Poor guys at Orangemane

[PennSkinsFan]

plenty of good friend over there, Spider who has been posting here lately, bunch of good guys, but man, are they ever depressed. :D

[rskinsfan10]

I really see this as a win-win for both sides.

[¤Smooooot¤]

Oh well.....i want portis a lot but they should be happy. Its harder to get a prime time cb than a prime time rb. They should be pumped to get him and a 2nd round pick.

[SusQhnnaSkin]

I don't know if this is a good comparison, But I would feel the same way if we traded Ramsey. It's never good to see a great young player like that leave. My condolences, Bronco fans. Not sorry enough for them to not want CP, however.

[Spider]

Yeah were a tad Bit upset , but Most of us have come to our sences and see this was a win win for both teams .....
you guys Needed a Running back and we Needed a Corner , and our Front offices said why not go out and get the best ........
And thats what they did in My Opinion .. we got a Premire CB and you guys got a premire Running Back .......
LMAO TJ over at mane got a Chuckle at the Boys and the eagles Facing Portis twice a year .....

[truant]

Good for both teams and i'll continue to wish Champ the best.

You guys got the best player at a position, it has to feel pretty nice.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Hey spider are we still reportedly giving you this years 2nd?If so, dont you feel that is a bit steep on our part?Ok,bailey is a stud,portis the same.Bailey has to work out a new deal,Portis has to work out a new deal.They are each top 3 or better at their respective positions.You wanted a 1st and 2nd for Portis,we wanted the same for bailey.Why do we have to throw in a second.Im still having a hard time with this lol.I mean I think were getting what we need,but so are you guys right?

[Spider]

Originally posted by NCskinsfanatic
Hey spider are we still reportedly giving you this years 2nd?If so, dont you feel that is a bit steep on our part?Ok,bailey is a stud,portis the same.Bailey has to work out a new deal,Portis has to work out a new deal.They are each top 3 or better at their respective positions.You wanted a 1st and 2nd for Portis,we wanted the same for bailey.Why do we have to throw in a second.Im still having a hard time with this lol.I mean I think were getting what we need,but so are you guys right?
Kinda , Gibbs must have agreed that the second round pick wasnt to much to ask .......
Wait untill you see Portis run , then come back and ask me that question .......... I can put this way I had KOA denver sports talk the zoo on , Raider fan , Chief fans calling in Happy Portis is gone .....

[NCskinsfanatic]

Thanks for the info.I have faith in Gibbs and his decesion making skills, Gibbs knows what hes doing. Im just a concerned fan watching us trade away picks.Believe me I think were getting a great back.I have no doubt Portis will be great,but at the very least we should be swapping 2nds IMHO.I guess thats why im not in charge though lol.Perhaps we had to give a little more to ensure you guys didnt deal him elsewhere.

[Spider]

Originally posted by NCskinsfanatic
Thanks for the info.I have faith in Gibbs and his decesion making skills, Gibbs knows what hes doing. Im just a concerned fan watching us trade away picks.Believe me I think were getting a great back.I have no doubt Portis will be great,but at the very least we should be swapping 2nds IMHO.I guess thats why im not in charge though lol.Perhaps we had to give a little more to ensure you guys didnt deal him elsewhere.
That very well could be ..... Iknow the Cowboys were interested ...... All in all if Portis had to Leave I am glad he went to you guys , I hate the Cowboys , and the Raiders , Ravens ... I would have died seeing portis as a Cowboy ( dont ask it is a Wyoming / Colorado - Texas thing ) ....

[NCskinsfanatic]

Hey we all "hate"somebody lol.Infact,I really dont care for any of the teams you named either.Im soooooooo glad he didnt got the cowgirls......whew!

[IowaSkinsFan]

Actually, with them resigning Wilson and committing $8million a year to Bailey, they should be depressed.

Portis is going to be a star in this league for a long time.

[natgbz]

Hey Spider,
What do you think of those Raiders out in Oakland? They've got our old coach now. And their old coach went to Nebraska. Any thoughts?

[Spider]

Originally posted by natgbz
Hey Spider,
What do you think of those Raiders out in Oakland? They've got our old coach now. And their old coach went to Nebraska. Any thoughts?
Dude , I love Norv as an OC , but as an HC I am not to sure .......
Jokeland has its own Problems , with Rice , Brown, Cwood running the show ..........
the inmates calling the Shots is never a good thing .....
Calahan was a Puppet ........ He needed to go .......

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by Spider
Dude , I love Norv as an OC , but as an HC I am not to sure .......
Jokeland has its own Problems , with Rice , Brown, Cwood running the show ..........
the inmates calling the Shots is never a good thing .....
Calahan was a Puppet ........ He needed to go .......

Jokeland, like that one.

[Jon Creveling]

Seeking Spider input. Spider, on another site I frequent known good Broncos fans mentioned that Portis is alittle too flashy(the word they used) maybe for coach Mike? Your input? Knowing what you know about Gibbs, any clash concerns? Another guy heard Clint on an radio interview and said Clint sounded very(word used by Bronco fan) happy to play in D.C.! You watch and follow the kid all the time, any quirks that we may not be aware of? You would be getting a great player in Champ, one that may even play better in a new setting! Man lets make it next years 2nd rounder!!!!

[chanesaw]

Portis is known to dress very flashy. I don't think that bothers Shanahan though. Of course we all know about the championship belt on the sidelines during the Chiefs game, but heck, with over 200 yards and 5 TD's he deserved it.

As far as being happy to play in DC, I think what he is really saying is he is happy to get a new contract. Snyder is the perfect owner for him. I don't think he cares where he plays.

[Redskinfan28]

I would have traded Ramsey for Miami's DE Ogo......... That would have been a great deal if it was true.

The Broncos will draft Jones in the 2nd and he will be sick.

[Spider]

Originally posted by Jon Creveling
Seeking Spider input. Spider, on another site I frequent known good Broncos fans mentioned that Portis is alittle too flashy(the word they used) maybe for coach Mike? Your input? Knowing what you know about Gibbs, any clash concerns? Another guy heard Clint on an radio interview and said Clint sounded very(word used by Bronco fan) happy to play in D.C.! You watch and follow the kid all the time, any quirks that we may not be aware of? You would be getting a great player in Champ, one that may even play better in a new setting! Man lets make it next years 2nd rounder!!!!
wow very outstanding Question ...........
Portis does have flair , but he will say and do the right things in interviews ....... Portis will pull stunts like the Belt , but no on the field crap Like Horn and T.O . .........
Gibbs will love Portis , as did Bowlen and Shanny , But Portis will speak his mind to the papers , Not solving problems in house ... Maybe he learnd a lesson in here in Denver ......... Thats somthng you guys will have to be carefull of . But if Portis says he is Happy to be in D.C. then i believe him . closer to Miami , he does love Miami .........

[CarMike]

Originally posted by Spider
Yeah were a tad Bit upset , but Most of us have come to our sences and see this was a win win for both teams .....
you guys Needed a Running back and we Needed a Corner , and our Front offices said why not go out and get the best ........
And thats what they did in My Opinion .. we got a Premire CB and you guys got a premire Running Back .......
LMAO TJ over at mane got a Chuckle at the Boys and the eagles Facing Portis twice a year .....

I love the fact that Denver hates the Cowboys as much [or about as much] as the Redskins hate them.

When I visited the Mane last year, I was very surprised to hear that.....but I loved it....:D

[CarMike]

Originally posted by chanesaw
Portis is known to dress very flashy. I don't think that bothers Shanahan though. Of course we all know about the championship belt on the sidelines during the Chiefs game, but heck, with over 200 yards and 5 TD's he deserved it.

As far as being happy to play in DC, I think what he is really saying is he is happy to get a new contract. Snyder is the perfect owner for him. I don't think he cares where he plays.

WOW! 200 yards and 5 TD's in one game? The 5 TD's are more than our total rushing TDs in the season....:D [I know that wrong, but you get my point...]

[IowaSkinsFan]

It's not that far off, CarMike.

[Spider]

Originally posted by CarMike
WOW! 200 yards and 5 TD's in one game? The 5 TD's are more than our total rushing TDs in the season....:D [I know that wrong, but you get my point...]
I love the fact that Denver hates the Cowboys as much [or about as much] as the Redskins hate them.

When I visited the Mane last year, I was very surprised to hear that.....but I loved it....
Yeah I am from Colorado myself , and it is the whole Texas vs Colorado thing ........... Niether realy care for each other much ...... We realy hate the Ravens also .......
Portis was on Fire .......

[skinsfanincali]

Originally posted by robert
Jokeland, like that one.
Most Charger fans here refer to it as Chokeland...

[CarMike]

Amen to that Spider....I hate the Raves as well.

[REDMAN]

we overpaid.

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally posted by REDMAN
we overpaid.

Disagreed for reasons I stated in munerous others posts. Bottom line, Portis is a game changer, an offensive impact maker, Champ is great, he is an upgrade to any defense, but he does not change the entire scope and face of a defense. Portis does. Portis not only changes the entire face of our offense, but also how defenses will play our offense. Truly an impact player at age 23, with a great future.

[RichardBradley]

I don't understand why they are depressed they are rapeing us

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
I don't understand why they are depressed they are rapeing us

I agree, I think it should be straight up. No pick at all unless they wanted to give us one. LOL

[Spider]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
I don't understand why they are depressed they are rapeing us
Seems both sides fans feel this way ...........
I was one of them , now I have had time to calm down and look at this , all I can say is we dont know much about Champ , and you guys realy dont know Portis ..........
Niether fan bases are Idiots , but sides have legitimate concerns , Maybe it is the unknown that causes this fear .........
I can tell you this though .. AFC west Fans exception of Denver love this deal , in fact they are dancing , Like I say Bro .... it is a matter of prespective

[Spider]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
Disagreed for reasons I stated in munerous others posts. Bottom line, Portis is a game changer, an offensive impact maker, Champ is great, he is an upgrade to any defense, but he does not change the entire scope and face of a defense. Portis does. Portis not only changes the entire face of our offense, but also how defenses will play our offense. Truly an impact player at age 23, with a great future.
That pretty much sums it up ........With a Back like stephen Davis you have some reaction time , With Portis Speed the reaction time is alot less , Meaning He forces Defenses to stay Home !!!!!!!!!
all it takes is 1 Dplayer out of Position and Portis is gone ... Thats a fact ....... you wont arm Tackle Portis and taking him One on one Hurts ....... and he is only 22 , he still has 2 years to get to his ideal Size .......

[RichardBradley]

I know Porttis I watched him for 2 years at Miami every home game. Every TV game ... He is no McGahee and Gore was better than Willis. Will McGahee ever be what he was? I dunno but I do know that he ran Clint out of town

[Spider]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
I know Porttis I watched him for 2 years at Miami every home game. Every TV game ... He is no McGahee and Gore was better than Willis. Will McGahee ever be what he was? I dunno but I do know that he ran Clint out of town
Ran him out of town ? Ok ..... Ran him right into Denver and in the NFL record Books ...... But thats your take and your Opinion ....... All I can do is bring the facts ......

[RichardBradley]

What facts? Facts are that with a torn ACL Willis still went in the first round..... Argue that fact?

[Spider]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
What facts? Facts are that with a torn ACL Willis still went in the first round..... Argue that fact?
the Only fact that Matters is Portis was in the NFL , Willis wasnt ...
Portis is one of 3 Backs in the NFL History to get 3000+ in his first 2 years .........
Butch Davis his old Coach Past over Portis in the Draft , took Green , we all seen how that has worked so far ........
So here is the only fact we have in front of us .....
What has Willis and Gore done in the NFL ?
What has Portis done ?
.I rest my case ... Next

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
What facts? Facts are that with a torn ACL Willis still went in the first round..... Argue that fact?

That is nothing more than questionable judgement at this point.

You are acting like Portis hasn't put up 3000 yards in what basically amounts to 26 NFL games and a better than 1:1 ration on TD's to games played.

Argue this fact. What has Willis McGahee accomplished in the NFL? Should we trade Champ to the Bills straight up for McGahee? That would be ludicrous.

[Skinzaholic]

I think this being a superstar swap is going to make people nervous no matter WHO is involved. It is rare in the NFL for this to happen. Really there is no way to forsee the positives or negatives of this type of trade... atleast until next season.

[dj_stouty]

Originally posted by robert
Argue this fact. What has Willis McGahee accomplished in the NFL? Should we trade Champ to the Bills straight up for McGahee? That would be ludicrous.

Richard would probably prefer this since McGahee was a 1st rounder and Portis was only a 2nd rounder. :rolleyes:

[RichardBradley]

What do you mean next you even said that his ex coach passed on him because he didn't think he was that good. Alot of backs have come into the nfl and looked good for a year or two .... Especially alot of back who play in denver

[RichardBradley]

McGahee will be a better back in the long run....

[Spider]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
What do you mean next you even said that his ex coach passed on him because he didn't think he was that good. Alot of backs have come into the nfl and looked good for a year or two .... Especially alot of back who play in denver
Exactly Butch Davis past over Portis , and took Green ..... And how has that worked out ?
Now could the same thing Happened in Miami ?
i think so . either way . Portis has 2 Years in the NFL is under 23 and Already in the Record Books , those 2 Guys you said ran portis out of Town has done what ?

[dj_stouty]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
McGahee will be a better back in the long run....

I'm writing this one down...

[Spider]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
McGahee will be a better back in the long run....
Thats what I call Clinging to hope ..... I went through it over TD ........

[RichardBradley]

Originally posted by Spider
Exactly Butch Davis past over Portis , and took Green ..... And how has that worked out ?
Now could the same thing Happened in Miami ?
i think so . either way . Portis has 2 Years in the NFL is under 23 and Already in the Record Books , those 2 Guys you said ran portis out of Town has done what ?



One went to Buffalo in the first round and the other is still at Miami.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
McGahee will be a better back in the long run....

WOW!!!!!:eek:

[Spider]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
One went to Buffalo in the first round and the other is still at Miami.
And what ? or is that all you have to say ?
Portis is in the NFL record Book 2 years to do it ....... and you come back with that ..... Like I said Next .................

[RichardBradley]

write is down.. I ain't going anywhere.

[RichardBradley]

Originally posted by Spider
And what ? or is that all you have to say ?
Portis is in the NFL record Book 2 years to do it ....... and you come back with that ..... Like I said Next .................




Let me ask you this if Porttis is so irraplaceable then why are you guys letting him leave?

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
McGahee will be a better back in the long run....

He's got some catching up to do and a tough first 2 years to duplicate, unless you plan on grading him on a curve.

[Spider]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
Let me ask you this if Porttis is so irraplaceable then why are you guys letting him leave?
#1 portis went out of house about Contract woes ......
#2 Rosenhouse ,When Portis hired him , that pretty Well sealed Portis fate with Shanny ......
Denver Broncos Club house is Split over this .....
Bronco fans everywhere are in shock ..... you want to talk about Shock and Awe ...... Should have seen Bronco fan Sunday ...... As one other Poster on this thread stated , we was depressed .....

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
Let me ask you this if Porttis is so irraplaceable then why are you guys letting him leave?

If you want to trade for a superstar, then you have to be willing to part with one. Bailey has been franchised....he isn't going to come cheap.

[RichardBradley]

Well I feel the same way about looseing Champ and again I never said Porttis isn't a good play ask anyone on this board how I feel about my Hurricanes. But the bottom like is this trade could end up for us like when Minnesota gave up to much for Hershell or when New Orleans gave up to much for Rickey.

[MannOnTop]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
plenty of good friend over there, Spider who has been posting here lately, bunch of good guys, but man, are they ever depressed. :D
Depressed? Why? They are getting Bailey and our 2nd rounder. Plus, all i hear from those Bronco fans is that they can plug any RB in their system and be successful. I guess their true feelings come out on their message board. (That's more of a joke. I was impressed with the way Bronco fans represented themselves here during this trade.)

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
One went to Buffalo in the first round and the other is still at Miami.

What did Al Gore achieve at Miami this past season?

[RichardBradley]

Originally posted by robert
What did Al Gore achieve at Miami this past season?


He tore his acl...... Miami had no qb last year so teams stacked the box and Gore tore his acl in the 4th game.. He sis pretty much beat Florida by himself though

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
Well I feel the same way about looseing Champ and again I never said Porttis isn't a good play ask anyone on this board how I feel about my Hurricanes. But the bottom like is this trade could end up for us like when Minnesota gave up to much for Hershell or when New Orleans gave up to much for Rickey.

We are not giving up nearly as much as Minnesota did for Herschel Walker. They gave up something like 6 draft picks and 7 players or vice versa and although the trade didn't work out for New Orleans, I don't think anyone in Miami is complaining about Ricky Williams productivity.

You can't blame Ricky for Mike Ditka going off the deep end.

[RichardBradley]

No but I am saying that Running Backs aren't always the answer to your problems either




http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=120142

[IowaSkinsFan]

I can't believe I am going to say this, but I am. In all fairness to Portis, it's not really fair to judge him because he didn't get PT at Miami. They are not really a college team, closer to unpaid professionals. The competition that Portis faced at RB there was more stacked than he will see on most NFL teams.

Wow, I feel sick............

[RichardBradley]

I am not blameing Portis for any of this I like him as a player I am saying we are giving up to much for him that is all

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
He tore his acl...... Miami had no qb last year so teams stacked the box and Gore tore his acl in the 4th game.. He sis pretty much beat Florida by himself though

Do all starting Hurricane RB's have a problem staying healthy? McGahee, Gore......didn't Payton have injury problems in his career there?

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
I am not blameing Portis for any of this I like him as a player I am saying we are giving up to much for him that is all

What if it was Bailey for Portis, straight up?

[RichardBradley]

I personally still think it is to much... With the trade the jets are offering we get three starters. Didn't Gibbs say we needed more blue collar players? The he goes out and signs the next Michael Irvin

[Spider]

Originally posted by robert


You can't blame Ricky for Mike Ditka going off the deep end.
LMMFAO .Excellent crack back ..............

[IowaSkinsFan]

He was a cane, wasn't he? You can be confusing at times, RB!

[rskinsfan10]

The Jets deal involves multiple players whose contracts are up after this year. That could prove very costly in the long run.

[RichardBradley]

Originally posted by robert
He was a cane, wasn't he? You can be confusing at times, RB!

who was a Cane.

[RichardBradley]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
The Jets deal involves multiple players whose contracts are up after this year. That could prove very costly in the long run.


Porttis will cost more than those 3 will cost

[PennSkinsFan]

Bills Zone (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?threadid=39540)

Guys at BillsZone are stunned Denver is doing this....

BTW, hR tailgaters, our good friend pa_elwayfan is not a happy camper right now. He is one of those Bronco fans ready to hang himself.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by Spider
LMMFAO .Excellent crack back ..............

Spider, I am liking you more and more with each post!

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
Porttis will cost more than those 3 will cost

How can you determine this at this stage?

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
who was a Cane.

Irvin!

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
Bills Zone (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?threadid=39540)

Guys at BillsZone are stunned Denver is doing this....

BTW, hR tailgaters, our good friend pa_elwayfan is not a happy camper right now. He is one of those Bronco fans ready to hang himself.

I was wondering how Greg was doing with all of this. :D

[RichardBradley]

Irvin was a cane what I meant is Porttis is anything but blue collar he is loud and flash like Irvin

[RichardBradley]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
How can you determine this at this stage?


Early reports are that Porttis has already turned down 55 million... Shawn Ellis Anthony Bect and Lamont Jordan will not make that much in their careers

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
Bills Zone (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?threadid=39540)

Guys at BillsZone are stunned Denver is doing this....

BTW, hR tailgaters, our good friend pa_elwayfan is not a happy camper right now. He is one of those Bronco fans ready to hang himself.

Did you read that guy's signature from Billszone? talk about hate!

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
Early reports are that Porttis has already turned down 55 million... Shawn Ellis Anthony Bect and Lamont Jordan will not make that much in their careers

Nor would they come close to the impact a Portis can have on an offense

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
Early reports are that Porttis has already turned down 55 million... Shawn Ellis Anthony Bect and Lamont Jordan will not make that much in their careers

I would just as soon avoid Jordan and take one of their picks.

[RichardBradley]

Probably not but one day Snyder will figure out that depth and chemistry mean something to a football team

[Spider]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
Bills Zone (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?threadid=39540)

Guys at BillsZone are stunned Denver is doing this....

BTW, hR tailgaters, our good friend pa_elwayfan is not a happy camper right now. He is one of those Bronco fans ready to hang himself.
well you just ruined my day all over again ;)
I tried to cut my wrist last night with an electric razor ..... Didnt have much luck but man I got some smooth wrist ...... :D
It is times like this that you need a sence of Humor ....... For those that dont have one I present this

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by robert
Did you read that guy's signature from Billszone? talk about hate!

Life is too short for someone to be that wrapped up in allegiences to a football team.

[IowaSkinsFan]

That is friggin sweet Spider, Mike should like that one.

[VTSkins897]

portis out? hang yourselves now!!

[Spider]

:D Somthing tells me this could be a reality ........

[MannOnTop]

My favorite excerpt from the Bills message board:
"I've heard Bailey is a real team player and is highly regarded by his teammates."
Goes to show you how little other teams fans know about someone else's players. Bailey a "real team player"? LMAO He doesn't seem like much of a team player after this fiasco w/his contract.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by Spider
:D Somthing tells me this could be a reality ........ :D

[joeisgod]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
What facts? Facts are that with a torn ACL Willis still went in the first round..... Argue that fact?


Willis went in the first round becuase the bills were less then smart on there pick. he probably won't even play next year becuase travis henry is a much better back. but then again i may be wrong

[lavarkills]

can we get daryl gardner back too broncos?