Our 5th Pick!!

[Skinsfan1906]

We are starting to hear that Gibbs is interested in trading down to get more picks. What do you guys think? Should we just hold on to the 5th pick and get a bonafide stud, or should we trade down (as deep as this draft is) and get a couple of possible studs? Does it depend on what round(s) these "additional" picks are in. Does it depend on how many picks we can get for the 5th? I'm kinda torn on this one (because I really want Sean Taylor). :rolleyes: Thoughts.......

[Patrick]

This draft has impact players all the way into middle of the second round. Trading down is the way I'd go IF I can get two picks in the top 50 still.

[Texas Skin]

Well we had to expect this would definetly happen after we heard the deal on the Portis trade. We have number 5 overall and the only other pick we have is in the fifth round. You had to have known that we will likely trade down some to pick up more picks. Probably a move like the 2002 drafting down a couple of times and then drafting Ramsey late in the first and getting additional later round picks along the way. I too would rather go after Taylor but maybe they'll go down just a little bit and draft a DT instead. The addition of Mike Williams to the draft gives a lot of allure to our 1st round pick plus it moves a lot of players down one projected selection each.

[joeisgod]

Originally posted by Patrick
This draft has impact players all the way into middle of the second round. Trading down is the way I'd go IF I can get two picks in the top 50 still.

i disagree we should keep the pick and draft a real stud possibly sean taylor and then trade gardner to get more picks

[J-Rod]

Gardner isn't worth too much this year IMO. THe draft has a boatload of talent at the WR spot and he really didn't show anything special last year. I figure a third or fourth at best. Go ahead, trade the 5 and recoup some losses. I think the second strongest and deepest position in the draft is DL. I think we will see a lot of outstanding D-lineman come out of this draft so why not trade down and take advantage of it?

[goterps1986]

Have to use the pick!! There are about 7-8 can't miss impact players in this draft according to Kiper and the experts. There is a dropoff after those guys. We were lucky the way things fell the last week of the season with the bad teams upsetting others and winning tiebreakers. Don't give it away now. Hopefully we won't be picking at 5 again for a long time so you have to use it. I say take Taylor. He can help make up for the loss of Bailey and make some plays back there. There is a reason everyone wants to trade up and get the guy! I would even settle for Winslow. We need DL but I think they are too hit or miss and Danny will sign some in free agency anyway.

[Patrick]

Looking at the teams that probably would want to trade up to get Taylor - YEAH I would too, because I just made it to the playoffs this year and maybe this "ONE" players is the difference of making it or winning the SuperBowl. ............... BUT the SKINS are NOT in that position of one player making a difference. We need several good players......... IMO and things play out the way we have been told through the media we are still six good players shy on defense and one or two on offense AND a punter.

[akhhorus]

From Gbnreport.com
"Fifth pick up for sale...Speaking of Washington, and its hard not to talk about the Redskins during the off-season these days, the team has let it be known that they would be willing to deal the #5 pick overall at the 2004 draft for a package of lower picks. If the Bailey-Portis deal goes through the Redskins will be left with just two picks at this years' draft - they only had three last spring - and would like to recoup some of those selections."

[SkinsCT]

No way, I say draft a stud at #5 (Taylor, Winslow, Harris, or Udeze), rebuild our line through FA, and stop trading away our draft picks next year!

[JakeIron]

We need to use our 5th pick unless Taylor and Udeze are already taken. If the Giants or Cards trade down and Taylor gets pick I think we should try to trade down and draft a DT later in the first. But if Taylor is still on the market DRAFT him, he is the playmaker. Could someone please tell me what the abbreviation IMO means since I don't speak english very well.

[J-Rod]

IMO = In My Opinion

[TexSkin]

I think the Pats are our best bet...we could get 2 #1's from them.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

But who do you think the would draft with the 5th overall?

[J-Rod]

I still think that the top four is set: Manning, Roethlisberger, Fitzgerald, and Gallery. They fit the need spots for the respective teams. NE would love to get their hands on Mike WIlliams.

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by TexSkin
I think the Pats are our best bet...we could get 2 #1's from them.

according to GBNreport and PFW, the Pats would offer a #2 as well

[Patrick]

Originally posted by akhhorus
according to GBNreport and PFW, the Pats would offer a #2 as well

IF that is truly the case, we get two players in the top 32 and a 64th. I'm sorry, but I'd snatch that right up.

[Patrick]

And now I'm beginning to understand why Gibbs was spending alot of time with Ball (UCLA).

[Skinsfan1906]

Once again, it seems as though we are holding the cards.....and that can't be a bad thing. Either way, I think that we are in a good position. The 5th overall pick is not bad if we use it.....but we can also look for the best package aswell. It would be nice if someone drafting around 7 or 8 might want to move up SOOOO Bad (and leap frog the guy in front of them), that they might throw in a 2nd rounder. We then could still have a draft pick in the "top 10" and still get another low 2nd rounder. Wishfull thinking on my part???

[TexSkin]

Originally posted by Patrick
And now I'm beginning to understand why Gibbs was spending alot of time with Ball (UCLA).
Can you elaborate..I am not familiar with college players

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I think it's just too good to be true. But if that's the case, let's go for it. Even though I would love to have Sean Taylor knocking down Antonio Bryant and Galloway/Johnson.

[dj_stouty]

Ball is a DE from UCLA who is expected to be drafted in the early 2nd round.

Aside from that info, I wasn't aware that Gibbs was talking to him.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Originally posted by Skinsfan1906
Once again, it seems as though we are holding the cards.....and that can't be a bad thing. Either way, I think that we are in a good position. The 5th overall pick is not bad if we use it.....but we can also look for the best package aswell. It would be nice if someone drafting around 7 or 8 might want to move up SOOOO Bad (and leap frog the guy in front of them), that they might throw in a 2nd rounder. We then could still have a draft pick in the "top 10" and still get another low 2nd rounder. Wishfull thinking on my part???

That would be really nice. I would like somebody to move up to grab Mike Williams, so we could maybe still get Sean Taylor (like the Dallas-Roy Williams thing), but I'm sure the Lions wouldn't pass on him.

[Skinsfan1906]

Originally posted by joeisgod
i disagree we should keep the pick and draft a real stud possibly sean taylor and then trade gardner to get more picks

Yeah, I kinda agree with you on this one. If possible, I would love to take Sean Taylor with that 5th pick and trade some of the perceived dead wood on the team. I do believe that Gardner is worth at least a 3rd round pick. We could also get something for Ladell Betts or Trung Canidate. How about Iffy Ohalete. If we had Taylor, we could afford to let iffy go. That top 5 pick will get a definite STUD IMO (who will have an impact for years to come). Once we get lower than 15th...............our prayer life would then have to take over.:D

[MrWiggles]

Originally posted by akhhorus
according to GBNreport and PFW, the Pats would offer a #2 as well

Two #1's and a #2 for the #5 overal ... sounds like a great deal to me. I hate to trade the opportunity to draft Taylor, but two additional picks in the first two rounds of a draft this deep is too good to pass up.

[JakeIron]

I also would definately make this trade but I think the pats are too smart not to make it happen. And an another thing, who do you think we could get at 21 or 32? Also letting Taylor slip away is a thing we might regret the next 15 years.

[SkinsKY]

Turning one pick into three would be great. I think a lot of what we do will also be contingent on what we can do in FA. If we fill a lot of holes, Gibbs may opt to use it. If we still have a few holes, he may trade down. If we don't use the pick, I would like to trade our first and Gardner for their first four picks or maybe their first three and a 2005 conditional 2nd that could potentially be a first.

[PennSkinsFan]

I agree with Patrick here. This is no even a question IMO, we are tarding away our 2dn and 3rd we need additional early picks, and we will get them trading down. Patrick's thinking is right online with mine. If we were one player away, you stay, but we are not, so you shoudln't. Trade down, pick up picks, and rebuidl the defensive line with a mix of young vets (FA) and rookies (Draft)

[lsuredskin]

There always seems to be a lot of talk about trading Gardner for picks. Who would want him? This is the deepest draft ever for wr's, so why would you want to trade a pick when you could get someone just as good or perhaps better in the 4th round that would be cheaper. I just don't think Gardner has played well enough to get value for him.

[RichardBradley]

I feel we need to keep the pick and take Taylor or Winslow.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I agree if the pick is going for Taylor.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I think we should trade Ohalete or get a compensation if someone attempts to sign him. And then keep our 5th overall and draft Sean Taylor.

[NCskinsfanatic]

I would love to have Taylor but I really think we will trade down.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Originally posted by NCskinsfanatic
I would love to have Taylor but I really think we will trade down.

Yeah, I think the same. I hope we don't regret about this in a couple of years..... or months.

[truant]

Taylor or trade down.

Both scenarios are ok with me. Taylor is as close to a sure thing as you can have, so they better not blow late first or second round picks.

[Skin_Finatic]

I WANT TAYLOR!!!!

[skinsfaninCT]

IMO i dont think Taylor is going to be there at the 5th pick, i like the tought of getting the Pats 2 #1 and a second.

[skinswin'emALL]

Originally posted by Skin_Finatic
I WANT TAYLOR!!!!

If we adress DE, DT and TE in FA, we will get Taylor.

[GloryHog]

Originally posted by skinswin'emALL
If we adress DE, DT and TE in FA, we will get Taylor.

We'll need a cornerback to. Taylor can only play one position.

[Skinsfan1906]

Yeah but look at it this way. Could you imagine if we got Kearse and had him on our DLine, LaVar at LB and TAYLOR in our DB. MAN THAT IS 3 STUDS........one up front, one in the middle and one back deep. With Smoot as one of our corners, you mean to tell me that we can't fill some holes here and there through free agency and have a killa defense??? I dunno, but the tri-fecta of Kearse, Arrington & Taylor sounds good to me......althouth the New England offer might be cool also.