Ok this is getting out of hand

[TexSkin]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=494&ncid=762&e=1&u=/ap/20040205/ap_en_tv/super_bowl_jackson


I mean some people in our country have a real weird sense of whats obscene and offensive. When I first saw the halftime show I could tell it was staged and laughed it off because it was another sad attempt by a celebrity to get attention. (ala Britney and Maddona kissing).

What I have find sad is that there are shows on TV that are ultra violent and although I love most of them, it take a lousy boob to outrage people? I dont know this just seems well stupid to me. I kow some people will say that their families were watching the superbowl but really its not like they had sex on stage. I guess I am just sick of how screwed morals are these days.

[RedskinsDave]

If you're sick of how screwed morals are, I'd think you'd care a little more. Yes, there are violent and obscene shows on t.v. but parents know what those shows are and when those shows are on. This was the Super Bowl, not NYPD Blue. There is a level of responsibility by the people who put these events on the censor the material to suit the viewers.

[TexSkin]

Yoour missing my point..I am not saying what they did is right...what I am sick of his how some of the stuff shown on TV...and I am even talking cartoons geared toward children are worse then an 1 second flash of boob. Yet everyone gets outraged and makes a big stink about it.

[RedskinsDave]

I think it was because of the exposure the Super Bowl gets (pun intended).

[IowaSkinsFan]

It was on public television with no warning. You can't have naked body parts on public television without some form of parental notice about the content. NYPD Blue does, yes, but prior to each show there is a disclosure and a warning for parents abou that content.

As a parent I can see how other parents with children in an impressionable age group would be concerned with what transpired.

[TexSkin]

You know what...this probably belongs in the Politcal forum...let me move it.

[Minnesota Mike]

I liked David Letterman's comment the other night. He said

"Janet Jackson pretended to apologize to all of the people who pretended to be offended."

[TexSkin]

I agree Mike..its just getting out of hand. This country puts more focus on Nudity then it does on violence. Which is the exact oppisite of alot of other countries. I thought this would be a good discussion.

[Seebs]

I've not wathced the SB yet but i've already seen the Boob incident. Okay it was not the place for it, but doing such a mess for that, pfff. People have paid more attention to it because they do such a buzz for that... this is stupid.
Bette r things should be done on gun control than on Boob control.

[Spence]

It gives the self-appointed guardians of our morality another opportunity to wag their fingers and proclaim that only they can stand between America's children and an Armageddon of cultural rot. Oh, and by the way--vote for me if I'm running for office and send me half your paycheck if I'm running a TV ministry.

It was the wrong venue for such a display, but what did the NFL expect to get? You hire MTV, you get MTV. This exposed breast was on the screen for less than a second. They cut away so quickly I had to turn to the other people watching with me and ask if I'd really seen what I thought I had seen. Meanwhile, anyone who watches NFL games all year has seen an endless parade of commercials featuring half-naked models who tell you that if you buy Budweiser beer you can get them drunk and naked. And let's not forget the bevy of cheerleaders who are about one burst button away from an indecent exposure charge.

"We're shocked---SHOCKED--by this totally offensive display!"

Bite me, NFL. You've been using T&A to help sell your game to fans and advertisers for as long as I've been alive. Don't get all Silas Marner on me now.

[lightskin]

:goodpost: All excellent points, Spence.

[TexSkin]

ME ThAnks Spence..me nOt spoke so wEll and jo put it munch butter than me :D

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by Spence
It gives the self-appointed guardians of our morality another opportunity to wag their fingers and proclaim that only they can stand between America's children and an Armageddon of cultural rot. Oh, and by the way--vote for me if I'm running for office and send me half your paycheck if I'm running a TV ministry.

It was the wrong venue for such a display, but what did the NFL expect to get? You hire MTV, you get MTV. This exposed breast was on the screen for less than a second. They cut away so quickly I had to turn to the other people watching with me and ask if I'd really seen what I thought I had seen. Meanwhile, anyone who watches NFL games all year has seen an endless parade of commercials featuring half-naked models who tell you that if you buy Budweiser beer you can get them drunk and naked. And let's not forget the bevy of cheerleaders who are about one burst button away from an indecent exposure charge.

"We're shocked---SHOCKED--by this totally offensive display!"

Bite me, NFL. You've been using T&A to help sell your game to fans and advertisers for as long as I've been alive. Don't get all Silas Marner on me now.

That pretty much sums up my feelings.

What I marvel at is sheer number of replays of the incident that are plastered all over the news and other outlets. If it's so morally wrong and dispicable, STOP SHOWING IT!!!!!!

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
That pretty much sums up my feelings.

What I marvel at is sheer number of replays of the incident that are plastered all over the news and other outlets. If it's so morally wrong and dispicable, STOP SHOWING IT!!!!!!

Darnit, that was my point as well. Well stated there ol chap.

[Seebs]

Just a question: have you heard / seen the British Streaker (and he's not General Disorder) who entered the pitch just before 2nd half KickOff. Because as he entered on the pitch, CBS wednt large shooting from the roof. That is for me far more disturbing for the NFL as Reliant Stadium was supposed to be the safiest place in the world last sunday. The guy is very famous in Europe. He did it in european soccer final, on tennis games, rugby...

[Patrick]

If I remember correctly - every TV comes with a Off button.

[Spence]

Originally posted by Seebs
Just a question: have you heard / seen the British Streaker (and he's not General Disorder) who entered the pitch just before 2nd half KickOff. Because as he entered on the pitch, CBS wednt large shooting from the roof. That is for me far more disturbing for the NFL as Reliant Stadium was supposed to be the safiest place in the world last sunday. The guy is very famous in Europe. He did it in european soccer final, on tennis games, rugby... I heard about that, Seebs, but American TV networks have a policy of not showing streakers at all. Previously, they would show them, but blur out the naughty bits, but now they don't show them at all, a policy I agree with. It just encourages them. Sure, they're basically harmless, but also rather annoying and they delay the game.

[NamVet4]

Seebs is correct... what about the so-called security in a stadium that was suppposed to be a very safe place?
You have to start to wonder ? ? ? ?

[Seebs]

IMO I think that they do such a buzz about Janet just to cover the security issue.

[Spence]

I suspect the security issue is one the NFL would rather not have people talking about.

[Skins57]

Originally posted by Spence
I suspect the security issue is one the NFL would rather not have people talking about.

I agree Spence, my first thought was how did this streaker get on the field. It was a well thought out plan by this guy but it should never have been allowed to get on the field. Also wouldn't the football field be the last place you would want to streak, run too close to a fired up linebacker and you could have some serious problems.


I think it is a shame that people don't get this worked up over the violence and adult themes on other TV shows. I agree Janet and MTV were wrong but if the media and people would get outraged at other problems on network TV, maybe they could change the way the networks do things. NYPD Blue would still have its fans without the nudity and language. There is no place for any of that no matter what kind of rating or warning it gets.

[AGibbsGirl]

Originally posted by Spence
It gives the self-appointed guardians of our morality another opportunity to wag their fingers and proclaim that only they can stand between America's children and an Armageddon of cultural rot. Oh, and by the way--vote for me if I'm running for office and send me half your paycheck if I'm running a TV ministry.

It was the wrong venue for such a display, but what did the NFL expect to get? You hire MTV, you get MTV. This exposed breast was on the screen for less than a second. They cut away so quickly I had to turn to the other people watching with me and ask if I'd really seen what I thought I had seen. Meanwhile, anyone who watches NFL games all year has seen an endless parade of commercials featuring half-naked models who tell you that if you buy Budweiser beer you can get them drunk and naked. And let's not forget the bevy of cheerleaders who are about one burst button away from an indecent exposure charge.

"We're shocked---SHOCKED--by this totally offensive display!"

Bite me, NFL. You've been using T&A to help sell your game to fans and advertisers for as long as I've been alive. Don't get all Silas Marner on me now.

Crud Spence! After reading over your normal eye rolling diatribe crap, in the first paragraph, I was getting ready to skip the rest of your post when to my astonishment...I found that I agreed with it!

[dukeuch]

Originally posted by NamVet4
Seebs is correct... what about the so-called security in a stadium that was suppposed to be a very safe place?
You have to start to wonder ? ? ? ?

Well, how do you guard against a streaker, make sure they are not wearing their birthday suit underneath their clothes? Short of putting a fence around the field, a determined person, not caring if they get arrested, will always find a way. Who cares about such an insignificant breach of security so long as no weapons make it inside the stadium?

[Spence]

I don't even want to think about where a streaker might hide a weapon.