A Way To Make Corey Dillon Work

[BigCountry]

I would be far from heartbroken if we didn't sign him but he still has 1 or 2 1000 yard seasons in him (I think the age thing is the only problem cause once he gets the ball he'll shut up) so we could do what Seattle did with Shaun Alexander and Ricky Waters and draft someone in the first round next year. That way we can take everyone's hero Sean Taylor and a defensive lineman in the 2nd round, or stock up the defensive line the 1st and 2nd rounds and take a tight end in the 3rd.

Another interesting fact. If Corey Dillon isn't the same age as Priest Holmes, he's no nore then a year older. Also how old Was Riggins when he was superbowl mvp?

[JoeDaSchmoe]

Yes, but Holmes has only been a starting RB for three years. He hasn't taken the pounding.

[jporterweb]

Since when is Sean Taylor everybody's hero? I hope to god we don't waste that pick on him. The kid may be good, but he's not what we have to have. We have two very competent Safeties. We don't need to waste a pick we could use to fill HUGE holes.

[Redskinmayhem]

That sounds interesting. The problem is that we have too many important needs to deal with right now. If we needed a punter a guard and a slot WR then I'd say heck that can all be done in the mid to later rounds of the draft and free up some effort(money, 1st round pick) to pursue a big name FA. The thing is that we need a RB and D-line help. Unfortunately all the gamebreaker caliber guys at those "skill" positions go in the first or second(if lucky) I think the Corey Dillon Scenario might work for one year and maybe we still draft a RB in the third round or something. The other Problem is this still doesn't address the Sean Taylor(best available athlete) or KW(we need a good TE) issue. Wow, Gibbs has alot of thinking to do. Maybe the best thing to do is trade down and pick up harris, Will smith, and Chris perry and just forget about Taylor and Winslow. :confused:

[Spence]

Sean Taylor isn't my hero. Nice player, but I wouldn't take him over someone like Tommie Harris. The difference between Dillon and Holmes is that the latter has not taken nearly the pounding the former has. Dillon has had a lot more carries than Holmes. One reason Marcus Allen played so many years is that Al Davis sat him his last few seasons with the Raiders and he just didn't take a pounding. It allowed him to play longer. Dillon took a big pounding every single year, but this past one.

Still, if I could get Dillon relatively cheaply I'd be very interested. I also think he's got one or two years left.

[MDSkins]

it is insane to talk about getting a running back that will only be good for another "year or two", especially when he is a malcontent. gibbs will not put up with him.

Now how about Ron Dane? Just a thought because I bet that the Giants release him.

[Spence]

Wait a minute. You don't want a running back with seven 1000-yard seasons like Corey Dillon, but you are interested in Ron Dayne, a guy who is so awful a 4-12 team like the Giants put him on the inactive list for every game this year?

[Patrick]

Spence hit it on the head when he refer to getting Dillion "relatively cheaply ". ....... BUT that's the only way.

[SkinsKY]

I don't like Corey Dillon. I think he is not a good teammate, and due to wear and tear, he is not much of a back anymore. If we were to sign Dillon, I don't think he would be very effective over the course of 300+ carries. We would have to be able to mix it up to keep him from breaking down. Taking Harris in the first and then trying to get Chris Perry to split carries wouldn't be a bad idea. I might even find this an acceptable arrangement only if Dillon agrees to have his lips sewn shut and his pads and helmet superglued to him so they don't end up in the stands.

[NYskinsFan]

Read this article for more info on Dillion :


http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/content/sports/bengals/daily/0111beninsider.html

[Spence]

Great article, NYSKINSFAN, thanks for posting it. I'd give Dillon a three year deal for $5 million. That's perfectly reasonable. Short. No big money. No big signing bonus. Runs out about the same time Dillon will be out of gas.

[Redskinfan28]

I agree with you Spence. I think Dillon will end up in Dallas.

[NYskinsFan]

Yes i agree about giving him no more than a 3 year deal worth 5 Mil but you never know if there will a team foolish enough to trade for him before he is released even though his cap # is pretty high he wouldn't cost a team much picks wise (And no i do not want that team to be us to trade for him..lol)

[TexSkin]

You never know when it comes ton Dan...if Gibbs wants him Snyder usually will get him.

[RedskinsDave]

I also think he'll be in Dallas before he comes here.

[Spence]

Originally posted by RedskinsDave
I also think he'll be in Dallas before he comes here. Well, if you're correct let's hope that Parcells is away on vacation when Jerry Jones signs Dillon to a ten year contract with a $25 million signing bonus.

[RedskinsDave]

Maybe we'll get to see Messers Jones and Snyder go checkbook to checkbook after a guy. Record salary will surely be the result. The last time these guys danced, Jerry got Danny to pay a ransom for Deion.

[RichardBradley]

Dillion is a great player and if we could get him cheap then I would be all for it.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

i too would take dillon if he signed for cheap. but ron dayne....HECK NO!

[SkinsKY]

Even if Gibbs wants Dillon, I think he has probably come up with a backup plan in case it is going to cost too much. Again, I don't like Dillon and don't think he'd be here more than a year, but there are circumstances that exist in which I would be okay with him here. Namely that his attitude does a 180.

[Yudolindo]

Originally posted by Mel Kiper
Taylor is to the safety spot at Miami what Ray Lewis was to the middle-linebacker position. He follows in the footsteps of former Miami safeties Bennie Blades, Darryl Williams and Ed Reed (all were first-round picks). I expect Taylor to be even better. In fact, he could be the best safety in the NFL early in his career. Taylor is the prototypical Pro Bowl safety: tremendous speed, a nose for the ball, aggressive, a great tackler and terrific in coverage (team-leading nine interceptions). He has such tremendous instincts and awareness. Worthy of being a top-five pick.

Okay, now Spence, why would we not take this guy, but instead draft Tommie Harris, who is, at best, two years away? How about dealing with the d-line in FA--as the draft is shallow in talent-- and take a once in a decade player with the fifth pick?

[Skinzaholic]

I, for one, am sick of picking up team fodder and then watching them move on the next season. I would rather pick up a RB int he draft and work him into a star with some Gibbs magic.

[BigCountry]

We could do that and let him work behind a guy who's already a star and when Dillon looses, we've got someone groomed behind him. I love Kevin Jones and Steven Jackson as players but nothing is guaranteed with rookies. Of course I wouldn't wanna give Dillon too much money but I also wouldn't mind slightly overspending cause he can still do it and also has great desire.

[Spence]

Originally posted by Yudolindo
Okay, now Spence, why would we not take this guy, but instead draft Tommie Harris, who is, at best, two years away? How about dealing with the d-line in FA--as the draft is shallow in talent-- and take a once in a decade player with the fifth pick? Well, I don't know that Tommie Harris is two years away. All rookies are going to have an adjustment time in the pros, including Taylor. I like a good safety as much as the next guy, but I don't consider it one of our top needs and I don't see how the Redskins can give a huge bonus to Taylor and still keep Champ and Smoot. In fact, if they give a huge bonus to Taylor they might not be able to keep Champ OR Smoot. There is a limit to how much money the team can spend on its secondary, especially if it wants to fill the defensive line with something better than they had this past year.

[Odyn]

I doubt that Gibbs drafts a rookie running back and really relies on him. He hasn't done that his entire career. Gibbs does not want to base his offense on a rookie who probably is not ready for the NFL level of play. I think we will get a fa rb.

[Redskinmayhem]

I think we should get Harris or Wilfork and if possible(with comp picks for champ) both of them. Everyone keeps saying that Harris is 2 years away....Well guess what folks, that's called FUTURE. Something we need to build for here. Every year we fall into the same trap. We want an impact player to take us to the big dance right away. Unfortunately that doesn't happen very often. We need to build for the future and if that future is two or three years away, so be it. Now, don't get me wrong, Taylor and Winslow are amazing athletes and I'd love to see them as redskins but I think we have a few more pressing needs at the moment.

[Yudolindo]

Hey I am keen on the future too, but the problem is that the D-line sucks right now! If the We can’t wait around to see if a hit or miss draft pick develops; Harris and Wilfork both have promise, but we need established players to shore up the line: hell, Harris can't handle college double teams and Wilfork may eat his way out of the pros! So, while we are out getting D-Line help in FA, why not take Taylor with the 5th overall? If not, we should trade down and then take some D-linemen (non are worth #5 money) or Steven Jackson...but I agree with Odyn: I doubt Gibbs entrusts his offense to a rookie.

[SkinsKY]

I hear you Yudo (as we've had a few exchanges over this ;) ), but Taylor may have a hard time handling double routes. Every one has a down side and nobody doubts Taylor's potential and freakish athleticism. The rub comes when those expectations and praises come up at the negotiating table. Taylor will want a very large signing bonus because of his track record. I don't think we can manage that along with Champ and Smoot, which I think are more of a priority (sorry Spence for arguing your point. pleas don't hit me :twak: ). In the end I don't think we're helped as much by drafting Taylor because we'd lose Champ or Smoot and still have a suspect DLine.

[Yudolindo]

Both you and Spence make very good points...perhaps I should reframe my argument as such: trade down from the fifth pick and then draft whomever. I just think it would be wasted on Harris, and any #5 selection commands significant money I assume, so I would hope we would make it worth it. Of course, after FA and the combine, I am sure the whole draft picture may change!

I should add that we should try to avoid counting on rookies to make our offense/defense chug: redundancy and leadership will take us to the playoffs.

[SkinsKY]

Originally posted by Yudolindo
I should add that we should try to avoid counting on rookies to make our offense/defense chug: redundancy and leadership will take us to the playoffs.

I agree with this. My hope is that we will attack the DT problem both with our first pick and through FA. Really, we're mostly on the same page but we've just assessed talent and priorities differently.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

I guess some of it will be riding on how much we can trust Daryl Gardener, since it seems he'll be one of the main DTs we go after in free agency. Perhaps with him and, say, Robaire Smith, we could afford to go Kevin Jones, Kemechi Udeze, and then a DT in the third round who could develop behind two solid vets?

[Green-Is-Good]

WHat about Sam Adams? I heard he may be cut by Buffalo

[Spence]

Adams is worth a look, but if some other team offers him a multi-year contract and a big signing bonus then I'd let him go elsewhere. Adams plays hard when he has to.

[SkinsKY]

Sam Adams: Always a good choice (unless he wants more than two years and a large signing bonus).

[tonedog12345]

Corey Dillon is a Quiter. One game he got beat down so bad that he decided that he didnt want to play anymore. Nice entinsity :(

[BigCountry]

Quiter?! Who were you watching rack up 1000 yard seasons for a team who knew it was going nowhere before the season started. You just can't lable the guy a quiter over 1 season.

[Yudolindo]

I don't think Dillon is a quitter. However, even if we did sign him, I still think it would be smart to draft a back sometime during the first day...Dillon has lots of mileage so who knows how long he can hold up.

[PennSkinsFan]

Dillon was simply unhappy with the franchise he was under contract with. I think a new franchise, new city, new surrounding will do him a world of good.

[SkinsKY]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
Dillon was simply unhappy with the franchise he was under contract with. I think a new franchise, new city, new surrounding will do him a world of good.

I just don't want it to be this franchise, city or surroundings.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by Odyn
I doubt that Gibbs drafts a rookie running back and really relies on him. He hasn't done that his entire career. Gibbs does not want to base his offense on a rookie who probably is not ready for the NFL level of play. I think we will get a fa rb.

Ricky Ervins was a rookie in '91 and received significant playing time. He played a key role in the first win over the Giants that year and earned more and more playing time as the year went on. I think he was the leading rusher in the Super Bowl, if I am not mistaken.

[RedskinRyan]

did harris leave? i havent heard if he has

[tonedog12345]

dillon wont work

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally posted by tonedog12345
dillon wont work

why?

[Redskinfan28]

I think Dillon will fit in nice here.

[Rogers_Redskins]

A 3 year 5 million deal would be good but everyone knows that wouldnt be flamboyant enough for Snyder, he would have to give him a HUGE signing bonus.

[Rileskin]

Long as Dillon gets some blocking he could fill in nicely but I'd try to sign him like The Diamondbacks did Alomar, one year deal, a little bonus, but base that on performence and attitude. The new Skins need to reassemble with character playing a large role. LINE FIRST!!! Riles

[Griffyatl]

Any True Redskins Fan shoud know that Cory Dillion with his attitude is not a Joe Gibbs type player, and he has never been a team player. So why would you want him. I think if we could trade for T.J. Duckett from Atlanta he would fit in very well with Joe Gibbs one back set. Duckett is awesome and Nasty, he was never used right at Atlanta, but Gibbs would use him right, and he wouldn't cost us a first round draft choice. A number round 3 pick at best. The guy is huge, and can run. a punisher. Cory Dillion has to many miles on him, even though he's a hell of a running back, i would pass on him. due to his age and his milage.

[Yudolindo]

T.J. Duckett is not much better in the personality department. If you were on the Bangles, would you really want to be there?

[capitol_cop]

We all know that Dillon is going to have at least one outstanding game at Fed Ex Field next year.... as a member of the Cowboys.

Sorry for the pessimism guys, I'm just used to Cowboys backs running all over us at home. Anyone who plays fantasy football knows that any Cowboys running back versus the Redskins is a lock for big points. I hope the team proves me wrong this year.