draft winslow to blossom under gibbs

[MDSkins]

I'm pretty excited about the prospects of Kellen Winslow Jr. being drafted by the Redskins and being groomed under Joe Gibbs.
Can you imagine the type of routes that Didier used to run, but now you have Winslow running them. Just something to ponder.

[Spence]

I'm too busy pondering Winslow sitting on the bench next to the rest of our offense while the other team dominates the clock by running the ball through our swiss cheese defensive line.

[Patrick]

Hmmmmm ..... the theme of that would be " Saving Private Winslow".......... Gibbs doesn't need that head case on his team. but the fact that he knows his father pretty well might just land him on this team. That would be a shame, but coming back after 11 years off, mistakes will be made AND if it's Gibbs making them, I can live with it.

[CowboyKilla]

Oh that's right, noboby here has ever said anything stupid when they were 20.
5 is still too high with our needs being what they are.

[TexSkin]

Taylor!! :D

[RichardBradley]

I brought this up in the draft form... As far as Winslows comments we need more players on this team that have heart.

[RedskinsDave]

We don't need heart man, we need SOLDIERS!!! Seriously though if they draft a tight end in the first round, I will burn down Redskin Park (or whatever they call it).

[RichardBradley]

Depends on what we do in free agency

[skins74]

What Spence said. We need to fix the D line (meaning we need 2 DE's and 2 DTs). I now have total faith that Gibbs will make the right decisions, no worries mate.

[bosshog001]

D line, big time running back, maybe a LB if they are serious about dumping Trotter and Armstead.

Never had a front line TE in the past, don't need one now (at the 5 pick for sure). Get a couple of big guys who can catch a few.

Maybe move McCants to TE?? Does he have the size?

[Subby]

I have said this before, but I really think it would be a mistake to take a Tight End that high in the draft.

I mean, where were Doc Walker, Clint Dider and Don Warren taken? ;)

Stephen Alexander was taken in the first round and look how well he turned out...

[Spence]

BOSSHOG makes a good point. Gibbs won three Super Bowls with Don Warren. Since when did Kellen Winslow, Jr. become our savior? A nice player, sure, but as important as a dominant defensive lineman?

Someone once asked George Allen what five positions he would fill if he could. His reply: Quarterback and four defensive linemen.

[bosshog001]

TY Spence :-)

May be an opportunity for Chamberlain to show what he's got. He fits the mold and not sure if Spurrier even knew he was on the team.

[capitol_cop]

The NFL draft is oftentimes a crapshoot. Sometimes players work out, sometimes they don't. Winslow is the kind of guy who can step in immediately and dominate, al la Shockey, Heap, and Gonzalez. He has the pedigree, speed, and talent. There is NO QUESTION that he will be an-all pro at the next level. However, looking at the Skins and their needs, I think S. Taylor is a better fit. He will step in and make our d-secondary just as dominant as any in the league (allowing that Champ stays). There aren't any d-lineman coming out this year who can come in immediately and dominate. I also like TE Ben Troupe from Florida. He should be around for the second round and all the Winslow lovers on HR would be equally impressed with this guy.

[Patrick]

Originally posted by bosshog001
TY Spence :-)

May be an opportunity for Chamberlain to show what he's got. He fits the mold and not sure if Spurrier even knew he was on the team.

Ummmm WHO ????? ........................ :p

[TexSkin]

I think Gibbs will take the best avaible player....I do not remember him choosing because of need.

[truant]

i don't want Winslow, but i have faith in Gibbs. Picking Jones, Taylor, Winslow, Harris, trade down... whatever. I have prefrences but i'll let Joe take care of it.

[RedskinRyan]

im more worried about the defense, but there is free agency. when free agency is over, then i'll make it final on who i want the skins to draft. but for now, no winslow, no taylor.

[RichardBradley]

So who exactly is the D-linman who can step in and dominate?

[Redskinfan28]

There isn't one in the draft. I'm all for Winslow.

[Yudolindo]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
So who exactly is the D-linman who can step in and dominate?

There are none that I can see, or at least worthy of a #5 selection. I’m not sure I see Winslow as a Redskin, as I was under the impression that tight ends in his offenses were more blockers than receivers. We could get a blocker for much less than the fifth selection. I could be wrong, and in that case, I would love to have Winslow on our team.

[Subby]

The best thing this team can do is trade down from #5 and stockpile defensive linemen.

To take Winslow and not bolster the line would be to blatantly ignore the teams most pressing need. The defense couldn't pressure the QB. They couldn't stop the run. Imagine how freaking good our secondary would be if the d-line could have gotten some hurries?

Winslow is the kind of "name" player Danny would have been all ga-ga over in the past. Not anymore. Gibbs will show him that one rookie TE does not a defense fix...

[Death_Venom]

Personally the 2 Major issues as far as the Draft are concerned are there:

1-We NEED a RB-one that can be used every down-that much is WAY OBVIOUS.
2-the Defensive Line needs help-or just better coaching.........

As far as the Draft in general is concerned: Players that dont work out are typically products of teams/coaches that are un-interested in developing their rookies and are far more focused on their starters-.........Example: that is why we see a Rookie from 3yrs ago FINALLY becoming a starter-someone took the time to teach him........

[Green-Is-Good]

If they want to draft offense, they should draft a RB. Kevin Jones if he is available. Stephen Jackson if not

[¤Smooooot¤]

We need a TE more than any other team in the NFL....lets stop puttin it off and get this guy.....i think he will end up being the best TE of all time....hes that good.

[Green-Is-Good]

RB is a far more important position

[Spence]

Gibbs signed a five year contract and he says he intends to stay all five years. We should draft someone who will help us during those five years. Draft for five years, not for the first five games.

[¤Smooooot¤]

I think i will be happy with anything other than an O lineman....its a waste of a pick (Samuels). I like Samuels a lot but you can get plenty of good blockers in FA....draft playmakers.....Winslow.

[Odyn]

Whoever is the best available. That's how I remember Gibbs doing it.

[Skinzaholic]

Originally posted by Spence
Gibbs signed a five year contract and he says he intends to stay all five years. We should draft someone who will help us during those five years. Draft for five years, not for the first five games.

I agree... and that is how Gibbs will think as well.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

Draft for five years, not for the first five games.

Especially given Gibbs' original first five games.... ;)

[Emmanouel8]

Last time I checked TE's don't pressure the QB. They don't stop the run. And they sure as hell don't make sacks. Yeah I think I want to draft one of them Winslow boy's so I can watch him collect dust on the sidelines. Whoo hoo we got us the best available dust collector.

For GOD SAKES STOP THE MADNESS WE DON'T NEED A TE AND WE DON'T NEED A SAFETY!! WE NEED a RB AND SOME D-LINEMEN BEFORE ANYTHING.

[kaiser]

No wat in h3ll we draft a TE. The only reason a team'd draft a TE that high is if they didn't have a stud WR and the TE wou;d become the #1 receiver on their team - that ain't the redskins!
Ppl, start thinking! We need pressure on the QB. We need push up the middle. Ergo, we need DL talent! I'm leaning towards Udeze - a monster in the making! I'm not too worried abt the run, since the only reason it was so pathetic is because we didn't go to it consistently. Honestly, wat the f@ck is a safety gonna do when the opposition QB has 7+ seconds to pass??

[JoeDaSchmoe]

Amen, Kaiser, amen.

I like this guy. :cool:

[IowaSkinsFan]

Mike Sellers will be the "H-Back" next season, which stands for "hurt" as he lines up as the lead blocker for our RB next season, whoever that turns out to be.

I also don't think we should give up on Robert Royal. I think he can be a 35-40 catch TE for us.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

Yeah, I don't know what to make of Royal right now. IR two years in a row.... he's not any better than Betts.

[IowaSkinsFan]

In his defense, his first trip to IR was probably premature on SS part. He had a high ankle sprain during TC and they IR'd him. SS probably figured at that point his offense was going to be so great he wouldn't need him. Can't really blame Royal for that.

This years injury, the broken hip, came courtesy of trying to block Simeon Rice. Kind of a freak thing if you ask me.

I like Royal. I think he has good size for a receiving TE. Using Sellers as the blocker makes them a good combo,IMO.

[Patrick]

Originally posted by robert
Mike Sellers will be the "H-Back" next season, which stands for "hurt" as he lines up as the lead blocker for our RB next season, whoever that turns out to be.

I also don't think we should give up on Robert Royal. I think he can be a 35-40 catch TE for us.

That won't work because Gibbs does not really use a H-back.

All this talk about TE is really crazy. Winslow is a solid player (even thought I DON'T like his attitude) but I feel he's somewhat over rated.

As a play maker, Yes he was with Miami. In the nation he wasn't even on the radar screen for TEs. If you want productivity then you should be looking at Mike Peters (Texas Tech), Heath Miller(VA), or Chirs Cooley (Utah St.). .. If you want a strong blocker with decent hands, Jeff Dugan(UMD) is one of the best coming out. ......... BUT if you want a Name who played for a big time school, then I guess Winslow fits the bill.

In my mind, Dugan is just the kind of TE Gibbs will go after. Just my nickel worth.

[Skinsfan1906]

Originally posted by TexSkin
Taylor!! :D

'Nuff said!