Ramsey close up

#1 08-13-2003, 12:39 PM

First off, Ramsey played in 9 games last year, of those 9 games the skins lost 6 of them. (not a good ratio) But in his defense, two of those games he threw for no yards but threw an INT in both.
In the Skins losses, Ramsey averaged only 145.33 yards per game, but in the wins averaged 222.33 yards per game. (similar to mr. pennington). Also in the wins, he's threw for 4 tds and only 2 int's, while in the losses he's thrown 5 tds and 6int's. (one game vs Phily he had 3 tds and no int's with 213 passing yards to pad these stats.)
This is the most important stat, and one that concerns me. Only 51.3% of his passes were completed. That's pathetic. He needs to improve on his % and I'm sure his INT's will go down.
I'm sure he'll do better this year since his WR corp is better. But as the Ramsey goes,so do the skins. And thus far, my confidence level is a bit shakey.

hail2skins · #2 08-13-2003, 12:48 PM

Well, his completion percentage doesn't take drop balls into account either as you all witnessed the drops last week. Good info though, thanks.

Spence · #3 08-13-2003, 12:51 PM

As you noted, two of those interceptions were last second tosses down the field. Ramsey was called in to perform that duty because Matthews and Wuerffel didn't have the arms to do it. I don't count those.

I thought Ramsey had a good TD/Interception ratio, aside from one awful performance against the Saints. His completion percentage was intolerably low, but he needs wideouts that get some separation from the defense. Ramsey's problem has been accuracy.

LuvSkins17 · #4 08-13-2003, 01:27 PM

I still remember how it was last preseason seeing Danny W. and Shane M. throwing and then seeing Ramsey come in a throw. I was like "Damn he has got a rocket launcher!"

. I am hoping that the coach is taking the time to help Ramsey to get better. I really like the kid. We just need to come out and play like we care. Seems like the only ones who cared was the rookie rb McCullugh and Ramsey.

JoeDaSchmoe · #5 08-13-2003, 02:11 PM

I really don't think the stats on Ramsey tell the right story, just like his numbers against Carolina are horribly skewed because of the drops.

Skinsfan1906 · #6 08-13-2003, 02:44 PM

Pass Protection was an issue also. How many times was he "Rushed" into throwing passes?

jporterweb · #7 08-13-2003, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by JoeDaSchmoe
I really don't think the stats on Ramsey tell the right story, just like his numbers against Carolina are horribly skewed because of the drops.

My sentiments exactly. You gotta remember these things,
1. He held out for part of TC.
2. Many times he was stuffed into the middle of a game when things were already bad, they had no momentum, and the other QBs had already been horrible
3. He WAS A ROOKIE!
4. He didn't have the offseason training he has had this year.
5. He was looking over his shoulder for Woefull and Pain on every throw.

I think he has matured well beyond his years this offseason. I also think, that he will do loads better with his new speed and talent.

dj_stouty · #8 08-13-2003, 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by Spence
As you noted, two of those interceptions were last second tosses down the field. Ramsey was called in to perform that duty because Matthews and Wuerffel didn't have the arms to do it. I don't count those.

I'm glad you brought that up. Spurrier simply pulled Patrick off the bench to make those "high INT percentage" passes.

AND STILL, he had more TDs than INTs! Lets see Carr, Harrington or Palmer do that anytime in the next few years!

TexSkin · #9 08-13-2003, 03:09 PM

I expect good things from Ram this year...the D-line is what I am worried about.

Hailyeah · #10 08-13-2003, 03:28 PM

I'm a big Ram fan. I'm willing to accept mistakes that he makes this season as 'growing pains'. At the QB position, you've gotta look long term. He has all the mental and physical tools to be rock solid. The team fairing as he fairs is acceptable to me.

The team going only as far as our suspect backs or D line can take us is another story. There is not as much upside with those spots and therefore far less hope of future improvements.

#11 08-13-2003, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by TexSkin
I expect good things from Ram this year...the D-line is what I am worried about.

I'm worried about it as well. Hopefully it will hold it's own and let the linebackers do the grunt work.

About Ramsey though, in regards to rookies, mistakes will be made constantly and you just have to live with that. His int's and fumbles (especially that horrific game vs the Saints) can be forgiven and forgotten, but a true calculator of possible talent would be his comp. %, and it's too low for comfort.
It is worth noting that in his last 4 games (going 2-2) he passed for 816 yards (204 average) with 6 tds and 2 ints. Average that out over an entire season and that's 3264 yards (a bit low for what ramsey should do in this offense, but not bad) with 24tds and 8 picks. Those are very respectable numbers.

Just because he has a gun doesn't mean he'll be a good qb. (don't forget, chad hutchinson can throw in the 90's) I hope he doesn't burn us!!!!! We need him to act like a verteran this year!

hail2skins · #12 08-13-2003, 04:38 PM

I'm with you Hailyeah. If only SS would have lived with those growing pains last season.

#13 08-13-2003, 05:02 PM

so I'm assuming every one truly believes that Ramsey is ready to do it all this year?

hail2skins · #14 08-13-2003, 05:08 PM

I believe he'll have some growing pains but I think he'll fair okay for us. He won't do it all but he'll do enough.

#15 08-13-2003, 05:15 PM

If he "won't do it" will we have enough running game to get away with it???

What are you expecting from Ramsey this year?