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dj_stouty
01-20-2004, 11:39 AM
On paper, he may seem too heavy...but in real life, this dude is simply cut. Check out Greg Jone's pic from the Senior Bowl practices...

http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/runnin2.jpg

This is what the corespondant from NFLDRAFTBLITZ had to say about seeing Greg Jones at the Senor Bowl practice:
Greg Jones - If this guy doesn't pan out as a football player than I think he could become a pro bodybuilder. In my travels in NFL locker rooms I have always maintained that Tony Gonzalez had the best athletic physique I have ever seen. That was put to rest today when I saw Greg Jones take off his pads. It was obvious that this was planned and he wanted to show off but when you are built like that who wouldn't. He is a god damn monster! It is hard to believe that this guy is 250 pounds. I wish they would have body fat measurements at the weigh-in's because he has to be at like 3%. Jones had the best runs of the day, Cedric Cobbs had the most work but Jones had the best runs bar none.

rskinsfan10
01-20-2004, 11:43 AM
I advocated looking at him in the 2nd round in a thread weeks ago, along with someone else. I think that he would surely be the way to go if we look at other positions in the first round. Hopefully his knee is solid.

Ford
01-20-2004, 11:44 AM
He could make an excellent 2nd round pick if he were still available. He'd put Ladell Betts to shame, but then again who wouldn't?

dj_stouty
01-20-2004, 11:46 AM
The point of this post is....

Why take a RB at #5 when guys like Greg Jones could "potentially" be taken early in the 2nd?

Patrick
01-20-2004, 11:57 AM
Looks good BUT there have been a lot of "cut" dudes coming out of college. Can he pound up the middle or cut it to the outside. That remains to be seen! .......... Second round gamble - maybe.

rskinsfan10
01-20-2004, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by dj_stouty
The point of this post is....

Why take a RB at #5 when guys like Greg Jones could "potentially" be taken early in the 2nd?

I agree with you to an extent. The problem is so much can go wrong in waiting and hoping for Jones to still be around when we pick in the 2nd, when we are pretty much guaranteed to be able to pick up a stud in the 1st. I personally wouldn't be surprised to see someone possibly reach for Jones late in the 1st.

dj_stouty
01-20-2004, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by rskinsfan10
I agree with you to an extent. The problem is so much can go wrong in waiting and hoping for Jones to still be around when we pick in the 2nd, when we are pretty much guaranteed to be able to pick up a stud in the 1st. I personally wouldn't be surprised to see someone possibly reach for Jones late in the 1st.

Agreed...Passing up talent and hoping that person is around for your next pick is the biggest challenge to the draft.

A question our FO needs to ask themselves is this:

Will there more RB talent or DE/DT talent potentially availbale to us in the 2nd round? We should be drafting the position who's talent tapers off quickly after the first round. To me...this doesn't look to be a very deep draft in way of DT or DE. At #5, you are guaranteed to get yourself a stud. I think the FO should contemplate what talent will be available in the 2nd before making a decision in the 1st.

Assuming DET, TB and NE all could be a lock for taking first round RBs (Jones? Jackson? Perry?), then that could leave room for people like G. Jones and/or Michael Turner to be available in the 2nd.

People like Marcus Tubbs or Darnell Dockett could potentially be available in the early 2nd round at DT...

DE's that could be available in the early 2nd round are folks like Dave Ball or Marquisse Hill.

Any of the aforementioned names would all be a good choice with our 2nd round pick.

My opinion on this draft changes daily...but I'd love to see the Redskins pick up either Udeze and hope Jones or a DT of value fall to the 2nd round....OR...have the Skins take Sean Taylor and hope a RB or DT/DE fall...

The fact is...SOMEONE will fall to our #2 spot. It happens every year that someone who is a first round lock gets passed over.

No matter what...this will be one hell of a draft to watch!

RichardBradley
01-20-2004, 12:17 PM
Thats how I look when I take off my shirt.....:smash:

JoeDaSchmoe
01-20-2004, 12:38 PM
Trade down. Get Udeze. Aim for Jones in the second round. If not him, maybe that TE out of Florida.

Keino
01-20-2004, 01:57 PM
Joe, so much wisdom from the mouths of babes.........I agree my man. Trade down, get Udeze or a realistic young talent on the D line then look to the RB position. Let someone else gamble on the Kevin Jones' of the world.........

RichardBradley
01-20-2004, 02:47 PM
http://www.angelfire.com/sc3/hiredgun/F31875.jpg


here is another pic of Jones....

dj_stouty
01-20-2004, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by RichardBradley
http://www.angelfire.com/sc3/hiredgun/F31875.jpg


here is another pic of Jones....

Ok...i'm convinced he needs to become a Redskin!

petman88
01-20-2004, 08:34 PM
remember the last guy who had a low perecentage of bdy fat lavar

NCskinsfanatic
01-20-2004, 09:13 PM
I would like to see us trade down from 5 but i doubt we do.It does make sense as JDS said above.We could pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd from a trade down address the D line with the first and rb/te in the second.My concern would be how high we draft in the 2nd.Dont the teams with identical records flip in order of selection from round to round after the 1st?Im sure guys like Jones and Perry wont be around mid to late 2nd round.wouldnt mind picking up that seminole though.Has the size and the running skills of a gibbs back from what I've read though.

JoeDaSchmoe
01-20-2004, 09:32 PM
We've been trying to figure out that whole position switch thing for a while now, I don't think anyone's found information written in stone about it.

And thank you, Keino. I try to be the wisest babe of them all.

LavarLeap2003
01-20-2004, 11:09 PM
jesus christ, thats called HUGE!

bjohns
01-21-2004, 11:23 AM
There is no flip in draft position unless the tiebreaker used was a random coin flip. Strength of schedule has dictated the Redskins position so we will pick 5 throughout the rounds.

Towson Skins
01-21-2004, 12:47 PM
Im worried that NE will take either Perry or Jones in the last 2 picks of the 1st round. We should draft which ever back they dont select.

SkinsKY
01-21-2004, 02:15 PM
I agree Towson. If NE doesn't trade up for Jones or Jackson, I think NE takes G. Jones. I think Perry won't go until mid 2nd. Maybe we could work a deal with NE to flop their second 1st rounder with our 2nd rounder because they'd only drop 5-6 spots and they could pay 2nd round money if their target looks to be available.

truant
01-21-2004, 02:25 PM
Well Greg Jones has been on a lot of radars for months now. Watch him rise up the charts. Coming back after that injury and he still had a great year. Sorry to burst the bubble, but Greg Jones probably won't make it past the mid 20's.

Forgetting about the Cowboys??? They are sitting at a prime position to take him.

Odyn
01-21-2004, 06:34 PM
Nah. Cowbos will draft Steven Jackson. Just watch. He will be incredible with them. Besides, he's a cowboys fan...

Griffyatl
01-21-2004, 08:41 PM
Greg Jones is a very impressive specimen, but early reports indicate he hasn't regain the quickness he had once had before his knee was operated on last year. I would love to get him in round 2 or either Ben Watson, They need to draft high for the DL on round 1.

MySkins11
01-23-2004, 02:51 PM
i personally think Steven Jackson would be the way to use the #5 pick, BUTm if some how the Redskins could get Kellen Winslow, Jr(TE) or Sean Taylor(S) w/the #5pk and grab Greg Jones(RB) or Chris Perry(RB) in the 2nd, the draft would get an A+ grade from me. the Center position and the DL can be addressed in the later rounds and in free agency. (Jevon Kearse would look very promising in a Redskins jersey, taking blockers off of Lavar Arrington.)

JoeDaSchmoe
01-23-2004, 06:01 PM
Hey, welcome to the site, MySkins. I agree that getting Jones in the second round would make this a great draft, although I'd rather trade down and grab a DL (Udeze, or if he's not available, maybe Starks) that pick up Winslow or Taylor.

ArRiNgToN_56
02-15-2004, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by JoeDaSchmoe
Trade down. Get Udeze. Aim for Jones in the second round. If not him, maybe that TE out of Florida.

I agree with the Udeze thing but, not with the Greg Jones thing unless we have two second-rounders is the only way we get him. The first second rounder has to be for the 320 pounder from Clemson look what Ted Washington did for the Pats they went undefeated when he was in the lineup and look what happend to the Bears when he left.

champisachump
02-15-2004, 09:24 PM
it looks like we might strike up a deal with det about champ so:
5th: sean taylor
6th: Kenechi
Trade rod gardner for late first or early second: Get Greg Jones,if he's not there, Troupe or stud DT, or cornerback if everything else fails.(Then, start mccants)
2nd round: DT
3rd round trade for brunnel i guess

RU SM1LN
02-16-2004, 04:29 PM
An article in Sports Illustrated indicated that teams with the same win-loss grouping rotate their order after the first round. So the team that picked earliest (amongst the tied teams) in the previous round moves to the last position of the group while others move up. This means that the Redskins will get the last pick in the second round in relation to all the other teams that they had the same record as at the end of the NFL season (since they get the first pick of all those teams in the first round).

RU SM1LN
02-16-2004, 04:38 PM
The last paragraph at this link explains the bad news about our second round pick. It looks like we will get the 10th pick in the 2nd round (#42 overall).

RU SM1LN
02-16-2004, 04:39 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/football/nfl/12/29/draft.order/index.html

Whoops. Here's the link.

J-Rod
02-17-2004, 01:12 PM
Without an extra pick from a potential Bailey trade, I say we have no chance to draft G. Jones unless we use our #1 and that would be amazingly stupid.
There are waaaay too many teams looking for a RB (especially with NE being used to using a two down back and a 3rd down back).
It's too bad though...I'm reminded of the way people looked at Jamaal Lewis when he came out...bad knee, suspect speed, questionable hands, but a known bruiser...and now that is history

green4president
02-18-2004, 01:32 AM
The Skins first 2nd round pick will be the 37th if they trade Bailey to Lions for 1st and 2nd or 42nd if they dont. I think the Skins with one of these picks will be i a good position to get a quality RB to take over the starting job in DC and alow Betts to be a very good 2nd back. IF Greg Jones is left by the 2nd round, which I dont think he will be, the Skins should definately take him. If he is gone I like the Skins going with either Michael Turner or Chris Perry (Both should be left). Personally I like Turner over Perry even though many mocks have Perry going over Turner. I think Turner has good power and is a lot more explosive than Perry. Both of them are good and would fit Gibbs system however. This could be one of the Skins best drafts if they play their cards right.

garedskin
02-22-2004, 10:53 AM
I hope they draft S Sean Taylor Miami in the 1st RD
Then Draft RB Greg Jones in the 2nd RD. I am a Florida ST. Fan and both will be great players. Jones is two seasons removed from his knee injury and he will be a monster in the nfl for years to come.He will be the steal of the draft and i hope we land him.I hate miami but Taylor is a great safety that the skins need and have not had since Ken Houston retired.

tonedog12345
02-22-2004, 07:47 PM
Uhhh no Kevin Jones is much better than him... but i wouldnt mind having him with a second round pick

lavartown
02-25-2004, 03:02 PM
i think that he is going to be awesome.

lavartown
02-25-2004, 03:02 PM
sean taylor is also really awesome

steelskins
02-25-2004, 03:12 PM
I think we should just let the Cowboys have him. I mean we still should be good this year and besides we could use the money in other places...