Kurt Warner a Redskin?

[REALRICK]

Well, as unbelievable as it sounds, I wonder if Coach Gibbs and Kurt might begin talking now that religion seems to be a problem with some teams. Coach Gibbs believes in family, God, and football, the same as Kurt Warner.

Warner has a ton of money due him if he stays with the Rams so thats not going to happen. If they cut him after June 1st, then they will still owe him bonus money for 2 seasons. And that might just be enough of a factor that he could sign with the Skins.

Yes I know we have Patrick Ramsey but so what. Joe Gibbs wants a QB who knows how to read defenses and knows how to win. Who better than a Superbowl QB? It actually wouldn't hurt Patrick to sit and learn from a guy like Warner for a year or 2. It certainly didn't hurt Steve Young to sit and watch Montana lead the 49ers to the Superbowl a couple of times. Steve Young finally got a starting job at what......29.

I would feel pretty good about Warner, Ramsey, and Hasslebeck, and you have to admit.......you would too.

[akhhorus]

NO NO NO NO NO NO please, NO

[JoeDaSchmoe]

Erm.... No QB controversy, please. No stunting Ramsey's growth. No Kurt "Really, concussions won't affect my play at all" Warner.

[akhhorus]

And Kurt "It Must Be My Bible Study That Has Got Me Benched" Warner

And Kurt "Havent won a start in 8 games" Warner

And Kurt "Brenda wears the pants" Warner

[akhhorus]

And St. Louis wont cut him, too big a cap hit. And St. Louis wants a lot for him.

[Skins57]

If we could sign Warner, how much extra for Kurt. :D:D Bulger doesn't seem to me to be such a great QB, he throws way too many picks.

[LuvSkins17]

Ramsey would do better being on the field. I would hate to see him wait again. I don't think we would make this move.
Naaaaaaaaaa........

[REALRICK]

Let me address each concern independently.

First, the concussion issue. I agree he was suffering from concussion wooziness last year in that first game and it continued to linger. However, he has had what he didn't have the year before, LOTS of rest without getting hit every week. He should be fine now.

As far as him not winning in 8 starts, I would say first of all if he had we wouldn't have a chance at getting him. Second of all, most of that would have to be blamed on the first reason, the concussions and Mike Martz playing him regardless. Take away the effects of the concussions, and you take away the first 2 objections.

And regarding NO QB controversy. Well, there is never a QB controversy when you have 1 single QB who can lead you to a winning season and he performs consistently over and over. Patrick Ramsey has never done that so we don't have a real starting QB yet.We have a young kid who has LOTS of potential, but for those of you who predict that 12-4 season every year, you also predict THIS years QB will lead the league in passing. Of course, it never happens.

Ramsey has to prove he can stay healthy, with no lingering effects of the foot injury. Heath Shuler had a foot injury, it never healed, and he just couldn't return to football. I don't want Patrick to go through the same thing.

Also, I will reitterate that we need an experienced, proven winner, with a quick release who can help develop Ramsey. That guy describes Warner, and NOT Jeff Blake, who you are all so high on.

Anyway, this was just a thought of 1 possibilty. Joe Gibbs would have no problems with Kurt because they are both very religious and like to pray before and after games. Warner is most definitely a Gibbs kinda guy. What remains to be seen is what the Rams do with him and whether he would entertain the idea of coming here to finish out his career.

P.S. I could care less what his wife does because she is in the stands on Sunday and not on the field.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

Experienced, proven winner, huh? Well, why don't you bring Joe Theismann back? Or how about Mark Rypien? I mean, hell, he led us to a Super Bowl only 13 years ago, he must be fresh.

You don't bring them back because they're done. They don't have it anymore. They can't do it. Warner is the same way. Yes, he was great. Yes, he did tear up the league. But that was then, this is now, and Warner is a shell of his former self. Quick release? I saw one of the worst releases in the league when I watched that Giants game before the concussion. By the way, he played better after he got that than before, so don't pull it out as an excuse.

The guy would cause nothing but trouble for us. You know why we're all all "so high" on Jeff Blake? Because he's cheap and won't stir up another QB controversy. Warner will take up way too much cap space, come in expecting a shot at a starting job, and leave the team unsure about who its leader will be for the rest of the year. That's not what we need.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

As far as him not winning in 8 starts, I would say first of all if he had we wouldn't have a chance at getting him. Second of all, most of that would have to be blamed on the first reason, the concussions and Mike Martz playing him regardless. Take away the effects of the concussions, and you take away the first 2 objections.

Most of those starts were in 2002. That has nothing to do with the concussions.

Kurt Warner has not won a game since the 2001 season's NFC Championship. Think about it.

[LuvSkins17]

Originally posted by JoeDaSchmoe
. Warner will take up way too much cap space, come in expecting a shot at a starting job, and leave the team unsure about who its leader will be for the rest of the year. That's not what we need.

That's what I was saying Joe. You Damn Right!!!

Did I ever say thanks for the ride to the shuttle at the hR Tailgate?

[tyrone_rush_fan]

Warner probably does have good years left in him, and he's certainly worth taking a risk on. And I read somewhere that he and St. Louis could possibly work something out (like paying back some bonus money) to get out of the contract.

However, the debate as to whether Warner would work out well here in Washington is mute, because bottomline the skins can't afford him anyway.

[hail2skins]

So if I understand this correctly, you want us to pay a high price for Warner because of his faith? I've heard it all now. Joe is correct. Warner didn't play well before the concussion. If he is all that you're saying he is, then this wouldn't be an issue.

[Redskinfan28]

He's washed up. Did anyone actually see him play this year? He was awful.

[TexSkin]

Lets just sign his wife...she is much tougher anyway.

[Keino]

Signs that it's the off-season:

Someone suggests exploring bringing in Kurt Warner.....someone who is opposed to a cheaper and more effective Jeff Blake.

Stay off the drugs or share them.

[rskinsfan10]

Wow.

[CarMike]

I've been hearing that Martz is thinking about keeping Warner. And he could be the starter for them on opening day.

No way do we make a move like this. We're looking DL help!

[Redvan]

I don't think I would be able to hold back the vomit if I had to hear Redskins and religion in the same topic.

JoeDaSchmoe, once again, I can't agree more; Warner has seen his days.

[AGibbsGirl]

You guys are just mean

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by JoeDaSchmoe
Most of those starts were in 2002. That has nothing to do with the concussions.

Kurt Warner has not won a game since the 2001 season's NFC Championship. Think about it.

His thumb is still injured and I wouldnt trust him to be the same QB he was a few years ago. Maybe Satan revoked the contract he had with him....

[frankez99]

Warner is the epitome of a "indoor turf" QB with fast recievers that had it all click at once...but those days are long over for him. He shouldn't even be considered.

[Odyn]

The experienced backup is someone who can teach Patrick as he learns to be a starter. Most likely a bench warmer who will be a teacher.

[SkinsCT]

Wouldn't be surprised if Warner ends up here. But Kurt, please check your bible at the door, I feel like that got old in STL after a while. And did he really say that thing about his faith getting him benched? That's one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. This is the NFL, coaches would kill to win, it doesn't matter what someone does off the field in their personal time.

[skins74]

Why would we need Warner? Hasselbeck is the next Farve, right Realrick?

[petman88]

if i see warner as a back up i will cry

[JoeDaSchmoe]

Originally posted by LuvSkins17
Did I ever say thanks for the ride to the shuttle at the hR Tailgate?

Yes, many times. ;)

[akhhorus]

and dont forget my personal favorite one:
Kurt "Don't resign Az-Azer Hakim because he's Muslim" Warner

I have no problem with being religious, BUT this isn't the All-Pious team, you need people who can actually play, and Warner HAS NOT shown that recently he's an effective starter. Also keep in mind that's he 32.

[BigCountry]

If you told me an all heathen team could win a superbowl, I'd be all for it. Religion will have nothing to do with any of decisions Gibbs makes, nor should it.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by akhhorus
and dont forget my personal favorite one:
Kurt "Don't resign Az-Azer Hakim because he's Muslim" Warner

Did he really say that?

[CarMike]

Why should Warner "check his bible at the door"? It may not be the "cool" thing these days to be praise god, but he has every right to do it when ever and where ever he wants too.

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
Did he really say that?

When Hakim left for Detroit, he wanted to resign with St. Louis for less money and Warner apparently told Martz that(as reported by everyone)

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by CarMike
Why should Warner "check his bible at the door"? It may not be the "cool" thing these days to be praise god, but he has every right to do it when ever and where ever he wants too.

I'm not saying he should check his Bible at the door, but I dont like it when he uses it as an excuse for his benching.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by akhhorus
When Hakim left for Detroit, he wanted to resign with St. Louis for less money and Warner apparently told Martz that(as reported by everyone)

Wow. If that's true, then I have lost all respect for him.

[akhhorus]

That was widely reported

[akhhorus]

I gues the Brunell talk sort-of destroys this thread..

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by akhhorus
That was widely reported

I don't remember that at all. Can you find a link which talks about it and post it here?

[akhhorus]

its a couple years old, but ill try to find it

[BadSkin]

pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssse no

NO BRUNELL for a second round
NO WARNER - stick with ramsey
NO quarteback controversy again
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

[AGibbsGirl]

Originally posted by akhhorus
When Hakim left for Detroit, he wanted to resign with St. Louis for less money and Warner apparently told Martz that(as reported by everyone)

You guys know nothing about Evangelical Christians, he would never say something like this. If something was said, it was taken out of context, just as these statements were. According to Kurt Warner in an interview the other day...

[SkinsKY]

Kurt Warner's signature during the Super Bowl run and while he was still winning was that the ball was out of his hand in no more than three seconds. That's it. You can't get to a QB that fast. Watch his last 8 starts. Watch how many times he starts to release the ball. He begins to throw like normal and pulls it back. After that, he's lost and just looks around and the pressure gets to him and he makes bad decisions. 5 TDs vs 15 INTS. I think I could do better than that by just throwing the ball out of bounds every play. The man hit his stride, got his money, and is now finished as a starting QB and I think that in two years, he's out of the league or a 3rd stringer. He can't do it anymore.

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by AGibbsGirl
You guys know nothing about Evangelical Christians, he would never say something like this. If something was said, it was taken out of context, just as these statements were. According to Kurt Warner in an interview the other day...

I know some Evangelical Christians who will not work with non-Christians. I had a Evangelical boss who harassed me because i wasnt moral enough

[IowaSkinsFan]

Warner has had his 15 minutes of fame. I think he is more the QB we saw in last year's opener against the Giants than he was during his 3 year "unconscious" streak. Holds the ball too long and too low.

[AGibbsGirl]

Originally posted by akhhorus
I know some Evangelical Christians who will not work with non-Christians. I had a Evangelical boss who harassed me because i wasnt moral enough

Then he was claiming to be something he clearly wasn't.

Lovel, grace and humility is the foundation of an Evangelical's faith.