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Skinzaholic
02-04-2004, 05:43 AM
After hearing Coach Gibbs announce his list of assistant coaches... two things come to mind that have me a bit worried.

1. Too many Chiefs? I know this is a stark contrast to the regime under Spurrier, with very little NFL experience at all. But, do we have too much experience now? Seems the titles of Assistant HC given to Williams and Bugel are really just fancy Coordinator titles. What will the coordinators do then?

I trust Gibbs like the rest of us... but some of this is funny. Look at Bugel for instance... he has served as a Head Coach for several years after Gibbs left. Yet how will he feel not even calling the plays? Gregg Williams held the top job in Buffalo for 3 years... how will he adjust to working for someone else again? Don Breaux has the largest leap into a role which is labeled Offensive Coordinator, yet who knows what that means. Jack Burns is an ex-coordinator... now reduced to QB coach under some big names.

I know these guys mostly worked under Gibbs already... and his leadership is trememndous... but I hope some of these guys with hefty resumes dont mind taking a back seat.


2. This seems like a "make it, break it" coaching staff we have assembled here. Gibbs and co. have all had lusty careers (mostly with the Skins). If they blow it this time around, will it forever tarnish our history? Worse yet... what if they become a laughing stock in the NFL? Seems all the eggs are being placed in one big basket.

hail2skins
02-04-2004, 05:54 AM
Well, remember Gibbs is trying to get people to forget about our glory past. Remember he said why he didn't wear his ring at his press conference because this is a new beginning and should not be tied to thes past. I thought that was a good way for him to handle things. What we did in the past is in the past. It's in the books already.

There will be an adjustment for several of the coaches who are now coordinators and position coaches but it has happened before. Turner went back to work as an OC after his head coaching job. There are several others as well. I believe but I may be wrong but I think Breaux sort of served as a pseudo OC under Gibbs in previous years so I don't think it is a really big jump for him.

The two big names Gibbs and Williams will be calling the shots. It's an interesting hierarchy but I believe it can work.

RedskinRyan
02-04-2004, 06:23 AM
well, maybe williams will understand that he isnt head coaching material. there was a point that i thought buffalo would win the super bowl this season because they started off so dominating, but finished 6-10(sound familiar?).

Patrick
02-04-2004, 06:31 AM
Not worried at all. Gibbs has a plan (once again) and its probably something he learn in NASCAR, which he was (IS) very sucessful in. Alot of good minds coming together, a good mix of young and old, with alot to offer in experience. And two rookie coaches to throw in there - what a way to start your career in coaching. Couldn't think of a better place to be, under a great head master.

GolfFreak
02-04-2004, 06:58 AM
I also wondered about who would call the plays and if it's Gibbs and Willams then why give the other two guys Coord titles. I'm not worried about too may big named coaches though - I think that can only help our undisciplined team.

NamVet4
02-04-2004, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by benjamce
I also wondered about who would call the plays and if it's Gibbs and Willams then why give the other two guys Coord titles. I'm not worried about too may big named coaches though - I think that can only help our undisciplined team.

Benjamce is: Absolutely correct!
Coach Gibbs has inherited an undisciplined team!
In Basic Training there is a Head DI and lots of assistants DI’s who are specialists in what they do and teach. It is their job to motivate, train and correct bad habits while promoting excellent performance. They do this by working closely with everybody….
:)

JoeDaSchmoe
02-04-2004, 08:05 AM
As we think we've determined in the other thread, the large amount of titles was used so that it would be harder for other teams to take away our coaches.

PennSkinsFan
02-04-2004, 08:08 AM
You also have to remember, Bugel, Burns, Breauz, Zampese, these guys all left the game, they only came back because of Joe Gibbs and ther desire to coach fro him once again. I dont expect Bugel think he would cvall plays. He came back "with" Joe Gibbs and "for" Joe Gibbs. He did nto come back as head coach.

My feeling is, despite all the lofty titles that are assigned for resume and ego purposes only, I am sure duties have been spelled out down to very minor specifics internally already. Everyone knows their role.

This is a highly experinces and professional staff. I like it, great mix, great experience, and I am psyched for 2004!

skinsfanincali
02-04-2004, 09:48 AM
Coach Gibbs knows exactly what he's doing.

IowaSkinsFan
02-04-2004, 10:00 AM
I don't know that any questions can/will be answered about this coaching staff until we get some mini camps under our belt. But I agree, what are the 2 assistant head coaches going to be doing if for example, Greg Blache is calling the defense and Gibbs is calling the plays?

Very interesting to see how all of this will play out.

skins74
02-04-2004, 10:51 AM
Its all good, no worries mate!

Skins57
02-04-2004, 10:59 AM
I am sure everyone knows thier set roles and the titles are just for looks

Spence
02-04-2004, 11:22 AM
The team needs a strong hand at every position, something they have not had. This is an excellent coaching staff. It does not guarantee success, but does make it far more likely.

AGibbsGirl
02-04-2004, 11:28 AM
Here's a question that's been on my mind, how many coaches are there usually? Gibbs is up to 19, isn't that a lot?

Skins57
02-04-2004, 11:36 AM
NE had 17, I heard so it isn't much more than NE and we see how that worked there.

RedskinsDave
02-04-2004, 11:37 AM
The reason they named them Assistant head coaches is because the only way that another team can ask to speak with them is if they offer a head coaching job.

The Post article seems to indicate that they don't have any more coaches than an average team.

LadyNRedskinsfan
02-04-2004, 04:15 PM
i think what we have is a bunch of coaches who joe can trust to teach his team what we wants....and thats good enough for me because all of these giys are pretty qualified. its not like we have coaches who were in the running for any head coaching jobs.

joethefan
02-04-2004, 05:47 PM
Gibbs Strenth is the ability to be a great manager. Great managers are great only because of the people under him...I feel he will be ok.....

higgybaby
02-04-2004, 08:55 PM
I think grabbing a bunch of former head coaches and putting them in coordinator roles has worked out just fine for ralph freidgen and the terps

REALRICK
02-04-2004, 11:05 PM
Now theres a Chicken Little. Somebody running around screaming that there are tooooooooooo many people in charge.

It sure beats the heck out of last season...when noooooobody was in charge.

IowaSkinsFan
02-05-2004, 12:53 AM
We also have a special teams coordinator. The Post said that the guy hired from Buffalo for ST's will be the coordinator of ST's, with Olivadotti working with the ST's too!