Hey Joe, Keep the Switch On

joethefan · #1 10-10-2006, 03:43 PM

I'm beginning to get a mentality that thier is a majic switch in Ashburn that is in Gibbs' office. I know you may say "what is Joethefan talking about Now?"

Let me share my theory. This is what I think:

I think that Joe thinks he is in the old days when the internet and The NFL Network didn't exist. The fan is very knowledgable of the game and the access that we have now just doesn't add up to what we're seeing on the field. Now just because I question Joe doesn't mean that I'm blaspheming the REDSKIN Nation. I had to say that. But it seems to me that this team is only about making money. Why I say that, well every year we play the Giants at thier home we look the same. And the story is the same. "Tiki to the left Tiki to the right..Run Tiki Run all damn night".
Now if the Giants have the 29th ranked pass defense in the league and we have recievers that are supposed to stretch the field, why didn't we try to exploit thier Secondary? Portis had 61 yards in the first half, why didn't we stick with the run? I don't understand. Then we get in front of the camera and say "we don't know what's going on.. It starts with me and we've gotta figure it out. We gotta play better....(Pharaphrasing). I'm a little league coach, and even I know to scout and try to exploit an opponent. Not one 30 yard one pass down the field. And please don't say "Well Brunell was pressured" not the entire game. Eli was pressured too, but he finds a way to get it downfield.

I'm getting the feeling that I'm beginning to feel sorry for you season ticket holders..because it seems to me that Danny's make all the money theory is taking over and the fans are the ones that suffer. Why do I say that? No one seemed to have an attittude about the fact that we loss the game. It was just "It wasn't a good day, We couldn't get anything started, we have a long season". No you don't. But when the cameras are on and we lose, no one wants to talk, but when we win everyone has something to say.

I just wish Joe would get aggressive for one game. Why does it seem that we punk out when we go to another division rivals' stadium? Especially the Giants.

Maybe we think that since we ran the table after being 5-6 last year we can turn the switch on after losing another 3 games. I say keep the switch on and play hardnosed football. But it seems to me that Redskin football is about marketing "throwing fans bones" and everyone getting paid. And until they begin to use thier minds towards winning games it'll be a long few seasons to come.....Joe keep the switch on. Sorry to post and run I'll be back tommorrow. I pieced this together throughout my full day at work.....would love to hear your comments.

Axegrinder · #2 10-10-2006, 03:57 PM

I would say that they only perform when they have their backs up against the wall.This team continuously does things the hard way.We don't have the killer instinct.

Skins57 · #3 10-10-2006, 04:03 PM

I also think the team not talking after a loss is a reflection of Joe himself. Joe will not tolerate someone bad mouthing anyone on this team. It will be kept in house.

The Jake · #4 10-10-2006, 04:10 PM

I've had my own conspiracy theories about snyder and the whole nfl myself, but I think the Giants may be better than us. They certainly looked it sunday and they won the division last year. Our team isn't the same mentally as it was at the end of 2005 and until it becomes that way we'll see moments of greatness (Jags) and moments of ugliness (Giants, Cowboys, Vikes). We need to win our next 2 or we'll really be against the wall. So frustrating with these guys. At least I can get tickets to a winning team in New Orleans.

skinfanjon · #5 10-10-2006, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jake

I've had my own conspiracy theories about snyder and the whole nfl myself, but I think the Giants may be better than us. They certainly looked it sunday and they won the division last year. Our team isn't the same mentally as it was at the end of 2005 and until it becomes that way we'll see moments of greatness (Jags) and moments of ugliness (Giants, Cowboys, Vikes). We need to win our next 2 or we'll really be against the wall. So frustrating with these guys. At least I can get tickets to a winning team in New Orleans.

They aren't that much better than us. That was actually a pretty close game until the end of the thrid quarter. We lost because we got whipped on the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. We couldn't stop Tiki early, and it softened up the pass D. We couldn't protect Brunell early to take advantage of the yardage Portis was giving us, and they stuffed our running game in the second half beacuse we became one dimensional. Losing the line of scrimmage is more an indication of heart that talent, in my opinion. At least when the talent level of both teams is comparable, which it is. They just wanted it more, and they pulled away because of it.

joethefan · #6 10-11-2006, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jake

I've had my own conspiracy theories about snyder and the whole nfl myself, but I think the Giants may be better than us. They certainly looked it sunday and they won the division last year. Our team isn't the same mentally as it was at the end of 2005 and until it becomes that way we'll see moments of greatness (Jags) and moments of ugliness (Giants, Cowboys, Vikes). We need to win our next 2 or we'll really be against the wall. So frustrating with these guys. At least I can get tickets to a winning team in New Orleans.

But how can they do the same thing every year for the past three years....being non comptetitive....explain that!

wewantdallas · #7 10-11-2006, 08:42 AM

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<<I just wish Joe would get aggressive for one game. Why does it seem that we punk out when we go to another division rivals' stadium? Especially the Giants.>>

That sums up how I feel perfectly. I've just had enough of this team embarrassing itself and the fans when we have these big divisional games. It's happened for a LONG time now, with very few exceptions. It just really built up for me after Sunday's debacle. I'm still sick over it. It's humiliating to see your team play that pathetically in such a big game. And I've seen it TOO OFTEN over the last 15 years.

I love that Joe doesn't throw people under the bus, but I would LOVE to hear him get a little tougher in some of his comments. He doesn't have to guarantee wins or belittle another team - just act like you have some confidence in your guys and stop saying, "Oh, this next opponent will be a nightmare," etc., etc.

It just sickens me that we honestly could've just about ended the Giants' season on Sunday with a win and no one seemed to understand that, and now we've got huge odds against us making the playoffs and it's not even the halfway point of the season yet.

The Jake · #8 10-11-2006, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by joethefan

But how can they do the same thing every year for the past three years....being non comptetitive....explain that!

You know I wish I could but it's like clockwork with the skins. last year was the first time they've circled the wagons as they say and made the playoffs. If that's the exception to the rule or a pattern will be decided by the end of this season.

skinfanjon · #9 10-10-2006, 04:17 PM

As I understand your argument, you are implying that Snyder doesn't care about winning, which is absolutely untrue. In an indirect sense, you seem to be saying that Gibbs plays tight becausee he feels we will get on a roll, or something to that affect. Neither of these things could be farther from the truth. Snyder wants a winnner as badly as anyone, and it has been proven over and over by his willingness to invest in the team and his reactions to the games themselves (rememeber Dallas?). Gibbs is conservative by nature, that is his style, but either way this is Saunders offense and it shouldn't matter if Gibbs is passive or not in his ideaology of playcalling. He's not the one picking the plays.

Where I do agree with you is in the overall attitude of the players. Many of them seem to posses a casual approach to the season, as if the high expectations assured thm of a place in the postseason. The team has an overall lackidasical presence to it right now, and that can and should be traced back to the coaching staff. They seem to only play their best when they have no room for error, but that sort of approach is what has put us in a hole to start the season and is paid for dearly if the team can even make the postseason. Those early losses are avoided by teams that earn bye weeks and host playoff games, and it is incresaingly difficult to advance through the postseason without either of those advantages working in your favor. So, to an extent, I agree with what you say.

What needs to happen in orde rto fix this season is a transformation in attitude more than anything else. This team has felt both lazy and energized, so it is up to the coaches to bring out the energy in these guys. The players need to accept more accountability for their own mistakes, and we need to start playing as if we think we can dicate the outcome of the game on both sides of the ball, rather than passively accepting whatever the defense or offense gives us. In other words, we have to start playing like a team that enjoys kicking the crap out of its opponents. I don't care who we play this week, we need to get focused and fired up, and come out and beat the SPENCORED out of the TItans like we did the 9ers last year. Then we need to get back to practice to start next week, leave our costumes and compliments at hoome, and work harder than we ever have before. If we can do those two things, we will play the Colts tight, and I will feel MUCH better about this team overall.

joethefan · #10 10-11-2006, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Skins57

I also think the team not talking after a loss is a reflection of Joe himself. Joe will not tolerate someone bad mouthing anyone on this team. It will be kept in house.

badd mouthing is not saying hey we all need to step our game up.....It seems like no one says that. And if they do, is anyone listening?

Charlz · #11 10-10-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Axegrinder

I would say that they only perform when they have their backs up against the wall.This team continuously does things the hard way.We don't have the killer instinct.

The ONLY beef that I have w/the Redskins is that they do not bring their A-game to the Meadowlands or Texas Stadium. This was alluded to on another thread. I am not so much dissapointed in the loss as I am in the pitiful performance they put on.

LATrueRedskin · #12 10-10-2006, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Axegrinder

I would say that they only perform when they have their backs up against the wall.This team continuously does things the hard way.We don't have the killer instinct.

That's what really irritates me. It happens every game, and it happened all last season. We don't put teams away, and we don't show up until we're mathmatically up for elimination. It's time to win when winning doesn't really matter much. Let's make it easier on ourselves so everybody, the team and fans included, isn't sweating until the very last second of each game and each season.

Skinz4lyfe · #13 10-10-2006, 06:54 PM

Hhmmm. I'm gonna have to agree that it seems like we don't really like to play until our backs are against the wall. I was screaming at the TV watching the offense nonchalantly walk up to the line on a 3rd down. The desire doesn't seem like its there. Also, the Springs injury excuse is getting tired IMO. The Eagles were missing their 2nd and 3rd CBs last week and they didn't get gashed for big plays like we did. We need to find a way to stop the bleeding, get out there and make some plays. I have no doubt we'll turn it around but winning the division just got a whole lot tougher now.

FunBunch5 · #14 10-10-2006, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Axegrinder

I would say that they only perform when they have their backs up against the wall.This team continuously does things the hard way.We don't have the killer instinct.

That is the difference between mediocrity and contender. Contenders bring it every week whether their suppose to win or not (See Wilbon's column, where he says we were suppose to lose).

shally · #15 10-10-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Axegrinder

I would say that they only perform when they have their backs up against the wall.This team continuously does things the hard way.We don't have the killer instinct.

that is perilous... if one bad break goes against a team in that kind of run, it is all over... no reason to let it get to that..