PFT:skins considering peyton,flynn,orton
 

Most of us Redskins fans knew this,but looks like it has some truth behind the rumors finally.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...n-flynn-orton/

This is a non-story. Of course they are talking about the top potential free agent QBs. It would be a story if we had decided to target one of them and were willing to break the bank. But that's not the case, so: no story.

This may be non news but I got to wonder if all this press about kyle's control issues, whether real or not, will hurt our chances to attract someone. When Shanahan started here the last thing I expected was a story line 2 years later that QBs might not want to come here because of Kyle.

Of course, personally I hope it does hurt our chances to get peyton because I would not support that move.

Here's a similar story with the focus on Orton...

http://www.csnwashington.com/blog/re...5 8276258-835

Sounds like Orton and Rex do not get along so if we do sign Orton, Rex is likely gone. I know Orton isnt the QB most of us want but he would be an upgrade over Rex and would likely mean we wouldnt re-sign Rex(so thats good news ;)). Im not thrilled about our disinterest in Flynn and Im not sure why we would prefer Orton over him but if we can get Tannenhill or maybe even Weeden it could go a long way towards filling in the depth of the roster by not losing multiple draft picks in a trade up scenario.

And in regards to Peyton I see him ending up in Miami, he and the Mrs. already own a beach house there and being a dome QB I imagine he'd prefer Miami's weather. Plus Ross is supposedly enamored with signing him. I see Peyton landing there and Flynn likely going to either Seattle or Cleveland. And for the record I still think we need a franchise caliber signal caller and really like RGIII a lot I just dont want to trade the farm to draft him.

I don't know how realistic that is, but if flynn only gets that kind of money we are crazy not to go after him even if we also go after rg3.

Another article about Peyton to miami on pft

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sport...ight-guar.html

Sounds like Ross has a snyder style man crush on peyton.

Agreed, but it doesnt seem like many have that high of an opinion of him, I mean even his former OC in Miami doesnt seem overly interested in signing him. I like the guy better than Orton but evidently Shanny doesnt.

Exactly why i see Peyton signing there, he wants a deal done and done quickly and Miami is gonna go after him hard, plus they do have a couple of play makers in Bush and Marshall.

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lol...yet another reason I think he goes to miami just so he can keep the rivalry going.

This isn't even news. It just means the FO is being smart and systematic. Okay we, need a QB, let's make a list of EVERY option as a starting point, and do our dilligence on each one so we are prepared for any and all eventualities. That's all this means, nothing more.

Yeah, my thing with Orton is that I feel like he has a pretty clear ceiling. He would be a good game manager type qb that keeps us in games, but not much more. Picking him up a couple years ago would have been a good idea, but at this point it would feel more like a lateral move to me than a real upgrade. I could swallow orton and a project qb, but if we pick up orton without picking up one the QBs on the board after RG3 I would be very disappointed.

By the way, hope everyone enjoys the game today...

I think we will sign Orton and draft either RGIII or Tannehill. Manning would be just a stopgap and a viable solution for this team, IMO. Manning to Miami seems to make more sense anyway.

They truly are the dumbest people on the planet.

If we sign Orton then I hope we draft tannenhill even if we have to trade down or back up at the end of the first. If we sign mannIng we need to still draft a qb by rd 4 imo

as long as grossman and beck are gone,i'm insanely happy!:giantsuk:

I wouldn't mind Grossman at all as long as he is the back up. I like the idea of Orton or Flynn because you shouoldn't have to commit to either long term.

honestly, i think that Orton is only marginally better

would be counting the days until our Rookie is starting

Orton would be a 1 year deal..Flynn is going to be looking for a long term deal for sure

Does this mean we have 0 intrest in Brees. As of now he will become a free agent.

Orton ??? ORTON ????!!!!
 

My Gawd !! Have we learned nothing ??

The only way to long term success in the NFL is to find a young qb, and grow a team around him..When you go with a Gannon, Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, or even a Doug Williams, you might have a year of glory, but then you are mired in in mediocrity once again in very short order..

yes, you could trade for a Flynn, or Hasselbeck, or even a Favre, but you have no guarantee of not getting the next Kolb or Cassel.. the better way is to just keep drafting QB's until you get the right guy

the risk is there and you can get guys like Shuler, or Campbell or Ramsey and that will surely set your team back a couple of years.. but if you dont try, you are never going to come up with the guy to lead your team for 7-15 years..

find THE guy.. do what you need to get him, even if it means using large parts of this draft and future drafts to accomplish this.. there simply is no viable other way, unless you figure to find the next Tom Brady.. and how often does that happen ?? then build around him with what is left of your draft and sign young free agents to fill out your roster.. the Giants paid a lot to get Eli, right now it looks like they got a bargain..

Orton ??? only as a caretaker for less than half a season...

Agreed. Orton isn't as interception prone but he's a marginal QB and doesn't alter the trajectory of this franchise. If this team must go with one of the three, it has to be Manning, but regardless they must augment the position with a high pick as well.

I don't understand why everyone is so angry of the interest in Manning? He is a HOF QB and would instantly make our team better. Why dump a bunch of picks to move up for a QB? Draft a QB to groom in the 2nd or 3rd or 4th and draft a tackle at the #6. Let Peyton groom the rookie for a year or two and then see what the kids got.

Peyton will not cost a lot. We are a ton of money under the cap anyway. Give him a performance based contract with little guarantee, like he has already said he would take, and let it go.

You want our young WR's to develop? Peyton will do just that for us. Look what he has done to every mediocre receiver he has had in Indy. He MAKES receivers better and he makes everyone around him better.

Who cares what happens between him and Kyle? Noone wants Kyle here anyway, so it might be for the better.

Personally, Peyton had an down year in '10 when his o-line broke down, he got little from his running game and his wr's were rotating in and out and coming to the Skins would be a similar situation. His knowledge and preparation would be awesome benefits but his limited mobility and diminishing arm (assuming it even returns to what it was) are negatives. This doesn't even factor it the increased injury potential, especially on a new team where his greatest asset, familiarity, is removed.

Not having to give up much to acquire him is a bonus, but adding him doesn't fix the position. It's a combination move.

That makes for good copy and is true to an extent but those guy succeed because the framework and system are in place when the arrive. Not the case shold he arrive in DC.

I don't think anyone here, or in general, is worried about Kyle's feelings. However, assuming the staff is going to be in place for a bit and there is a desire to build consistency therein then you find the parts that best fit and can grow into consistently productive teams. Peyton is a salve, and would be more spinning of the wheels.

Maybe we will get lucky and Manning will sign with the Dolphins, forcing Flynn to sign with the Browns who then don't draft RG3 because they just dumped money on a QB allowing RG3 to fall to us at 6....

But that would mean the Redskins had a shred of luck which we all know is not true...

They went 10-6 in 2010. I would kill to have a 10-6 season here and win the division.

Framework and system in Indy? Peyton MADE that system in Indy, lol. Did that system or framework help Orlovsky? Painter? Collins? That system is Peyton.

Signing Peyton and drafting a QB in the 2nd or 3rd is not doing anything to our franchise. RGIII and Luck will be gone by the 6th pick. We going to draft Tannehill @ 6? Doubt it. We would be drafting a QB there anyways.

IMO, there is not a QB after the top 2 that can start day one. Of course a Dalton or someone can always happen, but do you honestly think that that luck can happen here in DC? Do you have faith in our system to think that would happen here? I highly doubt it.

Get a Vet and groom your future behind him. Just like Brees did, just like Rodgers did. That's how it should be.

If we go out and sign Orton as our starter, I will be upset. He would put this franchise back. I would not have been opposed to it last offseason, but definitely not this year.

More Fuel to the fire. I Got a feeling the next 6 weeks are gonna be loaded with speculation!

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...gton-redskins/

We might want Peyton, but he won't want us.

Well if that's the case...the Skins have a lot of work to do because I'm not sure he can win with our o-line or receivers but then again what do I know

Just saw that myself and I could see it happening, we would be able to keep all our picks and be aggressive in free agency so I could see it working if he's healthy. Its not my favorite option but if the guy regains his arm strength then we'll be better, we have the draft picks and cap room to improve the OL and WR corp to help him out.

my thoughts exactly...

I Think the giants winning the SB yesterday helped the skins in getting manning here if he's healthy and wants to come.he'll definitly want to one up eli,and he'd get that chance two times a season,and may put the nfc east back as the league's dominant division it was in the 1980s and 1990s.

If they do that, its a big step in the right direction(if they team Peyton with a developmental QB to be his apprentice). If they decide that signing Peyton is all they have to do to fix the offense and keep piling draft picks into the defense, the effect will be muted. Even with Peyton, the skins still need 2 WRs(a burner and a big flanker), a TE to replace Davis or Cooley, two OGs, 2 OTs(if they dump Cheech) and an OC to replace Monty if he walks.

in other words,will be the league's longest running cluster**ck,right?

I would have to think that they draft a QB in this draft whether they pick up a FA QB or not.

The fact is that you are going to have to sign him without knowing if his arm strength will ever come back. This is just crazy. Snyder must be channeling through you guys. It will be like rewinding a decade. It will be a circus show at redskins park surrounding one player, not the TEAM we need to build. That is not the environment we need to move forward with.

Let the dolphins have him.

So best case scenario you get a 10-6 season then what? The team needs a long term answer and being closer to the top of the draft, as they are now, presents the best odds and cheapest avenue with which to address that spot.

That's an oversimplification and if you think it's that cut and dry then there's not much else to discuss.

If this team feels it necessary to go after a FA QB (Flynn, Manning, Orton) then Peyton is the easy answer. Perhaps they do so feeling that they can get a mid-round guy (Foles/Cousings/Osweiler/Wilson)that will emerge after some time sitting behind him, and if that's how it shakes out then I'm hopeful they get it right. Typically mid-round QB's don't pan out so this course statistically would result in a short term rental of Peyton without a real answer at QB.

I don't believe in nonsense like curses affecting teams. Numerous factors play into a successful team building process and high quality players emerging and I do think that this staff/system can produce that. If they feel so lacking in their ability to find a QB and instead have to fall back on a broken/breaking down legend (to some degree for the second time) then that speaks volumes.

Ideally, but this team has a lot of needs. I'm not 100% against Peyton because it would allow them to fix a lot of other holes, whereas a trade up would not, but I'd prefer they try to fix the massive problem at QB with a lasting answer. I just don't think Peyton's health will make him long for whatever team he chooses, if he's even able to get back on the field. I also don't know why he'd want to come to the Redskins when there are other teams much closer to a real run that he could go to.

Orton sucks, is marginally better than Rex and offers little more than some good optional comedy about his neck beard.

Id like Blackmon at 6 and Weeden in the 2nd if we do sign Peyton, still I'd think he'd prefer the Dolphins but who knows.

Like I said it isnt my favorite option but neither would parting with multiple 1sts and 2nds. I was kinda on the Flynn bandwagon and for keeping the picks, slightly over RGIII but Im not sure what the plan is anymore lol.