Miami wants Ramsey!!!

[bball7980]

Reports are coming out that Miami has already offered their 20th pick to the washington Redskins for their young QB Patrick Ramsey. Miami is disputing these rumors. What do you guys think?

[higgybaby]

for the 20th pick , I would do it

[truant]

We'd create another need (QB) and add a decent size contract to this years already growing list.

Who's confident that Brunell will make it through a 16 game season? You can't be confident about any QB, let alone a 34 year old. Ramsey should be here unless we get a totally lopsided deal.

[higgybaby]

I can see the skins trading Ram for a late first rounder(20th) signing a low cost backup(dilfer) and getting a d-line man or if one of the stud rb's are available using it on him

[akhhorus]

Yeah, but I would ask for a conditional pick next year. WIth the 20th, the Skins could take JP Losman or Philip Rivers to be the Heir-Apparent. If they werent available, I would draft John Navarre later in the draft(do I have to give my lecture on under-rated Michigan QBs who were successful in college?)

[bball7980]

I agree with you Truant except for one thing. We have a backup in Hasselback. How many winning years did Gibbs have without a great QB? He had ok QB and he still won. If Miami gave us a third rounder also then I would definitly do it but I think I would do it now too. Here are a few options we could get with the 20th pick: RB Chris Perry, Steven Jaskson, or maybe Jones. DE Odom,Will Smith. DT Wilfork, Starks, maybe Harris (he is falling).

[truant]

I'm really pumped about the draft, but we can't replace all these people with picks. Hasselbeck is a nice player, but he's not a Gibbs QB. Look at all the QB's he had, they were physically gifted.

Dilfer would be nice, but he's still under contract... so that'd be another trade and Seattle said they'd let him go only for a starting job.

With all that being said, I'd LOVE to have Cody Pickett as a QB to groom in the future. He'd be the guy I want if we lose Pat (i don't want to lose Pat).

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by truant
I'm really pumped about the draft, but we can't replace all these people with picks. Hasselbeck is a nice player, but he's not a Gibbs QB. Look at all the QB's he had, they were physically gifted.

Dilfer would be nice, but he's still under contract... so that'd be another trade and Seattle said they'd let him go only for a starting job.

With all that being said, I'd LOVE to have Cody Pickett as a QB to groom in the future. He'd be the guy I want if we lose Pat (i don't want to lose Pat).

I agree about Cody Pickett, he was a good player at UW, and he never had talent around him. Good arm, Good head and tough. He'd probably be available in the 4th round

[DallasSux]

Keep Ramsey

[Patrick]

Don't think Miami wants Ramsey anymore simply because they were reportly "rebuffed" when they last injuried. Also heard something about Miami may be turning their interest to Henson.

[TexSkin]

Nope keep Ramsey

[lb56blitz]

IMO, i don't see Brunell making it the whole season, so if he is the starter, we will need Ramsey to step up and resume his position and take the skins to the top for years to come.

[dj_stouty]

First they want Spurrier....now Ramsey.

Did they actually watch the Redskins last year? :D

I voted no. I believe a higher pick is needed....

[REDMAN]

keep ram

[Marlboro Red]

Keep Ramsey, he is a good young quarterback that has no leverage to leave. If he is going to get angry about the quarterback situation, I believe he has the integrity to turn his fire into performance on the (practice) field and won't undermine the team.

[AGibbsGirl]

NO!

[ShaggySkins]

Keep him provided he's willing to compete and deal with the decision coach Gibbs makes. If he and his agent continue to make statements through the media about how they want to leave and want a trade then I would look to deal him. If his agent continues to burn bridges and try to stir up a controversy I'd send him packing.

[bfauble83]

So would we get Sage back?

[Skins57]

I say hold on to him, he should have a managable cap figure and a very good young QB. For us to trade him and then use that pick on a young QB sounds stupid

[Skinzwelder]

No way we get rid of Ramsey. Why get rid of a very promising QB just so we can try to draft another promising QB in the future? Besides, when Brunell gets hurt I'd rather have Ramsey stepping in than Hasselback.

[RichardBradley]

No way just for the 2oth pick..... The longer we wait the better

[suppitty]

wiat a minute. trade champ and get either # 6 or #7. cardinals said they wont take a qb. roethlinsberger falls to us at #5. we take him. then with the 6/7 we take sean taylor or tommie harris. then with #20 we take stephen jackson. in the 2nd round we take troupe/ watson. big ben learns behing brunell for a while and then he becomes the next peyton manning.

[¤Smooooot¤]

There is no way in hell we trade ramsey.....do you all think Gibbs is stupid???

[jsarno]

I am undecided on this one. The 20th pick is better than Ramsey's spot, but I do think that after Ramsey has some time under a great QB and Coach like Brunell and Gibbs, he will be a really good QB. SO in that sense, I don't think the 20th pick is worth is. I'm totally 50/50 on this right now.

[frankez99]

Any college QB remaining that we could get for the 20th pick or less would be better than Ramsey. Ramsey is serviceable, but didn't show me anything (albeit limited) that makes him a untradeable must keeper. And who gives a heck about Ramseys age? There are plenty of young qb's with Ramseys skills and talents that are going to be available....even late in the draft. Bottom line is, if Ramsey wants to stay here and challenge for a roster spot....then keep him...but if someone would give us #20 or less then I would take it in a heartbeat. Remember, Ramsey is still practically a rookie and will be learning a whole new offense under Joe Gibbs...so a drafted rookie would be just as serviceable as a backup....hail

[jsarno]

you got a point Frankez99

[Yudolindo]

Originally posted by frankez99
Any college QB remaining that we could get for the 20th pick or less would be better than Ramsey. Ramsey is serviceable, but didn't show me anything (albeit limited) that makes him a untradeable must keeper. And who gives a heck about Ramseys age? There are plenty of young qb's with Ramseys skills and talents that are going to be available....even late in the draft. Bottom line is, if Ramsey wants to stay here and challenge for a roster spot....then keep him...but if someone would give us #20 or less then I would take it in a heartbeat. Remember, Ramsey is still practically a rookie and will be learning a whole new offense under Joe Gibbs...so a drafted rookie would be just as serviceable as a backup....hail

So, have you been watching football from the moon?

I got an idea, lets trade a guy, who you in your opinion have seen nothing from, but many NFL personnel types think has big time potential, so we can draft one who may be an utter flop? I think we have other holes to fill for one, and there is no way Brunell makes it through the season, let alone four years of his contract; so Ramsey stays.

[Va.SkinFan]

This sounds all in good for trading Ramsey but you better stop and think what Snyder is getting himself in to. We already have the number 5 pick, possibly even the 6th if we get the trade from the Lions for Champ. If we trade Ramsey for the 20th, thats 3 1sts in the top 20. Thats big money Snyder is looking at. We have a few other picks in the draft and free agency. Will Snyder be able to sign everyone and still be under cap.

[Spence]

Ramsey is worth more than the 20th pick in the draft. So far, he's had a better career than David Carr or Joey Harrington.

No way no how no chance no deal.

[skins74]

I think after (2) years Ramsey is going to be the starter here for the rest of his career. Until then he needs to stay here and learn from a good QB and great coaching staff.

[ShaggySkins]

Originally posted by Spence
So far, he's had a better career than David Carr or Joey Harrington.


He also has a lot more talent around him then either of those two guys.

[skinsfaninCT]

Ramsey and our #5 pick to the Chargers for there #1 and draft Manning.
Trade Bailey for the #6 pick and a second rounder next year,or the #7 pick and a second rounder next year.

[ShaggySkins]

Originally posted by skinsfaninCT
Ramsey and our #5 pick to the Chargers for there #1 and draft Manning.
Trade Bailey for the #6 pick and a second rounder next year,or the #7 pick and a second rounder next year.

And where do you intend to get the salary cap money and still sign players for the DL????

[Smiley]

Ramsey stays, who would replace him? Sexton: good luck forcing Joe Gibbs' hand. Ramsey: stop crying and get ready to compete for your job. I love ya' kid but stop acting like Bruce Smith and take your job, this is your chance.

[skinsfaninCT]

if we take the 6th or 7th and trade down for picks later in the first round we can pick up D line late first or second round.salaries should be cheaper in late first round and second.

[Green-Is-Good]

Originally posted by higgybaby
I can see the skins trading Ram for a late first rounder(20th) signing a low cost backup(dilfer) and getting a d-line man or if one of the stud rb's are available using it on him

Well, why could we not have just overlooked Brunell and signed Dilfer to be Ramsey's backup? It makes no sense!

[dj_stouty]

Originally posted by Spence
Ramsey is worth more than the 20th pick in the draft. So far, he's had a better career than David Carr or Joey Harrington.

I agree with that. I don't see Houston or Detroit considering trading Carr or Harrington, despite both leading their teams to 5-11 records.

[Counter Trey]

Maybe all of this talk by Ramsey through his agent is just a knee-jerk reaction to the Skins getting Brunell but I'm of the attitude that if a guy doesn't want to play here then get rid of him and get someone in here who does want to play for the only active HOF coach in the league.