, he's an SOB and a tyrant, but he's OUR SOB and tyrant".

[lakewinola]

We also looked the other way and continued to support him when gased Iranian troops during that war.

Originally posted by dukeuch
Wrong. We saw Hussien sentence hundreds, if not thousands, of his political enemies to death. He broadcasted mock "trials" which ended with the "guilty" being marched out for execution. The images were broadcast around the world. We knew of his gassing of Kurds. We did not view him as an enemy until he invaded Kuwait. It had nothing to do with 'Once we found out". it was the old stroy of "yeah, he's an SOB and a tyrant, but he's OUR SOB and tyrant".