Well it doesnt sound like Manning is gonna be an option for us or anyone else, other than MAYBE Indy.

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Can he read a professional defense quickly while under center? His footwork, accuracy, and arm strength are all well and good. But how long will it take him to learn the playbook and read pro defenses quickly enough to he successful in the NFL? 1-2 years? By that time he will be 29-30. Ugh! No thanks. However, the only way I feel comfortable is if we draft another QB later or next year to groom behind him. But still, Weeden looks nothing more than a stop gap.

I see your point. 5 years is a long enough window to see if he's got what it takes and, in the process, groom his eventual replacement. However, there are still a lot of ?? about his ability to succeed In the NFL. The only way this works is if he succeeds and we find a franchise QB in the process. Otherwise, he's no more than a door holder for the next goof. I should say though that I do like some of the things I see in this guy. He is mature, has good arm strength, seems very accurate on the run, tall, and stout. Not too shabby that he was a Yankee prospect, too. I just wish he wouldn't be 29 a month after the start of next season. JMO.

Dungy is simply talking through his hat..even if Manning IS healthy enough to play, there is NO way that the Colts commit something like 50 million bucks to the QB position on the roster..

They are going to turn the page on Manning"s career.. nothing Irsay has said
makes me think anything else. at that point, Manning will either retire, or play for another team..right now, i would think it is more likely he retires if he STILL has strength loss from nerve damage.. he is a fool to do otherwise.

all your points are valid.. i think he will be the quickest study of any QB coming out except for Luck.. I love everything i see about RGIII, but i dont think he is going to be ready any quicker than Breeden would be.. you can say many of the same things about him in terms of learning the pro game.. he took an awful lot of snaps from the gun.. he has had his knee wrecked once.. he is much smaller framed than Vick.. or probably even Weeden.. what he has going for him is that he is young enough so that if he makes it, RGIII can have a 10-15 year career in the NFL, but right now we dont know if it will be as a starter, or as a career backup

i think Shanahan has to make a decision as to whether RGIII is that much better than any other QB, that he is worth selling the farm to move up ? if he is, i think you do it.. The Giants did that with Eli.. they went against ALL their tendencies and paid a huge amount to move up just 2 places-- and that was with Rivers even available to them with their natural pick.. from the way things have worked out, it looks like they made the correct decision, although it would be interesting to speculate what the Giants would have done all these years with Rivers.. He didnt turn out the way Leaf did certainly

On the other hand, if Shanahan thinks that in a year, there wont be ANY difference in the pro performance of RGIII versus Weeden/Foles/Cousins/Tannehill/etc.... then you save your picks and stay at 6, or move back and build the team around that other guy.. I liked Weeden, but I also think that Cousins has moved up in my estimation.. We havent even seen what Tannehill brings in workouts, so there are a lot of options out there..

i dont think we will have to wait very long in March to see if we have any interest in Flynn.. I dont think we will.. so that makes it a rookie pick, because there arent any realistic other veteran options, assuming that Manning hangs em up.

right now i am holding my breath because of Shanahan's betting his rep on Rex/Beck.. he simply needs to hit a home run with this pick

Shally, the Giants didn't move up, they selected Rivers with their natural pick and then traded him, as well as their next year's 1st and a 3rd, IIRC, for Manning. It was a pre-orchestrated move based on value and a rare deal where both teams made out well. Though, San Diego's fortune was short term, at least as far as the bonus picks they received. Rivers is still a damn good QB that is franchise worthy.

I agree with Shally on Peyton Manning. The Colts say, if he's ready he'll be our starter" is just Coachspeak = "he's a HOF QB who gave us many great years. He'll be our QB until we draft Luck, or he can't come back medically, or the risk isn't worth it."
As someone with a back spinal injury due to an 'athletic job' [fighter pilot], there is just is no coming back to where you were (athletically) before. Neck issues are even more dangerous. The will may be there but the body says NO.

The Flynn phenomemon is based on two outstanding games supported by a great offense. Someone will take their chances with him, but I don't think it will be us.

RGIII will be scrutinized for weeks by the Redskins staff. They will watch him at the Combine, personal interviews and workouts. If they think he's the answer they may go all in for him. He may take a year to mature and read NFL defenses, but in his rookie years his running ability will make up for his learning curve.

After RGIII the elite QB's drop off. Even at #6 there are some really juicy offensive players in other positions at RB, WR, OT. IMO going for RGIII will depend on what they think he will do in his career. Is he a Michael Vick or a Heath Shuler? Shanahan showed last season the he was willing to pass up on the QB many considered as the #1 QB - Gabbert. Gabbert ended up at the bottom of the NFL QB with Rex and Beck and the Redskins got extra picks for it.

If they think RGIII is the future franchise QB they will trade up for him. If NOT, then they will make picks based on watching the Senior Bowl. Take the best QB in the second round while building up the offense with new blood.

Of course you Are correct but in essence it was a trade up via the back door. It happened because eli balked and sd was still able to get what they needed

I often wonder how rivers would have done with the giants stable franchise. For sure i think eli would ha e floundered in sd. No one can overcome the dyscun tion that norv creates

Unlike in the past, the Skins are struggling to sell tickets. They are losing more ticket buyers than they are gaining. The only way they can reverse this trend is to make a big time move and QB is the place where it needs to be made. Trading up for RGIII is the most obvious and sensible answer. Acquiring Peyton Manning is the next most but not nearly as sensible.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Skins did both...

I see the reasoning here, but is this really a concern of Shannahan? Shannahan's goal has to be securing wins to get us into the playoffs, or he's out of a job in two years. Doesn't he have control over personnel decisions instead of Snyder?

more and more, I think Peyton is done, medically

I Agree,i also think it's over for peyton.peter king said last night,he is still having a hard time throwing the ball well. I hate to say it,but i think we have seen the last of peyton as an active player. he is a first ballott hall of famer,and a very classy and good man.i hope he lives a long life outside of the nfl.

All coaches are poker players, but you can still read the tea leaves and figure out what they're probably thinking. Im glad to hear Shanny is willing to build his offense around his QB

Edit: As opposed to having to find that QB that fits the system.

Rex/Beck have no skillset to build around.. you need a minimum level of proficiency

Understood, but my fear is that Shanny doesnt view RG3 as a potential candidate for the job. I like seeing that Mike is not as rigid with the "system" as I thought he was, regardless of who the QB is.