Mike Mularkey, new head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

i think if he hits the market shanny will have some level of interest. but you still need to draft a qb in rd 2,3,or 4 to develop. id rather sign flynn then draft blackmon/jeffrey in the first then oline or corner in 2nd then in the third draft foles/moore/lindley(whoever shanny likes who isnt weeden)

mularkey is now hc of the jags and they are looking for an oc heard maybe brian schotty lol

No way in hell this is how it would play out. Kyle is not going to "demand" that Peyton Manning do "every little thing" how he wants it. Kyle doesn't want to assert his ego against Manning, what does he have to gain by that? They would have a discussion over their respective roles and figure out what works.

Kyle is not Simple Jack, despite popular believe around here.

your right that is an insult to Simple Jack

I'm 100% against this move. Haven't we learned anything? I seriously would question my fandem if we signed peyton. The last thing this franchise needs is another veteran on his last leg. I can't believe anyone could possibly get excited about this?!

Shanahan can bring in whoever he want, but If they bring Manning in and he fails, it will be curtains for him and this franchise. We can only take so much.

As long as he also brings a future young QB in the draft.. someone like Tannehill isnt going to be ready for a couple of years anyway..

I got a baaaaaaad feelin about this..

If this happens we obviously have learned nothing.

Believe whatever you want to. I can show Kyyle doing all this. If you want to believe otherwise, knock yourself out.

Look on the bright side: At least Peyton Manning would audible out of Kyle's play calls lol

i'm like you doc,i don't have a problem with it if he brings in a young understudy,and he brings in the depth and skill we need on the oline to help him.i think it would be stupid to sign any qb and not give him oline help,don't you?:giantsuk:

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NO

I don't believe in the whole vet mentoring a rookie idea. Veteran starters have no incentive whatsoever to mentor someone they're ultimately competing with for their job. If the Skins draft a young QB (or hopefully two), bringing in a vet QB is only going to stunt his/their development. How much good did Peyton do Curtis Painter or any of his other backups? Probably none. Peyton's goal would be to take all the meaningful pre-season and weekly snaps, and whoever would be backing him up would get very little developmental time.

I also think the Skins would be lucky to get 2-3 games out of Manning, much less 2-3 years.

It's all worded wrong. Manning will come here as an OC, Saturday will come because we need a center, and we will still draft a QB in the 1st.

And while hell continues to freeze over, Kate Upton will ditch that loser Sanchez and fall madly in love with me. ChaChing.

While I agree that there's never going to be a veteran who mentors a young QB with open arms without any fear of losing his job, I disagree on the rest of this. The best example I can think of is Aaron Rodgers. It's obvious that Favre hated Rodgers, but Rodgers (who was a first round pick and drafted to be the eventual franchise QB replacement... not a 6th round pick like Painter) had a few years to sit and learn the system and gel with the team while Favre did what he could to win in his final years. I'd be OK if we got Peyton, but only if we used our 1st or 2nd on our eventual franchise QB.

the beauty of taking someone like Flynn or Manning is that the draft wouldnt be raided and we could rebuild the O line faster
Without an o line, no one will be productive

Yeah I've already decided no on this move. However it wouldn't be the absolute worst thing in the world. I mean... It's Peyton freaking Manning! Coming off a year where he's probably studying more than ever and sorry to be cliche' here but truly "chomping at the bit" to get back in the game. If the Skins got Peyton and drafted Alshon at 6 I might crap my pants. Take a developmental QB later like Shally suggests and hell we might just get lucky.

I'll get sucked into the Manning whirlwind, but before I do I will say that I don't think it is the right decision.

Also I fully expect Manning to own Kyle early preseason with superior football knowledge. Kyle can't even hold that mans shoes.

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Why would anyone trade for Peyton Manning? His ability to even be able to play is in doubt. Seems everyone in the league has a direct line to DC when they want to cash out a washed up veteran

+111111111111

Just say no to playing fantasy football with our "real" team.

Question, if the Colts decided to cut Manning to end his contract before all the millions kick in, wouldn't that make him an unrestricted free agent? How could he be offered in a trade?

Or is this something that would happen before March with the company trading for him restructuring his contract?

exactly.. he will be a free agent if they release him rather than paying a bonus in March

In that scenario, I doubt Manning would want to come here. He doesn't strike me as a player who does it for the money, he wants to win probably more than anyone else on the field. At this point in his career, if he had the choice he's more likely to go to a possible QB lacking contender like the Jets. Hell, I could see him doing a lot of damage with the Broncos considering how far they've gone with Tebow under center. Solid line, young talented wide receivers, pretty good D, they could pick up Manning, draft a stud RB, draft a developmental QB, and still have room to fortify themselves.

This is exactly how I feel.

Peyton Manning is thinking, "I am going to be 36 years old, I am not mobile and playing behind the Redskins Oline. Yeah, I want to be there, just to get myself another neck surgery before half the season is over."

As long as you believe you know better, that's all that matters LOL...

(pure speculation all assuming Manning's healthy and cleared to play)

To me the Jets are his most likely suitor and most realistically desirable destination. They have a good O-line, a lot of good Vets that are just missing a strong QB and leadership. And a QB that frankly no one really believes in.

If Manning is able and hits the market in any capacity I could see the Redskins in massive rumors but the Jets ending up with him.

The Scenario I think is most likely is Manning having a conscience and renegotiating his contract with Indy pending his workouts and reflecting the uncertainty of his injury. Possibly to include some injury and performance ryders that let both parties off the hook if he can't play (but leave Manning set up comfortably), in exchange for indy's "GM to be", agreeing to use the pick on complimentary players, possibly trading down to get multiple 1st round picks from Cleveland and the rest of this years draft. So they can retool quickly.

Besides that I dont think their are a lot of teams that would be bidding on him, due to the combo of needing to not have an established QB, uncertainty about his longevity and extreme dollars.

If the Skins sign him, Dan Snyder is officially no longer "out of the mix" in my book, (oh and McNabb immediately gets re-hung on Snyder as far as I'm concerned) and look out for some massive soap opera story lines when Manning doesn't immediately lead to playoffs win.

IMO even Manning can't single handedly in one season, make this roster a playoff team... If he had two seasons to get his players on the same page and reach a level of trust, then, sure. But I could see them not winning very much the first year; which would devolve into a 1 year media "perfect storm" the likes of which would make the McNabb story line sound like a back page side bar.

Why wouldn't Kyle assert his ego on a veteran QB. What discussion on roles are you talking about. One is the QB, the other is the OC. Is there anything to be discussed?

I really dont know why anyone questions this? Or that Kyyyle demands his Qbs do everything exactly the way he wants it, even down to very small things. Hell, Grossman said that this is what goes on. I guess some people would rather believe the lie.

This is exactly what an OC should expect from a QB, and exactly what a QB should do. I see no reason to rip Kyle Shanahan for expecting his QB to do what he is told. That is the QB's job. Not to mention, with better execution, I think our play calling was very good the second half of the season.

Because people are a little more complex than characters in a Harry Potter novel?

Discussion on roles over how much say each have in the game plan and play calling.

One is a QB more different than any other QB who has ever played the game of football. The other is a young offensive coordinator.

Nothing to discuss right? He would treat Peyton Manning the exact same as Rex Grossman and a washed up McNabb because all those QBs are similar right?

You don't know why anyone would think that Kyle might treat Peyton Manning differently than Rex Grossman? lol

Does Rex Grossman call his own plays at the line of scrimmage? Read defense better than 90% of coordinators in the NFL?

To say Manning can't make our team a playoff contender (healthy check up) is silly IMO. The guy is unstoppable and who knows what a change of scenery might do for him. Personally I think he goes to Miami, but if he does come here I'm pretty certain we would instantly become a playoff team.

Here are the roles: Quarterback, Offensive Coordinator. Who makes the game plan? The offensive coordinator. Who executes the game plan? The Quarterback. Where have you heard anything about Redskins QB's being involved in creating the game plan?

Your last sentence makes no sense at all. So Peyton should come in and just run the offense he wants to run since he's "more different than any other QB who has ever played the game of football"? So he should have say over the "young offensive coordinator"?

Is that what you're saying.

Who says Kyle would allow Peyton to call his own plays? Just because he did it in Indy doesn't mean every team would allow him to do it. How many other QB's in the league calls their own plays at the line of scrimmage?

Those are the roles for a convention QB and Peyton is anything but. He is an offensive coordinator on the field. He calls plays based on his ability to read a defense, when he gets to the line of scrimmage.

Other coordinators call their plays in to their QB. Peyton walks up to the line and calls the play based on the coverage. See the difference?

You have a QB who is smart enough to read defenses live at the line of scrimmage and you don't let him? That makes zero sense.

Kyyle's system requires every QB to run the audibles exactly as he's set them. Why do you think that would change regardless of what QB is it? He's done this with every QB who's been in for the skins, and if he's going to be a jerk with a QB his father spent a high 2nd on, why do you think that he would back off because Peyton was signed?