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shally 01-19-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by akhhorus (Post 1427350)
With multiple teams bidding, its going to cost much more then that. I would guess 2 high firsts(or 3 firsts)+2 2nds or a useful young player+2nd or 3rd. Fisher's no dummy. He's going to keep squeezing until the last minute.

right now, we have NO idea how many teams will be bidding.. we dont even have a clue whether there will be other QB's who made a solid impression at the SB or combine.. if one of them does, it will drop the price for RGIII because there will be credible alternatives

also, if RGIII shows up for the combine a looks skinny in his shorts, or measures out an inch or 2 shorter than his press packages say he is, th eprice could drop substantially

we are a long long way from teams making up their minds.. this time last year, there were questions as to whether Cam Newton would even be a top 10 pick

akhhorus 01-19-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by shally (Post 1427355)
i think Shanahan is much concerned with winning here and setting the table for Kyle getting a HC spot.. he wont accomplish either with Rex or Young and backbiting at Snyder wont help Kyle.. he needs to win

Miami has Henne, Moore and probably will take a shot at Peyton

Philly has committed to Vick for 1 year and has Kafka who looks like the next Kolb.. they will draft a QB in the 2-4th round but not before that

Trading for Rg3 would buy reid several years. Miami has the team in place. They just need the Qb. Henne and Moore are both UFAs I believe.

Shanny's more concerned with the image/perception then over winning.

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Originally Posted by shally (Post 1427355)
You can only polish a t*rd so much.. and you cant sell the same batch of foul smelling snake oil 2 years in a row..NO ONE is going to buy Rex or Beck being any different next year--despite what Sonny has said from the booth and for the record (he thinks Rex can be a winner)

Kyle Shanahan helped recruit Vince Young...

shally 01-19-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by akhhorus (Post 1427360)
Trading for Rg3 would buy reid several years. Miami has the team in place. They just need the Qb. Henne and Moore are both UFAs I believe.

Shanny's more concerned with the image/perception then over winning.



Kyle Shanahan helped recruit Vince Young...

Young is a head case and flopped badly in Philly with a better team around him.. unless Kyle has another hidden tattoo somewhere, I am not buying that-- except maybe as a replacement for Beck or Rex-- along with a REAL QB taken in the draft.

I dont think that Reid WANTS to coach 3 more years.. he looks worn out and I bet he walks away after next year.. the Eagles are built for a 1 year window next year.. after that, the whole thing gets torn down--without Reid

Miami is a real possibility. they will re sign either Moore or Henne, but not both.. Ireland is in control of that franchise now, so i think they will draft a QB somewhere in the draft, but I see them more in the market for Tannehill or Osweiler or Lindly-- someone to draft for a possible start in 2013

akhhorus 01-19-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shally (Post 1427366)
Young is a head case and flopped badly in Philly with a better team around him.. unless Kyle has another hidden tattoo somewhere, I am not buying that-- except maybe as a replacement for Beck or Rex-- along with a REAL QB taken in the draft.

And Rex/Beck were coming off 3000 yard seasons when the skins signed them lol...

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Originally Posted by shally (Post 1427366)
I dont think that Reid WANTS to coach 3 more years.. he looks worn out and I bet he walks away after next year.. the Eagles are built for a 1 year window next year.. after that, the whole thing gets torn down--without Reid

If you're fisher, and Reid offers you a 1st, 2 2nds in 2012, Jeremy Maclin, next year's 1st and your choice of a young Dlineman(with Washburn telling you who's secretly good), you take it. I believe that they can dump Vick after next year.

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Originally Posted by shally (Post 1427366)
Miami is a real possibility. they will re sign either Moore or Henne, but not both.. Ireland is in control of that franchise now, so i think they will draft a QB somewhere in the draft, but I see them more in the market for Tannehill or Osweiler or Lindly-- someone to draft for a possible start in 2013

Miami wants to make a splash also.

Lavar703 01-19-2012 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by akhhorus (Post 1427350)
With multiple teams bidding, its going to cost much more then that. I would guess 2 high firsts(or 3 firsts)+2 2nds or a useful young player+2nd or 3rd. Fisher's no dummy. He's going to keep squeezing until the last minute.

I don't think so. I think Miami is happy with what they've got from Moore and would be more interested in someone like Tannehill or Wilson in the
2nd round. Cleveland will most likely have Flynn locked up the day of free agency considering they showed interest last year. I honestly think the Redskins will be bidding against themselves come draft day and we either pay what the Rams want or we sit at six and miss out on our biggest need.

akhhorus 01-19-2012 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lavar703 (Post 1427379)
I don't think so. I think Miami is happy with what they've got from Moore and would be more interested in someone like Tannehill or Wilson in the
2nd round. Cleveland will most likely have Flynn locked up the day of free agency considering they showed interest last year. I honestly think the Redskins will be bidding against themselves come draft day and we either pay what the Rams want or we sit at six and miss out on our biggest need.

Miami's changing coaches, they aren't going to roll with Moore(who was decent at times) next year except as a clipboard holder. Wilson isn't in the draft, Tannehill will be a big question mark due to his foot injury and their owner wants to make a big splash. If Cleveland gets Flynn, then Seattle will be bidding on RG3.

Lavar703 01-19-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by akhhorus (Post 1427380)
Miami's changing coaches, they aren't going to roll with Moore(who was decent at times) next year except as a clipboard holder. Wilson isn't in the draft, Tannehill will be a big question mark due to his foot injury and their owner wants to make a big splash. If Cleveland gets Flynn, then Seattle will be bidding on RG3.

Russell Wilson. Tyler Wilson will most likely be a top 10 pick next year.

akhhorus 01-19-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lavar703 (Post 1427383)
Russell Wilson. Tyler Wilson will most likely be a top 10 pick next year.

Wilson's a 4-6th round flyer pick.

warpaint 01-19-2012 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by akhhorus (Post 1427386)
Wilson's a 4-6th round flyer pick.

how about ryan tanneyhills girl friend is she a 4-6th round flyer pick lol
http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.n...-tannehill.jpg

Lavar703 01-19-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by akhhorus (Post 1427386)
Wilson's a 4-6th round flyer pick.

Maybe because of his height. Other than that I don't see how he lasts that long?

akhhorus 01-19-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lavar703 (Post 1427388)
Maybe because of his height. Other than that I don't see how he lasts that long?

Even if he was 6-4, I wouldn't grade him as anything more then a 3rd.

shally 01-19-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by warpaint (Post 1427387)
how about ryan tanneyhills girl friend is she a 4-6th round flyer pick lol
http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.n...-tannehill.jpg

looks high maintenance to me..lol

he better sign a big contract

Lavar703 01-19-2012 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by akhhorus (Post 1427389)
Even if he was 6-4, I wouldn't grade him as anything more then a 3rd.

We will just have to disagree on this one.

akhhorus 01-19-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lavar703 (Post 1427398)
We will just have to disagree on this one.

He had a great year for the Badgers, but I don't see what the hype is on him. He was a very inaccurate/inefficient QB for the Wolfpack.

hail2skins 01-19-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lavar703 (Post 1427383)
Russell Wilson. Tyler Wilson will most likely be a top 10 pick next year.

I really liked what I saw from Wilson when I did see him play. His size is a concern but folks said that about Brees too.


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