Anyone a fan of the Sapronos here? [Archive]

WackyJacky

03-08-2004, 11:03 AM

Love the show, hate waiting so long between seasons.

Last night's show was great. I really like the fact that Steve Buscemi is going to be on -- he's so much fun to watch.

It was hilarious how Chris and Paulie re-bonded after killing that poor waiter! There's nothing like a senseless murder to bring people closer together. :p

Hey, I heard this is the last season. Is this true? :( I hope not!

Patrick

03-08-2004, 12:00 PM

Never have had a chance to see it - heard alot about it. Sounds like one of the main characters gets wacked each season. Even have odds in Vegas who it will be. ......... Cool!

TexSkin

03-08-2004, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by 74verona
Love the show, hate waiting so long between seasons.

Last night's show was great. I really like the fact that Steve Buscemi is going to be on -- he's so much fun to watch.

It was hilarious how Chris and Paulie re-bonded after killing that poor waiter! There's nothing like a senseless murder to bring people closer together. :p

Hey, I heard this is the last season. Is this true? :( I hope not!

Nope they already started filming the 6th season...further then that who knows.

As for who gets whacked next...I would say Chris hot girlfriend might be next...squealing to the feds is sure fire way to get wacked. Ask Big P. :D

Minnesota Mike

03-09-2004, 01:23 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that either Chris or Paulie won't make it to the end of this season. I don't beleive that little "kiss and make up" scene was the end of it for them.

GolfFreak

03-09-2004, 02:10 PM

I've been waiting to view this thread until after I watched the episode. I LOVE the Sporanos. I wonder if Furio will come back this season ... that'd be an interesting story to tie up. Remember the episode where he could've pushed Tony into the helicopter blade - that'd be a good way for Furio to go.

Anway - I'm really looking forward to this season. I wonder if Tony would've shot that bear - given his love for animals.

WackyJacky

03-09-2004, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by Minnesota Mike
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that either Chris or Paulie won't make it to the end of this season. I don't beleive that little "kiss and make up" scene was the end of it for them. I hadn't thought of that. You might be right. Personally I hope it's Paulie 'cause he's been getting on my nerves. And that hair...!

TexSkin

03-09-2004, 03:39 PM

No one gets on my nerves more then Janice...I hope she gets hers before the series ends.

Spence

03-09-2004, 03:52 PM

thickskin

03-16-2004, 01:22 AM

i see the rusky chris and paulie shot in the head coming back and offing one of them. seems too open ended with him just disappearing like that, plus they mentioned him in this season's first episode. then again, the fact that there's another season in the works would lead you to believe not many of the main characters get wacked this season.

IowaSkinsFan

03-16-2004, 02:40 AM

I don't have HBO, so I never got into this show.

GolfFreak

03-16-2004, 06:56 AM

I really thought Adriana was going to tell the other women about the FBI thing ... that story line is going to be interesting. I wonder if we've seen the last of Dr. Melfy (sp?) ... it'd be something if her and Tony got involved.

Minnesota Mike

03-16-2004, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by thickskin
i see the rusky chris and paulie shot in the head coming back and offing one of them. seems too open ended with him just disappearing like that, plus they mentioned him in this season's first episode. then again, the fact that there's another season in the works would lead you to believe not many of the main characters get wacked this season.

I saw an interview with the producer of the show. He said the Russian is gone. He's not coming back. That story is over.

I was very dissapointed in that. I want that open item resolved, and it irritates me (like a nasty itch) that it won't be resolved.

hail2skins

03-16-2004, 09:00 AM

Great show.

I agree with just about all the comments above. I don't Adrianna is going to make it.

I wanna be an orderly. Tony's face was funny after hearing that.

TexSkin

03-16-2004, 09:16 AM

Steve Buscemi is lying to Tony...I think he is involved in mob affairs but not with Tony. He kinda hinted that Tony should have gone away just like him. Then when tony got him a job as a delivery guy the onwer calls tony saying he was missing and that he was gonna fire him. Also the new guy the old man) passed him a envelope full of money. I think those 2 hatched something up when they were in prison.

WackyJacky

03-17-2004, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by TexSkin
I think those 2 hatched something up when they were in prison. I bet you're right!

(Man, Buscemi looked hilarious in that Miami Vice suit!)

Bushman

03-18-2004, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by Minnesota Mike
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that either Chris or Paulie won't make it to the end of this season. I don't beleive that little "kiss and make up" scene was the end of it for them.

I'm with ya', Mike! I think it's gonna be Paulie because he seems to be ticking a lot of people off recently, and it looks like he and Feech are gonna throw down on this week's episode.

NamVet4

03-23-2004, 11:00 AM

Well, Uncle Junior going around the bend was expected . . .
Now - it looks like Paulie and Feech are ready to "get it on"
And Tony and his Triumvirate idea is going to have that come back and bite him in butt!!!!
Not a bad episode . . .
Your thoughts ? ? ?

TexSkin

03-23-2004, 11:37 AM

I think someone is gonna get smoked next episode. I just have a feeling because of everything they set up this week.

Bushman

03-23-2004, 11:46 AM

Paulie's quote "The guy jumped out of a tree and attacked me with a chainsaw. I had to defend myself," is one of the better lines in the histroy of the series!

Wild speculation here... I think the revelation that Christopher isn't really Tony's nephew is important. If Feech and Tony (Buscemi) knew about this, is it possible they would try to recruit Chris into their group? Chris hates Paulie and is frustrated at not moving up the ladder quick enough. That could lead him to do something to change that.

Like I said, wild speculation on my part...

Guess I really need to find some other stuff to do in my spare time:smash:

TexSkin

03-29-2004, 09:17 AM

Looks like someone gets whacked next week. It almost looks like its Christophr...no it cant be..can it?

Spence

03-29-2004, 10:25 AM

Tex, where did you get that info? I understood a "major" character was going to be killed on Sunday, but it didn't happen. Where did you hear about it happening this coming Sunday?

NamVet4

03-29-2004, 10:30 AM

"Feech" is back to the big house.... Tony seemed a little upset, NOT!
Looks like there will be a major whacking next week .....
Maybe Johnny Sack gets popped for knocking off the "numbers broad" . . .and little Carmine consolidates the NY mob !!!!
Just a thought . . .

Bushman

03-29-2004, 10:31 AM

The preview for next week's episode showed Tony and several of the crew surrounding a guy in a field, and Tony had a gun to the person's head. The boss only whacks somebody when it's extremely personal (at least as I understand the mafia handbook), so it should be interesting.

I thought the character to get whacked this past week would be Feech. Nice move from Silvio to get Tony to change his mind. I get to like Silvio more and more, much better than Paulie...

Spence

03-29-2004, 10:31 AM

I thought a "major" character was supposed to be knocked off. Is Johnny Sack a "major" character. I mean, I know his character is a big player, but I wouldn't consider him a major character in the show. I'm thinking more along the lines of Christopher or Adrianna or Paulie Walnuts.

Minnesota Mike

03-29-2004, 10:40 AM

I renew my prediction that either Christopher or Paulie won't survive the season. I don't know about next week though. Things are obviously heating up with Adrianna's problems.

Tony might not, but I'm going to miss Feetch. I thought he was great!

TexSkin

03-29-2004, 11:00 AM

I get most of my Sopranos info from Aint it cool news
Man on man is this show heating and now I am starting to like the show that follows it. Deadwood.

Spence

03-29-2004, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by Bushman
I thought the character to get whacked this past week would be Feech. Nice move from Silvio to get Tony to change his mind. I get to like Silvio more and more, much better than Paulie... They are both cold-blooded killers, but Silvio is less of a psycho than Paulie. I think Paulie enjoys killing people, while Silvio regards it as just part of the job.

WackyJacky

03-29-2004, 11:53 AM

I guess you all caught the cameos at the poker table by Lawrence Taylor and David Lee Roth (who gets uglier every time I see him).

Loved the way they solved the Feech situation!

I think Adrianna is going to bite it pretty soon. I was almost wondering if that's who is going to get it in the next episode, but on second thought, I think they'll drag her storyline out a little bit longer.

Every time I see Silvio, I have to remind myself that he's Little Steven from Springsteen's E-Street Band. What a transformation!

GolfFreak

03-29-2004, 12:32 PM

I can't wait until next Sunday ... I need to know who Tony wacks. I really hope it's not Christopher, but the previews make me think it's him. Especially after they showed him standing over "the person" with a gun to his head, and next you hear Tony talking to Adrianna ...

TexSkin

03-29-2004, 01:17 PM

You have no idea how bad some of my co-workers want to see next sundays episode....this show is really a cut above most trash thats out on TV right now...cough...looking your way reality TV..cough. ;)

Bushman

03-29-2004, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by TexSkin
...looking your way reality TV..cough. ;)

You mean Sopranos isn't based on reality? :D

hail2skins

03-29-2004, 11:01 PM

I think it's Chris as well. I do like how they handled Feech. Chris is screwing up really bad and I like Paulie.

Minnesota Mike

03-30-2004, 09:48 AM

I wonder if Feetch had anything to do with this:

turf war (http://www.newsday.com/news/yahoo/nyc-ice0330,0,4407845.story?coll=ny-newsaol-headlines)

RedskinsDave

04-11-2004, 09:04 PM

Too much Carmela. This episode stunk.

hail2skins

04-11-2004, 09:27 PM

I agree, this episode was a bad one.

RedskinsVision

04-12-2004, 01:56 AM

errr.. they just had to throw in the Koreans this time around didn't they?.. besides the dog joke from Chris (an old and tiresome subject but actually got a chuckle outta me this time considering i'm korean.. i guess only italians can do this) it wasn't that bad until the end when Tony B. goes off on Kim (who's not only trying to help him but actually get a business started for him).. i know Tony just blew away the $12,000 he found and was having a blast and found out what lifestyle he was missing out from.. but come on! all season he's been vehemently telling everyone he was going legit and that his dream was to become a massage therapist.. and in this episode he got a great sponsor in Kim to open up a business w/ him AND passed his license (he even shed a tear which showed how much this meant) but all of a sudden he realizes this whole thing is not worth it just 3 days b4 the stores bout to open? Badly written and not one of the better episodes.. i know its about the mafia lifestyle and i knew Tony B. would eventually get back into it.. but to do it this way was poorly scripted (and made koreans look bad in doing so for no reason).. owell.. Sopranos is still my favorite show by far since i don't watch any other shows (thank god).. but this year have been a bit weak.. hopefully it gets better as the year goes on.

Bushman

04-12-2004, 06:40 AM

We need more whackings!

I agree it was a pretty choppy episode. Why the sudden htared from AJ toward Tony? They were fine last week bit now he's throwing the kid against the wall? Everything seems either too rushed or too drawn out, depending on the storyline. However, it was nice to see Carmela be given the "what fer" last night by the teacher. :)

It looks like next week's episode they start getting into problems w/ the New York family, which is what I've been waiting for since Carmine died.

GolfFreak

04-12-2004, 06:45 AM

I thought it was interesting that Chris and his woman were buddy-buddy again. Kind of fast if you ask me, but oh well. I kept wondering if somehow Tony was involved w/ the other Tony passing his exam, but that never played out. Nexts weeks episdoe looks good - I'd like to see more w/ litte Carmine ...

On another note - Deadwood was really good ... but that's another thread.

Minnesota Mike

04-12-2004, 08:34 AM

errr.. they just had to throw in the Koreans this time around didn't they?..

(and made koreans look bad in doing so for no reason)..

I don't think it made the Koreans look bad. I thought it made the Italians look bad.

WackyJacky

04-12-2004, 08:41 AM

Chris, Adriana, and Tony sort of patched things up by the end of the last episode, so I wasn't surprised to see the two of them together.

I agree this episode wasn't one of their best. It didn't feel real when Tony B blew his cool and beat up Kim. (I was worried for a sec, though, that he was gonna kill him.) I think it would have flowed better if they had given it another episode or two to show him being lured back to his old ways.

And though I like focusing a little more on Carmela, it was a little too much. (What was with her putting that gun under the pillow? In case Tony found out about her fling?)

Previews look good, though. Who was Tony chasing in his car?

WackyJacky

04-12-2004, 08:45 AM

I don't think it made the Koreans look bad. I thought it made the Italians look bad.Yeah, that's how it seemed to me, too.

RedskinsVision

04-12-2004, 10:49 AM

I don't think it made the Koreans look bad. I thought it made the Italians look bad.

thinking back I guess you guys have a good point.. the entire episode seemed like 3 episodes rushed into one with AJ and Tony all of a sudden not wanting to live together when all other episodes showed them having fun w/ the occasional father banter.. and then the Carmela fling.. they seemed to be head over heels over each other then all of a sudden he goes off accusing her of using him (and the scene where she puts the gun under the pillow where she's looking at Tony's pic made her look like she was more remorseful for cheating rather than fear that he'd come to kill her).. this episode was poorly conceived and poorly edited.. but next week seems like the real deal w/ Tony and Johnny Sacks crew butting heads.

GolfFreak

04-19-2004, 06:45 AM

Another OK show last night ... they make the previews look like something great is going to happen, but turns out to be nothing spectacular. Having Little Carmine in town should spice things up a bit.

NamVet4

04-19-2004, 07:53 AM

Slow episode last night (Apr 18) . . . The deal with Tony finding his father's girlfriend . . . too sloooooooooooowwwwwwwww! Uncle Junior was funny last night. . . Christopher and his "buddy" act was o.k. It's about time for somebody to get "offed" again . . .I think it's going to be one of John "Sachs" crew ? ? ?

Minnesota Mike

04-20-2004, 08:43 AM

The best thing about this week's episode was that not a word was spoken by Carmela, Meadow or AJ. I found Christopher's ability to keep business and personal seperate was pretty entertaining. How after beating the tar out of his buddy and forcing him into a downward spiral, he was able to help him seek treatment. That was great.

hail2skins

04-20-2004, 09:17 AM

I agree Mike something I didn't expect. I agree with Nam too, the Tony and father's girlfriend thing was just too slow.

RedskinsDave

04-20-2004, 09:19 AM

I don't get it. They have so many good plot lines laid out and they waste shows away with Carmela getting laid and his dad's mistress. Come on people, let's get on to the whacking folks already!!

TexSkin

04-20-2004, 01:06 PM

Looks like Tony B might side with the New York family next week.

RedskinsDave

04-20-2004, 01:14 PM

Nah that was just one of their teasers I bet.

TexSkin

04-20-2004, 01:15 PM

Nah that was just one of their teasers I bet.

Yeah they love to mess with us on the previews dont they. :doh:

Spence

04-20-2004, 01:51 PM

The thing with Tony and his father's mistress might have been a bit slow, but it was still important. Tony despises his mother and admires his father because it helps him deal with his own life. Essentially, he did to Carmella what Tony's father did to Tony's mother. That's why he won't hold his father responsible. If he did, he might have to hold himself responsible.

Minnesota Mike

04-20-2004, 02:26 PM

I kept waiting for something to happen with Fran and Tony. I was expecting either some kind of a scam - ie that wasn't really Fran or something like that, or that maybe Fran's son was Tony's half-brother. I suppose either could still happen.

Spence

04-20-2004, 02:45 PM

That scene where Fran sings "Happy birthday, Mr President" to Tony was very effective. Very creepy. Reminds me that the only thing as uncomfortable to watch on television as adolescent sexuality is senior citizen sexuality. Ugh.

TexSkin

04-20-2004, 03:40 PM

I liked at the end how he built her up as something super special to the guys.If it was me I would just have fun with the Badda Bing girls!! :D

Spence

04-20-2004, 04:26 PM

I liked at the end how he built her up as something super special to the guys.The more important she was to Kennedy, the more important his father looks in the eyes of Tony's colleagues. Another good job of demonstrating Tony's petty vanity and sad desire to impress people in even the silliest and smallest ways. Tony can't accept the truth: His father was a parasitic thug just like himself. Only his father was slightly less good at it.

NamVet4

04-21-2004, 08:03 AM

The more important she was to Kennedy, the more important his father looks in the eyes of Tony's colleagues. Another good job of demonstrating Tony's petty vanity and sad desire to impress people in even the silliest and smallest ways. Tony can't accept the truth: His father was a parasitic thug just like himself. Only his father was slightly less good at it.
Yoh Spence!!!. . .deep pyschological analysis . . .Fuhgettaboutit!!!! We needs more wackin' - More betrayal - not this pansy psychological mumbo jumbo - I wanna see somebody getting set up for the dirt nap!!!!

:D

Spence

04-21-2004, 08:07 AM

Yoh Spence!!!. . .deep pyschological analysis . . .Fuhgettaboutit!!!! We needs more wackin' - More betrayal - not this pansy psychological mumbo jumbo - I wanna see somebody getting set up for the dirt nap!!!!I know what you mean, Andrew, but the psych stuff is central to the show. Let's face it, Tony has spent more time with his shrink than with his wife. And even more amazing, he has spent more time with his shrink than with his mistresses.

TexSkin

04-21-2004, 11:06 AM

Bring back that russian chick he was dating...she was hot!!! And not the one legged one Spence! :D

NamVet4

04-21-2004, 12:12 PM

I know what you mean, Andrew, but the psych stuff is central to the show. Let's face it, Tony has spent more time with his shrink than with his wife. And even more amazing, he has spent more time with his shrink than with his mistresses.

Central, shmentral . . . I didn't see no psycho stuff in GoodFella's or Casino . . . DeNiro knows how to whack a guy ! ! ! Even after you Analyse This & That :goofy: :wacky:

Where's Big Pussy Bompensiero when you need him ? ? ? Oh, I forgot he sleeps with the fishes . . .

Spence

04-21-2004, 01:14 PM

Relax, Andrew. Paulie Walnuts is still around and we both know he can't go more than an episode or two without shooting someone in the head.

WackyJacky

04-22-2004, 06:26 PM

I missed the show Sunday and had to wait to catch it on the Wed. rerun, so now I can finally look at this thread! :)

Did anyone notice that Tony has the same tattoo as his dad?

I thought the storyline with Christopher and his recovering addict buddy was too funny! Drives the guy to rehab in the car he's taking from him. I had to laugh at that.

Another very slow episode, though.

Oh, almost time for Survivor...gotta go!

IllinoiSkinFan

04-23-2004, 01:07 PM

What this HBO you all keep talking about? :)

RedskinsVision

04-24-2004, 02:19 AM

WackyJacky

04-26-2004, 12:34 PM

Can anyone explain to me the motivation behind whacking that Joey guy last night? And why they wanted Tony B. to do it?

GolfFreak

04-26-2004, 12:39 PM

Joey was working for the NJ group lead by Johnny Sack. He was wacked by Little Carmine's group, but they wanted Tony to do it for them. The previews for next week show big Tony getting all upset because he didn't want his crew involved in the mess.

Also, Tony doing this job and the way he acted at the party should be an interesting story line. I don't like him much on the show anyway so I'd like to see him dead.

GolfFreak

04-26-2004, 12:40 PM

i think i know one regular character that will either be whacked or sent away on a witness protection program.. and that's Adriana! i've found out the girl that plays her will play Joey's sister (from Friends, Joey) in his new spinoff show this coming year. they've been building her story up all year w/ her ratting out to the FBI so this is a foregone conclusion. wouldn't it be weird if Chris whacked her?

I doubt Chris'll kill her, but that sure would be interesting. I knew she was doing a new show, but I thought I read that she wanted to do both - maybe that's just so the audience doesn't realize she's a gonner.

TexSkin

04-26-2004, 01:24 PM

I want to see Tony's son get whacked...that punk gets on my nerves.

RedskinsVision

04-26-2004, 02:03 PM

I want to see Tony's son get whacked...that punk gets on my nerves.

LOL.. at least he finished his mind-numbing drum session just in time to hear his grandfather fall off the roof. did u see his gf at the party? normally there'd be no way he could get a chick like that.. he's only cool cuz of his daddy.

now that Tony B. has put Tony S. right in the middle of this war i have a feeling Tony B. won't last long.. plus his character have gone from redemption back to his old roots so he no longer is an important character development.. just set up to start a war. i liked the quote Tony S. said on next week's preview, "what are you a FREE AGENT now?"

GolfFreak

05-03-2004, 10:00 AM

Another so-so episode last night. I thought there was too much between Meadow and her boy friend. Although I think it's hilarious that Fin is so scared of Vito and the rest of them. I wonder how the engagement will affect his "relationship" with Vito.

I'd prefer the Little Carmine vs. J. Sack line to play out quicker. I need more action!!!

The preview for next week is intriguing. Something between Chris and the other Tony.

WackyJacky

05-03-2004, 10:21 AM

The preview for next week is intriguing. Something between Chris and the other Tony.Definitely. I don't know if it'll happen next week, but those guys seem to be on a collision course. I don't blame Christopher for being jealous of Tony B.

Tony's therapy session was intense. I loved how he compared it to taking a...well, it rhymes with "spit".

TexSkin

05-03-2004, 01:43 PM

Oh man that was nasty when he caught him with the security guard. I want to see more of the Adriana and the feds story line.

GolfFreak

05-03-2004, 02:10 PM

Oh man that was nasty when he caught him with the security guard. I want to see more of the Adriana and the feds story line.

Sure was ... I thought he (Fin) was going in early to hook up w/ that girl he had lunch with. I wonder how this new story line will play out - maybe Vito kills this boyfriend like Tony killed off Meadow's other one.

Spence

05-03-2004, 02:41 PM

What I can't understand is why anyone with any knowledge of Meadow's father would even speak to her. I wouldn't want to even be in the same classes as her.

hail2skins

05-03-2004, 02:43 PM

Tony's therapy session was intense. I loved how he compared it to taking a...well, it rhymes with "spit".

I thought I'd never stop laughing after that comment. I was cracking up.

RedskinsVision

05-03-2004, 06:46 PM

finally the season's starting to pick up.. great episode. loved how Paulie made Fin go wash his car only to find out he was dating Meadow.. the look in his eyes like "holy crap Soprano!".. then Fin catching Vito performing male love on a security officer.. whats the deal w/ that?? is he just gay or was he paying back some favor? too much crying by Meadow.. she outta understand how her boy is so scared after the Vito incident. great acting by J. Sacks at Peeps funeral.. he looked like he was gonna kill everyone there! great lying job by Tony S. to settle things.. but now Chris is jealous of Tony B.. something's going down soon. and Adriana still talkin to the feds.. i'm sure she'll get whacked. Sacks will get revenge.. either by whacking Tony B. or the Carmine family. hilarious how Carmella can't find a divorce lawyer.. shows the power of the mafia. i see them making up somehow tho.. last week's pool scene and this week's last scene w/ Tony in the pool is a sign.

akhhorus

05-03-2004, 06:51 PM

It's starting to pick up, but this season has been disappointing, in my opinion. But you know Fin's getting whacked, and then Vito...

Spence

05-04-2004, 09:09 AM

Johnny Sack is going to find out about Tony S. lying to him. Then he'll assume that not only was Tony B. the killer [true], but that Tony S. was behind it all [false]. And Tony S. will have only himself to blame for that one.

The Fin character is good. He's kind of wimpy, but basically seems like a decent kid. His character is intended to remind us of the evil around him. We see almost everything on the show thru the eyes of the gangsters or the gangsters' families. Fin is a true outsider and his reaction to the casual violence he sees reminds us that it is not normal and the gangsters are not normal. Their violence is sadistic and pathological and the gangsters are parasites and monsters. It's a good reminder to have in the show.

You can see Meadow turning into her mother. That P.C. nonsense about how the gangsters are part of some great ethnic tradition is pathetic. More bloviating self-justification cow excrement from someone who does not take part in the atrocities herself, but benefits enormously from them.

GolfFreak

05-04-2004, 09:15 AM

My wife thinks that this last episode dealt so much w/ Meadow & Fin is to introduce us all to boyfriend #2 that gets killed off by the mob - this time not by daddy, but by Vito.

GolfFreak

05-14-2004, 03:17 PM

Last week was OK - I was expecting more between Fin and Vito, but oh well. I thought the whole trip between Chris and the other Tony was funny - how they picked on Chris ... what's w/ him crying - big baby.

I need more action though, I hope things pick up between Tony and J. Sack this week ... they need more killing!!!

hail2skins

05-14-2004, 03:19 PM

Yeah, for a minute there I thought Chris and Tony were going to become friends then that whole dinner table conversation was funny. Do you think he's headed out?

GolfFreak

05-14-2004, 03:20 PM

No, I think the other Tony will go before Chris.

Oh - I forgot about Tony getting his sister all worked up, that was really mean, but goes w/ his character. Maybe he should go to anger management.

RedskinsVision

05-14-2004, 04:59 PM

this episode was more psychological then anything. Chris was talking to Adriana b4 he left w/ Tony B. how they used to make fun of him when they were little.. that was a precursor to what was going to happen. And when Tony S. came and perpetuated the jokes it made Chris think back to the past and find out how young he really is and getting his balls busted will always be the case.. thats why he was crying in the car.. he felt like a kid again.. but it wasn't a vindictive crying it was a sad one.

Tony S. was actually jealous of his sister's success w/ anger management.. he knows he can't change and also saw his sister as the female version of himself with all the stresses and ordeals they both went through.. so it was hard on him to see her fighting herself and winning.. so he had to prove to himself and to her that no matter what management or therapy they're taking, it won't hide who they really are.

3 more episodes to go.. Johnny Sacks lying back to Tony about the scooters is indicative of a possible war coming.. Sacks knows Tony was lying about his cousin.. that's why Johnny put his cousin's name in there when he was talking about why the scooters didn't come in. pretty subtle but telling. we shall see what happens next boys.

akhhorus

05-16-2004, 09:08 PM

great episode just now...

hail2skins

05-16-2004, 09:13 PM

It was okay. Dragged on a little long for me with the Tony dream.

GolfFreak

05-17-2004, 07:46 AM

What the heck was that (the dream episode) - that was freaky!!! His dream lasted like 30 minutes. So who did Tony B kill? I'm assuming it was the two guys that killed the old man in the beginning of the show. Well, now things are heating up - but it sucks that there is only 2 more shows.

TexSkin

05-17-2004, 08:46 AM

sorry but I thought that was the worst episode from this seson so far. That whole dream thing dragged on waaaay to long.

GolfFreak

05-17-2004, 08:57 AM

sorry but I thought that was the worst episode from this seson so far. That whole dream thing dragged on waaaay to long.

I wouldn't go that far ... I thought it was pretty funny - the horse in the house, seeing all the old characters that are dead (like Big Pussy, Carmine, even the horse). It was definetly weird, but not my least favorite.

I still can't believe not has happened between Vito and Fin.

WackyJacky

05-17-2004, 09:16 AM

I thought the dream dragged on a bit too long. Was it Season 2 or 3 that had that big dream sequence at the end? That was a brilliant episode.

Anyway, I liked tonight's show. Didn't quite get the thing with the teeth. Anyone got any ideas about the symbolism of that? Did it just have to do with Fin's plans to be a dentist? That seems too obvious/simple. (I hate dentists, so the teeth thing kinda freaked me out!) Loved the cameo by Annette Benning (tap, tap, "Hey, you're Annette Benning!).

So Tony B whacked Phil's little brother, who I guess was the other guy in the car with him when they whacked what's-his-name who used to be on the Rockford Files. This sets up a lot of scenarios for the last 2 episodes. Tony will be forced to kill Tony B to try to appease Johnny Sack, but I don't know if that'll stop the war between the two families. Looks like the Adriana/FBI thing is going to heat up, too. Both of those storylines involve Christopher in a big way, so something big's gonna be happening with him.

I can't wait for the next 2 episodes, but I hate the fact that the season's almost over!

NamVet4

05-17-2004, 09:23 AM

Agreed . the dream sequence was too long . . . and frankly too many conflicts were attempted to be potrayed. Tony S is not a complicated human being, even though the writers would leave you to think so.
Overall, it was a so so episode IMHO.

Spence

05-17-2004, 09:46 AM

Pretty good episode. The dream sequence will probably look better to people after the next two episodes. I thought much of it was quite revealing.

akhhorus

05-17-2004, 09:51 AM

Pretty good episode. The dream sequence will probably look better to people after the next two episodes. I thought much of it was quite revealing.

if you paid attention to the dream sequence, i think it's pretty clear what will happen at the end.....

RedskinsVision

05-18-2004, 12:29 PM

i loved the dream episode.. it put Tony's life in a nutshell. i liked his former HS Football coach trying to advise him on going the right path and that he has leadership skills to lead a sports team.. the mafia's team will do. i liked him on his high horse inside the house.. and all the old compatriots he either killed or dead w/ Artie the only living person-friend in the car. his wife w/ all those ppl chasing him in the alley was priceless.. Tony was on the opposite end this time.. he felt her madness. it was fitting he called her at sunrise to ask her "is it light yet?" .. they're getting back together. i need to see it again to get it all. Tony B. has really started something now.. either he will go or Tony S. must take out Sack. interesting last 2 to come.

GolfFreak

05-18-2004, 12:39 PM

Tony B. has really started something now.. either he will go or Tony S. must take out Sack.

Taking out Johnny Sack would be a HUGE development ... I can't wait for Sunday.

GolfFreak

05-18-2004, 12:39 PM

if you paid attention to the dream sequence, i think it's pretty clear what will happen at the end.....

What's your theory?

akhhorus

05-18-2004, 12:49 PM

What's your theory?

Tony hanging out with the Dead....Annette Bening saying he is like "bugsy", Tony's getting whacked.

akhhorus

05-18-2004, 12:49 PM

Taking out Johnny Sack would be a HUGE development ... I can't wait for Sunday.

He's gonna take out Tony B., thats what I think

RedskinsDave

05-18-2004, 01:22 PM

That has to be it. If he doesn't whack TB, he may get taken out by one of Sacks guys.

GolfFreak

05-18-2004, 01:41 PM

Tony hanging out with the Dead....Annette Bening saying he is like "bugsy", Tony's getting whacked.

They wouldn't kill off Tony S ... no way! I see your point however about Tony B. I think if he's given the choice he'll obviously save himself.

TexSkin

05-18-2004, 02:07 PM

RedskinsVision

05-18-2004, 02:44 PM

I read up on dreams and some cultures believe that loosing teeth means you will lose a loved one soon. Hmmmm. ;)

losing teeth in Italian culture means your wife is/will be pregnant. i think Carmella (them sleeping together after her father's bday or from AJ's professor) is pregnant.

WackyJacky

05-18-2004, 02:50 PM

I read up on dreams and some cultures believe that loosing teeth means you will lose a loved one soon. Hmmmm. ;)Ah ha. That would fit in, then, with Tony B's death. (The whole thing with the teeth really gave me the heebie-jeebies.)

I don't think Tony Soprano is the one who's gonna get killed, primarily because they wouldn't have a show without him! James Gandolfini has become one of my favorite actors.

akhhorus

05-18-2004, 03:16 PM

Ah ha. That would fit in, then, with Tony B's death. (The whole thing with the teeth really gave me the heebie-jeebies.)

I don't think Tony Soprano is the one who's gonna get killed, primarily because they wouldn't have a show without him! James Gandolfini has become one of my favorite actors.

unless something changes soon, this is supposed to be the last season. David Chase is leaving and Gandolfini has said that he will not do the show without him.

WackyJacky

05-18-2004, 03:20 PM

NOOOOO!!!

Spence

05-18-2004, 03:57 PM

Actually, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Tony S. defend Tony B. During the "next week on the Sopranos" teaser, you hear Tony S. say: "Now we're even." So who does he say that to? Could it be Johnny Sack? If so, that means Tony B. is a dead man. But on the other hand, what if Tony S. said it to Tony B. That means Soprano intends to defend his cousin against Sack and, if necessary, go to war with New York. Why would he do something like that when it seems the wrong call to make?

Well, Tony S. frequently makes the wrong call. One thing that is clear is that Tony S. is haunted by what happened to Tony B. [prison] and his own role in it. If he defends Tony B. now, he evens the psychological score between the two of them. Not even Tony B. knows how tortured Tony S. is by the past, though me probably suspects more than anyone else. One thing hinted at in the dream sequence is how Tony is constantly haunted by his past and past misdeeds. Defending Tony B. now, even though it is not the right thing to do from a business standpoint [perhaps even BECAUSE it is not the right thing to do from a business standpoint] would be one way Tony S. could relieve himself of some of the psychological baggage he's been carrying around for decades.

WackyJacky

05-18-2004, 04:53 PM

I automatically assumed Tony S was talking to Johnny Sack. Hmmm...I like the story possibilities if it was Tony S talking to Tony B.

akhhorus

05-23-2004, 08:58 PM

WOW! Great episode and I didnt see that coming!

hail2skins

05-23-2004, 09:03 PM

Yes it was. Finally a good episode.

RedskinsDave

05-23-2004, 09:13 PM

It's really nice of them to take a week off while I'm in Vegas.

Spence

05-24-2004, 08:08 AM

Well, I trust no one will complain about that episode. Three big things happen:

1. Tony S. moves back in;
2. Tony S. goes to war with Johnny Sack;
3. Tony S. has Adriana murdered for co-operating with the FBI.

They really packed it in that episode. I was pleased to see Tony move back in because it confirms what I've always known abotu Carmella: That she's nothing more than a gold-digger with no morals outside her own marriage. And now, not even that. She and Tony truly deserve each other.

I figured Tony S. would go to war with Johnny Sack. Much better storyline that way. Watch Christopher, though. Everyone's going to assume he's pledged to Tony S. forever now, but I'm not so sure. I always thought he would choose Tony S. over Adriana because Christopher is a stupid wiseguy with no real talent outside of shooting people and taking orders. However, what really bothers Christopher is how little Tony S. appears to think of him. I think the possibility for trouble still exists there.

Spence

05-24-2004, 08:09 AM

It's really nice of them to take a week off while I'm in Vegas.I think they figure so many people will be away for Memorial Day that they need to put it off until a week after that.

TexSkin

05-24-2004, 08:26 AM

This is why I ike the Sheild more then the Sopranos. They take there time building up to major plot points and dont try and mesh them in 1 episode. Anway now that I am done with that rant, this was a good episode. I loved the part where Chrissy was in that parking lot and he carresed he expensive car then looked at the guy with 2 kids and his crappy car. It showed what kind of life Chrisy really wanted.

RedskinsDave

05-24-2004, 09:01 AM

I think they figure so many people will be away for Memorial Day that they need to put it off until a week after that.

No Tom, it's because of me.

Spence

05-24-2004, 09:59 AM

No Tom, it's because of me.You? Ha! It's because of me! I'll be boating off Long Island and they're doing it for me! You thinking they did it for you is pure egotism, Dave. They clearly did it for me!

akhhorus

05-24-2004, 10:19 AM

I liked who as Tony and Carm are getting back together, Chris and Adriana fell apart. Permanently.

Minnesota Mike

05-24-2004, 11:12 AM

I like how Tony told his wife that his infidelity would never confront her again. He didn't tell her that he would do it again.

I also laughed when Little Carmine asked how they got into this "stagmire". What a moron.

And then when Adrianna talked about how impressed she was that the Pakistani dude didn't take drugs, he just dealt. And he used the money to support a prep school for boys back in Pakistan. That was hilarious.

Spence

05-24-2004, 11:37 AM

That Pakistani thing was interesting. Adriana mentioned that the Pakistani dealer gives his drug profits to his family member who runs a "prep school." I'm sure that is a reference to a madrassa. A madrassa is a religious school where they teach nothing but the Koran to young Islamic boys. The Pakistani madrassas, built mostly with Saudi money in the 1980s and 1990s, are the breeding ground for Jihad International. Virtually all the foot soldiers in Islamic jihadist movements come out of madrassas, many of them from Pakistan. My guess is that next season will feature Tony S. getting mixed up, against his will, in some international terror plot.

Minnesota Mike

05-24-2004, 11:41 AM

The fact that she was "impressed" by this shows just how completely oblivious she was to real world out there beyond the four walls of the Crazy Horse.

NamVet4

05-24-2004, 01:03 PM

Christopher and Paulie Walnuts are not done with each other. I think Chris thinks it is all water under the bridge, but Paulie isn't that way. He's going to try to get rid of Christopher. That one is easy to see coming.

The new character played by Robert Loggia will eventually get into it with Tony. The new character played by Steve Buscemi will try to stay out of mob affairs, much to the annoyance of Tony.

Either Christopher or Adriana is not making it out of the season alive. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if one of them is gone sooner rather than later.
All hail the mighty seer Spence!! :honor:
He called it way early into the season - 03-09-2004, 04:52 PM
And it was an exciting episode. The part where Christoper looks at what he has and what he expects life to be like in the witness protection program was priceless! You knew that was dead giveaway that Adrianna was history !

And Tony B is not done, quite yet. That sack of $#!#, Johnny "Sac" has screwed up by trying to call out Tony S over his cousin. There is still some back line intrigue that has not been revealed. Good episode !

Spence

05-24-2004, 01:16 PM

Tony B. tried to stay out of mob affairs, but couldn't do it. What's funny is that it was jealousy which brought him back in. Jealousy over the rich life Tony S. and the other mobsters live, in comparison to himself. They had more toys and it made him sick so he started shooting people. Not very bright.

I never thought Tony B. would be handed over to Johnny Sack--for two reasons. One is that Tony S. is completely enslaved by his past and would try to avoid giving him up. The second is that Johnny Sack didn't really want Tony S. to give up his cousin. What Johnny Sack wanted was a war to wipe out Tony S. and he got it. You could see it in that scene last night, when Sack went out of his way to insult Tony S. And when Tony S. asked for assurances that Tony B. wouldn't be tortured to death, Sack could have just lied and said it would be quick and easy. That's all Tony S. was asking for, a convenient lie he could believe. But Sack refused to do it. He wanted to rub it Sopranos' face that his cousin would die excruciatingly. He wanted to provoke Soprano into a war. He got it.

Watch Christopher. I knew he'd never give up the mob for Adriana because Christopher doesn't really know anything else. He's too stupid to make the money he likes doing anything else. He might dream of writing scripts, but it's a joke and deep down he knows it. Christopher probably won't go over to the FBI, but I see him as a ripe target for Johnny Sack. The thing that really enrages Christopher is that Tony S. thinks little of him. He likes Christopher [sort of], but doesn't consider him a major player. He doesn't respect Christopher the way Christopher would like. And now that the Soprano family is going to war over Tony Blundetto, someone Christopher doesn't even like, I expect him to be even more bitter than ever. If Johnny Sack is smart, he'd try to suborn Christopher and use him against Tony S.

TexSkin

05-24-2004, 02:38 PM

NamVet4

05-24-2004, 03:14 PM

Nope they already started filming the 6th season...further then that who knows.

As for who gets whacked next...I would say Chris hot girlfriend might be next...squealing to the feds is sure fire way to get wacked. Ask Big P. :D
I must give equal and all credit to my Bro TexSkin for being a seer of the greatest magnitude ! :honor: All hail TexSkin !
He is absolutely correct in his assertion that he made the first prediction about Adriana getting knocked off - 03-08-2004, 02:59 PM !!!!

GolfFreak

05-25-2004, 07:03 AM

Well I've been waiting to view this thread since I didn't watch it until last night. I was absolutely shocked to see Aid get offed. And poor Sil had to do the job. I knew she was on a new sitcom, but I thought I read somewhere that she was going to do both shows (maybe that was said so it wouldn't ruin the ending of this season).

I was dissapointed that Carmine just gave up, I thought that story line would play out to a larger war between his group and Johnny Sack. However, we have a new war bruining between him and Tony.

I think Christopher is back in the "favorite" cousin role now that Tony B is about to be killed off. He may even get the casino job ...

On the Carmela front, I think the only reason she allowed him to move back in and accepted his lame ass confession (I won't do it again in front of you) was to get her little project up and running. I still think that Tony S's end will come at the hand of his wife.

Can't wait until the season finale.

Spence

05-25-2004, 08:11 AM

My favorite part of last night's episode was when Tony asks Christopher why he is once again late for a meeting, and Christopher answers, with a straight face, that the "highway's jammed with broken heroes, on a last-chance power drive." And Steve Van Zandt is sitting right there. A classic New Jersey moment.

Bushman

05-25-2004, 08:57 AM

Yep, Johnny Sack's been looking for a fight since Tony lied to him in that limo about Tony B.'s alibi.

The constant insults at the table, especially from Phil toward Tony, then Johnny threatening Christopher, it was too much.

I have to give it to Tony. He tried to appease Sack every which way possible, but when he realized it was no use, he said the hell with it. I think if he backed down again, he would have lost face w/ his own crew.

also nice to see that ice queen of an FBI agent almost show some emotion when she realized Adriana was gone...

NamVet4

05-25-2004, 10:06 AM

Minnesota Mike

05-25-2004, 01:42 PM

Cast members from the show presented the Top Ten List on Letterman last night. You can see it here"

Top Ten (http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/#)

Click on "Big Show Highlight".

RedskinsVision

05-25-2004, 06:35 PM

ROFL!! thank you for letting us non-late show watchers see this. :lol1:

Axegrinder

05-25-2004, 07:08 PM

Only when I wear tight underwear!

GolfFreak

05-26-2004, 06:46 AM

Top Ten Things Never Before Said on "The Sopranos"

10. "You don't have any money? That's cool"
(Dominic Chianese)

9. "Screw this home cooking -- I'm going to the Olive Garden"
(Aida Turturro)

8. "In addition to disposing of bodies, you'll need to know how to use Powerpoint and Excel"
(Steven Van Zandt)

7. "Wasn't that the guy from Springsteen's E Street Band?"
(Robert Iler)

6. "I just hooked up an illegal cable box. Now I'm getting free HBO"
(Jamie-Lynn Discala)

5. "Tony, I'm gonna need to leave early today for Rosh Hashanah"
(Tony Sirico)

4. "I want a bigger part -- what are you gonna do, kill my character?"
(Drea de Matteo)

3. "Hey Paulie, how about you and me going up to Massachusetts and getting married?"
(Michael Imperioli)

2. "I can't go to prison -- Martha Stewart will eat me alive!"
(Edie Falco)

1. "I just whacked myself"
(James Gandolfini)

akhhorus

06-06-2004, 08:58 PM

if it wasnt for that end, that was a pretty dull episode.

WackyJacky

06-06-2004, 08:59 PM

WHOOP! A great finale! Loved how it ended.

(Wouldn't it be a KILLER job to be the person who picks out the music for each show?)

WackyJacky

06-06-2004, 09:00 PM

Did anyone catch the continuity problem when they were talking to AJ in his room -- one minute his sleeves were pushed up, the next they were down, then they were pushed up again. Oops!

akhhorus

06-06-2004, 09:32 PM

WHOOP! A great finale! Loved how it ended.

(Wouldn't it be a KILLER job to be the person who picks out the music for each show?)

I dunno, they seemed to be moving in slow motion until the end.

TexSkin

06-07-2004, 09:22 AM

I like how they made Tony look like the Bear at the end of the show. Pretty Symbolic. Anyone else think that Carmela is up to something with the plans for that house she is building. Was hilarious when Tony saw the feds and ran. I still am mad about this season. They left all kinds of loose ends that they wont even get to till 2006. Yep thats right for those that dont know this. The next time you will see a new Sopranos is 2006. They are barley gonna start filiming in 2005. Bah.

Spence

06-07-2004, 09:59 AM

My guess is that Carmella definitely IS up to something. She might be using that house simply as a spec, but I believe she is plotting for a future separation from Tony. Remember how he screwed up her divorce plans by corrupting virtually every family lawyer in New Jersey? I think what Tony doesn't understand is that Carmella plans on using this "spec" house as her own home if Tony gets on her bad side again.

akhhorus

06-07-2004, 10:17 AM

Spence

06-07-2004, 10:18 AM

this speculation is worse than us during the Skins offseason because it will be 16-20 months before they are back on the air.You got an idea for a better use of my time?

akhhorus

06-07-2004, 10:22 AM

You got an idea for a better use of my time?

I could always use help on my thesis :)
there's a 800 year old, 1700 page latin document I'm trying to get translated. Oh and the text is fuzzy at parts. No Problem!

Spence

06-07-2004, 10:37 AM

I could always use help on my thesis :)
there's a 800 year old, 1700 page latin document I'm trying to get translated. Oh and the text is fuzzy at parts. No Problem!Sorry, I only speak Aramaic and ancient Greek.

GolfFreak

06-07-2004, 10:56 AM

The ending was pretty good, I thought it was a hit at first, but then realized it was the Feds. And they already let it out of the bag who gave them all the info - wonder if they'll get even next season (first episode?).

What else ... oh, thinking AJ was gay was funny. He should just follow in Daddy's footsteps, he'll get some hair on his chest that way.

I also think Carmela is up to something with her spec house. I think it has something with her financial security after a divorce goes through.

Can't wait for next season!

Minnesota Mike

06-07-2004, 11:07 AM

It seemed kind of odd opening up that AJ story line in the season finale.

It was great to see that painting of Tony and Pie-O-My show up again. I had resolved myself that (like the Russian in the Pine Barrens) this was a story line that was not going to show up again.

I'm also thinking that Tony is going to have some guilt about having whacked Tony B, especially given that John Sack and Phil are probably going to be distracted by their bigger problem with the Feds.

And I agree that Carmella will most likely end up living in the new house. Whether or not Tony does to, will be the question.

TexSkin

06-07-2004, 11:35 AM

If you look closely at the plans she was looking at they had his/her bedrooms. Ver weird indeed.

Spence

06-07-2004, 11:48 AM

If you look closely at the plans she was looking at they had his/her bedrooms. Ver weird indeed.What married couple hasn't wanted those at some time or another?*

*As I've never been married, this doees not apply to me, of course.

Minnesota Mike

06-07-2004, 11:59 AM

What married couple hasn't wanted those at some time or another?*

My recently deceased brother and his wife had seperate bedrooms. My other brother and his wife have seperate bedrooms.

They both used to make fun of me for sharing a room with my wife. "When are you going to grow up and get your own room?" was the question I would often get asked. Come to think of it, my wife asks me that question a lot.

dj_stouty

06-07-2004, 12:19 PM

Funny enough, this was the first season my wife and I have watched straight through. We caught a few episodes here and there over the years, but never found the time to get into it. This year, we promised we would watch every episode and we were hooked immediately. We plan on watching the previous seasons on DVD to catch up.

I like last week's episode much more than this week's season finale. The events leading up to Adrianna's murder was great. (Much better than the dream sequence episode the week before)

The series can go in a million different directions now that the NYC crew got pinched. I assume speculation will run rampant for the next 18 months before the next season starts.

Is the '06 season the last one?